Current Events > What exactly is the goal of the protests?

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I'm by no means saying people don't have a right to protest or be outraged. I want to know where the protests are trying to go. A new law for police? I think a goal of "end racism" or "start the police over from scratch" seem a little nebulous and I feel like all the energy directed at a focus or systematic steps would be more powerful.

Where are the donations going? Is it to get people out of bail? Scholarships? I feel like there's a ton of good will but I don't know what it's being directed at.

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change the system. end police corruption. make cops have to go through better training, that doesn't teach them to want to murder citizens, especially black citizens.

For most, protesting meets the immediate goal of reducing the feeling of loneliness and mental illness, or otherwise general malaise, while their banks are steadily depleting and no jobs are available, all due to COVID-19.
This is why foreigners also marched into their streets during lockdowns, which the U.S. doesn't even have.
There are far too many people using the death of George Floyd as a scapegoat for their own desires and wants.

After that, protest is artful expression, and it's a mustering of resolve for the true goal of changing laws both national and international. This requires leadership, which, as of yet, has not been pinpointed. Let it be known leadership would necessarily not be a white person, as a white leader will be berated, distrusted, and criticized heavily for speaking while white over an issue that is claimed by too many to be uniquely black.

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Wait, but The Guardian says that defunding is the solution to our problems with police, and that stuff like better training doesnt work :<

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https://twitter.com/Phil_Lewis_/status/1269616666129858560?s=19
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I can't believe defunding the police is becoming a real movement. If you want better police (better training and regulation of bad behavior) you need more funding.

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It should be change in legislation and policy, but we will see if they get that far

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Squall28 posted...

I can't believe defunding the police is becoming a real movement. If you want better police (better training and regulation of bad behavior) you need more funding.

they get a shit ton of funding right now. and their training is horrible.

maybe make them spend the money on actual training and not on war weapons. that's what happens. all that money they get goes to tools to oppress. they don't spend much of it on training

yea
protests are to change something in the status quo, showing the strength in numbers of how much the people want the change.

theyll protest until theyre are heard. the response in leadership seems like they could be protesting for some time until they get the response all the protesting wants

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HBOSS posted...

yea
protests are to change something in the status quo, showing the strength in numbers of how much the people want the change.

theyll protest until theyre are heard. the response in leadership seems like they could be protesting for some time until they get the response all the protesting wants

they may end up protesting all summer and into this fall right up to election day. and I hope they do.

Squall28 posted...

I can't believe defunding the police is becoming a real movement. If you want better police (better training and regulation of bad behavior) you need more funding.

Police departments in large cities receive an absurd amount of funding as it is

https://mobile.twitter.com/ElectRyanDorsey/status/1268868843021230086

Money better spent elsewhere imo

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we need to cut police funding and we need to cut military funding. 2 massive wastes of money. people wonder why we are in debt. that is why

IMNOTRAGED posted...

Police departments in large cities receive an absurd amount of funding as it is

https://mobile.twitter.com/ElectRyanDorsey/status/1268868843021230086

Money better spent elsewhere imo

I didn't know they got so much. Thanks for sharing.

I wonder where it all goes.

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Nothing, it's just a bunch of bullshit.

Squall28 posted...

I wonder where it all goes.

most of it is spent on weapons for cracking down on us

Squall28 posted...

I can't believe defunding the police is becoming a real movement. If you want better police (better training and regulation of bad behavior) you need more funding.

I sort of agree. However police have been using their surplus to become a localized military rather than allocating it's funds towards other resources.

Each police force has different needs which makes the whole thing complicated. Police reform and training should be the priority. Defunding the police means a smaller police force.

I would prefer having a smaller police force that were efficiently trained than an army of morally bankrupt goons.

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Squall28 posted...

If you want better police (better training and regulation of bad behavior) you need more funding.

Kids, what's the definition of insanity?

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CyricZ posted...

Kids, what's the definition of insanity?

Expecting people to follow laws with no law enforcement

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I wish people didn't judge others so much because there are lots of people needing help and they are being deposited on the river bank and forgotten.

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Batman might as well hold up a sign and yell: JUSTICE!!!

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cause as much chaos to make powerful people feel guilty or something

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Imagine believing that tc was truly asking a question he couldn't already answer himself.

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maybe instead of putting all those resources into locking up and brutalizing a struggling population(mainly black people) put more into building a decent society to live in. a healthy living environment instead of endless buy-ins, swindles and land mines.

People better be getting reimbursed for any damages done to their property

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IMNOTRAGED posted...

Police departments in large cities receive an absurd amount of funding as it is

https://mobile.twitter.com/ElectRyanDorsey/status/1268868843021230086

As somebody who lived in Baltimore for about 6 months, whatever theyre spending, it aint enough. I wouldnt even drive through Baltimore if they slashed the police budget any lower.

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BeyondWalls posted...

As somebody who lived in Baltimore for about 6 months, whatever theyre spending, it aint enough. I wouldnt even drive through Baltimore if they slashed the police budget any lower.

Man I just realized this is the city The Wire is based on. How do you even begin to fix a city like that? Goddamn

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Zikten posted...

we need to cut police funding and we need to cut military funding. 2 massive wastes of money. people wonder why we are in debt. that is why

Nearly every single post you make just screams that you lack any real life experience, critical thinking skills or prolonged time outside.

the vast majority of military spending goes to soldiers salary, bah and other living expenses. Goes hand in hand with having the largest strongest military in the world. Very little of our military budget is spend on research and design or building weapons

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Squall28 posted...

Man I just realized this is the city The Wire is based on. How do you even begin to fix a city like that? Goddamn

Increase funding in the other areas on that chart.

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EdgeMaster posted...

Nearly every single post you make just screams that you lack any real life experience, critical thinking skills or prolonged time outside.

the vast majority of military spending goes to soldiers salary, bah and other living expenses. Goes hand in hand with having the largest strongest military in the world. Very little of our military budget is spend on research and design or building weapons

Maybe we don't need so many soldiers

things won't change until doing the right thing and making life better for people is profitable for those in charge, be it CEOs of companies or people in office.

i think that everyone knows that to a degree, and the protests are just in hopes that leaders/powerful people will see "oh shit, we can't do what we've been doing..it's gonna be too expensive"

money talks more than voices ever could, sadly.

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They are getting what they want, a pat on the head/affirmation from authorities, corporations and social media that are now pandering to them. That is the most they will get.

Protests by themselves don't actually do anything, but they have a massive impact on optics and media, which is the whole point. Historically, that's what causes laws to change.

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There really isn't one because there is no specific problem being addressed. Many police departments are run by poc, most cities where protests are happening are run by democrats. You can vote them out and elect... a republican? Doubt that's what people want.
For policy change the only thing people are saying is abolish the police, which taken at face value is a bad idea. Reducing the scope of police work also wouldn't do much unless a plethora of laws that define what crimes are and if they lead to jail time are changed.
Unlike the civil rights movement of the 60s,there aren't any leaders today to provide a clear goal.

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EdgeMaster posted...

Nearly every single post you make just screams that you lack any real life experience, critical thinking skills or prolonged time outside.

the vast majority of military spending goes to soldiers salary, bah and other living expenses. Goes hand in hand with having the largest strongest military in the world. Very little of our military budget is spend on research and design or building weapons

So much of our budget is wasted on supplies that are never used, or even necessary for emergency supplies. What they -really- need is proper auditing.

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casio_guy posted...

things won't change until doing the right thing and making life better for people is profitable for those in charge, be it CEOs of companies or people in office.

The thing is it is profitable to have a happy and safe citizenry... in the long run.

For people looking to make the quick buck, well...

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TomNook20 posted...

most cities where protests are happening are run by democrats. You can vote them out and elect... a republican? Doubt that's what people want.

You're correct; it's not what people want. These aren't protests calling for people to go vote.
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The inner citys will only be even more of a shithole if they defund and disband the police so this doeasnt benefit anyone except criminals.

This is why I'm committed to moving either to rural or suburban areas for the most part.

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Prismsblade posted...

The inner citys will only be even more of a shithole if they defund and disband the police so this doeasnt benefit anyone except criminals.

This is why I'm committed to moving either to rural or suburban areas for the most part.

The cops do not make the inner city better. They make the more affluent areas near inner cities better.

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Evening_Dragon posted...

The cops do not make the inner city better. They make the more affluent areas near inner cities better.

Those areas are better becuase the people are better. Which usually transfers to the mayors, police force, and most other facets of the community.


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Prismsblade posted...

Those areas are better becuase the people are better. Which usually transfers to the mayors, police force, and most other facets of the community.

And no one was talking about that, but I see what kind of person you are. I forget your username, shoulda tagged you sooner.

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