Board 8 > Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1359

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LeonhartFour
05/09/20 9:19:50 AM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/1359-south-division-semifinal-solid-snake-vs-ryu

The infamous Snake sprite rears its ugly head!

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A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's extrapolated percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA
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ninkendo
05/09/20 9:21:17 AM
#2:


go go Xenoblade lower that Smash percentage for my second chance bracket

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ctesjbuvf
05/09/20 9:25:04 AM
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I'm 0.09% away from perfect right now!

And Smash' worst hours are about to be over so hopefully it stays around that.

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Advokaiser
05/09/20 1:34:27 PM
#4:


Wait Why are we having a Mass Effect 3 pic here?

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Leonhart4
05/09/20 2:09:13 PM
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Advokaiser posted...
Wait Why are we having a Mass Effect 3 pic here?

Had to show some respect for the best game in the series.

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Omniscientless
05/09/20 2:19:06 PM
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Quick, someone enter a Wind Waker picture for Breath of the Wild.

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Team Rocket Elite
05/09/20 2:24:53 PM
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Ugh, I should have submitted a picture of GSC for HGSS. No way to fix that now, though. Is it too late to submit a Dark Souls 3 picture for the upcoming match?
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LinkMarioSamus
05/09/20 3:29:28 PM
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Omniscientless posted...
Quick, someone enter a Wind Waker picture for Breath of the Wild.

More like Skyward Sword at this rate.

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_SecretSquirrel
05/09/20 4:07:45 PM
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MechanicalWall
05/09/20 4:11:22 PM
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Praise the Sun

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Advokaiser
05/09/20 4:20:25 PM
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MechanicalWall posted...
Praise the Sun

Beat me to it.

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snake_5036
05/09/20 4:31:44 PM
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Good Souls pic, ulti

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KamikazePotato
05/09/20 5:02:46 PM
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This isn't a response to any recent post in particular, but it always baffles me when random new users come into the stats topic and start treating it like their personal opinion blog. They have this hot take on a game they want to get off their chest, and instead of making a topic about it they choose Contest Stats and Discussion #1359 (what is wrong with us) as a launching point. So then you get pages like this:

B8er #1 - *deeply inhales* Game 1 is really disappointing today. I thought for sure that they would get 55%, but at the moment they only have 54.95%. When you consider Crono/Vincent trends and the current phase of the moon, this could easily be the a Turd of the Round performance.

B8er #2 - *pushes up glasses* ACHKtually, due to the BBQ factor I think it's more than reasonable that Game 1 would underperform slightly. Here, I wrote a 2000 word essay explai-

New Guy - "WHY ARE THEY EVEN RUNNING THIS CONTEST. EVERYONE KNOWS FINAL FANTASY AND FORTNITE WILL WIN. ALSO THE GAME THAT IS CURRENTLY WINNING TODAY IS TRASH AND EVERYONE WHO VOTED FOR IT HAS NO TASTE"

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LeonhartFour
05/09/20 5:05:41 PM
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yeah the last topic was weird

we haven't seen random walls of text like that in over a decade
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XIII_rocks
05/09/20 5:16:08 PM
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The strangest thing is the combination of that and the lack of whining topics

It's like people moved away from making topics to complain, and dumped what would have been whining topics in here instead?

Did the stupid whiner seconds game topic cause this?

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CaptainOfCrush
05/09/20 5:19:07 PM
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I don't really mind it. If I have the time, I enjoy responding with sincerity.

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Advokaiser
05/09/20 5:43:48 PM
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So I just informed the most hardcore Dark Souls fangirl I know of to vote in (less than) 3 hours, and how it has come as far as the Quarterfinals. She's a really, really cool girl that gives her followers a lot of love and virtual cookies. We call her "Ta Gaby" (Aunt Gaby). She was fast in responding to my Facebook inbox about it, which shows just how cool she is.

This isn't a rally attempt or anything, it's just me wanting to make her show her love for the Soulsborne franchise.

(Why didn't I inform her since the start of the contest, though?!)

By the way, she also says that Dark Souls II is trash.

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ZenOfThunder
05/09/20 5:48:56 PM
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ZenOfThunder posted...
If you're a fan of ZenOfThunder taking on big projects only a few people enjoy that nobody asked him to do, you'll fucking LOVE this Tier List Maker for all 439 Character Battle Entrants:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/78673754


get ready for the next character battle with this big cumbersome tier list maker! rank by contest strength, personal preference, bonability, literally whatever idgaf why did I do this

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LinkMarioSamus
05/09/20 5:57:45 PM
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There are seriously probably only three games in the whole contest that beat Metroid Prime. Wow.

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CaptainOfCrush
05/09/20 6:06:29 PM
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I think the big three Nintendo games would all beat Prime via SFF. Hell, maybe LBW would manage a win. It would hold its own against the other notable entrants, namely Witcher and Skyrim, and could possibly beat them, but it would be bolstered by the inherent strength GameFAQs breathes into Nintendo when it's up against the big bad west.

I'm curious as to why Metroid Prime has seemingly become the "old versus new" measuring stick we've often used in this topic, as I personally doubt it's aged well. The Prime series has been dormant for 13 years. The last major Metroid release was ten years ago, and it was Other M.

It might be because we think there are like 10 SNES-era games that would slaughter this entire bracket apart from BotW... and if that's the case, we may be right.

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deeewooh
05/09/20 6:06:42 PM
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The whining topics get a lot of track on the system boards. People got mad when Persona beat the Rockstar games

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XIII_rocks
05/09/20 6:09:19 PM
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Looking to the future - think there's any chance at all of a top 25 games thing for the site's 25th anniversary in November? I liked the one in 2005.

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KamikazePotato
05/09/20 6:09:57 PM
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CaptainOfCrush posted...
I'm curious as to why Metroid Prime has seemingly become the "old versus new" measuring stick we've often used in this topic, as I personally doubt it's aged well

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/6153-best-game-ever-day-28-round-3-skyrim-vs-metroid-prime

It's as good a benchmark as anything else, I suppose.

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_SecretSquirrel
05/09/20 6:10:34 PM
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CaptainOfCrush posted...


I'm curious as to why Metroid Prime has seemingly become the "old versus new" measuring stick we've often used in this topic, as I personally doubt it's aged well. The Prime series has been dormant for 13 years. The last major Metroid release was ten years ago, and it was Other M.
I think Prime's got a pretty good case for being consistent. The game has aged pretty well all things considered, and Nintendo's inactivity with the series means they haven't done anything to elevate it or fuck it up.

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Seanchan
05/09/20 6:13:41 PM
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I mean, they're going to put out the Prime trilogy again on Switch before 4 comes out, right?

Other M was a fucking epic disaster but it's not a "Prime" game, so that saves it.

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_SecretSquirrel
05/09/20 6:18:40 PM
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Seanchan posted...
I mean, they're going to put out the Prime trilogy again on Switch before 4 comes out, right?

Other M was a fucking epic disaster but it's not a "Prime" game, so that saves it.
Other M was also before 2015, so we would've seen any damage it caused Prime last time around, and instead it looked stronger than ever.

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MechanicalWall
05/09/20 6:19:10 PM
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_SecretSquirrel posted...
Nintendo's inactivity with the series means they haven't done anything to elevate it or fuck it up.
Yah this is the key. Of Nintendo's major Gamecube-era titles Metroid Prime hasn't had much reason to waver much; it's a very unique game that has yet to been replicated (by Nintendo or otherwise), so it can't be held against anything more recent, either positively or negatively.

Compare that to Sunshine, which was never good period, or Wind Waker, where the Zelda cycle can ebb and flow for or against it at any particular time. Melee is its own strange beast.

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CaptainOfCrush
05/09/20 6:21:20 PM
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All fair points, but I still think three Nintendo games in this bracket beat it. Regarding Witcher, Skyrim, and Persona... maybe none.

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_SecretSquirrel
05/09/20 6:23:09 PM
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CaptainOfCrush posted...
All fair points, but I still think three Nintendo games in this bracket beat it. Regarding Witcher, Skyrim, and Persona... maybe none.
Yeah, I would be a bit more generous with what could beat it. Smash and Odyssey would beat it right now, though Prime would probably win the long game.

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Geiki Ganger
05/09/20 6:25:56 PM
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Does anyone know why the Witcher is such a strong game on GameFAQs? I always thought this site has a negative bias towards Western RPGS.

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MechanicalWall
05/09/20 6:28:23 PM
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Geiki Ganger posted...
Does anyone know why the Witcher is such a strong game on GameFAQs? I always thought this site has a negative bias towards Western RPGS.
I mean Skyrim and other Bethesda games looked amazing in 2015, and Bioware's stuff usually does well. WRPGs might not ever reach the heights of stuff like FFVII but they usually do well enough.

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Leonhart4
05/09/20 6:28:33 PM
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Metroid Prime has been narrowly beaten by the presumptive "most popular western game" in 2010 and in 2015, so it makes sense that it becomes the point of reference for the next big western game.

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WarThaNemesis2
05/09/20 6:28:53 PM
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Geiki Ganger posted...
Does anyone know why the Witcher is such a strong game on GameFAQs? I always thought this site has a negative bias towards Western RPGS.

This site loves RPGs in general, there's just a bias towards stuff that was popular on consoles in the 90s (i.e. JRPGs).

The last decade has been dominated by WRPGs.

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KamikazePotato
05/09/20 6:29:17 PM
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So I saw some people in the last topic trying to make a Top 10 in this contest, and I feel like I'd rather make tiers because of how big the strength gap is between the top and close-to-top games. WITHOUT ranking within tiers:

Breath of the Wild

Witcher 3
Persona 5
Dark Souls
Smash Ultimate
Super Mario Odyssey
Skyrim

God of War

Dragon Quest XI
Mass Effect 2
Resident Evil 2
Xenoblade
Persona 4
Portal 2
The Last of Us
Mario Kart 8
Pokemon HeartGold
Nier Automata
Red Dead Redemption 1/2
Grand Theft Auto V
Fallout: New Vegas
Super Mario Galaxy 2

I think you can make a lot of debatable matches with the games within each grouping. Some probably will object to me putting God of War on its own plateau but I don't trust that Witcher 3 matchup result at all.

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_SecretSquirrel
05/09/20 6:30:20 PM
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MechanicalWall posted...
I mean Skyrim and other Bethesda games looked amazing in 2015, and Bioware's stuff usually does well. WRPGs might not ever reach the heights of stuff like FFVII but they usually do well enough.
Plus, they are in a position to succeed because everything stronger than Witcher 3 and Skyrim was either released before 2010 or is on the other side of the bracket. If this was an all games contest, both games would have been sent packing no later than the Division Finals.

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Seginustemple
05/09/20 6:30:22 PM
#37:


How did we not get a single decent Metroid game in a decade

and F-Zero too man Nintendo has been fucking up
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Leonhart4
05/09/20 6:30:46 PM
#38:


Wow, Skyrim doesn't even make the list at all. Shots fired.

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swirIdude
05/09/20 6:31:14 PM
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Seginustemple posted...
How did we not get a single decent Metroid game in a decade

and F-Zero too man Nintendo has been fucking up

Mario Kart 8 made it to Round 3 though.

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Leonhart4
05/09/20 6:32:21 PM
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To quote Miyamoto (very loosely): "LOL F-Zero, if people really liked those games you'd think they'd have bought them"

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MechanicalWall
05/09/20 6:32:30 PM
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Spamus Returns was pretty good

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ZeldaTPLink
05/09/20 6:36:30 PM
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Seginustemple posted...
How did we not get a single decent Metroid game in a decade

and F-Zero too man Nintendo has been fucking up

People say Samus Returns is great but that's portable so...

Also has F-Zero been relevant at all in this century
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snake_5036
05/09/20 6:39:33 PM
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Leonhart4 posted...
To quote Miyamoto (very loosely): "LOL F-Zero, if people really liked those games you'd think they'd have bought them"
They bought GX! It's just nobody cared about F-Zero on GBA (for good reason, who wants to go back to SNES sprites instead of getting more games that look and play as awesome as GX?) and one of those games was Japan only which would seriously hamper the sales.

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Seginustemple
05/09/20 6:41:34 PM
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F-Zero is always relevant in my heart, Mario Kart is fun but just ain't the same deal

I actually forgot Samus Returns was a thing, never got around to it...
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HaRRicH
05/09/20 6:42:42 PM
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I would take MP to beat LoZ:LBW and Xenoblade...maaaaaybe SMO, who knows..

Metroid as a series isn't so active anymore, but Metroid Prime was ahead of its time for years after its release and there aren't a lot of Nintendo games I would take to beat it that released ever since it came out.

NINTENDO GAMES THAT COULD BEAT METROID PRIME SINCE MP RELEASED:
LoZ: TP (close), WW (maybe), BotW
Smash: Brawl (once upon a time, anyway.....), SSBU
Mario: SMO (close)
Mario Kart: nope
Pokemon: nope
Xenoblade: likely not
Animal Crossing: nope
Splatoon: nope
Wii Sports: nope
Project S.T.E.A.M.: did you remember Nintendo once made Abraham Lincoln a playable character?

Maybe I'm forgetting something, but that's only two games I'm confident takes MP out of the past eighteen years. MP was big enough to earn a trilogy and tease a fourth release on the Switch to great avail. Super Metroid thrashed SMG and took LoZ:MM to the brink while Samus went toe-to-toe against Mario in our last contest. Metroid would do worse in a Series Contest now, but I don't think people here have forgotten the impact of Metroid Prime.

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Lightning Strikes
05/09/20 6:52:53 PM
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A bit late to this, but I still havent forgotten when Allen allowed a TTYD pic for Paper Mario in GotD1. I believe it even got pointed out before it was submitted but there it was.

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Leonhart4
05/09/20 6:54:30 PM
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Lightning Strikes posted...
A bit late to this, but I still havent forgotten when Allen allowed a TTYD pic for Paper Mario in GotD1. I believe it even got pointed out before it was submitted but there it was.

@ZenOfThunder snuck a Rikku fan art past Allen in 2013!

We've had action figures as match pics before, too!

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Lightning Strikes
05/09/20 6:56:53 PM
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Honestly I never had a problem with the action figure - it is official art after all! But my favourite was live action Scorpion that one time.

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KamikazePotato
05/09/20 7:00:43 PM
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I've submitted fan art that made the front page twice, but I only figured out they were fan art after the fact due to how convincing the art styles were.

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HaRRicH
05/09/20 7:02:37 PM
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Leonhart4 posted...
We've had action figures as match pics before, too!

Kratos, right?

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