Current Events > Dylann Roof was a lethal threat who was promptly taken to Burger King

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DeadBankerDream posted...

Seems reasonable to me that you'd be more interested in getting a fruitful and good interrogation of a suspect the worse his crime is.

I'd say you get more mileage trying to figure out why an impoverished black man turned to a life of crime than trying to dig into the mind of a white supremacist who made his motives incredibly obvious.

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DeadBankerDream posted...

Well, to be fair, I'm struggling to consider you a serious poster. Are you a Frisbee alt or something?

Not everybody with conflicting opinions of yours is an alt.
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ThisGuyAreSick posted...

I'm struggling to see as to why that motivation isn't toxic and completely beneficial to killers like Dylann Roof.

Because you only view things in bizarro false dichotomies. The two are completely unrelated. Rayshard Brooks would have been taken to the station, given some water and a cot to sleep it off, and charged with a DUI in the morning if he peacefully surrendered too.

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ThisGuyAreSick posted...

Shut the fuck up.

Stop trying to act like a tough guy. You look fucking pathetic.

Show me a video of him kicking him. Why just release a still frame shot? In what world does that make sense?

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RchHomieQuanChi posted...

I'd say you get more mileage trying to figure out why an impoverished black man turned to a life of crime than trying to dig into the mind of a white supremacist who made his motives incredibly obvious.

Well, I wouldn't say that at all. And further I'd say that that seems like a judgement you can only make in hindsight.
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Pogo_Marimo posted...

Because you only view things in bizarro false dichotomies. The two are completely unrelated. Rayshard Brooks would have been taken to the station, given some water and a cot to sleep it off, and charged with a DUI in the morning if he peacefully surrendered too.

But you're missing the point that the cops assessed he was a danger to society but there's been a history of cops who do the exact opposite to whites who are ACTUALLY a danger to society.

Nothing Rayshard Brooks did was a capital offense. Nothing he did warranted being shot and killed. Nothing he did warranted being kicked while he clinged for life.
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ThisGuyAreSick posted...

40 minutes was all the cops needed with a drunk man to decide on killing him.

Damn man. If only they had more time maybe he wouldn't have committed the capital offense of sucker punching a cop!

It was the suspect who decided to steal the cops taser. The cops didn't escalate the violence. You can argue a taser isn't dangerous enough to warrant using lethal force, that's fine, but you're not making any actual arguments here. You're just... writing weird oppression fanfiction.

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Solid Snake07 posted...

Stop trying to act like a tough guy. You look fucking pathetic.

Show me a video of him kicking him. Why just release a still frame shot? In what world does that make sense?

Let's be absolutely real here. If I showed you video of it you'd be doing Zapruder film type mental gymnastics to justify what the cops did to Brooks.
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ThisGuyAreSick posted...

Not everybody with conflicting opinions of yours is an alt.

Well no, several people in this topic disagrees with me, and you're the only one I suspect of foul motives.
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Pogo_Marimo posted...

Because you only view things in bizarro false dichotomies. The two are completely unrelated. Rayshard Brooks would have been taken to the station, given some water and a cot to sleep it off, and charged with a DUI in the morning if he peacefully surrendered too.

Breonna Taylor didn't even get to wake up before getting shot at. Eric Garner got jumped by 5 police officers and at no point made himself a physical threat. Tamir Rice was fucking 12. George Floyd had a knee on his neck for 9 minutes. And out of all of these examples, the worst crime we have here is selling loose cigarettes.

What are you talking about?

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Pogo_Marimo posted...

It was the suspect who decided to steal the cops taser. The cops didn't escalate the violence. You can argue a taser isn't dangerous enough to warrant using lethal force, that's fine, but you're not making any actual arguments here. You're just... writing weird oppression fanfiction.

It isn't dangerous enough to warrant using lethal force. What is your point here?

DeadBankerDream posted...

Well no, several people in this topic disagrees with me, and you're the only one I suspect of foul motives.

And those "foul motives" are?
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ThisGuyAreSick posted...

But you're missing the point that the cops assessed he was a danger to society but there's been a history of cops who do the exact opposite to whites who are ACTUALLY a danger to society.

Nothing Rayshard Brooks did was a capital offense. Nothing he did warranted being shot and killed. Nothing he did warranted being kicked while he clinged for life.

Lethal force isn't used as a means of punishment you muppet, it's a means of self-defense or defense of others. If Roof walked out of that theater with his guns pointed at police they would have gunned him down in the street. When Rayshard Brooks pointed the taser at the pursuing officer, he was shot dead in the street.

They are not assessing their value to society. They are assessing if someone is about to be killed or seriously injured. This should be a pretty simple concept to understand. The issue is when police misinterpret what a threat is, and that's where the courts need to step in and define it for nuanced situations through indictments and charges if necessary.

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Shitposting about a controversial race issue for the funsies.

Aka, being a Frisbee alt.
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ThisGuyAreSick posted...

It isn't dangerous enough to warrant using lethal force. What is your point here?

You can argue a taser isn't dangerous enough to warrant using lethal force, that's fine, but you're not making any actual arguments here. You're just... writing weird oppression fanfiction.


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TC really blew past the post pointing out how this thread is based on a lie, didn't they? What a surprise.

When Rayshard Brooks pointed the discharged and nonlethal taser at the pursuing officer, he was shot dead in the street.

FTFY

DeadBankerDream posted...

Shitposting about a controversial race issue for the funsies.

Aka, being a Frisbee alt.

Nothing about this is fun. This is a serious topic that people like you need to get drilled into your skull so that the country gets less toxic. You call it shitposting, I call it putting a bootlicker in his place.
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Zikten posted...

Dylann Roof recognized the cops were on his side and surrendered

Rayshard Brooks understood that he was considered an enemy to the cops due to his skin and that's why he had to fight

Imagine unironically believing this, so by your brain dead logic every black person MUST resist arrest and fight officers that try to arrest them? lmfao what a clown

for those with brains, it's okay to BOTH believe he shouldn't have been shot AND that he shouldn't have resisted arrest and fought the cops like a raging moron

ThisGuyAreSick posted...

Let's be absolutely real here. If I showed you video of it you'd be doing Zapruder film type mental gymnastics to justify what the cops did to Brooks.

Nope, if he kicked him after shooting him that's definitely 100% wrong.

But i find it highly suspect that they're releasing a still frame that sort of looks like he might be kicking him. What in the fuck purpose does that serve? And considering the string on lies and contradictions that came out of that DA's mouth you'll have to excuse me for being skeptical

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Solid Snake07 posted...

Nope, if he kicked him after shooting him that's definitely 100% wrong.

But i find it highly suspect that they're releasing a still frame that sort of looks like he might be kicking him. What in the fuck purpose does that serve? And considering the string on lies and contradictions that came out of that DA's mouth you'll have to excuse me for being skeptical

Maybe because the picture leaked and the video is evidence in the upcoming trial? Which means it can't be released?

Why must the go to defense always be "NOPE FAKE I CAN TELL BY TEH PIXELS"
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RchHomieQuanChi posted...

Breonna Taylor didn't even get to wake up before getting shot at. Eric Garner got jumped by 5 police officers and at no point made himself a physical threat. Tamir Rice was fucking 12. George Floyd had a knee on his neck for 9 minutes. And out of all of these examples, the worst crime we have here is selling loose cigarettes.

What are you talking about?

I'm gonna need an answer for this. And I'd also like to add in John Craword III, who was gunned down before he could even comprehend the situation.

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I forgot the dude's name but also the guy with literally his pants down crawling on the floor of a hotel hallway as well. He wasn't black but the fact he was still shot dead despite not being a lethal threat goes to show how incompetent and deranged these psycho cops are.
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ThisGuyAreSick posted...

Maybe because the picture leaked and the video is evidence in the upcoming trial? Which means it can't be released?

Why must the go to defense always be "NOPE FAKE I CAN TELL BY TEH PIXELS"

Leaded?! My dude, that picture you posted was pulled straight from the DAs presentation of the charges being brought up

And I didn't say it's fake. I said it's a still frame. Still frames can be deceiving

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Solid Snake07 posted...

Leaded?! My dude, that picture you posted was pulled straight from the DAs presentation of the charges being brought up

So someone took a picture and uploaded it to the internet. They leaked it.

Jfc
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Well, lying is a form of shitposting, and claiming there is no difference in how the arrests of Roof and Holmes vs the one of Dorner other than their skin colour is a direct lie.
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@ThisGuyAreSick do you plan to acknowledge that your thread is based on something that isn't true?

ThisGuyAreSick posted...

So someone took a picture and uploaded it to the internet. They leaked it.

Jfc

Lol, bro it was televised

https://youtu.be/e-hNOkY9klY

You clearly arent informed about what's going on or what you're talking about

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DeadBankerDream posted...

Well, lying is a form of shitposting, and claiming there is no difference in how the arrests of Roof and Holmes vs the one of Dorner other than their skin colour is a direct lie.

Roof and Holmes had just committed murder and had the weapons they used on them when they were arrested.

Dorner did the same thing but was not given an opportunity to surrender.

Brooks didn't even have a weapon.
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Solid Snake07 posted...

Lol, bro it was televised

https://youtu.be/e-hNOkY9klY

You clearly arent informed about what's going on.or what you're talking about

"its fake i can tell by the pixels"

Can't wait for the defense attorney to use that defense at trial!
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Roof and Holmes didn't surrender as far as I can tell. Being caught without resisting is not the same as a stand off.

So you're still lying.
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Kind of a random comparison to make between two separate events.

If Dylann Roof had resisted arrest and not gotten shot this post would make more sense.

DeadBankerDream posted...

Roof and Holmes didn't surrender as far as I can tell. Being caught without resisting is not the same as a stand off.

So you're still lying.

So wait, you're making my point for me. They didn't even surrender? So why the FUCK weren't they handled the same way as Dorner and Brooks?

Also being wrong about something =\= lying. Stop being disingenuous.

gamer167 posted...

Kind of a random comparison to make between two separate events.

If Dylann Roof had resisted arrest and not gotten shot this post would make more sense.

According to people defending the handling of him he didn't even surrender apparently.

So uh, you're wrong.
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@Tenlaar

lol, TC probably thinks the cops took him to Burger King and got to hang out with everyone and even got a crown

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Everyone should be able to fight cops, steal their weapons, and run away with no consequences right TC? Can you even comprehend how fucking outrageous that is?

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ThisGuyAreSick posted...

Roof and Holmes had just committed murder and had the weapons they used on them when they were arrested.

Dorner did the same thing but was not given an opportunity to surrender.

Brooks didn't even have a weapon.

Dorner was given multiple opportunities during his last stand to surrender, after having just shot at and wounded two more deputies.

He was afforded every opportunity, and he rebuked those with further violence.


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You're lying because these things have already been pointed out to you in your own topic, and in addition you are intentionally avoiding to inform yourself on things you should know.
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Houston posted...

@Tenlaar

lol, TC probably thinks the cops took him to Burger King and got to hang out with everyone and even got a crown

Keep fixating on the Burger King and not the fact that the cops used the complete opposite measures for a white supremacist who just murdered a bunch of people and was an active threat than they did for a drunk black man who wasn't of any threat.
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DeadBankerDream posted...

You're lying because these things have already been pointed out to you in your own topic, and in addition you are intentionally avoiding to inform yourself on things you should know.

Again, being wrong about something =\= lying. Shut the fuck up.
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Okay, Frisbee.
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DeadBankerDream posted...

Okay, Frisbee.

Okay Admiral
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ThisGuyAreSick posted...

Keep fixating on the Burger King and not the fact that the cops used the complete opposite measures for a white supremacist who just murdered a bunch of people and was an active threat than they did for a drunk black man who wasn't of any threat.

How can any genuine discussion happen if you can't even acknowledge that you started from a place of hyperbole and false information?

Tenlaar posted...

How can any genuine discussion happen if you can't even acknowledge that you started from a place of hyperbole and false information?

How can any genuine discussion happen when you have people ignoring that the taser was shot twice and making "ITS FAKE" defenses against murderers who kick dying victims?
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Zikten posted...

Rayshard Brooks understood that he was considered an enemy to the cops due to his skin and that's why he had to fight

Bullshit. Everything was proceeding just fine and cordially until Rayshard was told he failed the field sobriety test and was being arrested, then he flipped his shit.

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Giant_Aspirin posted...

Bullshit. Everything was proceeding just fine and cordially until Rayshard was told he failed the field sobriety test and was being arrested, then he flipped his shit.

Still not justfiable to shoot him twice in the back.
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ThisGuyAreSick posted...

How can any genuine discussion happen when you have people ignoring that the taser was shot twice and making "ITS FAKE" defenses against murderers who kick dying victims?

Way to take responsibility for your own actions.

ThisGuyAreSick posted...

Keep fixating on the Burger King and not the fact that the cops used the complete opposite measures for a white supremacist who just murdered a bunch of people and was an active threat than they did for a drunk black man who wasn't of any threat.

Youre deliberately ignoring the bodys physiological response to life-or-death stress. You look at the Brooks shooting as if the officers were of clear, logical mind, despite having just been in a fight with a suspect who had effectively been able to disarm one of the officers.

Youre sitting here trying to make a case that Rolfe shouldve known the taser was empty, when there are multitudes of cases of officer involved shootings in which the officer cannot recall if he personally fired two shots or twelve, because your brain is suffering sensory overload.

There are studies that show you dont even recall all of the pertinent facts of a critical incident until days later, because of the human reaction to the possibility of death.

Brooks turned that taser on Rolfe, and Rolfe pulled the trigger because his mind, in that moment, told him he was in immediate danger.

Its convenient to armchair quarterback the incident in the cold sobriety of your own placid existence right now.


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Tenlaar posted...

Way to take responsibility for your own actions.

I already stated multiple times that being wrong about something =\= lying. I don't know what else you want me to say.

But yeah, keep fixating on the least important part of the story.
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ThisGuyAreSick posted...

Still not justfiable to shoot him twice in the back.

I never said it was or wasn't. I didn't pass any judgement on that point whatsoever. Don't put words in my mouth/posts.

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ThisGuyAreSick posted...

Keep fixating on the Burger King and not the fact that the cops used the complete opposite measures for a white supremacist who just murdered a bunch of people and was an active threat than they did for a drunk black man who wasn't of any threat.

That drunk man just got done wrestling with officers on the ground, punching one of them, stealing a taser and then firing it at an officer. But according to you, he wasn't of any threat. No. That man was a threat to the cops, himself and the public. It takes someone with a pretty bad mindset to do what he did. Dylan, though committing horrible acts of atrocities did not try to fight police. He was arrested without incident.


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Youre deliberately ignoring the bodys physiological response to life-or-death stress.

How did this get applied to Breanna Taylor?

I don't need to read anything more of what you have to say. Your a cop who will justify anything a cop will ever do. You'd quit and throw a tantrum if one of your own murdered somebody. No amount of wall of texts will convince me that you're not a disingenuous power tripping cop who shitposts on GameFAQs instead of helping his community or protecting it.
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Patchwork posted...

Youre deliberately ignoring the bodys physiological response to life-or-death stress. You look at the Brooks shooting as if the officers were of clear, logical mind, despite having just been in a fight with a suspect who had effectively been able to disarm one of the officers.

Youre sitting here trying to make a case that Rolfe shouldve known the taser was empty, when there are multitudes of cases of officer involved shootings in which the officer cannot recall if he personally fired two shots or twelve, because your brain is suffering sensory overload.

There are studies that show you dont even recall all of the pertinent facts of a critical incident until days later, because of the human reaction to the possibility of death.

Brooks turned that taser on Rolfe, and Rolfe pulled the trigger because his mind, in that moment, told him he was in immediate danger.

Its convenient to armchair quarterback the incident in the cold sobriety of your own placid existence right now.

Its literally your and every other fucking cops job to have better control over their emotions and reactions than a civilian. Youre public fucking servants, dont fucking whine when people hold you to a higher standard. Stop making excuses for roided up assholes on a power trip.

Its convenient to armchair quarterback the incident in the cold sobriety of your own placid existence right now.

God this is so fucking pathetic. You really do see yourselves as better than the people youve sworn to protect. What a fucking baby.

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