Current Events > White woman wears Quinceañera to her PHD thesis defense, sparks outrage.

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Gafemage
05/16/20 10:01:07 PM
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Do you consider this offensive?



https://twitter.com/olgabot/status/1260259829576118272

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MedeaLysistrata
05/16/20 10:02:18 PM
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I did basically this at one point

Bad idea

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AlCalavicci
05/16/20 10:03:28 PM
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There are dresses that are specifically for Quinceanera?

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CreepySmile
05/16/20 10:04:18 PM
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Im not latinx, but I still want to speak out about how disgusting this is. The fact that a yt is wearing a quince dress that so many latinx family work hard to buy, and this is just a gimmick for you?

So this is the complaint?

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UnholyMudcrab
05/16/20 10:05:17 PM
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ASithLord7
05/16/20 10:05:53 PM
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I mean it's a really stupid and out of touch move but some of the comments saying it was "crushing" when they saw this are so damn over the top.

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treewojima
05/16/20 10:06:37 PM
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AlCalavicci posted...
There are dresses that are specifically for Quinceanera?

There are entire boutique stores dedicated to quinceaera attire, it's a big thing
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Gafemage
05/16/20 10:06:58 PM
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specialkid8
05/16/20 10:08:03 PM
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But why?
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ASithLord7
05/16/20 10:08:17 PM
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Her apology seemed pretty fine but still got people saying they're going to contact her program at her school to complain about her lmao.

Gafemage posted...
latinx
Problem?

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nemu
05/16/20 10:08:29 PM
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Why is cultural appropriation still a talking point? Unless someone literally tries to market it as if they invented it, it is not an actual thing.
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ASithLord7
05/16/20 10:08:54 PM
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nemu posted...
Why is cultural appropriation still a talking point? Unless someone literally tries to market it as if they invented it, it is not an actual thing.
You not thinking it matters doesn't make it not a thing.

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UnfairRepresent
05/16/20 10:09:26 PM
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who cares?
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RetsuZaiZen
05/16/20 10:09:30 PM
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I'm not Latino so I don't really understand?

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pikachupwnage
05/16/20 10:10:27 PM
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ASithLord7 posted...
I mean it's a really stupid and out of touch move but some of the comments saying it was "crushing" when they saw this are so damn over the top.


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Gafemage
05/16/20 10:10:28 PM
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RetsuZaiZen posted...
I'm not Latino so I don't really understand?

latinx*
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lordofmud
05/16/20 10:12:01 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
who cares?
+1

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Hexenherz
05/16/20 10:12:13 PM
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CreepySmile posted...
Im not latinx, but I still want to speak out about how disgusting this is. The fact that a yt is wearing a quince dress that so many latinx family work hard to buy, and this is just a gimmick for you?

So this is the complaint?

... is "yt" how that person spells "whitey"?

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nemu
05/16/20 10:12:13 PM
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ASithLord7 posted...
You not thinking it matters doesn't make it not a thing.
No, it's not a thing. It has never been a thing. It's manufactured outrage by the perpetually offended.
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Dreepapult
05/16/20 10:12:23 PM
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It's not offensive. But kinda dumb.

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Darkrobotisback
05/16/20 10:12:32 PM
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RetsuZaiZen posted...
I'm not Latino so I don't really understand?
A quinceanera is just a coming of age celebration for mostly girls who turn 16. Lots of Hispanics make a big deal out of it (particularly ones with lots of friends or large families), but not everyone celebrates it.
Though to me, as to why a fully grown woman is wearing one makes no sense to me.

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SH_expert44
05/16/20 10:13:32 PM
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ASithLord7
05/16/20 10:13:42 PM
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Crono99 posted...
Waaait... is this one of those cultural appropriation things?

That stuff never made sense to me, to be honest. Maybe everyone should stop wearing neckties too because it is culturally appropriating French culture since it was (apparently) made up by King Louis 13.

Actually, maybe we should all go around naked because I'm sure if we look back we can find that every single piece of clothing we're wearing originated in some culture or other.
This is about the level of cultural understanding I expect from someone who complains about staff speaking Spanish in his presence.

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Gafemage
05/16/20 10:14:15 PM
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Hexenherz posted...
... is "yt" how that person spells "whitey"?

I think it's supposed to mean "white", not "whitey". I've seen people say "yt ppl" before.
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ASithLord7
05/16/20 10:14:49 PM
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nemu posted...
No, it's not a thing. It has never been a thing. It's manufactured outrage by the perpetually offended.
Wahh I don't like thing so it doesn't exist is a great strategy.

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hockeybub89
05/16/20 10:15:01 PM
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Dreepapult posted...
It's not offensive. But kinda dumb.


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Damn_Underscore
05/16/20 10:15:32 PM
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Sad_Face
05/16/20 10:16:21 PM
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I'm not seeing the problem here. Though I don't see the point in why she wanted to dress up like a princess... okay framing it like that makes it understandable.

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EnterTheTekken
05/16/20 10:16:26 PM
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Looking at her thesis argument on the screen, she seems way smarter than most of us.

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eston
05/16/20 10:16:37 PM
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ASithLord7
05/16/20 10:17:24 PM
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EnterTheTekken posted...
Looking at her thesis argument on the screen, she seems way smarter than most of us.
She has a specialist's knowledge in a specific field. That has nothing to do with appropriation or making someone smarter.

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specialkid8
05/16/20 10:18:27 PM
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CreepySmile posted...
Im not latinx, but I still want to speak out about how disgusting this is. The fact that a yt is wearing a quince dress that so many latinx family work hard to buy, and this is just a gimmick for you?

So this is the complaint?
Holy shit, read her other comments.

"People being appropriated don't know well enough to be offended so it's my job to be offended for them".
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WizardPowers
05/16/20 10:18:55 PM
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It's just a regular dress lol


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nemu
05/16/20 10:21:31 PM
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ASithLord7 posted...
Wahh I don't like thing so it doesn't exist is a great strategy.
An individual cannot appropriate culture unless said individual has the reach to normalize something from another culture into their own culture. Though that in itself is rather leery because all of human history is based on cultural assimilation. There are only a very few specific cases where it's actually something that could be seen as an issue. This recent rebranding is completely nonsensical, and it has no basis in reality.
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Izrael
05/16/20 10:21:31 PM
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specialkid8 posted...
Holy shit, read her other comments.

"People being appropriated don't know well enough to be offended so it's my job to be offended for them".

Well that's condescending as fuck

Sounds almost like a joke, to be honest.

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YugiNoob
05/16/20 10:21:56 PM
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She could wear a kimono and I wouldn't give a flying fuck

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Flockaveli
05/16/20 10:23:01 PM
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dj1200
05/16/20 10:23:02 PM
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EnterTheTekken posted...
Looking at her thesis argument on the screen, she seems way smarter than most of us.

what does that matter?

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TheMikh
05/16/20 10:23:44 PM
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why would she do that

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I4NRulez
05/16/20 10:24:15 PM
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I wouldnt say its cultural appropriation because she isnt claiming it as her own

however i feel like its pretty disrespectful

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E32005
05/16/20 10:24:57 PM
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CreepySmile posted...
so many latinx family work hard to buy
assuming "latinx" people are poor is also offensive.

where i live half the population is latino and most are middle class.

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RetsuZaiZen
05/16/20 10:25:06 PM
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Darkrobotisback posted...
A quinceanera is just a coming of age celebration for mostly girls who turn 16. Lots of Hispanics make a big deal out of it (particularly ones with lots of friends or large families), but not everyone celebrates it.
Though to me, as to why a fully grown woman is wearing one makes no sense to me.

@Darkrobotisback

15... not 16. I know what it is, I'm just in no position to say if it's offensive or not.

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Smashingpmkns
05/16/20 10:26:10 PM
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I'm latino/chicano/white whatever and most of us don't give a fuck about this kinda shit lol we hold festivals in which we paint your face like a skeleton to celebrate OUR heritage regardless of your skin color. WE have an American holiday that mostly only white American celebrate and we don't say shit. We don't give a fuck about this silly shit and anyone acting like they're outraged for us if anything is more patronizing than this lady making herself look like a tacky moron.

What people need to realize is that Mexicans are some of the most inclusive people out there. We want you to enjoy our culture just as much as we do. We want you to love our shit as much as we love it. It's integral to our culture I'd say.
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dave_is_slick
05/16/20 10:27:22 PM
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CreepySmile posted...
latinx
I pretty much discount anyone who uses that word. It sounds and looks dumb.

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Flockaveli
05/16/20 10:28:34 PM
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Read the comments there's lots more Latinas saying they couldn't give a fuck. It's a ball gown. People in Spanish literally making fun of her using the phrase "As a non-Latinx". To not be mad on their behalf. I promise you Latinos for the most part couldn't give any less of a shit. One of the comments is a woman saying she burned her quince dress afterwards because there's no use for it. Only 3 countries in Latin America celebrate a quince.

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Darkrobotisback
05/16/20 10:28:52 PM
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RetsuZaiZen posted...
@Darkrobotisback

15... not 16. I know what it is, I'm just in no position to say if it's offensive or not.

I honestly don't think it's offensive.
It's no more different than a woman showing up to work or whatever with a bridal gown without the intention of getting married.

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UnholyMudcrab
05/16/20 10:29:47 PM
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Like, if it had taken her 15 years to get her degree I think it would be kind of a funny joke, but it's still an inappropriate form of dress for something like a PhD defense
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