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Bass_X0
05/19/20 2:54:01 PM
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https://metro.co.uk/2020/05/19/un-releases-list-gender-neutral-replacements-commonly-used-words-12725607

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TheGoldenEel
05/19/20 2:55:31 PM
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Im sure someone will have a problem with this totally innocuous thing

sidenote tho maiden name and family name are two different things

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TheGoldenEel
05/19/20 2:56:45 PM
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CalypsoDoom posted...
you must be new here
You must not have read my post correctly

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cuttin_in_farm
05/19/20 2:57:29 PM
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Wait, women cant be landlords?

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TheGoldenEel
05/19/20 2:57:56 PM
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cuttin_in_farm posted...
Wait, women cant be landlords?
lord is gendered

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YugiNoob
05/19/20 2:58:05 PM
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I prefer human effort to manpower, and collegiate Greek system residence over sorority and fraternity.

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Choco
05/19/20 2:58:07 PM
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when a cool word like "firefighter" is an option in your language, you better fucking use that word

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cuttin_in_farm
05/19/20 3:00:37 PM
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TheGoldenEel posted...
lord is gendered

How? Its not an emperor.

Whats the female version of lord?

A landlord isnt even the same thing as an owner.

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hitokoriX
05/19/20 3:01:20 PM
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cuttin_in_farm posted...
How? Its not an emperor.

Whats the female version of lord?

A landlord isnt even the same thing as an owner.
The female version of lord is "lady"

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Shotgunnova
05/19/20 3:11:40 PM
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hitokoriX posted...
The female version of lord is "lady"


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cuttin_in_farm
05/19/20 3:13:28 PM
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Yea, I was trying to think of a female lord, so thank you for mentioning Fire Emblem.

Lord is not masculine. I dont get that one.

Mankind refers to the species. Humans. Not males. That one doesnt make sense either.

edit: holy shit, they even suggest humankind lol. Its just two extra letters lmao.

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Questionmarktarius
05/19/20 3:13:41 PM
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Top of the list is changing the word mankind to humankind
Has anyone informed Mick Foley?
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Zanzenburger
05/19/20 3:14:13 PM
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I'm okay with it. Honestly, the gender-neutral versions provided sound more professional anyways. I already have to use them when writing academic papers (I don't say "policeman" in papers when talking about a cop), so it isn't a stretch to use it in everyday vernacular.

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Rika_Furude
05/19/20 3:19:22 PM
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Not going to read the list and im not going to change my language. Why does anyone need to make any effort to be gender neutral? If i happen to be speaking to someone and i refer to them by the wrong gender, and they let me know, at that point i will correct myself. But i doubt that will ever happen

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specialkid8
05/19/20 3:19:52 PM
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Virtually all of these are already gender neutral by their actual usage. Just because a word has man in it it does not exclude or patronize women.
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trappedunderice
05/19/20 3:21:36 PM
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Gender neutral? Lol get the fuck outta here.
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dj1200
05/19/20 3:23:08 PM
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hmmm

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Bad_Mojo
05/19/20 3:25:14 PM
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"No, this house belongs to my owner."

Kidding aside, I don't have any issues with this. I already use most of them. I've always just naturally said things like "their hand" instead of "his/her" hand. Never understood why people used gender words when talking about figurative people.

The only one I disagree with this boyfriend/girlfreind. That should be up to them as a person to what they want to be called.

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TheGoldenEel
05/19/20 3:26:38 PM
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cuttin_in_farm posted...
Yea, I was trying to think of a female lord, so thank you for mentioning Fire Emblem.

Lord is not masculine. I dont get that one.

Mankind refers to the species. Humans. Not males. That one doesnt make sense either.

edit: holy shit, they even suggest humankind lol. Its just two extra letters lmao.
A video game using lord for a female character does not mean that lord is not traditionally a gendered word

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TheMikh
05/19/20 3:35:54 PM
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mankind - all yall errwhere
chairman - paramount leader
congressman - stage actor
businessman - cog
policeman - municipal institutional coercion agent
landlord - property taxpayer
boyfriend/girlfriend - illegitimate spousal hopeful
salesman - account executive
manpower - automation opportunity
maiden name - premarital deadname
fireman - anthropological blastoise
husband/wife - marital stakeholder

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philsov
05/19/20 3:43:30 PM
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How many of the 10 lords'a'leapin were chicks? Hmmmm?
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DevsBro
05/19/20 3:46:04 PM
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I was expecting this to be stupid but actually it's pretty much spot on.

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FaultyGourry
05/19/20 3:46:08 PM
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lol UN

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Zanzenburger
05/19/20 3:48:09 PM
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TheMikh posted...
mankind - all yall errwhere
chairman - paramount leader
congressman - stage actor
businessman - cog
policeman - municipal institutional coercion agent
landlord - property taxpayer
boyfriend/girlfriend - illegitimate spousal hopeful
salesman - account executive
manpower - automation opportunity
maiden name - premarital deadname
fireman - anthropological blastoise
husband/wife - marital stakeholder
Okay, I laughed.

Anthropological blastoise got me! XD

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Fossil
05/19/20 3:49:09 PM
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specialkid8 posted...
Just because a word has man in it it does not exclude or patronize women.
Yes it does! God you're so insensitive.
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uwnim
05/19/20 3:49:40 PM
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Some of the things are more easily solved by making man gender neutral and give a prefix to it when referring to males.

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Zanzenburger
05/19/20 3:50:13 PM
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DevsBro posted...
I was expecting this to be stupid but actually it's pretty much spot on.
Same. I think by calling them "gender neutral" it's gonna make people defensive real quick.

But in reality, the new terms are just more professional sounding than the old ones. In fact, in academic/scholarly writing, you are not even allowed to use the old style, only the new style, and it has been that way for years.

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dj1200
05/19/20 3:50:40 PM
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uwnim posted...
Some of the things are more easily solved by making man gender neutral and give a prefix to it when referring to males.
He-Man?

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YugiNoob
05/19/20 3:52:31 PM
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dj1200 posted...
He-Man?
He-Human

wait that was stupid of me to forget the He part.

...Human-Person?

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Propane4Sale
05/19/20 3:53:11 PM
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YugiNoob posted...
dj1200 posted...

He-Man?

He-Human

They-Human

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uwnim
05/19/20 3:53:12 PM
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dj1200 posted...
He-Man?
Lol, I dont think that one would work out.

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NinjaBreakfast
05/19/20 3:53:36 PM
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Tc you are a British man in your 40s, surely you have better things to be doing than doing low effort trans panic bait topics in gamefaqs

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Slaya4
05/19/20 3:59:27 PM
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Humankind
Owner
Workforce
Family name

Are stupid substitutes. And replacing MANkind with huMANkind is silly. No consistency others are fair.

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AltOmega2
05/19/20 4:11:32 PM
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cuttin_in_farm posted...
Mankind refers to the species. Humans. Not males. That one doesnt make sense either.

edit: holy shit, they even suggest humankind lol. Its just two extra letters lmao.
I once attended a writing session at a very liberal college and got corrrected on my use of "mankind" for that very reasoning.
This would have been back in 2013 or so.
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TheGoldenEel
05/19/20 4:16:29 PM
#38:


Slaya4 posted...
Humankind
Owner
Workforce
Family name

Are stupid substitutes. And replacing MANkind with huMANkind is silly. No consistency others are fair.
Despite human having man in it the two words have different etymological origins. e.g. man is not derived from human or vice versa

so yes, humankind would be a suitable substitute

the logic here is that just because the usage of these gendered words has been expanded to mean all people regardless of gender it doesnt mean they dont have gendered roots. Whether you think thats a problem or not is up to you, but we have non-gendered ways to say these things so why not?

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Bass_X0
05/19/20 4:17:51 PM
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NinjaBreakfast posted...
Tc you are a British man in your 40s, surely you have better things to be doing than doing low effort trans panic bait topics in gamefaqs

No I don't.

Also I'm 39 in August.

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hitokoriX
05/19/20 5:03:40 PM
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Shotgunnova posted...
Is that meant to be proof? Lord is a class in FE. Lady is the commonly accepted female equivalent -- have you never heard someone say "Yes Mi'lady"

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