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Phantom_Nook
05/28/20 7:35:46 PM
#52:


Trump acting faster on this than he did on the pandemic.

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darkknight109
05/28/20 7:35:58 PM
#53:


RedPixel posted...
Censorship deserves scrutiny.
Oh good, I get to post this again.

Here's the thing Trump and the rest of the idiot brigade don't like to bring up.

Conservatives have fought hard for years for corporations - like Twitter - to have rights on par with individuals.

This is an entirely valid exercise of those rights.

Twitter does not have to guarantee equal access to their platform. They can moderate it and allow/block whatever content they like. They are a private company and, as such, the government cannot compel speech from them and demand that they allow content that could potentially harm their business, and it is up to Twitter to define what that is.

Tomorrow, Twitter could ban all conservative posters from the platform and refuse to allow anything that isn't fawning adoration of left-wing views and there is not a damn thing the government can do to stop them. Doing so would not be illegal or a violation of anyone's rights. When you sign up to Twitter - or any other social media page - you hastily click through a Terms of Service that grants that platform the ability to modify or delete anything you post and/or ban you from the service, for any reason, with no warning. Don't like it? Don't use Twitter. Simple as that.

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OhhhJa
05/28/20 7:39:28 PM
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Blightzkrieg posted...
And your go to strategy for this is giving unchecked massive powers to a manbaby who's entire motive is his feelings getting hurt? To put this in terms y'all might get, this is like letting Tyrone fuck your girl just to spite Chad.
This is something he should have done a long time ago in my opinion. I don't see how this gives him any power other than being able to do an executive order. The only power this enables him is to post on Twitter without penalty lol
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BlackScythe0
05/28/20 7:47:21 PM
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WastelandCowboy posted...
https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/28/politics/trump-twitter-social-media-executive-order/index.html
Speaking from the Oval Office ahead of signing the order, Trump said the move was to "defend free speech from one of the gravest dangers it has faced in American history."

Yes directly, DIRECTLY, assaulting freedom of speech is going to defend it.

RedPixel posted...
Censorship deserves scrutiny. It's really not a bad thing that this gets public eye.

If something can be destroyed by the truth, it ought to be destroyed by the truth.

Attacking the exec order because Trump signed it is ridiculous here. If Obama did this, the left would be cheering. Seriously.

Edit: I just got warned over a certain 100+ post topic, ironically because I targeted censorship.

Why do conservatives try this? What does censorship deserves scrutiny even mean? Trump was fucking lying and they called him a liar. He doesn't like it stop fucking lying.

The executive order isn't being attacked because Trump signed it, it's being attacked because it is blatantly and overtly unconstitutional and the greatest assault of freedom of speech which has ever occurred in my life time, by far. Your bull shit "both sides" needs to stop, just because conservatives don't care about the constitution doesn't mean a Obama voter would shit on it too.

Get your lies out of here.
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darkknight109
05/28/20 7:54:30 PM
#56:


OhhhJa posted...
The only power this enables him is to post on Twitter without penalty lol
So you're in favour of politicians removing the right for people to question them or claim that they are incorrect?

Sounds kind of like a first amendment violation to me (and also autocracy), but OK...

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TheWorstPoster
05/28/20 8:08:01 PM
#57:


darkknight109 posted...
So you're in favour of politicians removing the right for people to question them or claim that they are incorrect?

Sounds kind of like a first amendment violation to me (and also autocracy), but OK...
No.

We are in favor instead for the PEOPLE themselves to find out what is real.
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WastelandCowboy
05/28/20 8:10:11 PM
#58:


TheWorstPoster posted...
No.

We are in favor instead for the PEOPLE themselves to find out what is real.
So this notification that Trump's tweets may not be 100% truth is good, yeah? Helps others realize that all isn't as it seems, especially among leaders.
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ClarkDuke
05/28/20 8:11:18 PM
#59:


TheWorstPoster posted...
No.

We are in favor instead for the PEOPLE themselves to find out what is real.
but most of the people have the detective skills of... well, you, and you couldn't find your hand if it was in front of your face, ok?

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TheWorstPoster
05/28/20 8:12:15 PM
#60:


WastelandCowboy posted...
So this notification that Trump's tweets may not be 100% truth is good, yeah? Helps others realize that all isn't as it seems, especially among leaders.
Do you honestly believe that Twitter would have done the same thing if the President was a Democrat?
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ClarkDuke
05/28/20 8:14:45 PM
#61:


TheWorstPoster posted...
Do you honestly believe that Twitter would have done the same thing if the President was a Democrat?
well if that president was a narcissistic sociopath also, i would say, yes, ok?

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Blighboy
05/28/20 8:16:35 PM
#62:


TheWorstPoster posted...
Do you honestly believe that Twitter would have done the same thing if the President was a Democrat?
You've literally created a fake situation in your mind to justify your delusion lmao

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WastelandCowboy
05/28/20 8:17:19 PM
#63:


TheWorstPoster posted...
Do you honestly believe that Twitter would have done the same thing if the President was a Democrat?
If a Democrat was continuously ranting lies and false statements, probably? I cant say for sure because it wasnt really a huge issue in Bush Jrs last two years and Obama wasnt continuously lying. Also neither of them were using Twitter as their main method of communication.

but hey, were not talking about what ifs.
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TheWorstPoster
05/28/20 8:18:51 PM
#64:


WastelandCowboy posted...
If a Democrat was continuously ranting lies and false statements, probably? I cant say for sure because it wasnt really a huge issue in Bush Jrs last two years and Obama wasnt continuously lying.

but hey, were not talking about what ifs.
Actually, yes, Obama did lie a lot. And the social as well as mainstream media lapped it all up as true. They called out Bush for his lies though, but they protected Obama at all costs.
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TheWorstPoster
05/28/20 8:19:48 PM
#65:


ClarkDuke posted...
well if that president was a narcissistic sociopath also, i would say, yes, ok?
Ah yes, The sociopath who sent us into nuclear war with North Korea.
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WastelandCowboy
05/28/20 8:22:02 PM
#66:


TheWorstPoster posted...
Actually, yes, Obama did lie a lot. And the social as well as mainstream media lapped it all up as true. They called out Bush for his lies though, but they protected Obama at all costs.
Obama and Bush Jr werent using Twitter as their main method of communication.
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TheWorstPoster
05/28/20 8:22:51 PM
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WastelandCowboy posted...
Obama and Bush Jr werent using Twitter as their main method of communication.
Nope. Their main method of communication was via a teleprompter, which they would be completely lost without.
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Mead
05/28/20 8:23:40 PM
#68:


Phantom_Nook posted...
Trump acting faster on this than he did on the pandemic.

someone pointing out his lies is WAY more concerning to him that 100,000+ dead americans

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Blighboy
05/28/20 8:24:13 PM
#69:


TheWorstPoster posted...
Nope. Their main method of communication was via a teleprompter, which they would be completely lost without.
Durhur reading bad

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WastelandCowboy
05/28/20 8:25:24 PM
#70:


TheWorstPoster posted...
Nope. Their main method of communication was via a teleprompter, which they would be completely lost without.
Were not talking about teleprompters. Jfc.
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TheWorstPoster
05/28/20 8:31:05 PM
#71:


Blighboy posted...
Durhur reading bad

WastelandCowboy posted...
Were not talking about teleprompters. Jfc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcAGaN16OjQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuptSMRhInY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDJSVPAx8xc

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helIy
05/28/20 8:32:08 PM
#72:


Mead posted...
someone pointing out his lies is WAY more concerning to him that 100,000+ dead americans
also the fact that he hasnt actually done anything about the pandemic in general except sign his name in things other people wrote

i guess he also tried blackmailing states with equipment

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TheWorstPoster
05/28/20 8:36:28 PM
#73:


helIy posted...
also the fact that he hasnt actually done anything about the pandemic in general except sign his name in things other people wrote

i guess he also tried blackmailing states with equipment
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ coronavirus-outbreak-task-force-created-by-trump -to-lead-us-government-response-to-wuhan-virus/

Look at the date
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Blightzkrieg
05/28/20 8:37:41 PM
#74:


TheWorstPoster posted...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcAGaN16OjQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuptSMRhInY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDJSVPAx8xc
better ban twitter cause they put a fact check notice on Obama's teleprompter

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thedicemaster
05/28/20 8:37:48 PM
#75:


Joker_X_II posted...
The funny thing about "Private Companies can do what they want" argument is that it's not a rock solid shield to fall back on. There are "loopholes" in the system where Private Spaces can be utilized for Public Use; POPS (Privately Owned Public Space). Granted it only applies to public parks and other open spaces BUT it allows the public to maintain their rights within these private properties.... How this applies to the virtual space is not yet known (until now) because the internet is always an ever changing environment, old crusty lawmakers always have a hell of a time catching up.

Trump's executive order is a sign of things to come, when these "private companies" claim to service a public platform, they need to follow the rules and rights of the land no matter what. Facebook, Twitter, even here on gFAQs "should" be allowing free speech, as long as the speech isn't hateful or a call to physical violence (as the law states).

But if I want to talk about (like in the video I posted) "Trans-people in Female Sports", or "WHAT WERE THE VOTING DEMOGRAPHICS IN BRITISH COLUMBIA DURING THE 2019 ELECTION (RIGHT MODS!?!!?)".... I shouldn't have to be moderated to protect one side of the political spectrum.
you know that technically "free speech" in US law isn't actually a right citizens have but rather a restriction the government has, right?
the free speech laws don't say you can say whatever you want, the laws say that the government can't stop you unless they have a very good reason.
Twitter is not a government agency, so they don't have to follow those laws.
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GanonsSpirit
05/28/20 8:43:26 PM
#76:


TheWorstPoster posted...

No.

We are in favor instead for the PEOPLE themselves to find out what is real.

"Ignorance is good because it helps the Republicans"
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Cacciato
05/28/20 9:00:12 PM
#77:


TheWorstPoster posted...
Nope. Their main method of communication was via a teleprompter, which they would be completely lost without.
Jesus Christ. Im almost happy you abuse welfare and dont work since at least it keeps you out of public.
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TheWorstPoster
05/28/20 9:07:46 PM
#78:


GanonsSpirit posted...
"Ignorance is good because it helps the Republicans"
Actually, from what I have seen, the most misinformed voters are the ones who back Democratic politicians.
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Blightzkrieg
05/28/20 9:16:25 PM
#79:


Maybe we can get Mississippi and Alabama to teach classes on 4chan in elementary schools

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Phantom_Nook
05/28/20 9:18:21 PM
#80:


Blightzkrieg posted...
Maybe we can get Mississippi and Alabama to teach classes on 4chan in elementary schools
that's probably an improvement over learning about how the South will rise again.

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The_tall_midget
05/28/20 9:29:05 PM
#81:


papercup posted...
Censorship? That's a bit of a stretch lol

What kind of genius ACTUALLY believes that Twitter/YouTube and most medias do not practice targeted censorship? If there are any biases by companies who do not have the right to censor people, they need to be held accountable.

I can't see anyone with a functioning brain being against this premise.

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TheWorstPoster
05/28/20 9:36:46 PM
#82:


The_tall_midget posted...
What kind of genius ACTUALLY believes that Twitter/YouTube and most medias do not practice targeted censorship?
The ones who are not being censored, of course.
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The_tall_midget
05/28/20 9:38:02 PM
#83:


TheWorstPoster posted...
The ones who are not being censored, of course.

Well, yes, but as we know, they're morally righteous people and thus should not be censored in the first place!

Right?

right?

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Clench281
05/28/20 9:58:36 PM
#84:


I refuse to believe icoyar is a real person.

After over a decade, having made zero progress as a person... Is that even possible? Is the persona just maintained by a consortium of people wanting to stir the pot?

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helIy
05/28/20 10:09:14 PM
#85:


The_tall_midget posted...
What kind of genius ACTUALLY believes that Twitter/YouTube and most medias do not practice targeted censorship? If there are any biases by companies who do not have the right to censor people, they need to be held accountable.

I can't see anyone with a functioning brain being against this premise.

both twitter and youtube can do literally anything they want

and if youre using the platform, you explicitly agreed to let them do whatever they want towards you.

they are not public platforms. they are not government entities. they are privately owned. you agree to a terms of service.

trumps whole tirade here is because he posted some factually wrong shit, and twitter added a little message at the bottom of the tweet saying it was wrong.

they did not censor him, they did not violate any right that he may or may not have had, they did not remove his posts, they did not edit his posts.

he was fact checked. thats it.

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ECW_Originals12
05/28/20 10:30:34 PM
#87:


Can we get rid of both Trump AND Twitter?

.....and Biden?
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Monopoman
05/28/20 10:43:23 PM
#88:


Trump takes on Twitter for some reason a platform he used to help get himself the presidency. A site that he uses multiple times a day to this day to tweet to his followers.

Huh?

What?

This is almost as dumb as Trump coming after the fast food industry, when he probably buys more fast food than most people on Earth.
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Hop103
05/28/20 10:47:26 PM
#89:


That's good news, but expect Twitter to push back because this bill stops their platform from destroying lives. Zuck seems to be for this, even though I know it's because he doesn't want FB regulated to oblivion.
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papercup
05/28/20 11:01:36 PM
#90:


Again. It's not a bill. It's an executive order, and an extremely illegal one at that.

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Hop103
05/28/20 11:03:42 PM
#91:


papercup posted...
Again. It's not a bill. It's an executive order, and an extremely illegal one at that.


It's not illegal but yeah it's not a bill.
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FrozenBananas
05/28/20 11:05:05 PM
#92:


Monopoman posted...
Trump takes on Twitter for some reason a platform he used to help get himself the presidency. A site that he uses multiple times a day to this day to tweet to his followers.

Huh?

What?

This is almost as dumb as Trump coming after the fast food industry, when he probably buys more fast food than most people on Earth.

Trump has also started fights with Fox News this past week. Another major contributor to his presidency whats his goal here?


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GanonsSpirit
05/28/20 11:11:27 PM
#93:


TheWorstPoster posted...

Actually, from what I have seen, the most misinformed voters are the ones who back Democratic politicians.

Everyone on this board knows that you haven't seen shit.
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OhhhJa
05/28/20 11:18:18 PM
#94:


darkknight109 posted...
So you're in favour of politicians removing the right for people to question them or claim that they are incorrect?

Sounds kind of like a first amendment violation to me (and also autocracy), but OK...
This isn't hindering anyone's ability to question him mr. Melodramatic. Anyone can still tweet at him anytime he tweets. This simply requires social media platforms to be a little more responsible with their immense power over the public and appear more neutral (because anyone with half a brain can see that they are anything but neutral). I mean, it's pretty common knowledge that Christianity and conservatism are frowned upon in silicon valley. Even the show itself jokes about that with a gay man being angry about being outed as a Christian lol
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ninja_lootz
05/28/20 11:19:15 PM
#95:


Monopoman posted...
Trump takes on Twitter for some reason a platform he used to help get himself the presidency. A site that he uses multiple times a day to this day to tweet to his followers.

Huh?

What?

This is almost as dumb as Trump coming after the fast food industry, when he probably buys more fast food than most people on Earth.
This has been an issue since before Trump became president and it's something people have been asking him to do since day 1.

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GanonsSpirit
05/28/20 11:36:09 PM
#96:


ninja_lootz posted...

This has been an issue since before Trump became president and it's something people have been asking him to do since day 1.

Citation needed.
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OhhhJa
05/28/20 11:51:16 PM
#97:


GanonsSpirit posted...
Citation needed.
There have been a lot of people on the right calling for trump to do something about big tech
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GanonsSpirit
05/28/20 11:52:42 PM
#98:


OhhhJa posted...

There have been a lot of people on the right calling for trump to do something about big tech

GanonsSpirit posted...


Citation needed.

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OhhhJa
05/28/20 11:59:20 PM
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Do you really find that hard to believe? Do you need a citation for water being wet while I'm at it?
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FatalAccident
05/29/20 12:00:08 AM
#100:


Even ITT people are still defending this buffoon

I dont get ur country lol this is laughable

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s0m3kat
05/29/20 12:25:57 AM
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Should of been done years ago. Can't have it both ways, and bug tech has, for at least a decade

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