Poll of the Day > Can American police really flash their badges and take your car?

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FatalAccident
05/16/20 2:09:18 PM
#1:


You see it on tv all the time, policeman needs to chase a criminal, flashes a badge at a civilian and takes their car to make the chase. Is that for real?

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Nichtcrawler X
05/16/20 2:14:08 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQC8IxoNAkg

I forgot the actual answer, just remember watching the vid...

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gloBal enemy
05/16/20 7:42:10 PM
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so whats the TLDR?

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LinkPizza
05/16/20 7:58:41 PM
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I think they can in certain cases. Though, I believe a lot of paperwork is required afterwards or something...
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Lokarin
05/16/20 8:06:32 PM
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they can. they can even just... take your car, at all.

they can even go into your house out of uniform and by picking a lock and shoot you... https://www.cbsnews.com/news/breonna-taylor-family-sues-wrongful-death-killed-police-louisville/

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streamofthesky
05/16/20 8:14:03 PM
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I always thought the implication was that they were still *asking*, just with an appeal to authority, and the citizen could refuse. They just never do, b/c it seems like the right thing to do, and the city/state/Feds are on the hook for a new ride if they mess up the car.

Considering how many people put off auto maintenance b/c they don't have the money, the more shocking thing is that these cars always perform super well at high speed chases and never break down. Not that someone is giddy at the chance to get a free new car to replace the clunker that law enforcement borrowed.
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dancer62
05/16/20 8:14:55 PM
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Failure to assist a police officer when requested is crime by English Common Law, in Canada, and in most US States. It used to be more common for police to commandeer a car, but can still happen.

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LinkPizza
05/16/20 8:17:28 PM
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Here's another question... Can you ride shotgun? Or do you drive for them like an Uber?
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Revelation34
05/16/20 8:54:49 PM
#9:


dancer62 posted...
Failure to assist a police officer when requested is crime by English Common Law, in Canada, and in most US States. It used to be more common for police to commandeer a car, but can still happen.


What a shitty law.
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jsb0714
05/16/20 9:07:36 PM
#10:


FatalAccident posted...
You see it on tv all the time
There's your problem. You believe whatever TV says happens.
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dancer62
05/16/20 9:16:10 PM
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Revelation34 posted...
What a shitty law.
Citizen's Duty is bad? Huh?

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DirtBasedSoap
05/16/20 9:24:35 PM
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Ive seen it in movies but Ive never heard of this happening irl to anyone ever

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GanonsSpirit
05/16/20 9:34:11 PM
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Revelation34 posted...
What a shitty law.

It's probably bullshit, considering who posted it.
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Zeus
05/16/20 9:35:13 PM
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Lokarin posted...
they can. they can even just... take your car, at all.

they can even go into your house out of uniform and by picking a lock and shoot you... https://www.cbsnews.com/news/breonna-taylor-family-sues-wrongful-death-killed-police-louisville/

More importantly, they can break into your home in the dead of night, not identify themselves so there's no way of distinguishing them from any other intruder, and if you shoot them, you can be arrested and face life imprisonment for it.


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dedbus
05/16/20 10:56:46 PM
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They don't want the police to chase anyway so it's not likely.
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Revelation34
05/16/20 11:05:30 PM
#16:


dancer62 posted...

Citizen's Duty is bad? Huh?


Sounds like it.
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Kyuubi4269
05/16/20 11:05:36 PM
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GanonsSpirit posted...


It's probably bullshit, considering who posted it.

You could spend 2 seconds to look it up before making an ass of yourself.
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streamofthesky
05/17/20 12:55:52 AM
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Zeus posted...
More importantly, they can break into your home in the dead of night, not identify themselves so there's no way of distinguishing them from any other intruder, and if you shoot them, you can be arrested and face life imprisonment for it.
If you shoot at all, even if you miss, and the police in turn unleash a hail of gunfire that kills someone else in your residence, they could probably hit you w/ "felony murder" for your "criminal actions being responsible" for that person's death.
It's all pretty fucked up.
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ZBug_
05/17/20 4:33:34 AM
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Lokarin posted...
they can. they can even just... take your car, at all.

they can even go into your house out of uniform and by picking a lock and shoot you... https://www.cbsnews.com/news/breonna-taylor-family-sues-wrongful-death-killed-police-louisville/
Thats literally not what happened.
They had a warrant with Taylors name on it and her boyfriend didnt like it so he shot at them.

The police have wrongfully killed a lot of black people Im not denying that.
This was terrible incident, Taylor shouldnt have died, but if you want to blame someone blame the stupid ass boyfriend.

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Krazy_Kirby
05/17/20 8:56:11 AM
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you also see cops reading people their rights when arrested on tv. not only is there no law saying you must do that, it's actually better if you don't. as long as you aren't questioning them, anything they say will be admissible against them.

there are also no "good samaritan" laws unless you are a 1st responder or something similar. regular person has no legal obligation to try and save someone
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adjl
05/17/20 9:48:22 AM
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Krazy_Kirby posted...
there are also no "good samaritan" laws unless you are a 1st responder or something similar. regular person has no legal obligation to try and save someone

Good samaritan laws don't compel passers-by to help, they protect passers-by who decide to help from litigation if that attempt to help goes awry. If you try to save someone from choking by doing abdominal thrusts and you break a rib such that they end up with a punctured lung and die from that, good samaritan laws protect you from being charged for that death. Naturally, there are reasonable limitations to this (i.e. don't try performing open heart surgery as a layperson because somebody complains of chest pain), but that's the gist of it.

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streamofthesky
05/17/20 10:52:54 AM
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ZBug_ posted...
Thats literally not what happened.
They had a warrant with Taylors name on it and her boyfriend didnt like it so he shot at them.

The police have wrongfully killed a lot of black people Im not denying that.
This was terrible incident, Taylor shouldnt have died, but if you want to blame someone blame the stupid ass boyfriend.
Her boyfriend was asleep and heard people breaking into their fucking home (cops that hadn't announced themselves, as per neighbor accounts).
How in the fucking hell do you expect him to assume they're police when the two of them had done nothing wrong and had NO DRUGS?
(Also, apparently the druggie the cops were looking for was an ex-BF of hers. Not that I blame her at all still, but the BF literally had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with any of this, so it's especially vile to try and pin blame on him, like the police currently are doing, holding him in prison w/ a litany of bogus charges)
The only stupid ass thing about this is your posts.
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ultra magnus13
05/17/20 11:28:07 AM
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ZBug_ posted...

Thats literally not what happened.
They had a warrant with Taylors name on it and her boyfriend didnt like it so he shot at them.

The police have wrongfully killed a lot of black people Im not denying that.
This was terrible incident, Taylor shouldnt have died, but if you want to blame someone blame the stupid ass boyfriend.


From the article you posted.

"According to the lawsuit, they had a "knock and announce" search warrant for Taylor's apartment, and were looking for a man who lived in a different part of Louisville who had already been apprehended by LMPD the previous day.

The search warrant, obtained by CBS News, named two men: Adrian Orlandes Walker and Jamarcus Cordell Glover, and said they had been observed transporting packages suspected to be drugs from the address. The search warrant does not name Kenneth Walker."
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Revelation34
05/17/20 6:29:15 PM
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ZBug_ posted...

Thats literally not what happened.
They had a warrant with Taylors name on it and her boyfriend didnt like it so he shot at them.

The police have wrongfully killed a lot of black people Im not denying that.
This was terrible incident, Taylor shouldnt have died, but if you want to blame someone blame the stupid ass boyfriend.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=prw2B_03IzY

Krazy_Kirby posted...
you also see cops reading people their rights when arrested on tv. not only is there no law saying you must do that, it's actually better if you don't. as long as you aren't questioning them, anything they say will be admissible against them.

there are also no "good samaritan" laws unless you are a 1st responder or something similar. regular person has no legal obligation to try and save someone


The ignorance.
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Lokarin
05/17/20 6:32:30 PM
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I may have even linked the wrong article... since there's pretty much a police shooting every week.

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wrbk
05/17/20 6:33:25 PM
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Yes they can if it's in dire need.

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Krazy_Kirby
05/18/20 3:05:20 PM
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Revelation34 posted...


The ignorance.


please google before trying to claim you know miranda laws. there is no law saying you must be read your miranda rights when you are arrested.... you must be read them before being interviewed, not just because you were arrested.

there is no excuse for believing what tv/movies tell you just because you hate cops
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Revelation34
05/18/20 3:42:04 PM
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Krazy_Kirby posted...


please google before trying to claim you know miranda laws. there is no law saying you must be read your miranda rights when you are arrested.... you must be read them before being interviewed, not just because you were arrested.

there is no excuse for believing what tv/movies tell you just because you hate cops


Tell that to who the rights are named after.
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Krazy_Kirby
05/18/20 3:45:03 PM
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so you didn't google
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Revelation34
05/18/20 3:45:54 PM
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Krazy_Kirby posted...
so you didn't google


Neither did you.
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GanonsSpirit
05/18/20 4:34:26 PM
#32:


Krazy_Kirby posted...
please google before trying to claim you know miranda laws. there is no law saying you must be read your miranda rights when you are arrested.... you must be read them before being interviewed, not just because you were arrested.

Maybe you should take your own advice. Anything said before Miranda rights are read is inadmissible in court.
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Krazy_Kirby
05/18/20 4:54:44 PM
#33:


GanonsSpirit posted...


Maybe you should take your own advice. Anything said before Miranda rights are read is inadmissible in court.


only if they question you w/o reading them. if they arrest you and you start blabbing w/o them asking you anything then it can be used against you
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Krazy_Kirby
05/18/20 5:02:58 PM
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Krazy_Kirby
05/20/20 2:37:33 PM
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Metalsonic66
05/20/20 4:49:38 PM
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streamofthesky posted...
Considering how many people put off auto maintenance b/c they don't have the money, the more shocking thing is that these cars always perform super well at high speed chases and never break down. Not that someone is giddy at the chance to get a free new car to replace the clunker that law enforcement borrowed
This would make a good plot in an action/comedy flick

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streamofthesky
05/20/20 9:53:01 PM
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Metalsonic66 posted...
This would make a good plot in an action/comedy flick
Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Something like a Naked Gun movie. It'd be a perfect gag.
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