Poll of the Day > Do you think it's ok for a 45 yr old to be in a serious relationship w/ an 18

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America_Dude posted...

Oh, more of the arguing things I didnt say. And youre still working off the completely wrong assumption. Yet you keep telling me Im wrong when Ive never even remotely attempted to change what I said.

Didnt say? Really? I mean, it was quoted. Just because you deleted you post doesnt mean you didnt say it. But that just means youve dug yourself into a hole too deep to climb out of. Ive addressed the post about the pedo thing. Or is there another wrong assumption Im worried on. Go ahead. Ill wait here for you to spew more bullshit out of your mouth as you try to backpedal out of a hole. Im just about to go do laundry. So, lets here it...
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You guys are weird. Anyone that is 45 and dating an 18 year old is a disgusting pedo pervert. Makes me think ya'll are the type to prey on 18 year olds too.

Bet if 16 was the age of consent everywhere you'd have no problem with that either huh?

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America_Dude posted...

When youve run out of the ability to comprehend basic things, imply their entire argument is wrong without being able to show it and then become aggressively insulting over it. Thatll prove youre right!

I have no problem comprehending. You seem to have a problem explaining yourself, though. You keep going on about working off the wrong assumption. But only once have you told me what that assumption was. I told you about what you said, but I guess now youre lying about having said it or something. As for you one time showing of the wrong assumption, Ive already proved it wrong to the best of my abilities for now. I cant do much when you delete your post to pretend you didnt say what you said. I dont even think you could see those post on that other site. So, Im just here to hear what bullshit youll try to sell next.

Also, where am I getting hostile. Talking to you. Sure, I dont like you, but Im not being hostile or aggressive. Sure, Im calling your words bullshit. But thats only because thats what they are. You keep lying, thinking itll get you out of that hole or make you look good. Its wont. Ill keep going if you want to.
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SirPikachu posted...

Bet if 16 was the age of consent everywhere you'd have no problem with that either huh?

Some places, it is 16. And those 16 year olds can do whatever they want. That being said, while it can be consensual at that age, it sometimes has its own rules. So, theres that...
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Zangulus posted...

He says he has no problem with comprehension, while typing paragraphs out in order to attempt to hide such. And then stating I need to explain myself when Ive never changed, nor hidden what I said.

This adds up...

Oh, now to starting calling me a liar when Ive never changed, nor hidden what I said. This is awesome. What lengths will you go to in your attempts to try to bend reality to your misconceptions.

I have no idea what youre talking about...
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Zangulus posted...

Sorry. Wrong board.

Uh... Ok...
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SirPikachu posted...

You guys are weird. Anyone that is 45 and dating an 18 year old is a disgusting pedo pervert. Makes me think ya'll are the type to prey on 18 year olds too.

Bet if 16 was the age of consent everywhere you'd have no problem with that either huh?

Nah I really don't care but I'm not with an 18 year old now so why would I be when I'm 45?

Then again according to you I'm a gross pedo because I'm 3 years older than my spouse, who actually is more mentally capable than I am due to me being on the spectrum and a few mental illness issues so...

SirPikachu posted...

You guys are weird. Anyone that is 45 and dating an 18 year old is a disgusting pedo pervert. Makes me think ya'll are the type to prey on 18 year olds too.

Bet if 16 was the age of consent everywhere you'd have no problem with that either huh?

My minimum is 23 years old and my max would be maybe like 37 and guess what. Some people who met with some age difference just happen to meet without thinking "oh that person is 18, let's take advantage of him/her!" You sound like the people who claim straight men are gay if they defend gay couple. I would not date a 45 years old and I don't care what other people do because I don't try to interfere in relationship where it's not my business. Guess what? I would not date a 18 years old either! And btw it would be easy as fuck to take advantage of 45 years old and being a complete goldigger, but I won't do it

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DPsx7 posted...

Why should anyone care?

We shouldn't. However in today's world where people get offended on behalf of other people them is it really so surprising?

Do I think it's OK? Sure I guess. as long as it's between two consenting adults, it's not really my place to gatekeep.

Is it weird? Maybe. If it's just two loving adults in a relationship that's pretty normal; nothing unusual about that IMO.

If it's a dude buying some high heels for the lady to try on in addition to paying her $500 to kick him in the balls, that is pretty fucking weird.

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SirPikachu posted...

There's a difference between doing porn and being in a relationship. You can look at 18 year olds becasue of their bodies, that's fine. What makes you a pedo creep is wanting to take advantage of naive 18 year olds because you're too much of a creep to get a girl your own age.

Also, if you have to define what pedophilia and adelophilia is to justify yourself, you're probably a pedo creep. @Revelation34

Nobody is justifying anything. You're just flat out using words wrong.

SirPikachu posted...

You guys are weird. Anyone that is 45 and dating an 18 year old is a disgusting pedo pervert. Makes me think ya'll are the type to prey on 18 year olds too.

Bet if 16 was the age of consent everywhere you'd have no problem with that either huh?

This is 500% wrong.

LinkPizza posted...

I have no idea what youre talking about...

He forgot what account he was logged into.
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wwinterj25 posted...

I do love when people elaborate on their posts.

Dreamgamer_lgbt posted...

Unwanted judgement on someone's relationship is not just nosy , it's also very wrong. In terms of modern human ethics it's beyond the line and shows underdeveloped civility.

Someone who judges other's relationship ( especially in public statements ) that doesn't involve them should be thought of basic boundaries that shows a proper manners , respect and civility.

Do remember the forum you're posting on lol.


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epik_fail1 posted...

Not sure about straight people, but as a 31 years old gay guy, I definitely think it would be easier for me to take advantage of a 45+ years old than someone younger than me. Their bodies is not as strong as they used to be and decades of loneliness may pressure them to do more to be acknowledged.

Where do you get this shit? I could take advantage of you at age 65 even without my left leg strapped on lmao. Get a clue buddy, us older guys got more game than you think lol.

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lol its not a contest

In fact, who even thinks "im going to take advantage of this person so hard", when pursuing a sexual/romantic relation with someone?

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SirPikachu posted...

There's a difference between doing porn and being in a relationship. You can look at 18 year olds becasue of their bodies, that's fine. What makes you a pedo creep is wanting to take advantage of naive 18 year olds because you're too much of a creep to get a girl your own age.

Seriously? When I was around 34yo a young girl at work started flirting with me, a lot. As time went on she got increasingly more persistent until I finally relented and went out to a movie with her. She was very pretty and we had a short 3 month fling as far as I was concerned. Turned out one of the reasons for it was she was trying to make her prior boyfriend jealous. I guess it's not just the man using sex as a power tool eh.

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There's still no reason for an 18 year old to be with someone as old as their dad. It's disgusting, and the older one is a fucking creep.

If a 45 year old dude tried to date an 18 year old girl where I live, you can bet his ass would get destroyed by all of that girl's family. And rightfully so. Fuck pedo creeps

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SirPikachu posted...

There's still no reason for an 18 year old to be with someone as old as their dad. It's disgusting, and the older one is a fucking creep.

If a 45 year old dude tried to date an 18 year old girl where I live, you can bet his ass would get destroyed by all of that girl's family. And rightfully so. Fuck pedo creeps

Since you still clearly don't know what that word means:

Definition of pedophile in English:

pedophile
(British paedophile)
Translate pedophile into Spanish

Pronunciation /pedfl/ /pdfal/
NOUN
A person who is sexually attracted to children.
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SirPikachu posted...

Fuck no. 100% creepy pedo.

You clearly don't understand what a paedophile is.

I would say even 18 and 23 is weird as fuck. Once you are past college age, that's when you should be open to older adults. 18 is still very much a kid IMO.

18 is a adult and that's a fact. Also being attracted to younger folk doesn't mean I'm not attracted to older folk too. Providing they are of legal age(16 over here) I don't care.

I'm only 22 myself and I wouldn't want to date an 18 year old. Saying they're mature enough is just lying to yourself and makes you a creepy pedo.

Again you don't know what a pedo is and age doesn't equal maturity as you're proving.

SirPikachu posted...

You guys are weird. Anyone that is 45 and dating an 18 year old is a disgusting pedo pervert. Makes me think ya'll are the type to prey on 18 year olds too.

Yes I am weird and yes I'd have a relationship a adult. I can also be a pervert too.

Bet if 16 was the age of consent everywhere you'd have no problem with that either huh?

Why should I when I don't have any issue with it being the legal age in the UK?

SirPikachu posted...

There's still no reason for an 18 year old to be with someone as old as their dad.

Save for being attracted to each other and wanting a relationship that's perfectly legal between two consenting adults sure.

If a 45 year old dude tried to date an 18 year old girl where I live, you can bet his ass would get destroyed by all of that girl's family. And rightfully so. Fuck pedo creeps

Posted by the guy with the username from a TV show aimed at kids that's ironic. Someone calling someone a paedophile wrongly can also get your arse kicked or better yet you can get in trouble for slander. Also "get destroyed by all of that girl's family" would technically get said family locked up while the "pedo" can still be with said girl legally.

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Revelation34 posted...

pedophile
(British paedophile)
Translate pedophile into Spanish

Pronunciation /pedfl/ /pdfal/
NOUN
A person who is sexually attracted to children.

specifically pre-pubescent children

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All of you guys who are against older guy-younger girl flings would be like, "damn that dude is lucky" if it were young guy-hot older woman.

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I mean, I really do think 16 is too young for an adult (especially older then early 20's). I know 16 is legal many places in the world (and even some in the US), but you kinda gotta draw the line somewhere.

I'm not gonna judge someone for dating an 18 year old if they are 30-40, over 40 is a bit creepy to me, and I would be concerned for the girl, but if she was really happy (and not you know being forced or anything) then I would be fine with it.

But 16? That is a child, not an adult, I don't care what they say the age of consent is. I was WAY freaking mature at 15, 14, heck 11, but it would have been wrong for an adult to "date" me. I worked more by the time I was 16 then most 22 year olds, I took care of my brother for the first 11 years of my life (from 2 up), fed myself etc. I was basically a parent (not a good one, I had no clue about discipline etc, and let him do whatever he wanted which ended up being a really bad thing).

So yeah, you would have a hard time finding a more "mature" kid, but I was not mature sexually for sure, and its' fairly likely a 16 year old girl isn't going to be either. They should have the chance to date other kids their age, go on dates, have first kisses, hold hands etc.

I'll go with an argument that a 16 year old and a 19 year old would be ok, or maybe even a 20 year old. Someone who is 21 or older with someone under 18 though....is already pushing it (they can legally drink, their friends (if they have any) are probably not going to have anything in common with her etc).

But a 30+ year old with someone under 18? Yeah, no, sorry, I can't get my head around that one.

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deoxxys posted...

specifically pre-pubescent children

Nothing about paedo means prepubescent, it really depends on what you consider a child and Greeks didn't consider 13 year olds children.
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xjayguyx posted...

Serious relationship no.. for a 45 year old guy to be interested in a 18 year old girl.. that guy has serious issues.

My wife's youngest sister started seeing a 25 year old guy when she was 18 and let's just say that 25 year old doesn't come around me or the wife's dad anymore. Disgusting.

Now if it's just nsa sex eh.. what ever then.

First who said it was a 45 year old guy? Maybe it's a 45 year old lady with an 18 year old guy. Or maybe 2 guys or 2 girls?

And 7 years? really that's too big of a gap for you? Me and my GF are 29 and 36. My friends have a 6 year gap, 13 year gap and 18 year gap. All perfectly normal relationships. Married many years now and nothing odd about any of them.

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is that what british people call pedo? paedo? Or am I mixing it up?

Edit: maybe not

I was just reading the wiki and both spellings are listed.

I just think its a good differentiation since the older you get even legal adults are called children sometimes (my mother does this)

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deoxxys posted...

is that what british people call pedo? paedo? Or am I mixing it up?

Edit: maybe not

I was just reading the wiki and both spellings are listed.

The Empire uses paedo, Americans confuse children with feet.
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Pretty sure once puberty hit throughout most of history that was old enough, and even relationships with actual kids (before puberty) was not always considered bad (or mostly ignored).

It's only recently that laws have been made to protect kids, and there are still places in the world where those laws don't exist.

That is extremely sad.

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Kyuubi4269 posted...

The Empire uses paedo, Americans confuse children with feet.

I used to used paedo but got tired of explaining.

I've always lived in the US.

But I also use grey instead of gray so idek.

SirPikachu posted...

Bet if 16 was the age of consent everywhere you'd have no problem with that either huh?

I mean it is in most places

This thread is a perfect example of how morals are subjective.

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deoxxys posted...

specifically pre-pubescent children

Actually now that I think about it that site use to have prepubescent on it too for the definition.
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

Nothing about paedo means prepubescent, it really depends on what you consider a child and Greeks didn't consider 13 year olds children.

I've seen it written both ways. Some say children, some say prepubescent children, and some give ages (which doesn't help much since puberty is more of a range then an exact age). Either way, no one should be having sex with the children. Not even the other children...
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Decoy77 posted...

First who said it was a 45 year old guy? Maybe it's a 45 year old lady with an 18 year old guy. Or maybe 2 guys or 2 girls?

Most people think that, for some reason. Even wolfy's post mostly only talks about older guy/younger girl (Though he said he briefly mentioned the other way). Even another board where I talked about this, the people who care more so about it always talk about it as if the older one is the guy and the younger one is a lady. Though, some have mentioned gay couples, as well. But I think it's just natural. Even I would probably think older guy, which is funny because the biggest age gaps I've seen in real life have had older women. A lot of the younger guys (18-23) were datings hot older MILFS apparently...

ChaosAzeroth posted...

But I also use grey instead of gray so idek.

I use grey more than gray, and I'm in the US...
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VioletMassacre posted...

Depends on what exactly you mean by "mature sexually". Since it's not uncommon to enter puberty even before the teens, I would say you're basically abnormal for not being sexually mature at 16. It's more the mental maturity that's a problem.

I was sexually immature until 19, and even having sex at 19, I was STILL sexually immmture for years. Never dated etc when younger, and just cause I had sex certainly didn't compensate for that.

There are many types of maturity though. I was very responsible for my age, but I still could have been easily taken advantage of.

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wolfy42 posted...

I was sexually immature until 19, and even having sex at 19, I was STILL sexually immmture for years. Never dated etc when younger, and just cause I had sex certainly didn't compensate for that.

Sure. But I don't think dating really helps with that, either... Depending on which definition you're using. I know many people who have dated, but still remain sexually immature. And many people date many others without having sex, as well... And if you don't like the people you're age, why should you be forced to date them, honestly. That's like telling someone before they can date this person they like, they should date a bunch of people they don't...
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For normal people: Fuck no.

If the older person is rich and can set up the other for life then yeah why not? If they get married then the youngster can ensure they're well-covered when the older person inevitably trades them in for a new youngster 10 years later.

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LinkPizza posted...

Sure. But I don't think dating really helps with that, either... Depending on which definition you're using. I know many people who have dated, but still remain sexually immature. And many people date many others without having sex, as well... And if you don't like the people you're age, why should you be forced to date them, honestly. That's like telling someone before they can date this person they like, they should date a bunch of people they don't...

I mean, I would have been an easy mark for anyone who showed interest in me, and i'm sure there are girls like that as well. Dating just a bit still doesn't make someone ready for a "grown up" relationship, but it's a start along the path.

I mean, it's possible there are people who are just plain out only attracted to adults/people older than them, but even they have probably at least TRIED dating people their own age and had some experience.

I'm down for any two people of any gender and to some degree age (two or more I guess) doing whatever they like with each other as long as everyone is happy......but I do think that a person should be allowed to mature enough to have their own personality and know who they are, before being in a relationship with someone who is much older and obviously already does.

18....is an arbitrary number, but you are at least expected to have some life experiences by that point, you can create contracts, and you should be used to making at least some decisions on your own. It still doesn't mean you are really ready for an adult relationship, but again, you gotta draw the line somewhere.

Could there be 17 year olds who are ready for a real relationship and the responsibilities that can come with it? Sure. I mean, honestly you are probably MORE likely to get pregnant by accident by dating a 16 year old boy if your a 17 year old girl, then if you date a 30+ something year old dude. There are many strong willed 17 year olds who know who they are, and are not going to be controlled by an older man etc.

But there are 17 year old girls who could be manipulated and controlled etc as well, and I think having protections against that is a good thing (and not just girls, but heck, I'm a guy and i'm more protective of girls than guys...I can't help it. I respect women and think they can do everything a man can, but men can't do everything a woman can (for instance get pregnant) and therefore I believe you have to be more protective of younger girls than guys (although both should be protected).

Things are different now though as well, everyone has the internet and is educated etc, so in theory at least are more mature earlier on, and more informed. Also just from what I have seen, women are more sexually free/aggressive etc (at least in the area I have lived recently). They initiate sexual encounters alot more, and I had roomates/friends who were literally put out because they couldn't find girls who wanted to "date" but just wanted to hook up lol.

So maybe you don't need the protections as much anymore, but I still think anyone over 21 dating someone under 18 is wrong. That is a personal opinion though, but I doubt it's one that will change in the future (for me).

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Idk. I mean, everyone matured differently and at different times. If you find someone you like, then you found someone you like. Anyone can be taken advantage of by anyone at any time by anyone. Sure, you could say its easier for an older person. But some might say its easier to be taken advantage of by someone your age. Maybe dating someone who only uses you for sex and money (because they dont have a job). I feel like that happens more when the two are equal age. Like college aged and stuff...

Though, I dont think you need to date people your age to find yourself. It doesnt make much sense to me.

Either way, I think people can kind of date whoever. If they think theyre ready, go for it. If they arent ready, then take some time. You wont ever really know when youre ready. So, might as well try. Not only that, but asking an age isnt always the first thing people do. Some people you can tell are adults, but look really good for their age. In the end, just date who you want and dont worry what others think...
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LinkPizza posted...

Idk. I mean, everyone matured differently and at different times. If you find someone you like, then you found someone you like. Anyone can be taken advantage of by anyone at any time by anyone. Sure, you could say its easier for an older person. But some might say its easier to be taken advantage of by someone your age. Maybe dating someone who only uses you for sex and money (because they dont have a job). I feel like that happens more when the two are equal age. Like college aged and stuff...

Though, I dont think you need to date people your age to find yourself. It doesnt make much sense to me.

Either way, I think people can kind of date whoever. If they think theyre ready, go for it. If they arent ready, then take some time. You wont ever really know when youre ready. So, might as well try. Not only that, but asking an age isnt always the first thing people do. Some people you can tell are adults, but look really good for their age. In the end, just date who you want and dont worry what others think...

It would be easy for a younger person to take advantage of an older person especially if they are lonely.
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