Current Events > cop abruptly stops walking in front of protester so the protestor walks into him

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I feel like you should give people a benefit of the doubt, and from there, you can see if they're arguing from bad faith or not

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Does it seem like the protester was trying to jostle the cop? Like at the beginning? It's kind of hard to tell.

What is not hard to tell is that the cop purposely stops and then his cop buddies jump in the guy. Was the protester charged? I'll be he was and I bet the charges were insane like assault on a peace officer.

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CrimsonRage posted...

you are too patient and mature for your own good boxington <3

lol, I don't know about that, but thanks

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CrimsonRage posted...

you are too patient and mature for your own good boxington <3

stop being thirsty

RadiantAdolin posted...

Not if it's an instinctual reaction. Hell, the Supreme Court has ruled thay people do have a situational right to resist arrest when a person has a reasonable fear for their life or safety. And in a case where you face a sudden, unreasonable use of excessive force, there is absolutely a reasonable fear in that immediate, instinctual response.

And even with careful rational thinking, being arrested runs the risk of the cops kneeling on his neck for 9 minutes until he dies. So there's always reasonable fear of death, so resisting arrest is always justifiable self-defense.

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ZeldaMutant posted...

resisting arrest is always justifiable self-defense

Shut the fuck up.

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If the protester was yelling in his ear and shit that's not cool

But what the cops did was way less cool

Don't be way less cool

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Why do dumbasses defend escalation? Is yelling in the cops ear annoying? Yes. Here is what an adult would do...

1. move away from that person
2. turn around and talk to them
3. just ignore it and grow the fuck up

here is what you dont do

1. force contact so you and a gang of your friends can jump on him.

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VipaGTS posted...

Why do dumbasses defend escalation? Is yelling in the cops ear annoying? Yes. Here is what an adult would do...

1. move away from that person
2. turn around and talk to them
3. just ignore it and grow the fuck up

here is what you dont do
1. force contact so you and a gang of your friends can jump on him.

But #bluelivesmatter

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ZeldaMutant posted...

And even with careful rational thinking, being arrested runs the risk of the cops kneeling on his neck for 9 minutes until he dies. So there's always reasonable fear of death, so resisting arrest is always justifiable self-defense.

No.

VipaGTS posted...

Why do dumbasses defend escalation? Is yelling in the cops ear annoying? Yes. Here is what an adult would do...

1. move away from that person
2. turn around and talk to them
3. just ignore it and grow the fuck up

here is what you dont do
1. force contact so you and a gang of your friends can jump on him.

I don't think these apply to normal people as much as cops. Normal people might just beat the shit out of them

Cops obviously shouldn't

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Gobstoppers12 posted...

Y'all are expressing an interesting interpretation of these events.

I mean...the dude in the crowd yelling "he's not resisting!" as the dude is literally trying to pull himself away and run? That's a pretty good example of having no earthly idea what you're talking about, but saying it loudly enough that it sounds true.

almost as interesting as freaking out and screaming dont touch him 20 times, by which point the dude was thrown to the ground by multiple officers.

was he telling the officers to not touch him?

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20 counts of brushing the leg of a POLICE OFFICER!!!!

Zeeak4444 posted...

was he telling the officers to not touch him?

My interpretation was that it was one of the protester's friends yelling "don't touch him," and by the sound of it, the same guy who was screaming "he's not resisting!!!!" even though he obviously was resisting.

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But he was resisting!, after the cop forced contact and a team of cops jumped on him. Your issue should be with the forced contact, yet you conveniently brush off what caused the incident and focus on the resisting. And no. Shouting near a cop isnt illegal.

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Gobstoppers12 posted...


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Honestly, imagine if cops were well trained and held accountable enough to actually protect and serve. He could have easily turned around, and had a talk with the dude. There was absolutely no reason to arrest him, much less for that many dudes to jump in
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MarqueeSeries posted...

Honestly, imagine if cops were well trained and held accountable enough to actually protect and serve. He could have easily turned around, and had a talk with the dude. There was absolutely no reason to arrest him, much less for that many dudes to jump in

Honestly, he could've just ignored it and moved on, too

Gobstoppers12 posted...

Y'all are expressing an interesting interpretation of these events.

I mean...the dude in the crowd yelling "he's not resisting!" as the dude is literally trying to pull himself away and run? That's a pretty good example of having no earthly idea what you're talking about, but saying it loudly enough that it sounds true.

Can you close your fucking account already and make this board a better place?

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VipaGTS posted...

forced contact

Nobody forced him to be so close that a brief stop would lead the protester to collide with the officer. The protester chose to be where he was. Concepts like personal space exist for a reason.

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ZMythos posted...

Can you close your fucking account already and make this board a better place?

Shut the fuck up <3

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Zeeak4444 posted...

almost as interesting as freaking out and screaming dont touch him 20 times, by which point the dude was thrown to the ground by multiple officers.

was he telling the officers to not touch him?

I love how people expect cops not to freak out when cops are going crazy one people.

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Gobstoppers12 posted...

Shut the fuck up <3

It's not a game. Close your account. Stop devoting so much time to making false claims and irritating others on the internet. It's pathetic.

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RadiantAdolin posted...

MarqueeSeries posted...

Honestly, imagine if cops were well trained and held accountable enough to actually protect and serve. He could have easily turned around, and had a talk with the dude. There was absolutely no reason to arrest him, much less for that many dudes to jump in

Honestly, he could've just ignored it and moved on, too

This as well. Determining when and when not to engage should be considered safety training for cops.

I remember a story I heard about a vet that was making food for people at a park after some hurricane. Cop rolls up, tells him he's gotta go, what he's doing is illegal. The vet holds his hands out to motion to be cuffed, then puts them behind his back.

The cop basically tells him that the guy taking over his shift might not be so understanding, and to just be gone by his shift change, and leaves. That choice saved his life, because the guy had a weapon in the back of his waistband, and would have killed that cop.

Not every situation requires engagement.
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Gobstoppers12 posted...

Nobody forced him to be so close that a brief stop would lead the protester to collide with the officer. The protester chose to be where he was. Concepts like personal space exist for a reason.

Still wasn't a crime.

ZMythos posted...

It's not a game. Close your account. Stop devoting so much time to making false claims and irritating others on the internet. It's pathetic.

If you have seen me make a false claim, I welcome you to call it out and ask me to clarify or correct it. That is how debates work.

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Gobstoppers12 posted...

If you have seen me make a false claim, I welcome you to call it out and ask me to clarify or correct it. That is how debates work.

There's nothing to debate. You're exhausting to deal with on a daily basis and you clearly don't plan on changing. So just leave.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/feedback?type=28

Fill this out, log out, and don't come back.

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ZMythos posted...

There's nothing to debate.

There's always something to debate. I'm inviting you to discuss it with me. If you have nothing of value to say, might I suggest that you take your own advice? You're not contributing to the discussion in any way. You're only revealing to me that you have nothing better to do than attempt to control my opinions or silence my voice.

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shockthemonkey posted...

lmao youre the drunk uncle that no one wants to talk to at Thanksgiving, arent you?

I don't drink. And my family gets along just fine at every holiday gathering.

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shockthemonkey posted...

*tips fedora

Riveting.

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shockthemonkey posted...

So how long till gobby has another meltdown and cries about how hell never talk about politics here anymore?

You're proving my point about how useless it is to discuss these things. At some point you stopped arguing about the situation at hand and started to sling insults and generalizations at me. Is it because you're wrong and you know it?

I suspect you won't admit it, but we both know that the answer is yes.

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Does anyone know if the officer will recover from his injuries? Is there a gofundme I can donate to so he can cover his surgery and pt costs?

That's one of the donaldest things a donald cop could do tbh
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Gobstoppers12 posted...

https://i.imgur.com/9gxfGox.jpg

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Y'all are kinda sad. Have fun agreeing with each other.

Edit: Sorry, I should clarify. Have fun agreeing with each other and being wrong.

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ReturnOfThaJedi posted...

Lmao

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Gobstoppers12 posted...

Have fun

We will gladly have fun at your expense.

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Gobstoppers12 posted...

My interpretation was that it was one of the protester's friends yelling "don't touch him," and by the sound of it, the same guy who was screaming "he's not resisting!!!!" even though he obviously was resisting.

I mean you can see clear as day whos screaming dont touch him. Hes front and center in the video while yelling it.

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It's wartime. Protestors need to be war ready. Don't put yourself in a situation where police can abuse their power and arrest you. Stick close to the group. And the group must be prepared to defend their rights

Those cops are scumbags though. Under my reforms all involved would be immediately fired and imprisoned for assault and violating that protestors first degree rights and fourth degree rights.

There would be heavy penalties for law enforcement officials when it comes to violating these constitutional rights. I'm talking penalties of up to 25 years, just for violating these rights if proven and convicted

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Cop clearly didn't stop to get the protester to walk into him. Protester clearly walked behind the cop from a side position in which the cop couldn't see he crossed behind him. Protester clearly accidentally bumped the police officer. Police clearly began to arrest the man thinking he hit the officer. Protester clearly resisted the arrest.

Analysis.

It was an accident.
He wouldn't have been forcefully detained at the end if he hadn't resisted.
If he hadn't resisted, he would have likely been let go as they sorted it out and realized the accident.
Resisting is a crime.
However, he will likely be let off when reviewing it became more obvious it was just an accident.

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