Current Events > [MTG] This new card is so stompy

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I know very little about MtG.

Are there any fun ways to abuse his draw 1 card effect?

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Tough to deal with

AlisLandale posted...

I know very little about MtG.

Are there any fun ways to abuse his draw 1 card effect?

I don't play much MTG but I feel like that's the weakest effect on there.

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AlisLandale posted...

Are there any fun ways to abuse his draw 1 card effect?

Multiple combat phases is a common way, shapeshifter effects (card becomes a copy of target), etc.

Of course, having vigilance means it can block in the next turn, too, so you're on the bullet train to card-draw paradise.

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Cant wait to get killed by this in draft

I see the MTG power creep is as alive as ever.

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I have no clue how MTG works. Can someone spoonfeed a n00b like me as to why this is broken? >_>

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NeonOctopus posted...

I have no clue how MTG works. Can someone spoonfeed a n00b like me as to why this is broken? >_>

its not really broken its just very strong, this thing has to wait a turn before it does anything and dies to doomblade

Frostshock posted...

I don't play much MTG but I feel like that's the weakest effect on there.

Gain 3 life is way weaker than draw a card.

AlisLandale posted...

Are there any fun ways to abuse his draw 1 card effect?

I feel like most ways of abusing it would be better served abusing a different card tbh. I don't think this goes in the type of deck that wants those shenanigans.

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NeonOctopus posted...

I have no clue how MTG works. Can someone spoonfeed a n00b like me as to why this is broken? >_>

It can get killed by removal, but it has several pluses:

• Vigilance means it can attack without tapping, i.e. it can block in the next turn
• Trample means even when it's blocked, damage can get through (and the opponent's creatures may die)
• Reach means it can block flying creatures, the most common type of evasion, which stalls the opponent further
• Making 3/3 tokens fills up the board
• Free card draw in green is always good
• Lifegain in green is a good delay tactic

It's doing just about everything green loves to do without tapping for mana, lmao.

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After the Grim Tutor, Ugin, and Azusa reprints I almost don't care to look at the rest of the set this spoiler season. I don't play standard so I'm unsure if this is good enough, but Questing Beast isn't being played is it? Because that and this new beast look so fucking pushed/powercrept. Also:

soulunison2 posted...

Cant wait to get killed by this in draft

Lmao

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MJOLNRVII posted...

After the Grim Tutor, Ugin, and Azusa reprints I almost don't care to look at the rest of the set this spoiler season. I don't play standard so I'm unsure if this is good enough, but Questing Beast isn't being played is it? Because that and this new beast look so fucking pushed/powercrept. Also:

Lmao

its a combo winter bro lol big creatures dont mean anything when people are playing two free spells a turn

fucking monl red has a seven drop blue creature at the top of its curve

Questing Beast is being played and far better than this. There are better 5 drops in green. Itll be a bomb in limited tho

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Shotgunnova posted...

It can get killed by removal, but it has several pluses:
* Vigilance means it can attack without tapping, i.e. it can block in the next turn
* Trample means even when it's blocked, damage can get through (and the opponent's creatures may die)
* Reach means it can block flying creatures, the most common type of evasion, which stalls the opponent further
* Making 3/3 tokens fills up the board
* Free card draw in green is always good
* Lifegain in green is a good delay tactic
It's doing just about everything green loves to do without tapping for mana, lmao.

So basically it's just a huge wall? >_>

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soulunison2 posted...

its a combo winter bro lol big creatures dont mean anything when people are playing two free spells a turn

Fires is banned, unless you're talking about something else?

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MJOLNRVII posted...

Fires is banned, unless you're talking about something else?

fires recently got banned, Lukka is just gonna cheat out something bigger now that Agent is banned

its a vicious circle

Seems pretty fucking good for a 5 drop.
He's not even legendary so you can have four on the field.

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NeonOctopus posted...

So basically it's just a huge wall? >_>

Yes, although in MTG, Walls are an actual creature type with high defense (usually) and defender, the keyword that prevents 'em from attacking. Example:



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soulunison2 posted...

fires recently got banned, Lukka is just gonna cheat out something bigger now that Agent is banned

its a vicious circle

Agent is so much better than the next best thing that Lukka would cheat out.

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Anteaterking posted...

Agent is so much better than the next best thing that Lukka would cheat out.

who knows bro, were like week one into the new meta and I dont doubt lukka doesnt get broken again

Honestly forgot Lukka existed. I usually only hear about the cards people really hate like Fires or some of the companions in other formats. I wanna see if Ugin can do anything and how fast people can get him out.

Oh and while I'm here I may as well ask, what card from Ikoria seems most likely to get baned? WotC seems to not go after cards from the newest standard sets, and I hear complaints about Winota every now and then(or was that for Historic/Brawl <_<).

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MJOLNRVII posted...

Honestly forgot Lukka existed. I usually only hear about the cards people really hate like Fires or some of the companions in other formats. I wanna see if Ugin can do anything and how fast people can get him out.

fun fact, birds of paradise was supposed to be in this set, imagine how stupid standard would be with BoP in standard

MJOLNRVII posted...

Honestly forgot Lukka existed. I usually only hear about the cards people really hate like Fires or some of the companions in other formats. I wanna see if Ugin can do anything and how fast people can get him out.

Oh and while I'm here I may as well ask, what card from Ikoria seems most likely to get baned? WotC seems to not go after cards from the newest standard sets, and I hear complaints about Winota every now and then(or was that for Historic/Brawl <_<)

Winota wont get banned now,
banisher priest is in standard so there goes that

Lmao Winota just got suspended in historic. Well deserved

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Vivec posted...

Lmao Winota just got suspended in historic. Well deserved

damn, that's crazy I won't lie. I don't play historic or standard but I'm not surprised

Someone posted a pic of them getting a WOTC employee to -182 life on turn 3 or 4 with Winota and Marauders, wonder if that was the last straw

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Oh, wow. I never play Green, but that's a damn good card for 5 mana

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Vivec posted...

Someone posted a pic of them getting a WOTC employee to -182 life on turn 3 or 4 with Winota and Marauders, wonder if that was the last straw

omg I need sauce this is amazing and I 100% believe this happened

Xenagos posted...

Power creep? Full on power stampede

So long as Sinkhole and Counterspell are still absent, there is no power creep.

NeonOctopus posted...

So basically it's just a huge wall? >_>

Walls can't attack

This thing attacks each turn, blocks flying each turn and makes more shit to attack and block with by doing both. I'm sure there are cards that can give it hexproof as well

Me? I'll just steal it from you, attack with it, and then throw it at you

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And of course it's Mythic Rare

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AlisLandale posted...

I know very little about MtG.

Are there any fun ways to abuse his draw 1 card effect?

No. You can only attack and block once per turn.

But because it has vigilance it can do both.

Slap something like regeneration on it and you've created one of the most fucking annoying pieces of shit you've ever seen.

5 Mana for a 6/6 with literally no drawbacks whatsoever is also really good. For comparison, an long time ago when cards were way more OP in general, one of the best creatures was a 5/5 Juzam Djinn which cost 4 Mana and did 1 damage to you at the start of your turn.

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After a decade or so of becoming "Creatures: The Blocking", MTG badly needs a removal renaissance.

Card draw is absolutely something that gives power. People I play against seriously underestimate the power of card draw and that's why they usually lose. They sit and wait for their best strategies, I guarantee that I'll have them as soon as possible.

I'd run a few of this guy in a mono green or green/black deck along with a lot of mana ramp. Probably not as a win-con but you'd probably score a few wins for sure just by wearing people down with him.

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Questionmarktarius posted...

After a decade or so of becoming "Creatures: The Blocking", MTG badly needs a removal renaissance.

Reprint Wrath, Jokalhaups, and Plowshares all in a single set.

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Tyranthraxus posted...

Reprint Wrath, Jokalhaups, and Plowshares all in a single set.

Reprint Armageddon and Ravages of War in the same set, just to turn the screw even more.

Questionmarktarius posted...

After a decade or so of becoming "Creatures: The Blocking", MTG badly needs a removal renaissance.

I doubt it'll happen. MTG went this direction intentionally, apparently because their market research said that most players like strong creatures and interactive combat.

And the best part is this thing is green so you can play it turn 3.

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BewmHedshot posted...

And the best part is this thing is green so you can play it turn 3.

You could probably play it turn 2 depending on how many of the mana generators from elfball decks are still available in standard.

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card looks powerful but it isn't going to be played in standard or anywhere but some bad edh deck

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tiornys posted...

I doubt it'll happen. MTG went this direction intentionally, apparently because their market research said that most players like strong creatures and interactive combat.

Thus, Mr. Suitcase will continue to devour "big creatures are awesome" noobs, until they both get bored and quit.
It's never been a secret that MTG depends on rampant churn, which is the operating theory behind trashing half of your collection every year - or, even better, starting completely over with three boosters each for every session.

Thats ridiculous for a CMC 5 card.

Back in my day we played 3/5 Cockatrices, 5/4 Fire Elementals or Sengirs/Serras and liked it!

Get off my lawn!

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Croutonman posted...

Thats ridiculous for a CMC 5 card.

pfft.

Is that really a powerful card? Its been a while since ive played but i remember elves having far more ridiculous abilities. Slivers as well.
Also maybe im remembering wrong but cards like Force of Will and Memory Jar were way better. Like theres a million ways to deal with creatures. Just oblivion ring it. Its probably not even worth using an oblivion ring on

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I don't know if questing beast has just totally broken my reference scale for green creatures but I looked at that and mostly just thought "oh, ok, whatever"

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Rika_Furude posted...

Is that really a powerful card?

No. Not really.
Creatures have just been awful compared to everything else, since most of forever. Even the "classics" like Serra and Sengir were only really used to end the game after it had been locked down otherwise.