Poll of the Day > My graduating undergrad class has become pretty far left.

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blu
05/16/20 6:29:27 PM
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Small class and pretty tight-knit. Just kinda tired of seeing stuff like this on Facebook from people (either constant posts or commonly comment in support of) I have high respect for. But all the posts get a ton of likes. I'm sure they understand it's not true...but idk because it's constant rants and neoliberalism attacks. Like I'd think they're russian fakes if I didn't know them.

I guess it's what happens when you spend time in groups where social status comes from these beliefs.

I know it sounds silly, but I didn't realize how much people's personalities form (and my own) over doing what's incentivized the most in their environment...and also driven by core motivations formed at very young age.



Jeff Bozos has a net worth of like...$120 bil.

https://berniesanders.com/issues/free-college-cancel-debt/

College for All Act to provide at least $48 billion per year to eliminate tuition and fees at four-year public colleges and universities, tribal colleges, community colleges, trade schools, and apprenticeship programs. Everyone deserves the right to a good higher education if they choose to pursue it, no matter their income.
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OniRonin
05/16/20 7:05:03 PM
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blu posted...
Like I'd think they're russian fakes if I didn't know them.
are you brain-damaged

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OniRonin
05/16/20 7:11:40 PM
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like you seem incapable of absorbing new information? clearly if you would think they were 'russian bots' but some circumstantial evidence disproves it, that would make you rethink your prior that a lot of popular people on social media are secret russians? and the 4.7% thing seems like an obvious refererence to the news stories about jeff bezos becoming a trillionaire within a few years (although it would be more accurate to say a 4.7% wealth tax)

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papercup
05/16/20 8:00:50 PM
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Wanting rich people to pay taxes is "far left" now?

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Revelation34
05/16/20 8:11:23 PM
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papercup posted...
Wanting rich people to pay taxes is "far left" now?


4.7% wouldn't pay for the full amount of what that guy was saying from 120 billion.
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BUMPED2002
05/16/20 8:18:15 PM
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Far left? What exactly does that even mean?

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BUMPED2002
05/16/20 8:19:36 PM
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blu posted...
Small class and pretty tight-knit. Just kinda tired of seeing stuff like this on Facebook from people (either constant posts or commonly comment in support of) I have high respect for. But all the posts get a ton of likes. I'm sure they understand it's not true...but idk because it's constant rants and neoliberalism attacks. Like I'd think they're russian fakes if I didn't know them.

I guess it's what happens when you spend time in groups where social status comes from these beliefs.

I know it sounds silly, but I didn't realize how much people's personalities form (and my own) over doing what's incentivized the most in their environment...and also driven by core motivations formed at very young age.



Jeff Bozos has a net worth of like...$120 bil.

https://berniesanders.com/issues/free-college-cancel-debt/

College for All Act to provide at least $48 billion per year to eliminate tuition and fees at four-year public colleges and universities, tribal colleges, community colleges, trade schools, and apprenticeship programs. Everyone deserves the right to a good higher education if they choose to pursue it, no matter their income.
Up until the early 1970s, most states public colleges was free for in-state residents.

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TheWitchMorgana
05/16/20 9:41:38 PM
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BUMPED2002 posted...
Far left? What exactly does that even mean?

in america its anything slightly left of center pretty much.

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madadude
05/16/20 9:49:10 PM
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TheWitchMorgana posted...
in america its anything slightly left of center pretty much.

Often even still right of center compared to the rest of the developed world.

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hungrymike
05/16/20 9:50:03 PM
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papercup posted...
Wanting rich people to pay taxes is "far left" now?
Rich people already pay taxes at higher percentage.
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madadude
05/16/20 10:00:30 PM
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hungrymike posted...
Rich people already pay taxes at higher percentage.

Not really anymore considering all the added deductions that are available for people with considerable assets. I think the average combined tax rate for the top 1% was only around 23% last year compared to people in the middle class who are paying around 25% on average.

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blu
05/16/20 10:02:53 PM
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madadude posted...
Often even still right of center compared to the rest of the developed world.

Thats the narrative now. Just like the narrative is the imperial system isnt used anywhere for anything other than the USA and two third world countries. Or that everyone gets free, quick, high quality healthcare in Europe.

papercup posted...
Wanting rich people to pay taxes is "far left" now?

No, but saying taxing bezos 4.7% would completely fund bernies proposed college for all act is.
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madadude
05/16/20 10:06:15 PM
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Yeah I definitely agree so many people on the left don't understand the nature of Jeff Bezos' wealth. Like its still absurdly high, but its almost all company assets. Not liquid at all, and definitely not just straight up cash he gets.

So many posts like the picture in your OP seem to equate his total assets with the amount of money he earns annual... which is just blatantly untrue.

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Kyuubi4269
05/16/20 11:38:16 PM
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hungrymike posted...

Rich people already pay taxes at higher percentage.

Rich people are paid more multiple times more for the same increase in performance.
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Blightzkrieg
05/16/20 11:50:33 PM
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Blu isnt a real person guys

He's a meme

Like Boxxy and Shrek

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Zeus
05/17/20 12:01:27 AM
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That's not even getting into the fact that Bezos's net worth mostly consists of stock which you couldn't tax anyway until he derives income from selling it.

TheWitchMorgana posted...
in america its anything slightly left of center pretty much.

You need your own laugh track.

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EclairReturns
05/17/20 12:05:02 AM
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Zeus posted...
own laugh track


Do you mean because you took offense to her implying that you, a self-proclaimed left-leaning centrist, is far left on the political spectrum?
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WhiskeyDisk
05/17/20 12:10:11 AM
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Kyuubi4269 posted...
Rich people are paid more multiple times more for the same increase in performance.

And how much in taxes is collected just from sales tax revenue from Amazon purchases vs ye olde second hand bookstore?

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TheWitchMorgana
05/17/20 12:19:33 AM
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EclairReturns posted...
Do you mean because you took offense to her implying that you, a self-proclaimed left-leaning centrist, is far left on the political spectrum?

funny how i was not even thinking about that when i said that. i just live rent-free in zeus' head i guess

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Zeus
05/17/20 1:23:28 AM
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TheWitchMorgana posted...
funny how i was not even thinking about that when i said that. i just live rent-free in zeus' head i guess

What's funny is thinking that Bernie's plan -- which is left of most European nations -- is simply a little over left of center. And even most European nations which do offer some form of free college (most of which are less generous than his proposals -- even Sweden is conservative compared to some elements in his proposal, considering he wants to cover non-tuition costs as well) have a lower per capita enrollment than the US does right now.

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Krazy_Kirby
05/17/20 9:01:18 AM
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lots of colleges are
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Krazy_Kirby
05/17/20 9:02:02 AM
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Zeus posted...


What's funny is thinking that Bernie's plan -- which is left of most European nations -- is simply a little over left of center. And even most European nations which do offer some form of free college (most of which are less generous than his proposals -- even Sweden is conservative compared to some elements in his proposal, considering he wants to cover non-tuition costs as well) have a lower per capita enrollment than the US does right now.


just ignore him
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