Current Events > Brooklyn 99 should be #Cancelled.

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They try to humanize cops

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this topic should be canceled

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The saddest part of it all is that police officers are human.

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refmon posted...

They try to humanize cops

I humanized yo momma!

All of these shows need to be cancelled. They make it seem like cops have a sense of morality when 99% of the time in these cities they don't.

Brooklyn 99
Law and Order SVU
Chicago PD
Blue Bloods

not sure of any others
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Wait...cops aren't human!?

I can't believe B99 tries to act like they don't all just beat random people in the street, what a shitty show

I don't like most real cops. but I sometimes will enjoy a cop show. I see it as an idealistic portrayal of what we wish cops were like. like how Star Trek depicted an ideal but probably impossible future

bk99 actually makes reference to police brutality and other social issues quite frequently
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Wii_Shaker posted...

The saddest part of it all is that police officers are human.

Until you know sever police officers (I do btw) who are human beings just like you, have families, are husbands, fathers, sons, etc., this topic can fuck right off.

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DarthAragorn posted...

I can't believe B99 tries to act like they don't all just beat random people in the street, what a shitty show

the issue is when you see a cop drama on TV it is almost always a group of whites with perfect moral sensibilities that do everything "by the book" and how it should be, leading people to believe that this is how the real police work when they don't. cop dramas are set in a utopia where police corruption and racism only exists among few cops, which are immediately dealt with in a single episode. as far as cop dramas are concerned, the "only a few bad apples" narrative is completely fucking true.
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oh also in the Chicago franchise, the first time we ever get exposed to the police was in a season 1 episode of Chicago Fire where one of the firefighters enters a conflict with a corrupt cop trying to cover up that his son caused someone to die in a car accident. this was before the PD spinoff existed and it was just Chicago Fire as the only show. later they retconned it that the cops were good when they got their own show

Agreed. Not for humanizing cops as much as inaccurrately portraying the way they really operate.

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ThisGuyAreSick posted...

the issue is when you see a cop drama on TV it is almost always a group of whites with perfect moral sensibilities that do everything "by the book" and how it should be, leading people to believe that this is how the real police work when they don't. cop dramas are set in a utopia where police corruption and racism only exists among few cops, which are immediately dealt with in a single episode. as far as cop dramas are concerned, the "only a few bad apples" narrative is completely fucking true.

Brooklyn 99 is a very diverse show.

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Phantom36 posted...

Until you know sever police officers (I do btw) who are human beings just like you, have families, are husbands, fathers, sons, etc., this topic can fuck right off.

Some are also wives, mothers, daughters as well....

But also that doesn't make them heroes. Evil people have families too

Darmik posted...

Brooklyn 99 is a very diverse show.

This is 100% true by the way.

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Darmik posted...

Brooklyn 99 is a very diverse show.

okay cool but try to tell me the rest of my post didn't apply to them

all's i'm saying is painting a narrative that cops are only a few bad apples and having it broadcasted to boomers and other people in charge of voting/making policy is toxic as fuck and needs to stop

so many of these "few bad apples" excusers are just a bunch of boomers who never interacted with actual cops and just think that all cops work like they do on law and order and blue bloods. that's not real life.
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https://youtu.be/rIYuU2_rYP0
https://youtu.be/GZVsfSy4CVI

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They just did an episode where a crooked cop got exposed and got arrested & jail time. In fact, they've done it multiple times. There was also an episode with Terry (Terry Crews) being stopped by a cop as well:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBPJc4V7wmA

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ThisGuyAreSick posted...

okay cool but try to tell me the rest of my post didn't apply to them

all's i'm saying is painting a narrative that cops are only a few bad apples and having it broadcasted to boomers and other people in charge of voting/making policy is toxic as fuck and needs to stop

so many of these "few bad apples" excusers are just a bunch of boomers who never interacted with actual cops and just think that all cops work like they do on law and order and blue bloods. that's not real life.

Not really.

The ideal thing is a gay African-American man worked his way up to Captain and as a result the cops under him are generally pretty good. But there's constant references to the discrimination he did and still does receive. I totally think next season will have an episode about the protests.

But at the end of the day it's a comedy about a bunch of quirky detectives. So most of it is comedy. But the show does wear its politics on its sleeve and it's a pretty liberal show.

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ThisGuyAreSick posted...

okay cool but try to tell me the rest of my post didn't apply to them

A pretty significant part of the show actually is them constantly working against a system that promotes and rewards corruption, bad policing, incompetence, etc. The "bad guys" that the precinct is going up against are constantly other people within the police system.

Zikten posted...

I don't like most real cops. but I sometimes will enjoy a cop show. I see it as an idealistic portrayal of what we wish cops were like. like how Star Trek depicted an ideal but probably impossible future

Yeah, I view it as meritocratic. There's been several arcs and stories in most cop shows that show police corruption and profiling - including 99 - while also presenting the main cast as what they should aspire to be. No matter how farfetched or romanticized.
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why throw SVU under the bus? they're detectives out to solve serial killer and rapist cases, they're not even beat cops

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Tenlaar posted...

Wait...cops aren't human!?

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To be fair most cop shows are about plain clothes detectives and not uniformed police too.

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COPS and Live PD are waaaaaay worse than any fictional shows. At least people watching SVU know the characters aren't real, but COPS and Live PD are legit propaganda.

Holt is clearly a robot. No emotions. Monotone voice
Rosa is also possibly a robot. Probably a sexbot
Amy with her organizing everything also most likely a robot
Jake made a baby with her, so another robot as robots and humans can't procreate
Charles has another person that looks and acts exactly like him. Robot most likely but possible clone
Hitchcock/Scully were once human but now at best now some sort of cyborg
Terry has inhuman strength. Obvious robot

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Brooklyn 99s only legitimate misstep on this subject was the cringey, shallow, limp-wristed episode that brought up the reality of peoples perception of the police, when Holt was trying to do some sort of weird marketing campaign and people kept vandalizing Amys posters.

It was such a weak ass these problems exist! kind of message that didnt mean anything.

Of course, the episode where Terry got stopped in a neighborhood while looking for his daughters doll was really good and well-written, so it evens out

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ThisGuyAreSick posted...

Brooklyn 99
Law and Order SVU
Chicago PD
Blue Bloods

No.
No.
I don't know.
Yes.

Some police dramas and procedurals do actually affect how people view police, crime, and forensics, some for the positive and some for the negative. Shows that give a realistic or legally based view, like SVU, can even educate the viewers. Others that focus on drama or glorification of the police tend to do the opposite and viewers learn incorrect information about police, crime, and forensics. There have been multiple studies on the this.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CSI_effect
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0887403407305982
https://www.jstor.org/stable/23027459?seq=1
https://www.jstor.org/stable/1147453?seq=1
http://www.ncsociology.org/sociationtoday/v151/iceland.html
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fsoc.2019.00065/full

So grandparents watching NCIS all day probably have a less realistic view of criminality than someone who watches no television.

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Jiek_Fafn posted...

Holt is clearly a robot. No emotions. Monotone voice
Rosa is also possibly a robot. Probably a sexbot
Amy with her organizing everything also most likely a robot
Jake made a baby with her, so another robot as robots and humans can't procreate
Charles has another person that looks and acts exactly like him. Robot most likely but possible clone
Hitchcock/Scully were once human but now at best now some sort of cyborg
Terry has inhuman strength. Obvious robot

LMFAO

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Jiek_Fafn posted...

Holt is clearly a robot. No emotions. Monotone voice
Rosa is also possibly a robot. Probably a sexbot
Amy with her organizing everything also most likely a robot
Jake made a baby with her, so another robot as robots and humans can't procreate
Charles has another person that looks and acts exactly like him. Robot most likely but possible clone
Hitchcock/Scully were once human but now at best now some sort of cyborg
Terry has inhuman strength. Obvious robot

Why is Gina a robot?

And Pimento?

And Wuntch?(sp?)


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epik_fail1 posted...

Why is Gina a robot?

And Pimento?

And Wuntch?(sp?)

Gina abandoned her bff since childhood. Like she doesn't even come up in conversation anymore. Who would be able to just cut ties like that besides a robot? Just turned her emotions off

Pimento is pretty obvious. No human is that durable. Probably also a sexbot

Wuntch is one of the only human characters.


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Jiek_Fafn posted...

Gina abandoned her bff since childhood. Like she doesn't even come up in conversation anymore. Who would be able to just cut ties like that besides a robot? Just turned her emotions off

Pimento is pretty obvious. No human is that durable. Probably also a sexbot

Wuntch is one of the only human characters.

And the incompetent police captain(I forgot his name)

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Jiek_Fafn posted...

Gina abandoned her bff since childhood. Like she doesn't even come up in conversation anymore. Who would be able to just cut ties like that besides a robot? Just turned her emotions off

Pimento is pretty obvious. No human is that durable. Probably also a sexbot

Wuntch is one of the only demon characters.

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SSJKirby posted...

this topic should be canceled

Why stop there?

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DarthAragorn posted...

fixed

She only came off evil because she was fighting in the resistance against the robots. That's why she tried to crush the 99 and desperately tried to keep Holt out of power. That's like pretending John Connor is evil.

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viewmaster_pi posted...

why throw SVU under the bus? they're detectives out to solve serial killer and rapist cases, they're not even beat cops

because for the entire run of SVU every cop and detective was a "good cop" and the boogeyman "bad cops" were one of a few that the whole precinct would get on and throw under the bus

thats not how it works in real life

Shows that give a realistic or legally based view, like SVU, can even educate the viewers.

LOL
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Law and Order is often based on real cases with real consequences, generally follows real procedures (you rarely see someone bust down a door to gather evidence, and it's thrown out if they do), and follows real law. Maybe you can say that SVU shows how the law is supposed to work, even when the criminal gets off. Not everything is accurate to real life, especially relations and drama, but it is realistic-ish and often does inform the viewers.

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ChocoboMog123 posted...

Law and Order is often based on real cases with real consequences, generally follows real procedures (you rarely see someone bust down a door to gather evidence, and it's thrown out if they do), and follows real law. Maybe you can say that SVU shows how the law is supposed to work, even when the criminal gets off. Not everything is accurate to real life, especially relations and drama, but it is realistic-ish and often does inform the viewers.

law and order in the 90s and early 00s was actually very realistic. it showed a ton of corruption and the gang culture of the NYPD, and some of the main detectives even had their own moral dilemmas as well

SVU? lmao. that show is a fairy tale where the NYPD is perfect and all the bad cops that come out once a season are put in their place by the greater good detectives. Lol if you think that's realistic
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