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Zeus
07/18/20 6:19:17 PM
#401:


Was watching the beginning of the Disaster Artist when I came to a startling realization: I'm beginning to dislike Kristen Bell. I'm not sure when it started (possibly those car commercials?) or why I'm gradually starting to dislike her (it could be an over-exposure thing, or it might relate to me souring on the Good Place -- which, by extension -- sours me on Kristen Bell)

Any actors/actresses you just went from liking to disliking without any particular reason?

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The Wave Master
07/19/20 5:02:51 PM
#402:


My wife hates Tom Cruise because of the evil cult of Scientology thing. She refuses to watch any of the 6 or 7 Mission Impossible films. Same thing with Elizabeth Moss too, evil cult of Scientology, so Handmaids Tale is out.

Personally, I take each film or television show performance individually. I try not to mix the personal lives of the performers with their fictional counterparts. It's harder than it looks because I like old episodes of The Cosby Show, but Bill Cosby is just a rapist P.O.S. and I just end up turning the television in defeat.

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Zeus
07/19/20 5:25:10 PM
#403:


But the Cosby thing gives you a very good reason to stop liking Cosby >_> I'm talking more for no particular reason.

Granted, I generally don't react that viscerally to actors' personal lives, etc. Most of the actors I already disliked often turn out to be kinda shitty (or highly disagreeable) people or I'm still cool with their portrayals even after learning about shitty things they've done. There are some actresses who turned out to be far-left nutjobs who I still like, as well.

The Wave Master posted...
My wife hates Tom Cruise because of the evil cult of Scientology thing. She refuses to watch any of the 6 or 7 Mission Impossible films. Same thing with Elizabeth Moss too, evil cult of Scientology, so Handmaids Tale is out.


I hate John Cusack (because he's a smug, self-righteous asshole), but I still watched -- and hated -- 1408. I find it hard to not watch something I might be interested in just because I hate somebody in it. I think I disliked Ryan Reynolds at the time GL came out, but I watched that anyway (and it was kinda okay, even though Reynolds's portrayal of Hal was what I hated most about the film). I also disliked Reynolds when Deadpool came out, but I was more okay with him afterward. In general, Reynolds is like a young Nick Cage, he's a campy guy with wildly varying performances. (And, in light of those facts, casting him as Detective Pikachu was pretty dead-on.)

And a Handmaid's Tale is feminist propaganda, so you're probably better off avoiding it >_>

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ParanoidObsessive
07/19/20 7:57:51 PM
#404:


Zeus posted...
But the Cosby thing gives you a very good reason to stop liking Cosby >_> I'm talking more for no particular reason.

This was my problem. I was going to answer your question last night, but then I realized that I have justification for nearly every single case where I dislike someone. It might not be a justification that other people agree with, and it may be subject to change over time, but I can almost always explain why I dislike someone.

I honestly can't think of a single person in my entire life where I've just gone "Man, I don't like that person, but I'm not sure why". Definitely not in a scenario where I actually liked them to begin with, and then I just spontaneously woke up one day and decided I didn't like them anymore.

I can't even use the rationale that I think a lot of people might fall back on and go "Well, I liked [insert shitty teen-humor/music individual here] when I was a teenager, but then I grew up and realized they were kind of stupid", because I generally hated most things teenagers like when I was a teenager. In some ways, it's part of why I've never really had that "I'm ashamed of the things I liked as a teenager" phase so many people seem to go through, because I wasn't much of a teenager even when I WAS a teenager. I've basically been a curmudgeonly old man since I was 12.



Zeus posted...
I hate John Cusack (because he's a smug, self-righteous asshole), but I still watched -- and hated -- 1408.

But did you watch Hot Tub Time Machine?

I have no strong feelings about John Cusack one way or another (though I do tend to think he does a lot of pretentious movies I dislike because of the movie more than the actor), but I loved Hot Tub Time Machine. Not really because of his performance (he was basically the Straight Man, and the Straight Man is almost never the reason why you like any given film/show/performance, even if the Straight Man is often necessary to cast the other characters into better relief), but he was inoffensive enough that he didn't detract from it for me.



The Wave Master posted...
It's harder than it looks because I like old episodes of The Cosby Show, but Bill Cosby is just a rapist P.O.S. and I just end up turning the television in defeat.

I always find it interesting comparing older wrestling fans who used to be huge Chris Benoit fans when he was alive who absolutely cannot stand to see anything with him in it (even the old video games) to this day, as opposed to the people who are adamant about being able to separate the performer from the performance and still appreciate his work as a wrestler even if they find his actions as a person reprehensible. Ranging all the way from people who can't even watch old PPVs if he was on them (even matches he's not in), to people who argue he should still be in the Hall of Fame for his work, because his contributions to/impact on the industry were significant even if his personal life was a horror show.

Though Benoit's an interesting case study even for other reasons. Some people absolutely loathe him for being a monster, some people just sort of feel a bit creeped out by watching his old work now because they know what he did (but don't feel a visceral negative reaction towards him because they never really HAD a strong emotional or empathetic connection to his wife and kid, so the whole tragedy is more abstract and intellectualized for them), and some people don't seem overly bothered by him at all. And then there are the people who actually kind of feel sorry for him, or see him as a victim himself in a lot of ways, because of how messed up his mental state was at that point due to steroids, severe brain damage/CTE (from years of concussions), and the death of Eddie Guerrero apparently leaving him an emotional wreck (which raises the question of, if he'd ever gotten help for any of those things at any point, would he and his family still be alive today?).

I've never really had a huge problem separating performers from the performance (so, for instance, I can still watch The Usual Suspects in spite of the fact that the director and one of the main actors have both been accused of serial molestation of younger men/boys), but there's always an underlying feeling of awareness that "this person probably did terrible things", which can make me feel a bit creepy or uneasy (usually depending on exactly what they were accused/convicted of), and it can feel extremely awkward if the thing you're watching relates to the thing they were accused of (like, say, watching someone accused of being a rapist engaging in a rape scene, someone accused of being a murderer killing someone in a scene, etc). So the degree of creep factor probably could influence how much I like something overall. But I almost have the visceral sort of "OH MY GOD TURN THIS OFF" sort of reaction to anything based on what the people in it have done.

I feel like, if I knee-jerk stopped liking things if the people involved in the creation of those things turn out to be terrible people, I'd never be able to like anything ever again. Because there are a LOT of terrible people in the world, and have been all throughout history. Humans are basically walking sacks of feces.
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Zeus
07/19/20 9:38:08 PM
#405:


Getting close to the next topic. Are we keeping on the COVID theme? If so, we could use
  • The Continued (Natural) Self-Quarantining of the Geeks
  • The Geeks Don't Go to Camp
  • 28 Geeks Later


Or we could go with Twilight of the Geeks, if it hasn't been used. In general, I don't think we'll see many new things around the corner.

ParanoidObsessive posted...
But did you watch Hot Tub Time Machine?

Didn't interest me.

ParanoidObsessive posted...
Not really because of his performance (he was basically the Straight Man, and the Straight Man is almost never the reason why you like any given film/show/performance, even if the Straight Man is often necessary to cast the other characters into better relief),

idk, I'll watch a movie knowing a great Straight Man is in it, given that their reactions can make almost any joke funny.

ParanoidObsessive posted...
I always find it interesting comparing older wrestling fans who used to be huge Chris Benoit fans when he was alive who absolutely cannot stand to see anything with him in it (even the old video games) to this day, as opposed to the people who are adamant about being able to separate the performer from the performance and still appreciate his work as a wrestler even if they find his actions as a person reprehensible. Ranging all the way from people who can't even watch old PPVs if he was on them (even matches he's not in), to people who argue he should still be in the Hall of Fame for his work, because his contributions to/impact on the industry were significant even if his personal life was a horror show.

That one was easy, since I never liked him before. In fact, it seems like it's almost always the ones I don't like that turn out to be monsters (whereas the ones I do like merely turn out to be assholes or creeps). Maybe I have a super-power. Do you think it's too late for me to join a school for gifted youngsters so I can hone my ability?

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ParanoidObsessive
07/20/20 6:13:28 PM
#406:


Zeus posted...
Getting close to the next topic. Are we keeping on the COVID theme? If so, we could use
* The Continued (Natural) Self-Quarantining of the Geeks
* The Geeks Don't Go to Camp
* 28 Geeks Later

Or we could go with Twilight of the Geeks, if it hasn't been used. In general, I don't think we'll see many new things around the corner.

Geekerdammerung

(Or, to go for an even geekier combo reference, Twilight of the Planet of the Geeks)

I actually like 28 Geeks later, though. Not only is it thematically appropriate, it's a good pun. The timescale isn't entirely accurate (it should be more like 16 Geeks Later, if we count from when shutdowns started in the US, or closer to 33 Geeks Later if we count from the end of November), but it kind of averages out well enough.



Zeus posted...
That one was easy, since I never liked him before. In fact, it seems like it's almost always the ones I don't like that turn out to be monsters (whereas the ones I do like merely turn out to be assholes or creeps). Maybe I have a super-power. Do you think it's too late for me to join a school for gifted youngsters so I can hone my ability?

Considering how Marvel's retconned their characters over the last decade or two, you'd never be able to join any School for Gifted Youngsters with that power, because it would start pinging the moment you met any of the Headmasters or teachers.

As for Benoit, I also sort of fall into the "I never really cared all that much about him" in the past, because I always went more for personality than workrate, and Benoit only really had one of those things. But at the same time, I don't recoil in horror every time I see him show up in an old wrestling video game or PPV or similar sort of deal.

I wouldn't go actively seeking any of his matches out, but on the other hand, I wouldn't be doing that regardless.
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The Wave Master
07/21/20 8:40:38 PM
#407:


We could do something with the topic being centered around the continuation of the first wave of the virus, or a second impending lockdown.

Either way, you Geeks better come up with something, or agree on a title before I'm forced to choose against my will, at sword point.

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wolfy42
07/21/20 8:47:02 PM
#408:


Zeus posted...
Or we could go with Twilight of the Geeks


Do you want geeks that sparkle in the sunlight, cause that's how you get geeks that sparkle in the sunlight.

How about:

Have geek will not travel.

Geeks in masks.

Geeks at home.

A geek by any other name (shrug just like it).

The day after geeks.

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Metalsonic66
07/21/20 9:14:15 PM
#409:


Flavor of the Geek

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Zeus
07/21/20 9:38:13 PM
#410:


The Wave Master posted...
We could do something with the topic being centered around the continuation of the first wave of the virus, or a second impending lockdown.

Hence 28 Geeks Later, which is a reference to 28 Weeks Later, which is a sequel to 28 Days Later. Keep in mind that if zombies were made to wear face masks, they'd be less likely to spread their disease.

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wolfy42
07/21/20 10:16:27 PM
#411:


Zeus posted...
Hence 28 Geeks Later, which is a reference to 28 Weeks Later, which is a sequel to 28 Days Later. Keep in mind that if zombies were made to wear face masks, they'd be less likely to spread their disease.


I mean, if zombies wore face masks would they even be a danger anymore, it's like that one show/comic/whatever it was where the dude put a muzzle (of fake teeth I guess) on his zombie girl friend so she couldn't bite him.

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Revelation34
07/21/20 11:12:06 PM
#412:


wolfy42 posted...


I mean, if zombies wore face masks would they even be a danger anymore, it's like that one show/comic/whatever it was where the dude put a muzzle (of fake teeth I guess) on his zombie girl friend so she couldn't bite him.


I need to know the name of whatever it is you mentioned.
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Zeus
07/22/20 12:29:35 AM
#413:


Revelation34 posted...
I need to know the name of whatever it is you mentioned.

I think there have been a few things like that. I also remember this one comic/manga where zombies with either masks or teeth removed were being used in the workplace and these two dudes decide to rape a female zombie, figuring that the disease can't spread like a STD.... but it does and they end up in that same zombie-slave workforce.

Unrelated, but it brings to mind a line from Stroker and Hoop where a company man mentions having, "a living wage for our living workers," and Hoop muses, "Hm, what other kind of workers are there?"... only to learn they're using zombies for slave labor. That show was canceled long before its time >_> #NinjasDontHaveDayJobs

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Revelation34
07/22/20 12:33:15 AM
#414:


Zeus posted...


I think there have been a few things like that. I also remember this one comic/manga where zombies with either masks or teeth removed were being used in the workplace and these two dudes decide to rape a female zombie, figuring that the disease can't spread like a STD.... but it does and they end up in that same zombie-slave workforce.

Unrelated, but it brings to mind a line from Stroker and Hoop where a company man mentions having, "a living wage for our living workers," and Hoop muses, "Hm, what other kind of workers are there?"... only to learn they're using zombies for slave labor. That show was canceled long before its time >_> #NinjasDontHaveDayJobs


Can you really rape a zombie? What's the name of that one? Also yeah that show was amazing.
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wolfy42
07/22/20 12:38:33 AM
#415:


I'm trying to find it, doing searches on google but no luck so far. The guy initially found the girl cute and put tooth guards on her, so she'd try to bite him but couldn't and would follwo him around, later he wakes up and it was a dream, and she's human but he becomes a zombie or something. I am still trying to find it.

It was Asian though.

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wolfy42
07/22/20 12:42:12 AM
#416:


Found it!!

Lol you can find anything with google.

This is random

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdbrtsP020E

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Zeus
07/22/20 3:47:40 AM
#417:


Revelation34 posted...
Can you really rape a zombie?

Well, from a technical standpoint, they're incapable of consent so any sexual activity you initiate would be rape. The counter-argument would be the claim that they're not alive, but the nature of zombies can vary greatly depending on the continuity so not all of them seem strictly dead/undead.

Within the context of the comic or manga, they forcibly violated the zombie. On those grounds alone, I'd consider it rape.

Revelation34 posted...
What's the name of that one?

Before you get your hopes up, I don't think it depicted the act in progress. I think it was in a relatively decent multi-zombie story manga/comic anthology which also involved a couple arguing whether fast zombies or slow zombies were scarier where she ends up infected and he thinks she's just dead because she moves so slowly -- it takes like 8 hours for her to turn over and get close to him despite the fact they were sleeping next to each other -- and then he winds up turning into a turbo zombie.

Regardless, I think it was something I read on Manga Rock so I have no way of going back to get the name.

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ParanoidObsessive
07/22/20 5:50:34 AM
#418:


Zeus posted...
I think there have been a few things like that.

The first thing that came to mind for me was Deadgirl.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_P8qEkgI_w
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Zeus
07/22/20 2:10:04 PM
#419:


That one briefly came to mind, but iirc nobody got infected from sleeping with her... although I'd forgotten that one guy caught the virus from getting his snake bitten.

I realize other than the premise, I don't remember that much about the movie after all (well, until reading the synopsis/spoilers on wikipedia).

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wolfy42
07/22/20 3:42:21 PM
#420:


Zeus posted...
That one briefly came to mind, but iirc nobody got infected from sleeping with her... although I'd forgotten that one guy caught the virus from getting his snake bitten.

I realize other than the premise, I don't remember that much about the movie after all (well, until reading the synopsis/spoilers on wikipedia).


I mean after having that done, i'm pretty sure he WANTED to become a zombie/die lol.

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The Wave Master
07/22/20 10:25:53 PM
#421:


Has anyone here actually played Ghost of Tshushima? I'm going to wait for a price drop before a purchase, but I did want a second hand opinion from you Geeks.

Tomorrow is the Xbox first party games showcase, and I'm not excited because it's Microsoft, and I'm not planning on purchasing Halo: Infinite, but for those Sex Box fans I am hoping that there are some good surprises and games that are interesting to me. Competition is good for most businesses.

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Metalsonic66
07/22/20 10:28:52 PM
#422:


I bought VII remake and TLoU 2 at full price so I'm gonna hold off on Ghosts of Sushi for now. Sucker Punch is usually quality though.

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Revelation34
07/22/20 10:30:29 PM
#423:


Zeus posted...


Well, from a technical standpoint, they're incapable of consent so any sexual activity you initiate would be rape. The counter-argument would be the claim that they're not alive, but the nature of zombies can vary greatly depending on the continuity so not all of them seem strictly dead/undead.

Within the context of the comic or manga, they forcibly violated the zombie. On those grounds alone, I'd consider it rape.

Before you get your hopes up, I don't think it depicted the act in progress. I think it was in a relatively decent multi-zombie story manga/comic anthology which also involved a couple arguing whether fast zombies or slow zombies were scarier where she ends up infected and he thinks she's just dead because she moves so slowly -- it takes like 8 hours for her to turn over and get close to him despite the fact they were sleeping next to each other -- and then he winds up turning into a turbo zombie.

Regardless, I think it was something I read on Manga Rock so I have no way of going back to get the name.


I don't have fetishes THAT weird.
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ParanoidObsessive
07/23/20 12:36:09 AM
#424:


The Wave Master posted...
Has anyone here actually played Ghost of Tshushima? I'm going to wait for a price drop before a purchase, but I did want a second hand opinion from you Geeks.

I still have no real idea what the hell it's about.

At this point I'm probably waiting until Yahtzee does the most caustic review of the game possible so he can explain to me what it actually is, and then if it doesn't sound too terrible I might make more of an effort to actually look into it myself. Or I can proceed to ignore it forever if it turns out to be something I don't give a damn about.

I've pretty much stopped caring about every majorly overhyped game at this point, because almost none of them ever appeal to me. What the majority of gamers seem to want out of games and what I want out of games continues to be an ever-widening chasm.

Though I did just put in an order to Amazon and I bought Journey to the Savage Planet for the PS4 on a whim, so that may be my one concession to "modern" gaming for 2020. Depending on whether Bloodlines 2 and Cyberpunk 2077 even come out, or if they get delayed another year or two because of viral armageddon.



The Wave Master posted...
Tomorrow is the Xbox first party games showcase, and I'm not excited because it's Microsoft, and I'm not planning on purchasing Halo: Infinite

343 ran that franchise so hard into the ground it can currently see China.

I always find it amazing that I can go from absolutely loving a franchise to being absolutely apathetic about it. Whether it's going from buying every Halo game (and playing the shit out of them) and all of the tie-in novels to not giving a single shit about Infinite, or Bungie going from the company that made one of my favorite franchises of the 2000s to making Destiny (ugh), or BioWare going from being one of my favorite developers ever to a developer I kind of wish would just die quietly and get it over with, or even just going from being obsessed with Doctor Who for more than a quarter century to just wishing it would end and never, ever come back now. It's like the reverse of Romeo and Juliet, where my greatest hates spring from my greatest loves.

Though I should probably stop finding it so surprising considering how often it's been happening lately. It's starting to feel like the universe is determined to take everything I've ever loved and transform it into something utterly terrible, just to spite me.
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WhiskeyDisk
07/23/20 12:39:14 AM
#425:


ParanoidObsessive posted...
It's starting to feel like the universe is determined to take everything I've ever loved and transform it into something utterly terrible, just to spite me.


Amen.

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ParanoidObsessive
07/23/20 12:46:49 AM
#426:


I'm still waiting for the inevitable Last Dragon and Big Trouble in Little China remakes. I may have to kill someone when those happen.

Either that, or I have to figure out the means by which a man can harpoon God, and take that motherfucker down.
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Metalsonic66
07/23/20 12:50:47 AM
#427:


ParanoidObsessive posted...
I still have no real idea what the hell it's about.
Open world samurai action

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The Wave Master
07/23/20 1:13:00 AM
#428:


P.O. what kinds of games interest you, and what are you looking for in a game, and what do you actually hate? Because it seems like it's all very random what you love or hate in a particular game.

Also, I'm with you on taking down the S.O.B. that tries to remake "The Last Dragon." That film is perfect the way it is, and is a stellar example of my 80's childhood, even more than something like The Goonies. (Which Scarlet doesn't like at all. She also hates E T.)

I think a major reason I love The Last Dragon, other than it's awesome, is that my father looks just like Sho Nuff. He had the Jerry curl dripping with activator, the terrible off the rack clothes, and a gang with him at all times when I was growing up. (By gang I mean a bunch of guys that sold drugs for him.)

That movie should not be touched.

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ParanoidObsessive
07/23/20 1:51:25 AM
#429:


Metalsonic66 posted...
Open world samurai action

That tells me what it IS, but literally nothing concerning what it's about.

Unless you're suggesting that it isn't actually about anything. In which case I just ceased to care about it from now until the very end of time.



The Wave Master posted...
P.O. what kinds of games interest you, and what are you looking for in a game, and what do you actually hate? Because it seems like it's all very random what you love or hate in a particular game.

Not really, it's pretty easy to know what I'm into. And I've pointed it out constantly in various topics.

Basically, I like story/character-heavy games. When I'm playing RPGs, I prefer elaborate dialogue trees and branching narrative and don't really give much of a damn about things like optimal builds or (in fact, considering I play most RPGs on the lowest "narrative" difficulty setting available, the mechanical side of things usually barely impacts my awareness of gameplay at all as I just hack-and-slash my way directly through to the next story bit as quickly and easily as possible). I really like being able to create a character in the beginning - not just appearance, but some degree of personality/backstory (this is why I love Fallout: New Vegas so much while Fallout 3 and 4 leave me much colder). If a game has voiced dialogue, I like the ability to choose from at least a couple voice sets (or if I can't, I at least like the VA in question to not be total ass) - Saints Row was great for this (though a bit annoying because the female voice sets weren't entirely consistent across games).

I tend to like fantasy best, but I can adjust to fantasy-flavored sci-fi (like Mass Effect) or comic book action (like Batman or Spider-Man). I'm not really a fan of "modern" games (and even less so when they're presented in a bit of a pretentious "indie" style, a la stuff like Life is Strange), but other genres I can generally take or leave depending on how good the story is.

I hate frustration gaming (which is why Dark Souls and all the games influenced by it can fuck right off forever). I also tend to dislike platforming-style games (and have ever since they mostly moved out of 2D stuff like Super Mario World and into 3D). I'm mostly cold on fighting games these days, and online multiplayer is pretty much a dead issue for me (so things like online competitive FPSes or MMORPGs don't really interest me). I like FPSes (it might actually be my main favored genre in terms of gameplay/combat), but I'm less about FPS as a primary selling point (like in a Battle Royale-style game) and more in favor of it as a more fluid, natural way to play open-world sandbox-y exploration/narrative games (and I tend to like games that let you snap between first-person and third-person whenever you want, because I occasionally like going third-person to look at how awesome I am and while traveling from place-to-place, but dropping into first-person for combat and searching rooms for loot).

I tend to like "arcade-y" games more than "simulation" games - the more complicated game controls get, the less likely I am to care about a game (which is a shame, because I'd kind of like to play space exploration/combat games like Elite:Dangerous or EVE Online, but they tend to go way more sim-y when what I actually want is a new generation version of Wing Commander or the fighter level in Halo: Reach). That's part of what's kept me from playing RDR2 in spite of it being story-heavy - a lot of the fiddly simulation bullshit is more deterrent than appealing to me (RDR2's other major flaw for me being the fact that it is dead-set on telling the story IT wants to tell, with me having very little say in anything at all, while pretending that character decisions matter... and it's a story I'm not particularly interested in).

Once you keep that sort of thing in mind, you can get a pretty good feel for whether or not I'm going to enjoy any given game. Just see how many things I like the game has, then sort of subtract out the things I dislike. The balance of everything will generally indicate if I'm going to slaver over a game (fantasy FPS with RPG elements that has robust character creation and backstory options with branching narrative!) or if I'm going to loathe a game (a Dark Souls-style Roguelike with almost no story focusing on complex combat mechanics and synergistic builds, interspersed with complicated platforming sections - bleh!).

The real question might be whether or not a given story interests me - I'm not going to love every story-heavy game simply because it IS story-heavy. The story it's telling needs to appeal to me as well.

I really loved Tales from the Borderlands and the Minecraft: Story Mode games from Telltale (the Batman game was okay but not exciting, and The Walking Dead did nothing for me because I'm not really into that setting or style of story). I've actually been thinking about playing through them again at some point (though right now I'm playing Fallout 4 for no good reason, after I finally finished/Platinum'd Spider-Man). I might play Horizon: Zero Dawn again at some point, because I enjoyed that as well (though I might wait until next gen and play leading in to the inevitable sequel).

I'm not entirely keen on the cyberpunk aspects of Cyberpunk (ironic, I know!), but everything else about the game seems right in my wheelhouse. The same holds true for Bloodlines, because it's that style of game set in the World of Darkness (which I have extremely fond memories of - I basically spent like 15 straight years playing various games in that setting). In each case there are reasons why I'm cautiously optimistic rather than WOMG SO HYPED!, but both are games there's a very good chance I'm going to love when they eventually come out.

The only game that really doesn't fit in all of that is Minecraft. As a game with no story, you'd think I'd be bored of it. But the creativity of it appeals to me, because it's less like playing a game, and more like having a box of infinite Legos, where you come up with new and interesting things to build (it's more "digital facilitator" than "game" to me).



The Wave Master posted...
(Which Scarlet doesn't like at all. She also hates E T.)

I loathe ET. I saw it in a movie theater as a kid and just couldn't relate to it or get into it at all. At no point since then have I ever really been able to get into it. Even things that sort of "feel" like ET tend to turn me off immediately.

The only other really popular movie that people love and see as kind of iconic that I dislike as much as ET is Forrest Gump. I hated that movie.
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Metalsonic66
07/23/20 1:53:21 AM
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ParanoidObsessive posted...
That tells me what it IS, but literally nothing concerning what it's about.
There have been a shit ton of previews talking about the basics of the story if that's what you want to know. I'm planning to go in blind in that regard though.

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Zeus
07/23/20 7:00:07 AM
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ParanoidObsessive posted...
I'm still waiting for the inevitable Last Dragon and Big Trouble in Little China remakes. I may have to kill someone when those happen.

What about a live-action Last Unicorn? >_>

ParanoidObsessive posted...
Unless you're suggesting that it isn't actually about anything. In which case I just ceased to care about it from now until the very end of time.

"It's a game about nothing."

ParanoidObsessive posted...
I really like being able to create a character in the beginning - not just appearance

tbh, that's guaranteed to get me interested.

ParanoidObsessive posted...
If a game has voiced dialogue, I like the ability to choose from at least a couple voice sets (or if I can't, I at least like the VA in question to not be total ass) - Saints Row was great for this (though a bit annoying because the female voice sets weren't entirely consistent across games).

Then there's kinda the sub-issue where SR1 only has a male character. Of course, there's also the general issue of the fact it was *only* ever on the 360. (Granted, I own a 360 so, in theory, that's not a gamebreaker... although the 360's tendency to break games is. Plus I just don't like the 360 very much.)

Speaking of, when I was watching cutscenes from SR2 (since I don't feel like getting my ps3 going), I glanced at some wikis and learned that Shaundi was VA'd by Eliza Dushku, which seemed pretty crazy considering she... oh wait, I guess her career *was* fading at that point. Also kinda random, but when double-checking that it was Dushku on the wikipedia page, I learned that NPH VA'd, of all people, Veteran Child. Kind of a small thing to do, considering that Veteran Child doesn't have that many scenes.

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07/23/20 10:09:33 AM
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Metalsonic66 posted...
There have been a shit ton of previews talking about the basics of the story if that's what you want to know. I'm planning to go in blind in that regard though.

I'm aware. I'm also aware that I could probably get a plot summary or the like from Wikipedia.

But my point is more that I have yet to see a single commercial for the game that tells you anything meaningful about it. And whenever people are all WOMGSOHYPE! over it they literally never describe anything about the game. Basically, I haven't been given a single reason to even remotely give a shit about the game to the point where I would feel the need to go actively looking for information about it. They've done precisely nothing to make me WANT to know what it's about, so I'm mainly just apathetic about it.

It almost feels like the entire marketing campaign has been little more than "Hey look, Weebs - you can be a samurai! Okay, go preorder now."

And while 20-year old me might have been "Okay, fucking sold", 43-year old me is more like "Yawn."



Zeus posted...
What about a live-action Last Unicorn? >_>

I never really got into Last Unicorn all that much. It should theoretically fall into my wheelhouse, but it never really appealed. It might be because young me assumed unicorns were for girls and thus it was worthless, or maybe it just ever-so-slightly predated my time so I couldn't get into the more emotional parts or style, or any number of other possible reasons. But because I never had that love for it as a kid, I also lacked the nostalgia for it so it didn't do much for me as an adult, either.

I loved the shit out of Lord of the Rings, though, and that was 4 years earlier (though I obviously didn't see it on TV until years later). And I loved stuff like Labyrinth and Princess Bride, so it's hard for me to really put my finger on it.

(Tangentially, though, I will say I didn't really appreciate Ladyhawk, Dragonslayer, or Legend at the time either, so maybe I just had a certain antipathy towards certain types of fantasy. It's hard to really parse out when I'm looking backwards from 30+ years later and trying to remember how I felt about stuff, and why.)



Zeus posted...
Then there's kinda the sub-issue where SR1 only has a male character.

To be fair, they actually kind of address that in-game. The explosion at the end of the game puts you in a coma, and you required reconstructive surgery to fix everything, which justifies why you might look different than you did in SR1. Which includes gender (which seems more fluid in the Saints Row universe at the best of times).

Like most things with the Saints Row games, the real answer is "Don't think about it too hard, this shit's mostly satire anyway." Rule of Funny and Rule of Cool trump any sane and rational backstory or (see also the magical plastic surgery you can have in SR3 and SR4, where you become a perfect copy of Cyrus... or can make yourself look like a giant grape person, or a dinosaur).

But SR2 basically winks at the whole idea that you can be radically different (even a different gender, accent, etc) from the version of yourself in SR1 with the occasional "You look different. Did you change your hair?" jokes. And SR4 gets even more meta with it when you're fighting the SR1 and SR2 player models as glitches that look nothing like you because they're the default versions (something you openly mention in-character, including when the SR2 co-op player shows up).

And really, once the game lets you play as a female, you can always sort of retcon it in your own head that you were always a woman, even in the first game. The flashbacks in SR4 sort of support that idea anyway.



Zeus posted...
Of course, there's also the general issue of the fact it was *only* ever on the 360. (Granted, I own a 360 so, in theory, that's not a gamebreaker... although the 360's tendency to break games is. Plus I just don't like the 360 very much.)

360 was easily my favorite console of all time when it was current, and even today makes a very good run for being #1 in my eyes (the PS4 is definitely superior in some ways, but there are still aspects of the 360 I prefer). It would have been nice to get a 360 with the processing power and game library of the PS4 this gen - I would have bought one without hesitation.

It's a shame Microsoft decided they wanted the Xbone to be hot liquid feces instead, so I had no choice but to give up on the Xbox this go around (and will be extremely wary and likely uninterested next time around as well). Nearing the end of this gen, I've never once regretted not having the Bone (Halo might have been able to sway me, if not for the fact that 343 shit the bed so hard and now the franchise is pretty much dead to me anyway).



Zeus posted...
Speaking of, when I was watching cutscenes from SR2 (since I don't feel like getting my ps3 going), I glanced at some wikis and learned that Shaundi was VA'd by Eliza Dushku, which seemed pretty crazy considering she... oh wait, I guess her career *was* fading at that point.

Weellll. If we're going to be honest, Eliza Dushku's career was ever all that (what's the opposite of "faded"? Bright?) in the first place.

But she was recording her lines for SR2 right between Tru Calling and Dollhouse, which is probably the period where she was the most relevant she ever was, even if most nerds today would argue that she peaked with Buffy and was never that good or significant again.



Zeus posted...
I learned that NPH VA'd, of all people, Veteran Child. Kind of a small thing to do, considering that Veteran Child doesn't have that many scenes.

Keep the time period in mind. Recording/development for SR2 almost certainly predated Dr. Horrible.

At that point in time, NPH wasn't really that big. Sure, he was on How I Met Your Mother (which went a very long way towards rehabilitating him) by that point, but before that most people just (barely) remembered him as that kid who was Doogie Howser once. Even in Starship Troopers (which was mostly ignored or hated at the time anyway), the general reaction was mostly "Hey, it's Doogie Howser!" It's why he was basically a joke in Harold & Kumar.

NPH didn't really become memetically popular until Dr. Horrible made him a nerd saint. At which point I'd definitely say he swung much higher than most of the rest of the people in the game.

In SR2's time frame, I'd easily say Eliza Dushku and even Keith David were much bigger gets than NPH was. I might even be willing to argue that Jay Mohr was still more significant than him at that point (though that was right before Jay Mohr took his own dive towards obscurity). Maybe even Michael Dorn (though he was more on the downslope himself by that point, and was mostly only geek-famous even when he was popular).

The real impressive thing was that NPH was willing to come BACK to voice lines for SR4 (though Eliza Dushku either wouldn't or wasn't even asked), after his personal stock had increased.
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I_Abibde
07/23/20 11:38:39 AM
#433:


A minor moment of geekery for me: I backed the Kickstarter for Amiga Power, a two-disc set of remixes from the titular computer (and the underground magazine of the same game), and my physical copy arrived yesterday. Feels good to jam to those tracks.

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The Wave Master
07/23/20 1:48:13 PM
#434:


Well, that Sex Box games show case was lackluster. There was some Halo, (Of Course) now Semi open world single player Halo, with a grappling hook, and Halo 2 combat to revive the old nostalgia train.

Then the rest wof the games were semi indie games that are all trying to be deep, meaningful, and esoteric.

A few of those games are fine. Not every game needs to be a Triple A 200 million dollar action film with controls, but at some point exploring childhood repressed trauma became a genre, and I'm not interested in that mess. I have enough repressed childhood trauma in my real life, and 20 hours of that at 60 bucks isn't worth a fart in the wind to me.

An update to PSO 2 online was shown, a new Fable with no game play or release year was shown, Jack Black singing for Pysconauggts 2 or whatever happened, and then a bunch of CGI trailers for games with no interest to me.

Overall, it was a mess, but I'm sure someone out there enjoyed what they had to show, but it wasn't me.

My favorite observations from the entire show was a guy in the comments saying that, Ghost of Tshushima looked better than Halo Infinite, and it's true. That sums up the Sex Box conference for today, and that comment summed up all Microsoft had to show. (Your big next generation game doesn't look as good as a PS4 game.)

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Metalsonic66
07/23/20 2:26:25 PM
#435:


ParanoidObsessive posted...
But my point is more that I have yet to see a single commercial for the game that tells you anything meaningful about it. And whenever people are all WOMGSOHYPE! over it they literally never describe anything about the game.
Maybe the game focuses more on gameplay than story. I would see that as a good thing, myself.

Just for the hell of it, I watched the first trailer to come up on YouTube. Literally tells you everything you'd want to know... Bad guys invade Samurai Land, Ghost Dood decides to fight them back using methods and techniques that the Samurai see as dishonorable. Hijinks ensue? Not sure I wanna spoil myself anymore beyond that.

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Zeus
07/23/20 2:32:45 PM
#436:


Just learned that a Motaro action figure exists

https://www.bigbadtoystore.com/Product/VariationDetails/130848

I kinda need this. Can't imagine ever seeing another Motaro figure, since I can't even recall the last time I saw a Motaro statue. On the other hand, I don't want to fall down that collectible rabbit hole again especially when I've managed to pull myself out.

The Wave Master posted...
Well, that Sex Box games show case was lackluster. There was some Halo, (Of Course) now Semi open world single player Halo, with a grappling hook, and Halo 2 combat to revive the old nostalgia train.

There are enough open-worlds nowadays that I can't see myself ever going back to closed-world titles (excluding fighters, 2d platformers, etc) >_>

Then again, I barely game

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Zeus
07/23/20 6:29:45 PM
#437:


Fuck, I'm feeling like I'm going to relapse hard >_>

Bluefin Distribution (company that handles Bandai of Japan's imports) has some great-looking sales... but some of the things I really wanted are gone. I think I'm definitely picking up that Thundercracker model kit, but there's a bunch of other stuff I'm looking at including being strongly tempted by a $50 ronin Jango Fett (from that feudal Japan SW series). At the same time, I've got a ton of stuff like that just sitting in boxes (both a bunch of Boba Fetts from Hasbro's SW Black line and then higher end stuff from BoJ as well). All things considered, I probably shouldn't be buying anything. >_<


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ParanoidObsessive
07/24/20 12:44:15 PM
#438:


I_Abibde posted...
A minor moment of geekery for me: I backed the Kickstarter for Amiga Power, a two-disc set of remixes from the titular computer (and the underground magazine of the same game), and my physical copy arrived yesterday. Feels good to jam to those tracks.

I have almost no computer nostalgia - when I was a kid I never owned one (nor did my parents), in school we were mostly using Commodore PETs, and the only friend I had who owned a home computer had a TRS-80 (Tandy Radio Shack), and my one cousin owned an Apple IIe.

Ironically, in spite of the fact that I never had or knew anyone who had a Commodore 64, it's always the computer I sort of associate with that era of time.

It wasn't until 386 PCs started becoming common that I really started interacting with them (and Macs), so the first real old-timey nostalgia I have for computers kind of goes back to that period (and telnetting to the local BBS to download pirated adventure games). I'm not 100% sure, but the first PC game I ever played might be Zork.
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I_Abibde
07/24/20 8:23:11 PM
#439:


ParanoidObsessive posted...
I have almost no computer nostalgia - when I was a kid I never owned one (nor did my parents), in school we were mostly using Commodore PETs, and the only friend I had who owned a home computer had a TRS-80 (Tandy Radio Shack), and my one cousin owned an Apple IIe.

The only computer my family owned during the '80s was the Apple IIC, to be upgraded to a Packard Bell 486 (and the Internet, courtesy of the Mosaic browser in '94). I had a favorite uncle who introduced me to the Commodore 64 and, after a certain point, the Amiga, but that was the only Amiga I ever saw.

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WhiskeyDisk
07/24/20 10:07:48 PM
#440:


"Don't Geek Open Inside" should be the name of the new topic.

i have spoken.

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Revelation34
07/24/20 10:47:59 PM
#441:


WhiskeyDisk posted...
"Don't Geek Open Inside" should be the name of the new topic.

i have spoken.


It should be plural in that case.
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Zeus
07/24/20 11:38:33 PM
#442:


WhiskeyDisk posted...
"Don't Geek Open Inside" should be the name of the new topic.

i have spoken.

I don't get it.

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Lokarin
07/24/20 11:47:53 PM
#443:


dammit steam

https://i.imgur.com/dhqw9x9.png

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Revelation34
07/25/20 8:35:23 PM
#444:


Zeus posted...


I don't get it.


Walking Dead. But it isn't relevant since that was season 1 anyway.
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WhiskeyDisk
07/25/20 10:28:56 PM
#445:


Revelation34 posted...
Walking Dead. But it isn't relevant since that was season 1 anyway.

Refresh my memory. How much new media are we looking at right now? Guess I should toss all my Arthur C. Clarke books too since they weren't written yesterday.

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Revelation34
07/25/20 11:19:22 PM
#446:


WhiskeyDisk posted...


Refresh my memory. How much new media are we looking at right now? Guess I should toss all my Arthur C. Clarke books too since they weren't written yesterday.


https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/000/512/435/65f.jpg
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Zeus
07/26/20 2:13:04 AM
#447:


Revelation34 posted...
https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/000/512/435/65f.jpg

Mildly amusing.

Granted, on the theme of broken English puns more than undead, I'd more be in favor of "If here by now then geek place be. Trouble time for you when heat comes." But then again, I've really got into Always Sunny lately.


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ParanoidObsessive
07/26/20 10:58:44 AM
#448:


WhiskeyDisk posted...
Guess I should toss all my Arthur C. Clarke books too since they weren't written yesterday.

I just put in an Amazon order and bought some books for my mother that were published in the 1970s.

The fabric of the space-time continuum is unraveling as we speak.
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Entity13
07/26/20 11:53:38 AM
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ParanoidObsessive posted...
The fabric of the space-time continuum is unraveling as we speak.

That explains 2020 pretty much. Thanks, PO.

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07/27/20 5:34:45 AM
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Entity13 posted...
That explains 2020 pretty much. Thanks, PO.

No, I'm pretty sure that's the work of my Chaos Engine. I finally got it running a few years back, and it's been slowly pumping more and more entropy into the universe at an exponential rate.
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