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Doom_Art
05/03/20 12:29:43 PM
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...a trilogy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBMqJ9mQKpI

wtf is this shit

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EnterTheTekken
05/03/20 12:30:15 PM
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Force Awakens > ROTJ.

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TommyG663513
05/03/20 12:31:33 PM
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It can be way worse.

RotJ is at least acceptable

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Phantom36
05/03/20 12:32:46 PM
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Kind of liked it better. Edits made it too flashy for my taste. Sticking in unheard-from planets and societies since like ep. 2 or 3 is also a bit confusing.

I for one prefer the original versions without all the damn edits. You're trying to pay attention the story and some CGI monster is just randomly fudged into the scene and it's distracting as hell.

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treewojima
05/03/20 12:32:54 PM
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That's the one I grew up with. Yub Nub is garbage, but the rest ain't bad
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Doom_Art
05/03/20 12:33:00 PM
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Hairistotle posted...
Wait, they changed the ending of 6 too? To what?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlCFPo6YYbU

new musical score, inserted clips of other planets in the galaxy (bespin, naboo, tattooine, coruscant) all celebrating and overthrowing the Empire, and replaced sebastian shaw with hayden christensen

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ChuckSDeuces
05/03/20 12:34:51 PM
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The Rise of Skywalker was a pretty shit ending to a saga tbqh

Star Wars has never been good at sticking the landing.

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Phantom36
05/03/20 12:35:25 PM
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Editing out Sebastian Shaw for Hayden Christensen is a big middle finger to Shaw too, another reason the original is better.

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treewojima
05/03/20 12:36:33 PM
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Personally I'll take the new music and leave everything else stock, it's about the only change to the scene that was an improvement
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UnholyMudcrab
05/03/20 12:37:05 PM
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Sounds like someone needs a little more Yub Nub in their life
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Doom_Art
05/03/20 12:37:12 PM
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Phantom36 posted...
Editing out Sebastian Shaw for Hayden Christensen is a big middle finger to Shaw too, another reason the original is better.
There's the "sweet spot" 1997 edit which has all the positive changes i mentioned but keeps Sebastian Shaw as an older Anakin. That's my preferred version.

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KillerSlaw
05/03/20 12:37:22 PM
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TBF wasn't it originally not supposed to be the ending?

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ApherosyLove
05/03/20 12:39:07 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
and replaced sebastian shaw with hayden christensen
The X-Men villain..?

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Doom_Art
05/03/20 12:40:02 PM
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KillerSlaw posted...
TBF wasn't it originally not supposed to be the ending?
I know Lucas originally wanted to do 7, 8, and 9 like right away but I don't know if he changed his mind (the first time) before or after RotJ

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Phantom36
05/03/20 12:41:23 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
There's the "sweet spot" 1997 edit which has all the positive changes i mentioned but keeps Sebastian Shaw as an older Anakin. That's my preferred version.

I could concur with this.

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treewojima
05/03/20 12:45:38 PM
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Honestly, the Harmy despecialized editions are great. They strip out most of the gaudy CGI, leave some of the touch ups (like fixing the hovering effect of the land speeder), and source the best quality footage they can find for the HD remaster. They're the best theatrical experience you can get outside of an original LaserDisc pressing.

Only problem is, they're teeeeechnically copyright infringement
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Phantom36
05/03/20 1:07:50 PM
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treewojima posted...
Honestly, the Harmy despecialized editions are great. They strip out most of the gaudy CGI, leave some of the touch ups (like fixing the hovering effect of the land speeder), and source the best quality footage they can find for the HD remaster. They're the best theatrical experience you can get outside of an original LaserDisc pressing.

Only problem is, they're teeeeechnically copyright infringement

I heard about this version but because of the copyright issues the way you have to go about downloading and obtaining this was too much of a hassle for a novice computer user such as myself.

I heard Disney originally wanted to re-release the theatrical versions, but the original negatives are too damaged. Best you can do is the 2006 DVD release and they're of pretty bad quality iirc.


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andri_g
05/03/20 6:08:14 PM
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Phantom36 posted...
Editing out Sebastian Shaw for Hayden Christensen is a big middle finger to Shaw too, another reason the original is better.
It's inconsistent! If "Young Anakin" could force his way into the celebration, then Young Jedi Kenobi and Jedi Counsel Master Yoda should have been there, too. It's not rocket surgery.

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Phantom36
05/03/20 6:34:08 PM
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andri_g posted...
It's inconsistent! If "Young Anakin" could force his way into the celebration, then Young Jedi Kenobi and Jedi Counsel Master Yoda should have been there, too. It's not rocket surgery.

Not only that but the version of Anakin to finally see Luke with own eyes was old Anakin, putting young Anakin in that scene makes no sense even if you were to edit Obi-Wan to be Ewan McGregor in that final scene too

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andri_g
05/03/20 7:06:11 PM
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Phantom36 posted...
putting young Anakin in that scene makes no sense even if you were to edit Obi-Wan to be Ewan McGregor in that final scene too
I mean force as in "to barge in" not "to channel via the Force", but that ship has sailed. <P

And, yes, I agree. Luke never saw the young(er) versions of those characters; any of those versions appearing to Luke at that point wouldn't make any sense.

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Southernfatman
05/03/20 7:08:26 PM
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With Hayden Anakin being there I think at that point Lucas was just trolling. Same for "nooo!" and "Mclunky!".



He knows what he's doing.

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joe40001
05/03/20 7:14:57 PM
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treewojima posted...
That's the one I grew up with. Yub Nub is garbage, but the rest ain't bad

Yub Nub is amazing, you take that back.

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lilORANG
05/03/20 7:17:13 PM
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The Hayden edit was a good thing. Thre I said it. Nobody knows who tf Shaw is. Just a random old man. At least Hayden is actually anakin.
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joe40001
05/03/20 7:21:35 PM
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lilORANG posted...
The Hayden edit was a good thing. Thre I said it. Nobody knows who tf Shaw is. Just a random old man. At least Hayden is actually anakin.

Yeah but Luke would have no fucking idea what his dad looked like when he was born.

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lilORANG
05/03/20 7:22:54 PM
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joe40001 posted...


Yeah but Luke would have no fucking idea what his dad looked like when he was born.


He also doesn't know his dad unscarred looks like Shaw. He knows the ghost is his dad bc he's with Yoda and Obi.
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NeoDhaos
05/03/20 7:31:24 PM
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The new celebration music in Jedi was the only change made in 1997 that I appreciated. I'm normally a purist for Star Wars, but even I'll admit this was better.
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NeoDhaos
05/03/20 9:38:51 PM
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ClunkerSlim posted...
Gross. No.
Yub Nub forever.
I love both.

But sorry, the 97 song is better.
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treewojima
05/03/20 9:40:45 PM
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lilORANG posted...
The Hayden edit was a good thing. Thre I said it. Nobody knows who tf Shaw is. Just a random old man. At least Hayden is actually anakin.

Not 15 minutes earlier he pulled Vader's helmet off and saw him for the first time. Scarred or not, it's super easy for the viewer to infer who the new Force ghost was. I got it when I was a kid that wore out my OG VHS copies.
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Scotty_Rogers
05/03/20 9:42:45 PM
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The original ending was fine. None of the edits were necessary.

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Scotty_Rogers
05/03/20 9:45:28 PM
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lilORANG posted...
The Hayden edit was a good thing. Thre I said it. Nobody knows who tf Shaw is. Just a random old man. At least Hayden is actually anakin.

It wasn't an issue at all when RotJ first came out, which is all that matters. None of the later BS in the franchise retroactively take away from the things that the OT did right; everything that came after is garbage that should be disregarded. Just watch the original trilogy; watch the other stuff later only if you want to subject yourself to garbage.

And don't get me wrong, RotJ is also trash, but the Luke and Vader stuff at the end is good.

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InTheEyesOfFire
05/03/20 9:45:49 PM
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Phantom36 posted...
Editing out Sebastian Shaw for Hayden Christensen is a big middle finger to Shaw too, another reason the original is better.


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AlisLandale
05/03/20 9:49:35 PM
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I...dont understand what the problem with this one is?

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Blue_Inigo
05/03/20 9:49:46 PM
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Ewoks are fucking stupid

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lilORANG
05/03/20 11:58:28 PM
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treewojima posted...


Not 15 minutes earlier he pulled Vader's helmet off and saw him for the first time. Scarred or not, it's super easy for the viewer to infer who the new Force ghost was. I got it when I was a kid that wore out my OG VHS copies.


Yah, no shit. It's not supposed to be hard to infer. But Shaw doesn't look like burnt up Vader lol.
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SpaceBear_
05/04/20 12:32:50 AM
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Makes sense to put Anakin in tbf. Sebastian Shaw might as well be James Earl Jones.

I expected to be defending Yub Nub, but after watching both links, it's awful.

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Mistere Man
05/04/20 12:37:26 AM
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Blue_Inigo posted...
Ewoks are fucking stupid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZ0wZMgEM6c

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cymbaline
05/04/20 12:39:19 AM
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Blue_Inigo posted...
Ewoks are fucking stupid
You take that back

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Doom_Art
05/04/20 12:40:24 AM
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ewoks are masters of asymmetrical warfare

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