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UnfairRepresent
05/05/20 6:38:51 PM
#51:


ChuckSDeuces posted...
This shit is months old.

Jenny Nicholson is a fucking airhead that really doesn't deserve any amount of time given to being upset at her, let alone 12 fucking hours.

They didn't talk about her for 12 hours

TC is lying
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MC_BatCommander
05/05/20 10:48:44 PM
#52:


ManaYuka posted...
I did it.

I hate that Jenny bitch. She liked The Last Jedi, so fuck her.

Serioulsy, she does like the Last Jedi, atleast her initial 1st viewing was appreciation for the film.

People are allowed to like things you don't like, relax with the hatred

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MrMallard
05/06/20 2:13:05 AM
#53:


Gotta love that "why are you saying it's about Jenny Nicholson, it's barely even about her!" argument. Even the dipshits in the video tried to pull that one.

Y'know, despite the fact that the video is called "Responding to Jenny Nicholson", it has a derogatory picture of her in the thumbnail, and it's at a length that no sane human being is going to sit through or be able to reliably comb through for a truncated take on the video.

If they didn't want the reputation of making a 12 hour video about Jenny Nicholson, they shouldn't have recorded a 12 hour video and plastered it with Jenny Nicholson's name and face for clicks. Again, it's not a matter of "you didn't watch the video, so you're not giving the people involved a fair chance" - because no sane, rational person is going to watch a barely edited stream party of three douchebags for a combined total of 12 hours.

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Suchomimus
05/06/20 2:16:07 AM
#55:


Shablagoo posted...
...created this 12 hour response video to her 30 minute review of the film?

https://youtu.be/z36YdEZT6Vg

First time watching Mauler? All his videos are absurdly long. He completely dismantled The Force Awakens and The Last Jedi

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Pancake
05/06/20 2:23:56 AM
#56:


But he has a 10 hours response series to an hour long video "defending" Dark Souls 2.

wait, is he defending dark souls 2 or do i have it backwards?
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I4NRulez
05/06/20 2:25:07 AM
#57:


Pancake posted...
But he has a 10 hours response series to an hour long video "defending" Dark Souls 2.

wait, is he defending dark souls 2 or do i have it backwards?

10 hours is too much for either

Its not a bad game but its the worst souls game

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Pancake
05/06/20 2:27:45 AM
#58:


from here it sounds like hbomberguy's video maybe sent him into a melty.
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Umbreon
05/06/20 2:51:35 AM
#59:


Oh come on, let's not exgger-

*Video is actually damn near 12 hours long*

Holy shit.

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Shablagoo
05/06/20 3:15:09 AM
#60:


MrMallard posted...
Gotta love that "why are you saying it's about Jenny Nicholson, it's barely even about her!" argument. Even the dipshits in the video tried to pull that one.

Y'know, despite the fact that the video is called "Responding to Jenny Nicholson", it has a derogatory picture of her in the thumbnail, and it's at a length that no sane human being is going to sit through or be able to reliably comb through for a truncated take on the video.

If they didn't want the reputation of making a 12 hour video about Jenny Nicholson, they shouldn't have recorded a 12 hour video and plastered it with Jenny Nicholson's name and face for clicks. Again, it's not a matter of "you didn't watch the video, so you're not giving the people involved a fair chance" - because no sane, rational person is going to watch a barely edited stream party of three douchebags for a combined total of 12 hours.

Thank you!

LovingPacifist posted...
Well, your heart may have been in the right place, but now that dude is getting more views, when he should really just stay in the back of the internet with the rest of his trash furry fans where he belongs.

Honestly, I think that attacking Jenny, a popular and legit cool Youtuber was probably a strategy to gain more publicity. And you fell for it.

True, and I gained him 2 new super fans in UnfairRepresent and Tenlaar. Shit! :(

Umbreon posted...
Oh come on, let's not exgger-

*Video is actually damn near 12 hours long*

Holy shit.

I know right lol I didnt believe it when I first heard about it either

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Delirious_Beard
05/06/20 7:47:43 AM
#61:


Suchomimus posted...
First time watching Mauler? All his videos are absurdly long. He completely dismantled The Force Awakens and The Last Jedi

not even in bizarro world

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Ivynn
05/06/20 7:53:23 AM
#62:


Who the fuck would watch/listen to 12 hours of that

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NinjaBreakfast
05/06/20 7:59:45 AM
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Delirious_Beard posted...
not even in bizarro world
Maybe he means dismantled in that he broke it into a scene by scene mess of attempted analysis devoid of context and meaning

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Summer_Ashigara
05/06/20 8:06:02 AM
#64:


mauler and rags generate so much edgy incel energy that not even the typical CEman would admit to being a fan. you'll probably find some fans on the playstation boards tho.

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Tenlaar
05/06/20 2:03:23 PM
#65:


Shablagoo posted...
True, and I gained him 2 new super fans in UnfairRepresent and Tenlaar. Shit! :(
Oh hey, look, it's another example of you being fine with lying. How surprising.
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Shablagoo
05/07/20 9:59:52 AM
#66:


Tenlaar posted...
Oh hey, look, it's another example of you being fine with lying. How surprising.

If you watch 12 hours of someones work I think its pretty fair to call you a super fan.

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joe40001
05/07/20 10:03:32 AM
#67:


soulunison2 posted...
jenny nicholson is fine as shit

She is quite attractive. I used to have a thing for her, still sorta do.

Anyway, EFAP has always been like this. Mauler is ok, but he hangs out in a pretty bad echo chamber that just makes him less introspective and more this-ish.

That said I think Joker is a really good movie, and being critical of those who are critical isn't bad, and spending a long time doing things also isn't on it's own bad. Is talking for 12 hours than much more of a waste than playing video games for 12 hours? idk.

When I see things like this I just move on and know most people see this kind of thing for what it is.

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ZevLoveDOOM
05/07/20 10:03:48 AM
#68:


so someone made a 12 hour video just to explain why they disagree with someone's review?

jeez, someone needs to go outside and get some sunl....

well actually, go grab a book or something, i dunno! there's certainly more productive ways to spend your time than this! lol -_-
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MedeaLysistrata
05/07/20 10:06:34 AM
#69:


Shablagoo posted...
If you watch 12 hours of someones work I think its pretty fair to call you a super fan.
Wow

Never read a long book?

Edit: you care about this

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Tenlaar
05/07/20 2:09:54 PM
#70:


Shablagoo posted...
If you watch 12 hours of someones work I think its pretty fair to call you a super fan.
I didn't watch 12 hours of it, I told you very clearly that it only took roughly 20 seconds to skip through the video and see that they spend the first hour talking about a variety of topics that have nothing to do with the woman in question. So once again, you're more interested in lying and making shit up to try to make somebody else look bad than actually taking responsibility for the fact that you post things that just aren't true.
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evil_zombie11
05/07/20 2:12:21 PM
#71:


Shablagoo got them pressed

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MrMallard
05/08/20 2:59:36 AM
#72:


The funny thing about all this is that I actually didn't agree with all of Jenny's points. I do think she went on about "the theme" for a bit too long, I think this movie was trying to be more stylistic than necessarily following a strong thematic path. Bad stuff happens because the universe of Joker is miserable for the sake of being miserable, to back up this assertion that Joker's life is awful. I think that was intentional - Joker is a moody movie. I don't think a movie necessarily has to adhere to a theme if it's going for stylism.

Saying that, I think the movie goes overboard with these scenes. It's entertaining watching Joker climb into a fridge, but it's like three quarters into the movie and there have already been so many scenes of just bad, miserable shit happening that it starts to add up. I was starting to feel fatigued with the movie at the end when things started to pick up - there are too many bleak, moody scenes for the sake of reiterating that Gotham is a shithole, there's like an hour and a half of these purposefully miserable scenes - a lot of them back to back.

They add up, and it makes Joker a taxing watch - not because it's so sad and depressing, but because there's so many moody scenes that only serve to reiterate "Gotham is a shithole and Arthur Fleck is a victim of this", again and again, that after a while you just sort of get it and want the movie to move on.

Then you've got the ralphthemoviemaker review which is outwardly more negative - he makes a very solid case for Joker not just being a Scorcese pastiche, but liberally borrowing plot points from actual Scorcese movies and doing them worse. The King of Comedy sounds like an entertaining distillation of the talk show sideplot in this movie, in that the crazed fan and the talk show host get more of an actual relationship and not just a parasocial relationship that culminates in a real pie-in-the-sky ending where Arthur Fleck goes on his TV show. It's so on the nose that they got Robert De Niro, the fan character in The King of Comedy, to play the talk show host in Joker.

Saying that, I'd take a movie that tries to capture more of a mood and go for a more genuinely artistic angle like Joker than a clunker like Man of Steel or BvS any day. Aside from its overwhelming length and crushing, monotone series of scenes that string each other back to back and hammer the point home ten times harder than they maybe need to, Joker is a decent enough movie. It's a breath of fresh air that will hopefully lead to more low-key character-focused stories, and not shit like Superman 9/11ing an alien threat through like 15 skyscrapers.

I think it's fair to criticise Joker, but I didn't entirely agree with Jenny Nicholson's points. Saying that, it's even stupider to waste an entire day recording a stream party, plastering a critic's face and name all over your video, and then getting defensive when people write the whole unreasonably long video off as an unnecessary and buttmad sledge against someone for not mindlessly enjoying a movie that you loved. They wouldn't have used a picture of her in their thumbnail and mentioned her in the video title if they didn't want people to assume a connection, and no reasonable person is going to try and sift through this mess to determine what percentage of the video they spend talking about Jenny Nicholson. They drew attention to it, so that's the reputation their video gets.

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Shablagoo
05/08/20 3:14:04 AM
#73:


MedeaLysistrata posted...
Wow

Never read a long book?

Edit: you care about this

The books I read are engaging. I wouldnt read a 1,000-page book if it were a critique of a 30-minute YouTube review of a film, no.

evil_zombie11 posted...
Shablagoo got them pressed



@MrMallard thoughtful review, I too enjoyed the movie but the critique about it dragging on in the first 2 acts is valid. I actually had less of a problem with that than most people, I think.

Tenlaar posted...
I didn't watch 12 hours of it, I told you very clearly that it only took roughly 20 seconds to skip through the video and see that they spend the first hour talking about a variety of topics that have nothing to do with the woman in question. So once again, you're more interested in lying and making shit up to try to make somebody else look bad than actually taking responsibility for the fact that you post things that just aren't true.

MrMallard posted...
Saying that, it's even stupider to waste an entire day recording a stream party, plastering a critic's face and name all over your video, and then getting defensive when people write the whole unreasonably long video off as an unnecessary and buttmad sledge against someone for not mindlessly enjoying a movie that you loved. They wouldn't have used a picture of her in their thumbnail and mentioned her in the video title if they didn't want people to assume a connection, and no reasonable person is going to try and sift through this mess to determine what percentage of the video they spend talking about Jenny Nicholson. They drew attention to it, so that's the reputation their video gets.


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Shablagoo
05/10/20 6:19:40 AM
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BettyB0op08 posted...
Thats really cool.


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IShall_Run_Amok
05/10/20 8:57:20 AM
#76:


I'm glad people are moving on to "you've never read a long book, huh?" levels of defense for mauLer, because it means the pretense of him having even the slightest grasp of film analysis is getting flimsier and flimsier.

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Mecha Sonic
05/10/20 9:08:31 AM
#77:


dude jenny nicholson is a GREAT youtuber i watch her all the time

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joe40001
05/10/20 10:30:14 AM
#78:


Hearing an attractive young girl complain about Joker makes me feel like how I imagine gay black men feel when they hear old white men complain about "Moonlight".

They don't get it, this movie isn't for them.

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IShall_Run_Amok
05/10/20 10:38:22 AM
#79:


As an angry working class white man, The Joker feels like a rich white man telling me what he thinks I should feel like.

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Turbam
05/10/20 10:46:08 AM
#80:


SSJGrimReaper posted...
never trust a grown man with a furry or underage looking anime girl avatar
What about an underage looking anime boy avatar?

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joe40001
05/10/20 11:05:04 AM
#81:


IShall_Run_Amok posted...
As an angry working class white man, The Joker feels like a rich white man telling me what he thinks I should feel like.

You aren't depressed enough then.

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Shablagoo
05/10/20 12:26:35 PM
#82:


joe40001 posted...
You aren't depressed enough then.

haha, I suppose it depends on how exactly you 2 are respectively interpreting the film, or what angle youre looking at it from.

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Anteaterking
05/10/20 12:42:39 PM
#83:


joe40001 posted...
Hearing an attractive young girl complain about Joker makes me feel like how I imagine gay black men feel when they hear old white men complain about "Moonlight".

They don't get it, this movie isn't for them.

Just because Moonlight is *about* a gay black man doesn't mean that it's only for gay black men.

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NinjaBreakfast
05/10/20 12:55:52 PM
#84:


joe40001 posted...
Hearing an attractive young girl complain about Joker makes me feel like how I imagine gay black men feel when they hear old white men complain about "Moonlight".

They don't get it, this movie isn't for them.
hahahaha holy shit

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MC_BatCommander
05/10/20 3:47:29 PM
#85:


joe40001 posted...
Hearing an attractive young girl complain about Joker makes me feel like how I imagine gay black men feel when they hear old white men complain about "Moonlight".

They don't get it, this movie isn't for them.

this is the most hilarious shitpost I've seen in a while

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joe40001
05/10/20 5:54:40 PM
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lol

It's funny because it's kinda how I actually feel.

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Shablagoo
05/10/20 6:30:28 PM
#88:


lmbo

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Shablagoo
05/11/20 12:10:00 PM
#89:


IShall_Run_Amok posted...
I'm glad people are moving on to "you've never read a long book, huh?" levels of defense for mauLer, because it means the pretense of him having even the slightest grasp of film analysis is getting flimsier and flimsier.

Right lol

Mecha Sonic posted...
dude jenny nicholson is a GREAT youtuber i watch her all the time

Yeah I like her too

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Prestoff
05/11/20 2:42:21 PM
#90:


joe40001 posted...
Hearing an attractive young girl complain about Joker makes me feel like how I imagine gay black men feel when they hear old white men complain about "Moonlight".

They don't get it, this movie isn't for them.

This posts reminds me of those SJW's that says "You don't know anything about woman rights because you're a cisgender hetero white male!"

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joe40001
05/11/20 10:54:39 PM
#91:


Prestoff posted...
This posts reminds me of those SJW's that says "You don't know anything about woman rights because you're a cisgender heterosexual chrsitian white male!"

Yep, non-depressed people being critical of joker is like the only time I like 1% understood what those people were arguing lol

Joker and "The Wrestler" are the 2 movies that really spoke to me in this way.

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cjsdowg
05/14/20 6:32:37 AM
#93:


Mauler got famous for speaking about that horrible TLJ movie, and so now his thing is making these long rants about anything that is popular no matter if he gets things right or wrong in them .

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Summer_Ashigara
05/14/20 6:46:24 AM
#94:


joe40001 posted...
Hearing an attractive young girl complain about Joker makes me feel like how I imagine gay black men feel when they hear old white men complain about "Moonlight".

They don't get it, this movie isn't for them.
god there's SO much to unpack here

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