Current Events > Guys, I'm just gonna say it. I think the protests caused a spike in rona cases

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CyricZ 07/03/20 9:42:01 AM #51:	Patty_Fleur posted... I think they are straight up wrong and have an agenda. Well I guess you can deny any science if you just assume everyone is lying. Xenozoa425 posted... And a lot of those spikes are states where there were protests. To speak to this specifically, there were protests in every single state. Thus making "this state had a spike and had protests" meaningless as a comparison. You have to look at it from a matter of proportion. Examine the states with the largest protests and compare from there to states that had spikes. --- CyricZ <cite>CyricZ posted [p:941613261] in Guys, I'm ... [t:78821366]...</cite> <quote>Patty_Fleur posted... </cite> <quote>I think they are straight up wrong and have an agenda.</quote>Well I guess you can deny any science if you just assume everyone is lying. Xenozoa425 posted... </cite> <quote>And a lot of those spikes are states where there were protests.</quote>To speak to this specifically, there were protests in every single state. Thus making "this state had a spike and had protests" meaningless as a comparison. You have to look at it from a matter of proportion. Examine the states with the largest protests and compare from there to states that had spikes. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JBaLLEN66 07/03/20 9:42:07 AM #52:	Xenozoa425 posted... https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/coronavirus-us-cases.html The data that the New York Times constantly updates does support the notion that the number of cases peaked on April 9th, and began a gradual decline until the end of May, when the mass gatherings began to start. People standing close to each other, yelling and breathing in each other's air. Then you can see that from about 1-2 weeks after the end of May into the middle of June (the time the virus needs to incubate) you start seeing cases amplify all over the country, not just in the current hot spots like Texas or Florida. And a lot of those spikes are states where there were protests. They have charts and maps for the individual states as well. Meanwhile, the number of deaths is rapidly decreasing from our peak of ~2700 in mid-April to current around ~700 per day. You also have to take into consideration that if more people get tested, more cases will show up. Which is common sense. so places like Minneapolis and DC dont have bars? Even what bull ** you pull out of your ass, this still negates everything!! Plus, scientists and medical experts have already explained to us that the protests didnt contribute to the spread of the disease. Wait, you get your science from Joe Rogan so screw the experts right? --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdR2Iktffaw The day Capitalism was humiliated :) <cite>JBaLLEN66 posted [p:941613262] in Guys, I'm ... [t:78821366]...</cite> <quote>Xenozoa425 posted... </cite> <quote>https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/coronavirus-us-cases.html The data that the New York Times constantly updates does support the notion that the number of cases peaked on April 9th, and began a gradual decline until the end of May, when the mass gatherings began to start. People standing close to each other, yelling and breathing in each other's air. Then you can see that from about 1-2 weeks after the end of May into the middle of June (the time the virus needs to incubate) you start seeing cases amplify all over the country, not just in the current hot spots like Texas or Florida. And a lot of those spikes are states where there were protests. They have charts and maps for the individual states as well. Meanwhile, the number of deaths is rapidly decreasing from our peak of ~2700 in mid-April to current around ~700 per day. You also have to take into consideration that if more people get tested, more cases will show up. Which is common sense.</quote> so places like Minneapolis and DC dont have bars? Even what bull ** you pull out of your ass, this still negates everything!! Plus, scientists and medical experts have already explained to us that the protests didnt contribute to the spread of the disease. Wait, you get your science from Joe Rogan so screw the experts right? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 07/03/20 9:43:11 AM #53:	Patty_Fleur posted... Large gatherings of people help spread the virus. The protest was a large gathering. That's not my fucking feelings thats facts. Data trumps your "logic". --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:941613296] in Guys, I'm ... [t:78821366]...</cite> <quote>Patty_Fleur posted... </cite> <quote>Large gatherings of people help spread the virus. The protest was a large gathering. That's not my fucking feelings thats facts.</quote> Data trumps your "logic". </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JBaLLEN66 07/03/20 9:43:52 AM #54:	COVxy posted... Data trumps your "logic". Joe Rogan trumps everything --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdR2Iktffaw The day Capitalism was humiliated :) <cite>JBaLLEN66 posted [p:941613319] in Guys, I'm ... [t:78821366]...</cite> <quote>COVxy posted... </cite> <quote>Data trumps your "logic".</quote> Joe Rogan trumps everything </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Patty_Fleur 07/03/20 9:44:16 AM #55:	COVxy posted... Data trumps your "logic". No it doesn't. They don't even have accurate data. I bet. --- Three can keep a secret, if two of them are dead. <cite>Patty_Fleur posted [p:941613331] in Guys, I'm ... [t:78821366]...</cite> <quote>COVxy posted... </cite> <quote>Data trumps your "logic".</quote> No it doesn't. They don't even have accurate data. I bet. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkRoast 07/03/20 9:44:26 AM #56:	Xenozoa425 posted... https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/coronavirus-us-cases.html The data that the New York Times constantly updates does support the notion that the number of cases peaked on April 9th, and began a gradual decline until the end of May, when the mass gatherings began to start. People standing close to each other, yelling and breathing in each other's air. Then you can see that from about 1-2 weeks after the end of May into the middle of June (the time the virus needs to incubate) you start seeing cases amplify all over the country, not just in the current hot spots like Texas or Florida. And a lot of those spikes are states where there were protests. They have charts and maps for the individual states as well. Meanwhile, the number of deaths is rapidly decreasing from our peak of ~2700 in mid-April to current around ~700 per day. You also have to take into consideration that if more people get tested, more cases will show up. Which is common sense. As a doctor, after dealing with this kind of "logic" from right-wingers since early March, I have only one thing to ask: Why are you guys still sharting out this BS? The rest of the world is back to normal and the US is completely fucked because people say shit like this, downplaying things to the point where the general public thinks its an overblown hoax. --- Well allons-y, Alonso! <cite>DarkRoast posted [p:941613337] in Guys, I'm ... [t:78821366]...</cite> <quote>Xenozoa425 posted... </cite> <quote>https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/coronavirus-us-cases.html The data that the New York Times constantly updates does support the notion that the number of cases peaked on April 9th, and began a gradual decline until the end of May, when the mass gatherings began to start. People standing close to each other, yelling and breathing in each other's air. Then you can see that from about 1-2 weeks after the end of May into the middle of June (the time the virus needs to incubate) you start seeing cases amplify all over the country, not just in the current hot spots like Texas or Florida. And a lot of those spikes are states where there were protests. They have charts and maps for the individual states as well. Meanwhile, the number of deaths is rapidly decreasing from our peak of ~2700 in mid-April to current around ~700 per day. You also have to take into consideration that if more people get tested, more cases will show up. Which is common sense.</quote> As a doctor, after dealing with this kind of "logic" from right-wingers since early March, I have only one thing to ask: Why are you guys still sharting out this BS? The rest of the world is back to normal and the US is completely fucked because people say shit like this, downplaying things to the point where the general public thinks its an overblown hoax. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Trent 07/03/20 9:45:17 AM #58:	DarkRoast posted... the US is completely fucked lol --- i swear to God most of y'all cats just don't know The Trent you barely know yourself so i guess most of y'all should be offended <cite>The Trent posted [p:941613364] in Guys, I'm ... [t:78821366]...</cite> <quote>DarkRoast posted... </cite> <quote>the US is completely fucked</quote> lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkRoast 07/03/20 9:45:41 AM #59:	Patty_Fleur posted... No it doesn't. They don't even have accurate data. I bet. The data clearly shows that covid-19 spreads particularly in closely-packed indoor settings. Specifically, in settings where people are highly vocal. And not wearing masks. You know, like political rallies and such. --- Well allons-y, Alonso! <cite>DarkRoast posted [p:941613375] in Guys, I'm ... [t:78821366]...</cite> <quote>Patty_Fleur posted... </cite> <quote>No it doesn't. They don't even have accurate data. I bet.</quote> The data clearly shows that covid-19 spreads particularly in closely-packed indoor settings. Specifically, in settings where people are highly vocal. And not wearing masks. You know, like political rallies and such. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JBaLLEN66 07/03/20 9:46:04 AM #60:	DarkRoast posted... As a doctor, after dealing with this kind of "logic" from right-wingers since early March, I have only one thing to ask: Why are you guys still sharting out this BS? The rest of the world is back to normal and the US is completely fucked because people say shit like this, downplaying things to the point where the general public thinks its an overblown hoax. Because Joe Rogan said you are lying to make me a Marxist sheep --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdR2Iktffaw The day Capitalism was humiliated :) <cite>JBaLLEN66 posted [p:941613389] in Guys, I'm ... [t:78821366]...</cite> <quote>DarkRoast posted... </cite> <quote>As a doctor, after dealing with this kind of "logic" from right-wingers since early March, I have only one thing to ask: Why are you guys still sharting out this BS? The rest of the world is back to normal and the US is completely fucked because people say shit like this, downplaying things to the point where the general public thinks its an overblown hoax.</quote> Because Joe Rogan said you are lying to make me a Marxist sheep </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 07/03/20 9:46:17 AM #61:	Patty_Fleur posted... No it doesn't. Yes it does. You can have the most beautiful, parsimonious, well reasoned theory, but if the data doesn't support it, it's not reality. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:941613398] in Guys, I'm ... [t:78821366]...</cite> <quote>Patty_Fleur posted... </cite> <quote>No it doesn't.</quote> Yes it does. You can have the most beautiful, parsimonious, well reasoned theory, but if the data doesn't support it, it's not reality. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Patty_Fleur 07/03/20 9:48:02 AM #62:	DarkRoast posted... The data clearly shows that covid-19 spreads particularly in closely-packed indoor settings. Specifically, in settings where people are highly vocal. You know, like political rallies and such. You're acting likes its impossible for people to get infected at protest. It isn't, so therefore the protests helped lead to an increase in cases. You can argue how much or how significant, but you can't argue against the fact people got infected. --- Three can keep a secret, if two of them are dead. <cite>Patty_Fleur posted [p:941613455] in Guys, I'm ... [t:78821366]...</cite> <quote>DarkRoast posted... </cite> <quote>The data clearly shows that covid-19 spreads particularly in closely-packed indoor settings. Specifically, in settings where people are highly vocal. You know, like political rallies and such.</quote> You're acting likes its impossible for people to get infected at protest. It isn't, so therefore the protests helped lead to an increase in cases. You can argue how much or how significant, but you can't argue against the fact people got infected. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkRoast 07/03/20 9:48:04 AM #63:	Bullet_Wing posted... It's not just the raw amount going up. The positive test rate is increasing. No amount of additional testing would account for that. The only case in which it could would be if a test has a very high false-positive rate. And there's no indication that this test does. --- Well allons-y, Alonso! <cite>DarkRoast posted [p:941613456] in Guys, I'm ... [t:78821366]...</cite> <quote>Bullet_Wing posted... </cite> <quote>It's not just the raw amount going up. The positive test rate is increasing. No amount of additional testing would account for that.</quote> The only case in which it could would be if a test has a very high false-positive rate. And there's no indication that this test does. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 07/03/20 9:48:44 AM #64:	Patty_Fleur posted... You're acting likes its impossible for people to get infected at protest. It isn't, so therefore the protests helped lead to an increase in cases. You can argue how much or how significant, but you can't argue against the fact people got infected. Did anyone see where the goalposts went? They were just here a second ago. --- CyricZ <cite>CyricZ posted [p:941613482] in Guys, I'm ... [t:78821366]...</cite> <quote>Patty_Fleur posted... </cite> <quote>You're acting likes its impossible for people to get infected at protest. It isn't, so therefore the protests helped lead to an increase in cases. You can argue how much or how significant, but you can't argue against the fact people got infected.</quote>Did anyone see where the goalposts went? They were just here a second ago. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkRoast 07/03/20 9:50:17 AM #65:	Patty_Fleur posted... You're acting likes its impossible for people to get infected at protest. It isn't, so therefore the protests helped lead to an increase in cases. You can argue how much or how significant, but you can't argue against the fact people got infected. You're acting like these two crowds are similar BLM: Trump Rally: Stop with the bullshit false equivalency. --- Well allons-y, Alonso! <cite>DarkRoast posted [p:941613536] in Guys, I'm ... [t:78821366]...</cite> <quote>Patty_Fleur posted... </cite> <quote>You're acting likes its impossible for people to get infected at protest. It isn't, so therefore the protests helped lead to an increase in cases. You can argue how much or how significant, but you can't argue against the fact people got infected.</quote> You're acting like these two crowds are similar BLM: Trump Rally: Stop with the bullshit false equivalency. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 07/03/20 9:51:29 AM #66:	DarkRoast posted... The only case in which it could would be if a test has a very high false-positive rate. Eh, false positive rate should be constant, no? Positivity can go up falsely if you are more selective with your testing, such that you are selecting cases that are more likelt to be positive. But it's the opposite happening here, more tests, less selectivity. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:941613567] in Guys, I'm ... [t:78821366]...</cite> <quote>DarkRoast posted... </cite> <quote>The only case in which it could would be if a test has a very high false-positive rate.</quote> Eh, false positive rate should be constant, no? Positivity can go up falsely if you are more selective with your testing, such that you are selecting cases that are more likelt to be positive. But it's the opposite happening here, more tests, less selectivity. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Trent 07/03/20 9:51:59 AM #67:	magic masks make protest groups unimpeachable on this topic those people couldn't have been spreading or contacting obviously --- i swear to God most of y'all cats just don't know The Trent you barely know yourself so i guess most of y'all should be offended <cite>The Trent posted [p:941613583] in Guys, I'm ... [t:78821366]...</cite> <quote>magic masks make protest groups unimpeachable on this topic those people couldn't have been spreading or contacting obviously </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Patty_Fleur 07/03/20 9:52:06 AM #68:	Where have said Trump's rallies are okay? Tell me.All I've been saying is people got infected during the protest and spread it to other people. Anyone who says otherwise is wrong --- Three can keep a secret, if two of them are dead. <cite>Patty_Fleur posted [p:941613587] in Guys, I'm ... [t:78821366]...</cite> <quote>Where have said Trump's rallies are okay? Tell me.All I've been saying is people got infected during the protest and spread it to other people. Anyone who says otherwise is wrong </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
badwinkles 07/03/20 9:52:47 AM #69:	Silence is violence lmao --- y/n <cite>badwinkles posted [p:941613609] in Guys, I'm ... [t:78821366]...</cite> <quote>Silence is violence lmao </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 07/03/20 9:53:03 AM #70:	The Trent posted... magic masks make protest groups unimpeachable on this topic those people couldn't have been spreading or contacting obviously Sorry you might be in the wrong topic. This topic is addressing "protests causing a spike in coronavirus cases", not "protests causing any coronavirus cases at all". --- CyricZ <cite>CyricZ posted [p:941613616] in Guys, I'm ... [t:78821366]...</cite> <quote>The Trent posted... </cite> <quote>magic masks make protest groups unimpeachable on this topic those people couldn't have been spreading or contacting obviously</quote>Sorry you might be in the wrong topic. This topic is addressing "protests causing a spike in coronavirus cases", not "protests causing any coronavirus cases at all". </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheGoldenEel 07/03/20 9:54:17 AM #71:	Patty_Fleur posted... Then the protest helped contribute to the spike. How much doesn't really matter when the virus spreads exponentially. Note that a spike is not simply the natural progression of the virus which would include a small amount of transfer between people at a protest a spike is a large amount of increase higher than the trends would expect --- The words of The Golden Eel have been revealed... Games: http://backloggery.com/wrldindstries302 \\ Music: http://www.last.fm/user/DrMorberg/ <cite>TheGoldenEel posted [p:941613654] in Guys, I'm ... [t:78821366]...</cite> <quote>Patty_Fleur posted... </cite> <quote>Then the protest helped contribute to the spike. How much doesn't really matter when the virus spreads exponentially.</quote>Note that a spike is not simply the natural progression of the virus which would include a small amount of transfer between people at a protest a spike is a large amount of increase higher than the trends would expect </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hornezz 07/03/20 9:54:40 AM #72:	SpaceBear_ posted... You got a tl;dr on that, chief? The abstract is right there on page 2. --- In dentibus anticis frustum magnum spinaciae habes. <cite>Hornezz posted [p:941613668] in Guys, I'm ... [t:78821366]...</cite> <quote>SpaceBear_ posted... </cite> <quote>You got a tl;dr on that, chief?</quote>The abstract is right there on page 2. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JBaLLEN66 07/03/20 9:54:55 AM #74:	Patty_Fleur posted... You're acting likes its impossible for people to get infected at protest. It isn't, so therefore the protests helped lead to an increase in cases. You can argue how much or how significant, but you can't argue against the fact people got infected. And its hard to argue with an idiot that takes medical advice from Joe Rogan rather than actual scientists --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdR2Iktffaw The day Capitalism was humiliated :) <cite>JBaLLEN66 posted [p:941613679] in Guys, I'm ... [t:78821366]...</cite> <quote>Patty_Fleur posted... </cite> <quote>You're acting likes its impossible for people to get infected at protest. It isn't, so therefore the protests helped lead to an increase in cases. You can argue how much or how significant, but you can't argue against the fact people got infected.</quote> And its hard to argue with an idiot that takes medical advice from Joe Rogan rather than actual scientists </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Trent 07/03/20 9:55:07 AM #75:	CyricZ posted... Sorry you might be in the wrong topic. This topic is addressing "protests causing a spike in coronavirus cases", not "protests causing any coronavirus cases at all". So it helped spread for sure but didn't spike things --- i swear to God most of y'all cats just don't know The Trent you barely know yourself so i guess most of y'all should be offended <cite>The Trent posted [p:941613688] in Guys, I'm ... [t:78821366]...</cite> <quote>CyricZ posted... </cite> <quote>Sorry you might be in the wrong topic. This topic is addressing "protests causing a spike in coronavirus cases", not "protests causing any coronavirus cases at all".</quote> So it helped spread for sure but didn't spike things </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CyricZ 07/03/20 9:55:20 AM #77:	There's a penis joke somewhere for people who consider a proportionally small increase "a spike". --- CyricZ <cite>CyricZ posted [p:941613699] in Guys, I'm ... [t:78821366]...</cite> <quote>There's a penis joke somewhere for people who consider a proportionally small increase "a spike". </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Patty_Fleur 07/03/20 9:55:43 AM #78:	CyricZ posted... Sorry you might be in the wrong topic. This topic is addressing "protests causing a spike in coronavirus cases", not "protests causing any coronavirus cases at all". Because one person can lead to many infected, any situation before the spikes helped cause the current spikes. Maye you're right and a few people got infected at the protest. That doesn't mean the virus just stopped with them. --- Three can keep a secret, if two of them are dead. <cite>Patty_Fleur posted [p:941613705] in Guys, I'm ... [t:78821366]...</cite> <quote>CyricZ posted... </cite> <quote>Sorry you might be in the wrong topic. This topic is addressing "protests causing a spike in coronavirus cases", not "protests causing any coronavirus cases at all".</quote> Because one person can lead to many infected, any situation before the spikes helped cause the current spikes. Maye you're right and a few people got infected at the protest. That doesn't mean the virus just stopped with them. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkRoast 07/03/20 9:55:54 AM #79:	Patty_Fleur posted... Where have said Trump's rallies are okay? Tell me.All I've been saying is people got infected during the protest and spread it to other people. Anyone who says otherwise is wrong Cut the crap. The GOP holds fucking indoor rallies where candidates actually make a point of not wearing masks, staff actually removes social distancing signs and people on Twitter actually boast about not masking, and you're comparing it to outdoors protests where nearly everyone is masked. Republicans have been grotesquely irresponsible to the point of absurdity, and this is a distraction from it. --- Well allons-y, Alonso! <cite>DarkRoast posted [p:941613710] in Guys, I'm ... [t:78821366]...</cite> <quote>Patty_Fleur posted... </cite> <quote>Where have said Trump's rallies are okay? Tell me.All I've been saying is people got infected during the protest and spread it to other people. Anyone who says otherwise is wrong</quote> Cut the crap. The GOP holds fucking indoor rallies where candidates actually make a point of not wearing masks, staff actually removes social distancing signs and people on Twitter actually boast about not masking, and you're comparing it to outdoors protests where nearly everyone is masked. Republicans have been grotesquely irresponsible to the point of absurdity, and this is a distraction from it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Trent 07/03/20 9:57:42 AM #81:	Bullet_Wing posted... Not in any significant capacity. Reopening too early did though. How long should we have stayed closed? 3 months? 4? 6? What was to prevent the curve from unflattening upon reopen when 1 person can infect dozens at the drop of a hat? --- i swear to God most of y'all cats just don't know The Trent you barely know yourself so i guess most of y'all should be offended <cite>The Trent posted [p:941613755] in Guys, I'm ... [t:78821366]...</cite> <quote>Bullet_Wing posted... </cite> <quote>Not in any significant capacity. Reopening too early did though.</quote> How long should we have stayed closed? 3 months? 4? 6? What was to prevent the curve from unflattening upon reopen when 1 person can infect dozens at the drop of a hat? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheGoldenEel 07/03/20 9:58:20 AM #82:	Btw TheGoldenEel posted... Health officials link surge in coronavirus cases in Pittsburgh area to bars, not protests https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/505142-health-officials-link-surge-in-coronavirus-cases-in-pittsburgh-area-to?amp Protests in Seattle and elsewhere dont appear to be driving coronavirus surge, researchers say https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/health/protests-in-seattle-and-elsewhere-dont-appear-to-be-driving-virus-surge-researchers-say/?amp=1 Parties Not Protests Are Causing Spikes In Coronavirus https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/06/24/883017035/what-contact-tracing-may-tell-about-cluster-spread-of-the-coronavirus Black Lives Matter protests may have slowed overall spread of coronavirus in Denver and other cities, new study finds https://coloradosun.com/2020/06/30/police-protests-coronavirus-spread/ COVID-19 has not surged in cities with big protests, but it has in states that reopened early. Here are some possible reasons. https://www.inquirer.com/health/coronavirus/coronavirus-no-spike-cities-despite-protests-big-surge-in-states-that-reopened-20200627.html?outputType=amp More reported COVID-19 cases linked to bars than protests, officials say https://www.klkntv.com/more-reported-covid-19-cases-coming-from-bars-than-protests-officials-say/ Did protests spread the coronavirus? Here are the Utah numbers and the national research. https://www.sltrib.com/news/2020/06/27/how-much-did-protests/ --- The words of The Golden Eel have been revealed... Games: http://backloggery.com/wrldindstries302 \\ Music: http://www.last.fm/user/DrMorberg/ <cite>TheGoldenEel posted [p:941613774] in Guys, I'm ... [t:78821366]...</cite> <quote>Btw <cite>TheGoldenEel posted... </cite> <quote>Health officials link surge in coronavirus cases in Pittsburgh area to bars, not protests https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/505142-health-officials-link-surge-in-coronavirus-cases-in-pittsburgh-area-to?amp Protests in Seattle and elsewhere dont appear to be driving coronavirus surge, researchers say https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/health/protests-in-seattle-and-elsewhere-dont-appear-to-be-driving-virus-surge-researchers-say/?amp=1 Parties Not Protests Are Causing Spikes In Coronavirus https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/06/24/883017035/what-contact-tracing-may-tell-about-cluster-spread-of-the-coronavirus Black Lives Matter protests may have slowed overall spread of coronavirus in Denver and other cities, new study finds https://coloradosun.com/2020/06/30/police-protests-coronavirus-spread/ COVID-19 has not surged in cities with big protests, but it has in states that reopened early. Here are some possible reasons. https://www.inquirer.com/health/coronavirus/coronavirus-no-spike-cities-despite-protests-big-surge-in-states-that-reopened-20200627.html?outputType=amp More reported COVID-19 cases linked to bars than protests, officials say https://www.klkntv.com/more-reported-covid-19-cases-coming-from-bars-than-protests-officials-say/ Did protests spread the coronavirus? Here are the Utah numbers and the national research. https://www.sltrib.com/news/2020/06/27/how-much-did-protests/</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 07/03/20 9:59:18 AM #83:	Patty_Fleur posted... Because one person can lead to many infected True. any situation before the spikes helped cause the current spikes. False. You have to perform tracking and contact tracing to determine the spread. From there you can draw conclusions about what specifically caused the spread. By your logic I could claim that you going out to get groceries last week helped spike the cases. --- CyricZ <cite>CyricZ posted [p:941613807] in Guys, I'm ... [t:78821366]...</cite> <quote>Patty_Fleur posted... </cite> <quote>Because one person can lead to many infected</quote>True. <quote>any situation before the spikes helped cause the current spikes.</quote>False. You have to perform tracking and contact tracing to determine the spread. From there you can draw conclusions about what specifically caused the spread. By your logic I could claim that you going out to get groceries last week helped spike the cases. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Patty_Fleur 07/03/20 10:00:14 AM #85:	DarkRoast posted... Cut the crap. The GOP holds fucking indoor rallies where candidates actually make a point of not wearing masks, staff actually removes social distancing signs and people on Twitter actually boast about not masking, and you're comparing it to outdoors protests where nearly everyone is masked. Republicans have been grotesquely irresponsible to the point of absurdity, and this is a distraction from it. This isn't about fucking Republicans. I bet since you're doctor you wouldn't give someone the ok to go to protest if they ask for your opinion on it, right? Especially if they have underlying issues. You know they could get infected. Am I right? --- Three can keep a secret, if two of them are dead. <cite>Patty_Fleur posted [p:941613842] in Guys, I'm ... [t:78821366]...</cite> <quote>DarkRoast posted... </cite> <quote>Cut the crap. The GOP holds fucking indoor rallies where candidates actually make a point of not wearing masks, staff actually removes social distancing signs and people on Twitter actually boast about not masking, and you're comparing it to outdoors protests where nearly everyone is masked. Republicans have been grotesquely irresponsible to the point of absurdity, and this is a distraction from it.</quote> This isn't about fucking Republicans. I bet since you're doctor you wouldn't give someone the ok to go to protest if they ask for your opinion on it, right? Especially if they have underlying issues. You know they could get infected. Am I right? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 07/03/20 10:01:28 AM #86:	Well I know one thing. I'm not brave enough to call out DarkRoast with regards to her profession. --- CyricZ <cite>CyricZ posted [p:941613877] in Guys, I'm ... [t:78821366]...</cite> <quote>Well I know one thing. I'm not brave enough to call out DarkRoast with regards to her profession. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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scorpion41 07/03/20 10:02:20 AM #88:	Contact Tracer: Have you attended any mass gatherings in your area, including protests? Person lying: No I have not...I think I got it from the gym/store/other business. Study results: Protests arent causing any of the Covid spikes... --- PSN: scorpion_4160 Currently Playing: NCAA 14(PS3) <cite>scorpion41 posted [p:941613904] in Guys, I'm ... [t:78821366]...</cite> <quote>Contact Tracer: Have you attended any mass gatherings in your area, including protests? Person lying: No I have not...I think I got it from the gym/store/other business. Study results: Protests arent causing any of the Covid spikes... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 07/03/20 10:03:56 AM #89:	scorpion41 posted... Contact Tracer: Have you attended any mass gatherings in your area, including protests? Person lying: No I have not...I think I got it from the gym/store/other business. Study results: Protests arent causing any of the Covid spikes... CyricZ posted... Well I guess you can deny any science if you just assume everyone is lying. --- CyricZ <cite>CyricZ posted [p:941613952] in Guys, I'm ... [t:78821366]...</cite> <quote>scorpion41 posted... </cite> <quote>Contact Tracer: Have you attended any mass gatherings in your area, including protests? Person lying: No I have not...I think I got it from the gym/store/other business. Study results: Protests arent causing any of the Covid spikes...</quote> CyricZ posted... </cite> <quote>Well I guess you can deny any science if you just assume everyone is lying.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Trent 07/03/20 10:03:58 AM #90:	Bullet_Wing posted... Some places never fully closed and/or closed out of sync with each other. We needed a country wide lockdown like other countries did. Had we taken steps to address it earlier, rather than our leader pretending it was a political ploy, things would have been a lot different. You can clearly see that in other countries. The leadership is one thing but the American people are clearly to blame more than any one political figure (read: republican) --- i swear to God most of y'all cats just don't know The Trent you barely know yourself so i guess most of y'all should be offended <cite>The Trent posted [p:941613953] in Guys, I'm ... [t:78821366]...</cite> <quote>Bullet_Wing posted... </cite> <quote>Some places never fully closed and/or closed out of sync with each other. We needed a country wide lockdown like other countries did. Had we taken steps to address it earlier, rather than our leader pretending it was a political ploy, things would have been a lot different. You can clearly see that in other countries.</quote> The leadership is one thing but the American people are clearly to blame more than any one political figure (read: republican) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheGoldenEel 07/03/20 10:04:51 AM #92:	scorpion41 posted... Contact Tracer: Have you attended any mass gatherings in your area, including protests? Person lying: No I have not...I think I got it from the gym/store/other business. Study results: Protests arent causing any of the Covid spikes... good thing that contact tracing is aggregate data collection so individual responses dont affect the overall results to a large enough degree to make the conclusions invalid --- The words of The Golden Eel have been revealed... Games: http://backloggery.com/wrldindstries302 \\ Music: http://www.last.fm/user/DrMorberg/ <cite>TheGoldenEel posted [p:941613981] in Guys, I'm ... [t:78821366]...</cite> <quote>scorpion41 posted... </cite> <quote>Contact Tracer: Have you attended any mass gatherings in your area, including protests? Person lying: No I have not...I think I got it from the gym/store/other business. Study results: Protests arent causing any of the Covid spikes...</quote>good thing that contact tracing is aggregate data collection so individual responses dont affect the overall results to a large enough degree to make the conclusions invalid </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Trent 07/03/20 10:06:49 AM #94:	if you say so --- i swear to God most of y'all cats just don't know The Trent you barely know yourself so i guess most of y'all should be offended <cite>The Trent posted [p:941614052] in Guys, I'm ... [t:78821366]...</cite> <quote>if you say so </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThisGuyAreSick 07/03/20 10:07:06 AM #95:	TheGoldenEel posted... good thing that contact tracing is aggregate data collection so individual responses dont affect the overall results to a large enough degree to make the conclusions invalid youre quoting a guy who defended rayshard brook's killer --- sigless <cite>ThisGuyAreSick posted [p:941614061] in Guys, I'm ... [t:78821366]...</cite> <quote>TheGoldenEel posted...</cite> <quote> good thing that contact tracing is aggregate data collection so individual responses dont affect the overall results to a large enough degree to make the conclusions invalid </quote> youre quoting a guy who defended rayshard brook's killer</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Patty_Fleur 07/03/20 10:07:29 AM #96:	-BLM is a good cause -some people got infected attended protest. They can both be true. Is that so hard for yall to fucking accept? Or yall want live in some fantasy land? --- Three can keep a secret, if two of them are dead. <cite>Patty_Fleur posted [p:941614068] in Guys, I'm ... [t:78821366]...</cite> <quote>-BLM is a good cause -some people got infected attended protest. They can both be true. Is that so hard for yall to fucking accept? Or yall want live in some fantasy land? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheGoldenEel 07/03/20 10:08:59 AM #98:	Patty_Fleur posted... -BLM is a good cause -some people got infected attended protest. They can both be true. Is that so hard for yall to fucking accept? Or yall want live in some fantasy land? Refer to post #71 --- The words of The Golden Eel have been revealed... Games: http://backloggery.com/wrldindstries302 \\ Music: http://www.last.fm/user/DrMorberg/ <cite>TheGoldenEel posted [p:941614108] in Guys, I'm ... [t:78821366]...</cite> <quote>Patty_Fleur posted... </cite> <quote>-BLM is a good cause -some people got infected attended protest. They can both be true. Is that so hard for yall to fucking accept? Or yall want live in some fantasy land?</quote>Refer to post #71 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 07/03/20 10:09:56 AM #99:	Patty_Fleur posted... -BLM is a good cause -some people got infected attended protest. They can both be true. Is that so hard for yall to fucking accept? Or yall want live in some fantasy land? No one is claiming that there wasn't any spread due to the protests. Only that the aggregate sum of all other daily events had a much larger and observable impact on the subsequent spiking seen today. Presumably there was some spread, but the effect was so small and perhaps counterbalanced that it isn't observable. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:941614132] in Guys, I'm ... [t:78821366]...</cite> <quote>Patty_Fleur posted... </cite> <quote>-BLM is a good cause -some people got infected attended protest. They can both be true. Is that so hard for yall to fucking accept? Or yall want live in some fantasy land?</quote> No one is claiming that there wasn't any spread due to the protests. Only that the aggregate sum of all other daily events had a much larger and observable impact on the subsequent spiking seen today. Presumably there was some spread, but the effect was so small and perhaps counterbalanced that it isn't observable. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scorpion41 07/03/20 10:11:07 AM #100:	Im not saying the studies were reported wrong by officials, but its naive to think that people aren't lying about where theyve been to justify the protesting. No way you get that many people crammed together and nothing happens. --- PSN: scorpion_4160 Currently Playing: NCAA 14(PS3) <cite>scorpion41 posted [p:941614170] in Guys, I'm ... [t:78821366]...</cite> <quote>Im not saying the studies were reported wrong by officials, but its naive to think that people aren't lying about where theyve been to justify the protesting. No way you get that many people crammed together and nothing happens. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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