Board 8 > Percussion Mafia Topic 6 - Sextuplet or Sixtuplet?

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I do think multiple motion detectors is possible.
Heck in this game I could even see a third one.
Its just that I dont trust Plum.
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Oh.

12:4
10:4
8:4
6:4
4:4

4 mislynchs.

11:4
9:4
7:4
5:4
3:4

4 mislynchs. So 4 mislynchs regardless whether 15 or 16.

Scum is basically in a very bad spot right now.


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htaeD posted...

I do think multiple motion detectors is possible.
Heck in this game I could even see a third one.
Its just that I dont trust Plum.

All the motion detectors are verified actionwise as their movement claims being right.

I think Scare is lying about visiting Lea though and Lea is scum.

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Lea: If dies she remains in the game but cannot vote. Can't be killed again.

Mzero: If dies, he lives and can still vote. Can die again permanently.

These roles are so similar.

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Sidenote: Chris's ability to give a 1 time bombproof doesn't make sense unless there is more bombs.

Because the bomb Hyperbomb is likely to go off day 1 and he can't give out the bomb protection til a nightphase.

Assuming it's not a misdirection vanilla power.

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When did Mzero claim that?

I caught Lea's claim by now, but not his.

Hmm. On one hand we are far ahead enough to afford a test (on Mzero at least). On the other hand if Mzero is town, we still go down to even numbers and lose a day regardless.
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htaeD posted...

When did Mzero claim that?

I caught Lea's claim by now, but not his.

Hmm. On one hand we are far ahead enough to afford a test (on Mzero at least). On the other hand if Mzero is town, we still go down to even numbers and lose a day regardless.

When he claimed 1 time deathproof? Or 1 time revive or whatever he claimed. He said he wouldn't die 1 time to anything used on him.

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Ah that. I dont know if he is claiming lynchproof there as well.

Mzero?
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htaeD posted...

Ah that. I dont know if he is claiming lynchproof there as well.

Mzero?

I doubt he is saying he is lynchproof, but it is basically unlikely these roles exist together as town regardless.

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I am 1-shot Deathproof. Includes lynches

If for whatever reason I was shot Night 1 though it's gone (I would not be informed if shot at night)

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Well, then Lea and him don't exist together even more then lol.

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You would not be informed?
That sounds unrealistically unfair.

Though If you are town, I doubt you were shot by scum already.
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And while yes, my gut is telling me to trust the technically-a-counterclaim more. What would this make Lea who wanted us to kill her?
Even in this game I dont expect a role that helps scum when they are lynched... at least not with hyperbomb already existing.
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htaeD posted...

You would not be informed?
That sounds unrealistically unfair.

Though If you are town, I doubt you were shot by scum already.

That's pretty much how it always works, Death.

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How many people were in this game? 20?

Have we considered Hyperbomb could make the scum team 7 large. Bare with me on this. No extra kill. Let's say Mzero is town.

Hyperbomb forces scum to 1 for 1. No way Ben goes all game without being voted once. (And it possibly could not even kill town if Mzero voted it or if the Bombproof for Chris voted it).

So assuming the 1 for 1...

6/18 after?

I mean, it is unlikely but...

12/6
10/6
8/6
6/6

It is unlikely but puts it at 3 mislynchs with anyone 1 save or say mzero eating a kill anywhere as making it 4 mislynchs.

Unlikely, but we have to remember that the Hyperbomb role literally was a scum detriment role, despite it punishing town for voting right.

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I doubt it too, which is why I didn't bring it up when there was no N1 kill

But I did clarify if I would be informed

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I have not ruled out 7 scum, as Town seems to have a lot of power

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Corrik7 posted...

That's pretty much how it always works, Death.

I guess.
I think I've had this discussion before, but every time I keep forgetting my perspective is the incorrect one.
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So far there hasnt been much extra killing power either. Since the bomb could be basically called a really quick scumlynch and nightkill.
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Crescent-Moon posted...

I'm more ok with lynching Scare than with lynching Hb solely because Hb claimed responsibility for the night 1 no kill.

And I really feel wary of Plum getting this snowball rolling and not being part of the result.

I went to bed

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Death, do you want to claim?

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Im leaning sultan and scare as most likely scum currently.

Not sure I put any stock in that slip mentioned earlier. Ive done that as town before. Going to look at old votals

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I hesitated because I was not sure I wanted to give scum more info.
But I guess I already gave away that I am not protection.

Funny Sounding Auxiliary Percussion, TOWN Noisemaker.
It will always look like I am being visited, even when I am not.
I didnt really understand the point of that, since as far as I checked, it doesnt specifically make it look like an actual player visited me. Thought I was just a renamed nilla at first.

But I realized (a little too slowly) that it probably is supposed to be FUN interaction with the motion detector. (detectors?)
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I cant believe that town would not have either a cop or a tracker.

Granted, I am also puzzled by Sultan being unblocked night1 and night2.
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htaeD posted...

I cant believe that town would not have either a cop or a tracker.

Granted, I am also puzzled by Sultan being unblocked night1 and night2.

He was redirected N1 though by something

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Corrik7 posted...

I think Scare is the likeliest liar of the bunch of scanners. Motion detectors are weak scanners. HB has a roleblock... Weak protection/scanning potential. Cop has 1 time cop scan he can give out. Weakened cop. Tracker is relatively a weak scanning role. Flavor cop is essentially useless scanning role. And detective is in weakened form as a scanning role.

Then there is Cop. 3rd strongest scanning role unadultered.

Then add in that Tange said his cop scan says "Scum or Town" as a result. Which doesn't leave open the possibility of a third party. While Scare says his scan says if "Town or not" which does leave open the possibility of a third party. These don't seem consistent.

Then add in 2 people failed targeting scare. And that Scare is the only thing propping up Lea as okay by the motion detector claim (yet Lea's role is redundant with Mzeros role - both can die and live.).

I never clarified anything about my mechanics and how its worded regarding town scum stuff. Where are you getting that from because you are making it up

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htaeD posted...

I cant believe that town would not have either a cop or a tracker.

Granted, I am also puzzled by Sultan being unblocked night1 and night2.

*Points at setup*

This is a joke game. Im less likely to trust non joke roles claimed before it was fully apparent.


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Right. Corrik said he targeted someone other than Red too, so it cant have been a single busdriver.

Yesterday I did think maybe scum had a role that forced Sultan too target someone they wanted him to target. But I would hope such a role could only target one player in a phase.
On the other hand, if its the work of 2 roles, it seems too coincidental that both would lead players to Uwnim.

And did I miss anyone claiming to have been redirected last night too? Maybe it was just a oneshot power.
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I will admit
Just Cop and Just Tracker is remarkably boring.
But Inventor is not that outlandish either.
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Scare, can you clarify for us now?
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Fastbreak posted...

I never clarified anything about my mechanics and how its worded regarding town scum stuff. Where are you getting that from because you are making it up

Hold on, I can find it eventually I am sure.

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htaeD posted...

I will admit
Just Cop and Just Tracker is remarkably boring.
But Inventor is not that outlandish either.

Its not outlandish but its still in the not generally in games category.

Im not saying I instantly disbelieve all normal claims. Im saying its mighty convenient that the two most normal roles claimed were claimed before the pseudo mass.


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you guys are so focused on what the claims are and trying to say "oh no this role doesn't fit" in a game with hyper bomb

You're all nuts

You lynched one cop yesterday and now you want to lynch another

No one is trying to solve anyone besides crescent. Everyone is just sucking their own meta off and patting themselves on the back


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htaeD posted...

Scare, can you clarify for us now?

No. I'm not going to bother trying to give you people more to meta in a game that has no business being meta'd in the first place

This is playing the host and not the players and there's no game

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Fastbreak posted...

you guys are so focused on what the claims are and trying to say "oh no this role doesn't fit" in a game with hyper bomb

You're all nuts

You lynched one cop yesterday and now you want to lynch another

No one is trying to solve anyone besides crescent. Everyone is just sucking their own meta off and patting themselves on the back

If you want to do some hard hitting research nobody is stopping you

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ScareChan posted...

nothing in my role suggests I should roleblock or be untouchable?

flavor is bluedevils. I'm the best and can see who is worth being on the winning team so I know who is good and who isnt

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Oh wait thats Scare?

oh that is an awful post coming from scare

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Tange is specifically Town or Scum. Suggesting no third party. You said yours is town or not.

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masterplum posted...

If you want to do some hard hitting research nobody is stopping you

I've given you 3 town. 2 scans and a tange with a head so far up his ass that he can't see the light of day. You were uwnim right? He was town too

But this game has not delivered on the FUN and I'm not going to keep defending myself

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Corrik7 posted...

Tange is specifically Town or Scum. Suggesting no third party. You said yours is town or not.

This could be completely meaningless. Some people just say things

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masterplum posted...

This could be completely meaningless. Some people just say things

... Sure... Anything could be meaningless and not mean anything. Or it could. Lol?

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Corrik that is heavily paraphrased flavor

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Fastbreak posted...

No. I'm not going to bother trying to give you people more to meta in a game that has no business being meta'd in the first place

This is playing the host and not the players and there's no game

I was just trying to be reasonable. I didnt see how it would be hard to say 'I scan someone as town or scum'
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Fastbreak posted...

I've given you 3 town. 2 scans and a tange with a head so far up his ass that he can't see the light of day. You were uwnim right? He was town too

But this game has not delivered on the FUN and I'm not going to keep defending myself

Uwnim is not plum.

Also, Scare is literally whining now.

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Fastbreak posted...

Corrik that is heavily paraphrased flavor

At the very least this is the answer I expected.
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Fastbreak posted...

Corrik that is heavily paraphrased flavor

It directly contradicts your previous statement, and you refuse to clarify it for people anyways.

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I am whining because I half wake up to see even death is considering lynching me

You guys are listening to someone who somehow still doesn't understand parity means the game is over but is sure that you should lynch the cop

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What? I am not even at the wanting-to-lynch-anyone stage yet.
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oh plum is starscream

I liked starscream

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I didnt.
Why did you?
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