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SpacialEntropy
05/27/20 10:30:25 AM
#103:


dave_is_slick posted...
Nope

Yup.

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CountDog
05/27/20 10:36:41 AM
#104:


That cop deserves the chair. Cold blood murder.

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IShall_Run_Amok
05/27/20 10:37:07 AM
#105:


Good.

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DoubleDare
05/27/20 10:39:10 AM
#106:


MFBKBass5 posted...
The video seriously disgusts me. Wow. Cant even believe it.

https://abc13.com/6212794/?ex_cid=TA_KTRK_FB&utm_campaign=trueAnthem%3A+New+Content+%28Feed%29&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=facebook

If I was out there in Minnesota, Id be protesting in the streets too right now. I dont think a video has ever made me this mad. Watching those cops choke that dude to death as a spectator is trying to tell the cop hes hurting the guy...fuck.

Im seriously disgusted with the US right now.

Why are you disgusted with the US?
You should only be disgusted with the Minneapolis Police Dept. This doesn't represent the US.

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Houston
05/27/20 10:40:14 AM
#107:


CNN should complain they're not social distancing like they did with other recent protests

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ScazarMeltex
05/27/20 10:46:32 AM
#108:


DoubleDare posted...
Why are you disgusted with the US?
You should only be disgusted with the Minneapolis Police Dept. This doesn't represent the US.
This happens almost daily at this point all over the country.

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DevsBro
05/27/20 10:48:34 AM
#109:


WTF is this crap

Dude not even resisting, they're yelling get in the car at him while they're holding him down, WTDF.

The very best I can come up with is he had been resisting, and they're saying "why didn't you just get in the car" and all I can hear is the last bit but even if, the hell are they doing just sitting there on this guy's neck for no reason?

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littlebro07
05/27/20 10:49:39 AM
#110:


DevsBro posted...
the hell are they doing just sitting there on this guy's neck for no reason?

Oh they had a reason

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2Pacavelli
05/27/20 10:51:06 AM
#111:


DevsBro posted...
WTF is this crap

Dude not even resisting, they're yelling get in the car at him while they're holding him down, WTDF.

The very best I can come up with is he had been resisting, and they're saying "why didn't you just get in the car" and all I can hear is the last bit but even if, the hell are they doing just sitting there on this guy's neck for no reason?

It's to send a message. This was very deliberate

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cjsdowg
05/27/20 10:53:25 AM
#112:


Kami_no_Kami posted...
The American Revolution is a false equivalency and even if it wasnt, it was a war.

Do you want to start a war with the American government?

Do you think that rioting is equivalent to war?

Do you think that rioting will make people agree with your point of view?

If you answer yes to any of these questions, you are an idiot. All that rioting will do is make our side look like a bunch of thugs who arent worth listening to. Just because violence feels good in the short term, it does not mean that its any kind of path toward long term progress.

Rioting for a cause is like a a child trying to get his parents to buy him a toy by throwing a tantrum and kicking over tables. He has zero chance of success and almost 100% chance of making matters worse for himself because no one rewards or respects destruction.

What has marching peacefully got us. White people stormed a government built with long guns push police and the next week they got what they wanted .

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ScazarMeltex
05/27/20 10:55:57 AM
#113:


Kami_no_Kami posted...
The American Revolution is a false equivalency and even if it wasnt, it was a war.

Do you want to start a war with the American government?

Do you think that rioting is equivalent to war?

Do you think that rioting will make people agree with your point of view?

If you answer yes to any of these questions, you are an idiot. All that rioting will do is make our side look like a bunch of thugs who arent worth listening to. Just because violence feels good in the short term, it does not mean that its any kind of path toward long term progress.

Rioting for a cause is like a a child trying to get his parents to buy him a toy by throwing a tantrum and kicking over tables. He has zero chance of success and almost 100% chance of making matters worse for himself because no one rewards or respects destruction.
So we should just allow the police to continue to murder people whenever they feel like it? People tried peacefully to get the cop off the guy. They asked nicely. The cop murdered him anyway. You cannot use a system controlled and enforced by people like the murderer to bring the murderer to justice. This sort of shit is happening almost daily at this point, all over the country.

You want a better analog than the American revolution, fine, the labor movement during the gilded age. Nothing short of the violence that happened during it would have brought about the reforms that were needed. People brought violence and got the change that was needed. They fought and they died, labor activists were murdered in their homes, but they got the changes they were fighting for.

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g980
05/27/20 10:59:58 AM
#114:


cjsdowg posted...
What has marching peacefully got us. White people stormed a government built with long guns push police and the next week they got what they wanted .

And it sucks that that happened. Why do you want to do the same shitty things that those people did? Be better.

There absolutely should be protests if this pos cop doesnt get a murder conviction. But no one should be advocating for more violence.

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2Pacavelli
05/27/20 11:05:18 AM
#115:


Cop needs to be put under a citizens arrest. They already have his address.

Protests are cool but These protests are kinda chaotic. They need to focus on the offender and arrest the officer for murder, if the government doesn't want to do their job

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ScazarMeltex
05/27/20 11:05:37 AM
#116:


g980 posted...
And it sucks that that happened. Why do you want to do the same shitty things that those people did? Be better.

There absolutely should be protests if this pos cop doesnt get a murder conviction. But no one should be advocating for more violence.
We are past the point of marching. The only language these people speak is violence.

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g980
05/27/20 11:10:11 AM
#117:


ScazarMeltex posted...
We are past the point of marching. The only language these people speak is violence.

That isnt remotely true.

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QueenCarly
05/27/20 11:10:16 AM
#118:


g980 posted...
And it sucks that that happened. Why do you want to do the same shitty things that those people did? Be better.

There absolutely should be protests if this pos cop doesnt get a murder conviction. But no one should be advocating for more violence.

Are you fucking kidding me? There is absolutely no equivalency between the two.

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ChadMansplainer
05/27/20 11:11:48 AM
#119:


ScazarMeltex posted...
We are past the point of marching. The only language these people speak is violence.
this is the logic of an insane person.

Are you serious?
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iPhone_7
05/27/20 11:12:01 AM
#120:


I agree. Hey Minnesotans, walk up & into the police department & officers home, arrest the murderer & his accomplices.

Whats the worse that can happen, the police are already murdering you one by one. Stand up for yourselves. Be the change you want to see in the world. Hold the murderers accountable. Form a group and move in, right now this very moment. Arrest them.

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g980
05/27/20 11:12:03 AM
#121:


QueenCarly posted...
Are you fucking kidding me? There is absolutely no equivalency between the two.

The post i was replying to was the one that drew the equivalency

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BatmanWTtP
05/27/20 11:18:15 AM
#122:


Mods need to ban Houston, the fact that his racism gets a pass is disgusting

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Secretly
05/27/20 11:20:56 AM
#123:


BatmanWTtP posted...
Mods need to ban Houston, the fact that his racism gets a pass is disgusting
Yep, at least they warned him when he defended the racist hicks who murdered the black jogger in Georgia
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Houston
05/27/20 11:22:08 AM
#124:


BatmanWTtP posted...
Mods need to ban Houston, the fact that his racism gets a pass is disgusting

What have I done that is racist? There's nothing wrong with asking why CNN isn't covering protests or questioning their social distancing in a topic specifically about the protests.

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The_Bitcoin
05/27/20 11:24:00 AM
#125:


DevsBro posted...
WTF is this crap

Dude not even resisting, they're yelling get in the car at him while they're holding him down, WTDF.

The very best I can come up with is he had been resisting, and they're saying "why didn't you just get in the car" and all I can hear is the last bit but even if, the hell are they doing just sitting there on this guy's neck for no reason?

theyre speaking for their body cams. They would make it look as if the guy was resisting and trying to not get into the car.

but it didnt work because others people filmed the whole thing

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gatorsPENSbucs
05/27/20 11:24:16 AM
#126:


ScazarMeltex posted...
People tried peacefully to get the cop off the guy. They asked nicely.

They should have been on the phone calling other police stations and news stations. Im sure you guys will spin that however you want, but there was the guy recording thankfully and then the lady should have been on her phone calling literally everyone. If the girl calls 911 and says theres a man on the ground not breathing, an ambulance is on its way before the dispatcher even says another word. Its a hindsight thought but I just hate seeing people standing around doing nothing in these situations. You had the guy doing the right thing recording though so at least theres that.

The_Bitcoin posted...
theyre speaking for their body cams.
Theres longer videos out with more people in the background talking.

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ScazarMeltex
05/27/20 11:28:12 AM
#127:


ChadMansplainer posted...
this is the logic of an insane person.

Are you serious?
Look dude, how many people are you ok with the police murdering?
Do you believe that the labor activists who fought and died in the labor movement were in the wrong? Do you believe they could have achieved anything through peaceful means?
Do you understand that white men with guns were allowed to storm a state capitol building with zero consequences while these people who are understandably upset are being met with teargas and rubber bullets? That during the Bundy cattle standoff hundreds of white militia men were allowed to point guns at federal law enforcement and the marshals backed down and there were no consequences for any of them? That a lot of the same people were at Malhauer, and other than the one guy dumb enough to pull a gun during the takedown of the leadership they were also allowed to walk away with no consequences?

You have to realize that there is a huge difference in this country of how white people are treated by law enforcement vs the way everyone else is treated. As the amount of shit like this that happens continues to grow, the more you will see minority communities lashing out in this way because they are scared and feel like they have nothing to lose. And they are right to do so.

How long are you willing to wait before you are ok with doing something about this? How many people are you ok with the police murdering? How many cops are you ok with not facing any charges? Or being found innocent of what is blatantly murder? How many cops have to get off with manslaughter charges instead of murder because jurys won't convict cops of murder? Give me the numbers that will finally make you realize that no amount of peaceful protesting will accomplish anything.

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ScazarMeltex
05/27/20 11:30:52 AM
#128:


gatorsPENSbucs posted...
They should have been on the phone calling other police stations and news stations. Im sure you guys will spin that however you want, but there was the guy recording thankfully and then the lady should have been on her phone calling literally everyone. If the girl calls 911 and says theres a man on the ground not breathing, an ambulance is on its way before the dispatcher even says another word. Its a hindsight thought but I just hate seeing people standing around doing nothing in these situations. You had the guy doing the right thing recording though so at least theres that.
Any action taken by anyone that would have saved his life (IE physically removing the cop) would have ended with that person getting their ass kicked and a felony assault on an officer charge. All of the other things you suggested still end with that man dead.

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gatorsPENSbucs
05/27/20 11:33:45 AM
#129:


No, no, no, I never said anything about physical. The girl standing there could have been on her phone calling.

Its all hindsight and just I think we all want this person still alive so its tough.

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thronedfire2
05/27/20 11:34:53 AM
#130:


wtf do you think calling other police stations would do? they're not gonna come into a different jurisdiction and arrest cops who are working

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CanuckCowboy
05/27/20 11:37:39 AM
#131:


thronedfire2 posted...
wtf do you think calling other police stations would do? they're not gonna come into a different jurisdiction and arrest cops who are working

Yeah i cant see that call going well. You call the cops on the cops they arent gonna take it seriously anyways.

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Questionmarktarius
05/27/20 11:48:08 AM
#132:


ScazarMeltex posted...
Any action taken by anyone that would have saved his life (IE physically removing the cop) would have ended with that person getting their ass kicked and a felony assault on an officer charge. All of the other things you suggested still end with that man dead.
An EMT getting beaten up and arrested would have been a shitstorm.
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butthole666
05/27/20 11:50:22 AM
#133:


ScazarMeltex posted...
So we should just allow the police to continue to murder people whenever they feel like it? People tried peacefully to get the cop off the guy. They asked nicely. The cop murdered him anyway. You cannot use a system controlled and enforced by people like the murderer to bring the murderer to justice. This sort of shit is happening almost daily at this point, all over the country.

You want a better analog than the American revolution, fine, the labor movement during the gilded age. Nothing short of the violence that happened during it would have brought about the reforms that were needed. People brought violence and got the change that was needed. They fought and they died, labor activists were murdered in their homes, but they got the changes they were fighting for.
Good post. We need to see more uprising around the country if we truly want change. This goes beyond a single cop, our whole system is broken and rotten to the core.

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gatorsPENSbucs
05/27/20 11:53:39 AM
#134:


Questionmarktarius posted...
An EMT getting beaten up and arrested would have been a shitstorm.
Thank you for seeing what I meant.

CanuckCowboy posted...
Yeah i cant see that call going well. You call the cops on the cops they arent gonna take it seriously anyways.

911, whats the emergency
Theres a man on the road not breathing, please send help
Okay, an ambulance is on their way. Whats going on
I dont know, theres a man on the ground saying he cant breathe and needs help
Okay the ambulance should be there any second.....

and then

Questionmarktarius posted...
An EMT getting beaten up and arrested would have been a shitstorm.


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butthole666
05/27/20 11:56:33 AM
#135:


and enormous lol @ the ~enlightened centrists~ itt

omg we stan ineffectual methods of achieving incremental and meaningless change solely as a means to placate the oppressed rather than actually fix the problem !!!

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berlyman101
05/27/20 11:58:07 AM
#136:


gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Thank you for seeing what I meant.

911, whats the emergency
Theres a man on the road not breathing, please send help
Okay, an ambulance is on their way. Whats going on
I dont know, theres a man on the ground saying he cant breathe and needs help
Okay the ambulance should be there any second.....

and then

they wouldn't have gotten there in time. the guy had a death sentence when the cop decided not to lift his knee and only physical force could have possibly saved him.

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2Pacavelli
05/27/20 11:58:40 AM
#137:


Just a few weeks ago police in Tennessee killed a female EMT worker after a no knock raid on the wrong home. They got off Scott free and I think they're still on the force

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CADE FOSTER
05/27/20 12:00:56 PM
#138:


they need to be charged with murder 3 cops could have pulled that guy off his neck but they did nothing murder for the cop that killed him and accessory to murder for the 3 that did nothing
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Questionmarktarius
05/27/20 12:01:02 PM
#139:


gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Thank you for seeing what I meant.
It's gonna happen eventually.
An EMT or paramedic is gonna go off on a cop for being an agressive idiot, then that EMT or paramedic is going to get gang-tackled and probably choked out.

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ScazarMeltex
05/27/20 12:05:11 PM
#140:


Questionmarktarius posted...
An EMT getting beaten up and arrested would have been a shitstorm.
It's already a shitstorm. Also, the guy would still be dead. Nothing short of direct physical intervention in the short of window of time that was available would have saved that man's life, everything else is just bad PR, which they already have. That same direct physical intervention would have resulted in severe physical and legal complications for whoever took it. The chief issue of import here is that the police, in a given moment, can do whatever they want and however they want to do it, even when blatantly in the wrong and no one can stop them without risking their own health and well being even when the action taken by the police is blatantly wrong or in this case murderous. That should frighten people.

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BatmanWTtP
05/27/20 12:06:14 PM
#141:


gatorsPENSbucs posted...
911, whats the emergency
Theres a man on the road not breathing, please send help
Okay, an ambulance is on their way. Whats going on
I dont know, theres a man on the ground saying he cant breathe and needs help
Okay the ambulance should be there any second.....

and then
And then the cops already on the scene would have flagged it down

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TheOtherMike
05/27/20 12:07:01 PM
#142:


gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Thank you for seeing what I meant.

911, whats the emergency
Theres a man on the road not breathing, please send help
Okay, an ambulance is on their way. Whats going on
I dont know, theres a man on the ground saying he cant breathe and needs help
Okay the ambulance should be there any second.....

and then

Brain damage occurs within minutes of loss of blood flow to the brain. There was no time to call an ambulance. And if someone did try to call 911, they immediately become a target for these "officers."

How about, instead of suggesting we rely on shocked onlookers to call 911 on police brutalizing a subdued suspect, you suggest we do something on a national level to stop police brutalizing subdued suspects. Perhaps some legal reforms are in order from the top down.
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Questionmarktarius
05/27/20 12:09:46 PM
#143:


TheOtherMike posted...
you suggest we do something on a national level to stop police brutalizing subdued suspects
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butthole666
05/27/20 12:13:11 PM
#144:


I would also like to remind the enlightened posters ITT that people have been trying peaceful protests for nearly a decade at this point, and at every turn it has only directly made things worse. Peacefully protesting has made the pigs feel victimized for being held accountable and seeing their absolute power encroached upon, it has made them more violent and dangerous, it has sparked entire counter movements that have only further emboldened police and racists. Hell, the fucking current regime in the White House is, in part, a response to black people rallying behind a slogan and racists getting scared.

It does not work.

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butthole666
05/27/20 12:14:14 PM
#145:


Questionmarktarius posted...
A substantial "housecleaning" of police departments is about as likely as a substantial "housecleaning" of Catholic priests.
Which is why you do not rely on the broken system to fix itself, and instead tear it down and create a new one.

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ultimate reaver
05/27/20 12:17:13 PM
#147:


thronedfire2 posted...
wtf do you think calling other police stations would do? they're not gonna come into a different jurisdiction and arrest cops who are working

hes full of shit, pay no mind

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Anticyclonic
05/27/20 12:28:56 PM
#148:


There comes a point where use of force against a law enforcement officer is morally the thing to do and should be legally allowed. Such as if they are actively murdering someone

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UnfairRepresent
05/27/20 1:57:53 PM
#149:


Anticyclonic posted...
There comes a point where use of force against a law enforcement officer is morally the thing to do and should be legally allowed. Such as if they are actively murdering someone

If they tried they would be tazed or shot
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ScazarMeltex
05/27/20 2:15:12 PM
#150:


UnfairRepresent posted...
If they tried they would be tazed or shot
I agree, that doesn't change the fact that it's the moral and ethical thing to do. That being said, most people aren't willing to take beating and a felony charge to save the life of someone they don't know.

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Bass_X0
05/27/20 2:23:59 PM
#151:


I hate seeing the police kill innocent black men.
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Gafemage
05/27/20 2:32:03 PM
#152:


2Pacavelli posted...


Saw this on social media.

Knew from the get-go this was fake, but this one seems pretty legit (again still could be a shop/doppelganger):

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2Pacavelli
05/27/20 2:35:08 PM
#153:


I hate fakes, they muddy the waters. Just from what he did though you could tell he's a terrible person

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