Board 8 > Percussion Mafia Topic 6 - Sextuplet or Sixtuplet?

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Corrik7 posted...

We just had a game recently where the roleblocks and such all said action failed. Depends on host for that.

Which game was that?

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Corrik7 posted...

We can't say HB saved Chris

I did not say this.
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Hbthebattle posted...

It told me "failed". I assumed that meant RB'd.

Why did it take you so long to claim your targets?

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HB: "I'm not doctor"
Game: "HB Didn't save Chris"
HB: "I didn't say I didn't save Chris"

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Corrik7 posted...

HB: "I'm not doctor"
Game: "HB Didn't save Chris"
HB: "I didn't say I didn't save Chris"

This is what we're currently reading it looks like

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Crescent-Moon posted...

Which game was that?

The game I said I got action failed and Red did also and Han was scum we both failed on.

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Wait me and Mzero failed on Han. Red roleblocked Mzero. Han roleblocked me.

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What this all boils down to me is this:

do you believe that in this game town has:
a detective
a flavor scanner
a role that can give out cop scans
AND a cop?

no way.

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Corrik7 posted...

The game I said I got action failed and Red did also and Han was scum we both failed on.

So.. It's possible failed just meant roleblocked?

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DoubleTangicide posted...

What this all boils down to me is this:

do you believe that in this game town has:
a detective
a flavor scanner
a role that can give out cop scans
AND a cop?

no way.

and 2 motion detectors and a tracker.

Come on, bud. Get it all in there.

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DoubleTangicide posted...

What this all boils down to me is this:

do you believe that in this game town has:
a detective
a flavor scanner
a role that can give out cop scans
AND a cop?

no way.

There's also a claimed tracker and two claimed motion detectors.

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Crescent-Moon posted...

Why did it take you so long to claim your targets?

What do you mean? I claimed them right after Corrik asked me to.
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Crescent-Moon posted...

So.. It's possible failed just meant roleblocked?

It did. I am saying, we had a game recently where it was that way so HB assuming it was that way, doesn't necessarily not make sense.


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Im just using the scanning roles

motion detector and tracker are far less valuable than the others I listed

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Hbthebattle posted...

What do you mean? I claimed them right after Corrik asked me to.

Why didn't you claim them the moment you claimed roleblocked? What was the point in holding back?

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Whether you value them or not doesn't make them not scanning roles.

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DoubleTangicide posted...

Im just using the scanning roles

motion detector and tracker are far less valuable than the others I listed

Red's role was likely completely useless.

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HB time to claim fully. Or you die today. You can be red or you can not be red if you are town.

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Crescent-Moon posted...

Why didn't you claim them the moment you claimed roleblocked? What was the point in holding back?

As (moslty) protection, I think its in town's best interest for me to avoid claiming more than I have to.
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Corrik7 posted...

HB time to claim fully. Or you die today. You can be red or you can not be red if you are town.

Jack with a Doc/BG/RB. I used the doc on Chris and the BG on Scare, which is where my action failed.
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there is not a letter, word, phrase, sentence, paragraph, page, book, novel, dissertation or epic poem that can convince me that scare is town

he is scum. We have him. He should be lynched today.

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Hbthebattle posted...

As (moslty) protection, I think its in town's best interest for me to avoid claiming more than I have to.

You are alrdy outted if protection. Doesn't make sense.

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Hbthebattle posted...

As (moslty) protection, I think its in town's best interest for me to avoid claiming more than I have to.

...Then why claim roleblocked to begin with?

If you're town you essentially outed yourself for no reason.

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Alright I think I'm mostly caught up but someone correct me if I'm wrong on any of the following

• Scare unblocked, scanned Lea town
• HB visited Chris N1, tried to visit Scare N2 but it failed, is not a doctor
• Corrik was redirected to Uwnim N1 from ??? (he specified it wasn't Red like Sultan claimed, right?)
• Tange's gift from Chris was a cop scan that he used to scan Balla town, he's a detective who gets roles that might not exist alongside the real one, targeted Sultan N1 and failed to target Scare N2
• Sultan tracked Plum to Lea
• Uwnim targeted DYL, no motion
• Damion claims Vanilla
• Plum is the exact same role/flavour as Uwnim, did nothing N1 (when he was 5tar), saw movement on Lea N2

I'll add myself to the mix. I'm Battery Technician, Town Drunk. I randomly visit someone every night, do not know who.

So first off I think Tange is legit. He already hinted that his gift from Chris was more than Chris was letting on during day 2 and his role is fine in a vacuum with extra roles to choose from to nerf it. His paranoia about other scanners is perhaps not accurate with his role not being as potent as multi-use normal detective would be, but it seems like an easy thing to think is right. He probably checks out.

That brings me to Scare. Multiple people failing to target him means he either is scum or someone can render him untargetable. Which sounds like a scum ability but why use that on the cop? It's dependent on HB though and HB doesn't really add up. What other role do we have that would visit Chris N1 (when we had no kill) and Scare N2 and not be scum but also not be doctor? Can't be jailkeeper either because Scare got a scan off, unless Scare is faking being cop but Scare's original way of claiming added up in hindsight.

I think HB is the sketchiest person coming out of this and probably should claim what his actions were.

Does anyone remember if Uwnim posted after Red claimed the result on his scan on 5tar late day 2? I don't recall if he was even around but you'd think if he was he should have had a reaction to his flavour being claimed as a scan result on someone else. If one of Uwnim and Plum are scum I'd lean to Plum since Uwnim has looked good, but I'll try to remember to check into that later and it's not impossible they're both town as some sort of meta trap.

I also think that if Scare is legit cop (which I believe is fairly likely) and Chris could give out a cop scan and no scanner has claimed a roleblock, scum probably has multiple godfathers or at least one of the cop scans is insane. Maybe expand that to the scanners in general, scum has to have a reason to be unconcerned with both tracker and cop and counters to them would logically lead them to preferring to try to block protection. Or Sultan might not be legit after all.

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So one use doctor, one use bodyguard, one use bulletproof claimed by town as protection so far. HB claiming save on Chris night 1.

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DoubleTangicide posted...

there is not a letter, word, phrase, sentence, paragraph, page, book, novel, dissertation or epic poem that can convince me that scare is town

he is scum. We have him. He should be lynched today.

Ok um... This is not scum Tange. This is town Tange who really, really thinks he has scum.

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Hbthebattle posted...

As (moslty) protection, I think its in town's best interest for me to avoid claiming more than I have to.

Hbthebattle posted...

Jack with a Doc/BG/RB. I used the doc on Chris and the BG on Scare, which is where my action failed.

What changed in one minute

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Panthera posted...

I'll add myself to the mix. I'm Battery Technician, Town Drunk. I randomly visit someone every night, do not know who.

This is effectively a miller claim?

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Panthera posted...

What changed in one minute

Well, I was already outed as protection by then.
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Crescent-Moon posted...

This is effectively a miller claim?

Probably what it amounts to given all the movement scanners

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Crescent-Moon posted...

This is effectively a miller claim?

It is a scanner messer upper.

I don't like Panthera's claim for the record.

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Wait si tange redirected me night 1?

You guys are very active tonight making it hard to catch everything

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Hbthebattle posted...

Well, I was already outed as protection by then.

Yes because you described yourself as such when saying why you didn't want to claim. Prior to that it was clear you were hinting at it but you weren't as "outed" as you were when you outright said it

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TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Wait si tange redirected me night 1?

You guys are very active tonight making it hard to catch everything

no, I actively targeted you

you were the only claimed power after day 1

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Doesn't town drunk usually know who they walked to? Even if it is random.

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Corrik7 posted...

It is a scanner messer upper.

I don't like Panthera's claim for the record.

This is a claim I'd trust more if it were made earlier in the game when we didn't have two claimed motion detectors and a claimed tracker.

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Panthera posted...

Yes because you described yourself as such when saying why you didn't want to claim. Prior to that it was clear you were hinting at it but you weren't as "outed" as you were when you outright said it

The problem is more he outed himself when he claimed roleblocked. I don't understand why he would do it as town.

But he's also the explanation we currently have for a no kill on night 1.

This game is not fun.

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My best bet is scare is scum.. thought he was busing lea all day yesterday so if scare is scum so is lea probably

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HB, how do you know if your actions "failed" or not?

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TheSultanOfSlam posted...

My best bet is scare is scum.. thought he was busing lea all day yesterday so if scare is scum so is lea probably

Well, Lea being scum is predicated on scare covering for her movement night 2 via Plums motion scan, yeah.

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Crescent-Moon posted...

This is a claim I'd trust more if it were made earlier in the game when we didn't have two claimed motion detectors and a claimed tracker.

There wasn't much purpose to claiming it earlier, especially after a few people thought me saying that claiming "wouldn't be ideal" back on day 1 a few hours before deadline meant I was power. No reason to confirm I wasn't.

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BallaLeonHall posted...

HB, how do you know if your actions "failed" or not?

I was told that my action on Tange was a failure.
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TheSultanOfSlam posted...

My best bet is scare is scum.. thought he was busing lea all day yesterday so if scare is scum so is lea probably

Why link himself to her so strongly?

Ultimately I very strongly believe Lea is town.

Actually I'm going to just flat out refuse to vote Lea no matter what because I love Rush and Neil Peart already died once this year and it would not be FUN to see him die again

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Hbthebattle posted...

I was told that my action on Tange was a failure.

you said you targeted scare though

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Ok so, while I don't like anything Hb has done today... His claim makes sense as our reason for there being no kill night 1.

Just based off of that we shouldn't be lynching Hb.

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that's what we call a slip, boys and girls

hang him by his toenails alongside scare

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Hbthebattle posted...

I was told that my action on Tange was a failure.

Huh

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DoubleTangicide posted...

you said you targeted scare though

whoops, I meant Scare, sorry.
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Also only other peraon to claim a person was scum sooo
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TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Also only other peraon to claim a person was scum sooo

Red was a person.

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