Board 8 > Percussion Mafia Topic 6 - Sextuplet or Sixtuplet?

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Fastbreak posted...

oh plum is starscream

I liked starscream

what? How?

htaeD posted...

What? I am not even at the wanting-to-lynch-anyone stage yet.

Yeah, this is what is setting off alarm bells to me. I think there is a lot of interest in lynching scare but he has like 2 votes with 36 hours left. What is he doing? Why would he act like this?

I cant figure out if it is scum being frustrated they fell into a flavor trap or genuine obstinateness

From my brief recollection of scare, I remember him being pisses when he was caught as scum doing nothing wrong. I could see that being the situation here. Scare feels he has played a good scum game and he is getting caught due to outside influences.


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I wouldnt really call Scare's game good up until he made the copclaim. I did like him more afterwards though. Scare is honestly a pretty good scumplayer.
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masterplum posted...

what? How?

Yeah, this is what is setting off alarm bells to me. I think there is a lot of interest in lynching scare but he has like 2 votes with 36 hours left. What is he doing? Why would he act like this?

I cant figure out if it is scum being frustrated they fell into a flavor trap or genuine obstinateness

From my brief recollection of scare, I remember him being pisses when he was caught as scum doing nothing wrong. I could see that being the situation here. Scare feels he has played a good scum game and he is getting caught due to outside influences.

I don't disagree.

But, play-wise I have felt scare was town.

I just cannot see past Lea being scum and he is the voucher for her being town, conveniently after a scanner had information damning her unless a voucher existed.

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Didnt scare say he scanned lea tow

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Yesterday was a pretty good lesson on why being obstinate is not a good idea. It would be much appreciated if everyone could be cooperative even if you find it stupid.

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Did scare explain why he scanned lea?

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I want to say I do recall seeing some reasoning earlier.

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htaeD posted...

I didnt.
Why did you?

About star?

He nailed my thoughts with tange day 1 where my pov was. It showed he was trying to solve my slot

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htaeD posted...

I wouldnt really call Scare's game good up until he made the copclaim. I did like him more afterwards though. Scare is honestly a pretty good scumplayer.

My play was purposely trying to be out of the picture. I thought red was scum too but I laid the fuck off him because he *always* kills me as scum so I didn't vote him as much as I could to avoid him looking my way if he was scum

If he did kill me I even made it clear in 2 separate posts that Damion was my scan if someone went searching

My play was fine and effective except for tange tunnel vision causing everyone to go nuts

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Death is claiming an almost functionally identical role to Panthera's claim, and one that directly points to the existence of noise detector. How did Death react to Uwnim's claim initially?

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htaeD posted...

Also Chris is right, no way a Puns scumteam lets a fake Motion Detector claim go through.

Still not sure when Motion Detectors became a thing though.

This was Death's only response to the claim. Calls the claim town without drawing attention to himself.

It adds up.

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Votals
[2] Scare - Tange, Sultan
[1] Balla - (Lea), DYL, (Scare)
[1] Plum - Crescent
[1] Hb - Corrik, (MZero)
[0] Tange - (Damion), (Scare)
[0] Lea - (Plum)

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Death not having a toy from Chris is odd

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Did Dyl post yet

He could have it i guess

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DYL immediately voted Balla, then went back off into the wilderness.

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Panthera does need a little re-evalation methinks.

Fastbreak posted...

Death not having a toy from Chris is odd

I know right?
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Cant even spell right anymore.

Anyway, time to get some REMAKE gameplay done.
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Someone making me paranoid role blocker last night means he could have tried to give it to me

But I don't think he would give it to me? Unless the cowbell worked through death or something

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Crescent-Moon posted...

This was Death's only response to the claim. Calls the claim town without drawing attention to himself.

It adds up.

To be fair, I did briefly wonder if motion detector made sense along with a tracker already being claimed. But then I didnt even expect Motion detector ever becoming real, lol.
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Fastbreak posted...

Someone making me paranoid role blocker last night means he could have tried to give it to me

But I don't think he would give it to me? Unless the cowbell worked through death or something

He could have assumed protection would save you over anyone else.
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Why would scum make you untargetable. Why would they expect town to Target you. Only way scum made you untargetable is if scum planned to claim they tried to target you and couldn't.

Or... Scum can nullify roles with giving them passives (which means scare was given the nullification night 1 before he claimed the cop role, which makes him an invincible cop).

Lmfao.

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htaeD posted...

Panthera does need a little re-evalation methinks.

I know right?

Panthera has done nothing this game other than get wagoned by Puns. I'm not sure he's even done enough since the start of day 2 to justify not being called an inactive.

Balla being more mellow after Tange's claim today its kind of weirding me out a bit, though DYL has contributed nothing to the day aside from a vote on him.

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Fastbreak posted...

Someone making me paranoid role blocker last night means he could have tried to give it to me

But I don't think he would give it to me? Unless the cowbell worked through death or something

Chris had no roleblock on his list.

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htaeD posted...

To be fair, I did briefly wonder if motion detector made sense along with a tracker already being claimed. But then I didnt even expect Motion detector ever becoming real, lol.

The only difference between Panthera's claim and yours is his is affected by tracker and yours isn't.

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htaeD posted...

He could have assumed protection would save you over anyone else.

Then you play the cup game of "does doc save cop or save chris." And the answer should be cop so you swerve save Chris

But that could be debated for days and no conclusion so

If dyl doesn't claim it I am going to assume he tried to give it to me and he was stopped from whatever messed with me last night.

I don't expect Chris to give something like that to scum. He had to have had a strong town read

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Crescent-Moon posted...

Chris had no roleblock on his list.

No, I'm saying that if tange and hb both failed/ were blocked targeting me then I was tampered with. So for sake of statement I was turned into a paranoid role blocker is the assumption I'm running on

So if Chris targeted me it would have failed also

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Even if Chris strongly believed you to be town, I think he wouldn't give you a power because you might die. Tange was a perfect person to gift night 1 because.. Who shoots Tange?

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Just for the record, Panth's claim means that all motion detectors are pointless and have invalid results regardless of what goes on.

He is saying he can go anywhere and not know it.

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This makes Panth's role a detriment to town to even exist in any fashion.

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Which means that Panth is either not town or Panth is a good lynch even if town. To effectively not negate motion detectors (let's assume both are town for giggles), then Sultan has to track Panth every single night.

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And Panth's role usually works where you pick someone you go or you don't but it tells you where you walk to I believe. A total RNG role is unlikely... Remember RNG is bad for mafia and good hosts don't use them.

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hyper bomb

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I still have an issue with being one of the last people to claim, then claiming that role.

We had two claims that could negatively interact with the role he's claiming very early on day 2. He also voiced no opinion on Uwnim's claim, unlike Death.

Need to see how he reacted to Sultan.

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Oh. It's right at the start of topic 2.


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"I'm not sold on Sultan's claim because the whole "I'll same time with someone random oh Chris volunteered well uh never mind I'm tracker" routine did not feel like a way town power actually approaches claiming but risk/reward favours not pursuing it for now"


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Panthera easily has more posts in the first 3 pages of topic 2 than he has in all of topics 3-6 combined, but nothing else I noted as a quick reaction on Sultan. Shaded the claim because of the way it was claimed, but didn't pursue it. Doesn't say a whole lot really.

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Crescent-Moon posted...

"I'm not sold on Sultan's claim because the whole "I'll same time with someone random oh Chris volunteered well uh never mind I'm tracker" routine did not feel like a way town power actually approaches claiming but risk/reward favours not pursuing it for now"

This happened?

we should totally kill him

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masterplum posted...

This happened?

we should totally kill him

It's a direct quote from his post at the start of topic 2. My first thought was to dislike it. Then my second thought was it really didn't say anything in any direction.

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I will Lynch Panthera, Lea, or scare today I believe.

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masterplum posted...

This happened?

we should totally kill him

it did happen, but when I scanned him, tracker DID come up as one of the roles

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Fastbreak posted...

I've given you 3 town. 2 scans and a tange with a head so far up his ass that he can't see the light of day.

except that when you flip scum, your supposed scans mean absolutely nothing

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DoubleTangicide posted...

it did happen, but when I scanned him, tracker DID come up as one of the roles

also to expound on this, in case you missed the post, I get 3 roles when I scan someone. All roles are on a list of 36 roles that may or may not be in the game. One of the roles I am given is the correct role.

i was given tracker, mayor and roleblocker

so either I have the absolute worst luck imaginable to have sultan actually be roleblocker and I happened to get tracker as well

or sultan is tracker

I find it considerably more likely that its the latter

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DoubleTangicide posted...

also to expound on this, in case you missed the post, I get 3 roles when I scan someone. All roles are on a list of 36 roles that may or may not be in the game. One of the roles I am given is the correct role.

i was given tracker, mayor and roleblocker

so either I have the absolute worst luck imaginable to have sultan actually be roleblocker and I happened to get tracker as well

or sultan is tracker

I find it considerably more likely that its the latter

Roleblocker is not possible if he targeted me, since my action went off.

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I had forgotten that

that makes sultan OFFICIALLY 100% town

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Scum tracker?

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DoubleTangicide posted...

also to expound on this, in case you missed the post, I get 3 roles when I scan someone. All roles are on a list of 36 roles that may or may not be in the game. One of the roles I am given is the correct role.

That makes me feel more likely that there are no vanilla people, town or scum.

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I suspected he might be scum tracker before the day even went up.

To call him "officially 100% town" is patently false.

The only thing he's officially 100% is tracker.

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There still isn't any reason to discuss lynching him today, he's simply not confirmed town.

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Two people claiming two different motion-related milleresque roles makes me very suspicious.
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