Current Events > Coronavirus 16: Untitled

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DundiesAward posted...

https://twitter.com/mbesheer/status/1249372938647801856

Correct me if Im wrong, but if hospitalization rates are lowering does that mean we havent hit the peak death rate yet? Dont peak deaths tend to lag after peak hospitalization rates?

6_7__8910 posted...

Correct me if Im wrong, but if hospitalization rates are lowering does that mean we havent hit the peak death rate yet? Dont peak deaths tend to lag after peak hospitalization rates?

nah these numbers are being highly underreported, people are dying at home to this disease and not being counted

kingdrake2 posted...

the denial was true. the WHO mislead us thinking it was isolated cases and that it wouldn't spread.

This is the WHO report.
https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/who-china-joint-mission-on-covid-19-final-report.pdf

@kingdrake2

Did you read this or are you going by what some news desk like Fox news says they said?

I will read it again.

Strains of coronavirus : 104 identified by WHO in China/

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maybe later. too much of a headache right now to deal with it :(.
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Make your mask without sewing. Use a t-shirt

@MacadamianNut3

Here is a tee shirt video which require no stitching. I am going to make one of these.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/how-to-make-t-shirt-face-mask-coronavirus_l_5e8f2f06c5b6b371812d15af

Here is the video which goes with the mask and the cdc pattern is on the pgae
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_HgS61y9BY

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I went to Newport Beach yesterday evening and there were a lot of people out. Parking lots filled with cars at the beach. A lot of people aint taking it seriously at all.

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https://www.tmz.com/2020/04/12/mississippi-emergency-take-shelter-tornado-storm-social-distancing/

Wow
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Looks like they're releasing the zip codes of the most infected regions now.

LampChop posted...

Looks like they're releasing the zip codes of the most infected regions now.

Pretty sure this was already a thing. I've been able to look up infections in IL via zip code for weeks now.

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https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1249405543569121282

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DundiesAward posted...

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1249405543569121282

Damn

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GregShmedley posted...

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1249470237726081030?s=19

Oh my god hes going to fire Fauci isnt he

Does he still not realize that banning flights from China does nothing when people can just go from China to somewhere else to here?

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LameFAQs posted...

Oh my god hes going to fire Fauci isnt he

he'll do it. he's tired of his shit. making him look bad etc.
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thronedfire2 posted...

Does he still not realize that banning flights from China does nothing when people can just go from China to somewhere else to here?

so.. ban asian people?

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MT_TRAEH posted...

so.. ban asian people?

or flights from everywhere, after he first found out it was spreading all over Europe?

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thronedfire2 posted...

or flights from everywhere, after he first found out it was spreading all over Europe?

but the economy!

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thronedfire2 posted...

Does he still not realize that banning flights from China does nothing when people can just go from China to somewhere else to here?

its funny because he called it a ban but it was just a restriction lol

I definitely think lives come first and we have to lock down as long as necessary, but I am getting pretty worried about the economy. I work in healthcare so I think I'll be ok personally (at least financially), but I'm worried about my favorite restaurants, bars, coffee shops, etc having to shut down permanantly.

umax555 posted...

I'm worried about my favorite restaurants, bars, coffee shops, etc having to shut down permanantly.

if it goes beyond the summer. they're going to suffer alot :(.
its the only time they actually make money for the whole year.
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ReiRei89 posted...

Pretty sure this was already a thing. I've been able to look up infections in IL via zip code for weeks now.

It's a first here in MD. It started today actually.

I thought the genome/stain specific to most American infected today came from Europe.

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Makeveli_lives posted...

I thought the genome/stain specific to most American infected today came from Europe.

if talking which infected first. news said it was europe.
if talking more than 1. europe and china (just at different times).
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re t shirt face mask. This video may be better

Again this is a no sew and cuts up a t-shirt

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djEHgdZnlOc

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8212751/Feds-Kashkari-says-U-S-economy-faces-long-hard-road-recover-coronavirus.html
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The last week I've sort of ignored media and updates about Corona. It was my daughters bday and then Easter, my wife is due soon, and have stuff going on with my work coming up as I've been off a couple weeks. I've been trying to enjoy time with the family while not stressing about everything.

In a short summary, where are we with COVID-19 in general? Looking up general info it's hard to process the numbers in comparison to a couple weeks ago. Are all the shutdowns helping keep it down and cases/deaths plateauing? Is it looking like we might start to trickle off by June/July?

I know things won't get back to the way they were anytime soon, but if I'm put in a position to return to work it might make me feel a bit better if that could happen in say June without feeling like I'll be at a high risk for my newborn...or should I be looking at temporarily moving out or taking unpaid leave?

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I spoke to my family in Mexico today and they basically said that daily life is going the same as always. Which scares the fuck out of me. I haven't really seen Mexico on any reports.
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Conker posted...

The last week I've sort of ignored media and updates about Corona. It was my daughters bday and then Easter, my wife is due soon, and have stuff going on with my work coming up as I've been off a couple weeks. I've been trying to enjoy time with the family while not stressing about everything.

In a short summary, where are we with COVID-19 in general? Looking up general info it's hard to process the numbers in comparison to a couple weeks ago. Are all the shutdowns helping keep it down and cases/deaths plateauing? Is it looking like we might start to trickle off by June/July?

I know things won't get back to the way they were anytime soon, but if I'm put in a position to return to work it might make me feel a bit better if that could happen in say June without feeling like I'll be at a high risk for my newborn...or should I be looking at temporarily moving out or taking unpaid leave?

The infection, and death rates are going back and forth. Nothing is consistent long enough to give a 100% answer on, maybe except for South Korea, and that's a maybe. I'll give it till August. But we don't know if it will happen again in fall, and winter. Which is why a vaccine is needed asap.

As for your last question, wait and see. You have eyes and a brain. Look at the numbers reported, look in your area and see what's going on there, then you make that decision.

LampChop posted...

The infection, and death rates are going back and forth. Nothing is consistent long enough to give a 100% answer on, maybe except for South Korea, and that's a maybe. I'll give it till August. But we don't know if it will happen again in fall, and winter. Which is why a vaccine is needed asap.

As for your last question, wait and see. You have eyes and a brain. Look at the numbers reported, look in your area and see what's going on there, then you make that decision.

Well, it's not that I can't see what's going on and make a decision, but it's clearly not that simple. The easiest thing to do would be to take time off, of course that's what I would like to do if there is even a low risk. Unfortunately, giving up thousands is hard to do for most people supporting a family when it would be voluntary (my company is removing all PTO soon so it's either work or take leave). Just looking for perspective, and numbers are clearly misleading. In my area there have been only a few deaths with a couple hundred cases, yet a populated area not far from me has the top 5 cases in the U.S. Does that make me feel better we're keeping numbers down...I'd like to say yes, but when one person comes over from another area with it, could give it to me and I unknowingly cause harm to a family member, at that point it'd be impossible to think I made the right call. Yet, I could possibly return to work now and never get it. It's a shitty dilemma.

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Conker posted...

Well, it's not that I can't see what's going on and make a decision, but it's clearly not that simple. The easiest thing to do would be to take time off, of course that's what I would like to do if there is even a low risk. Unfortunately, giving up thousands is hard to do for most people supporting a family when it would be voluntary (my company is removing all PTO soon so it's either work or take leave). Just looking for perspective, and numbers are clearly misleading. In my area there have been only a few deaths with a couple hundred cases, yet a populated area not far from me has the top 5 cases in the U.S. Does that make me feel better we're keeping numbers down...I'd like to say yes, but when one person comes over from another area with it, could give it to me and I unknowingly cause harm to a family member, at that point it'd be impossible to think I made the right call. Yet, I could possibly return to work now and never get it. It's a shitty dilemma.

Well yeah, what you said last in that paragraph is exactly why you should decide on your own. If bunch of ppl online said it was ok, and you went to work, and got sick, who's to blame? Not them. It's all on you. Decide on your own. Sorry, I know you're trying to find some relief, but that's how it is.

I'm not saying I'm going to take anyone's advice in regards to what's ok or not. I was just looking for perspective on where things have gone in the last week or so in comparison to the overall expectations/timeline. Is it worse than people thought, are methods effective, or do we not really have a good way to tell? Even this topic it's hard to tell from the stats, 35% of deaths in the last week sounds terrible, but it still seems lower than sounded like the "peak" different media was talking about just a couple weeks ago and bracing for the worst. If that starts going down in the next week or two, I can picture my company treating it likes it's over with. Some of my supervisors voluntarily worked in a busy location while our location was shutdown, even though the company offered full pay and bonuses for the month of April. So of course I'm feeling that pressure and if I take a leave, I'd like to think my job would be waiting for me in a month or two, but there's no certainty.

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I've been following this very closely for over a month and it is still hard to tell. There just are no clear answers.

We MAY be starting to see the curve flatten in areas hit first like NYC, but optimism there should be cautious.

I believe areas like Detroit, Philadelphia, and New Orleans are supposed to get pretty bad over the next couple weeks or so. There are other cities not far behind.

I will say that I've been on leave from work for a month now and I don't think I will feel safe returning anytime soon and I don't have a family to worry about spreading it to. I also live near a large urban area that has handled things pretty well. Probably one of the best areas of the country in terms of the outbreak.

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Conker posted...

I'm not saying I'm going to take anyone's advice in regards to what's ok or not. I was just looking for perspective on where things have gone in the last week or so in comparison to the overall expectations/timeline. Is it worse than people thought, are methods effective, or do we not really have a good way to tell? Even this topic it's hard to tell from the stats, 35% of deaths in the last week sounds terrible, but it still seems lower than sounded like the "peak" different media was talking about just a couple weeks ago and bracing for the worst. If that starts going down in the next week or two, I can picture my company treating it likes it's over with. Some of my supervisors voluntarily worked in a busy location while our location was shutdown, even though the company offered full pay and bonuses for the month of April. So of course I'm feeling that pressure and if I take a leave, I'd like to think my job would be waiting for me in a month or two, but there's no certainty.

Nobody knows. You're just hoping someone will say what you like to hear, but nobody knows how this will go, or how long it will last man. If I were in your position, I'd still goto work, but would sleep in the car to decrease the risk of spread to my new born, and my recovering wife, and do my laundry at the laundry mat. But would you, or can you do it?

Christ the Redeemer lit as a doctor:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGm7xVRNZ-8

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https://www.tmz.com/2020/04/13/abc-news-anchor-george-stephanopoulos-tests-positive-coronavirus/
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https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/04/11/coronavirus-economy-stimulus-democrats-leverage-trump-176783
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https://twitter.com/bnodesk/status/1249727594997714944?s=21

Im naturally a pessimist. So I feel like him saying this isnt necessarily a good thing - if they lift lockdown measures too soon in New York, I fear the next wave could be worse than the initial one.

In any circumstance, I cant see the country re-opening May 1st. Not until Italy opens back up at least and we see how they fair shortly after.

6_7__8910 posted...

https://twitter.com/bnodesk/status/1249727594997714944?s=21

Im naturally a pessimist. So I feel like him saying this isnt necessarily a good thing - if they lift lockdown measures too soon in New York, I fear the next wave could be worse than the initial one.

In any circumstance, I cant see the country re-opening May 1st. Not until Italy opens back up at least and we see how they fair shortly after.

Looks like Cuomo and other governors will announce their reopening plans this afternoon.
https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/1249727729433546752

Some graphs he showed in his press conference
https://twitter.com/AlexBerenson/status/1249746448587120640

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DundiesAward posted...

Looks like Cuomo and other governors will announce their reopening plans this afternoon.
https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/1249727729433546752

Some graphs he showed in his press conference
https://twitter.com/AlexBerenson/status/1249746448587120640

The graph is definitely good news but Im scared if he announces theyre re-opening soon. Even France just extended their lockdown.

Smashingpmkns posted...

I spoke to my family in Mexico today and they basically said that daily life is going the same as always. Which scares the fuck out of me. I haven't really seen Mexico on any reports.

From what I know AMLO has been downplaying it for awhile. His #1 concern is keeping Mexico's economy going.

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I'm optimistic as well. Nevada hasn't been hit that hard by the virus and we seemed to have hit our peak. At this point, I'm more worried about how the local economy will recover. I'm also hopeful it'll warm up so we can avoid a second year in a row of grasshoppers everywhere.

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I feel like Massachusetts is gonna be closed for a while. Already extended to May 5th I think? And they just started saying everyone should wear a mask when out

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Meanwhile VA is over here looking like a joke with their June 10th thing.

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DundiesAward posted...

Looks like Cuomo and other governors will announce their reopening plans this afternoon.
https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/1249727729433546752

Some graphs he showed in his press conference
https://twitter.com/AlexBerenson/status/1249746448587120640

His announcement was that he is cooperating with the other East Coast Blue States and they're looking at the data on when to ease into loosening restrictions. He said they're not rushing to open and that the health and safety of the citizens takes priority over the economy. The Governors also called out Trump's bullshit on rushing to open and made it clear that the PotUS has no authority and the final decision is the Governors.

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https://twitter.com/govmurphy/status/1249778528045989888?s=21

new Jerseys governor speaking facts

6_7__8910 posted...

https://twitter.com/govmurphy/status/1249778528045989888?s=21

new Jerseys governor speaking facts

Yep. People claiming Cuomo talked about opening the States back up are lying/exaggerating. All he said was that they were looking at the data and that public health takes priority over the economy so no one was going to be rushing to open up. Much to fat fuck's dismay we're still looking at weeks of shutdowns.

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https://www.pix11.com/news/coronavirus/task-force-to-design-plan-to-reopen-schools-business-in-ny-nj-ct-and-nearby-states
NEW YORK A multi-state task force will design a plan to reopen schools and businesses in New York, New Jersey, Connecticut, Pennsylvania, Delaware and Rhode Island amid the coronavirus outbreak, Gov. Andrew Cuomo announced on Monday.

"We started this journey together, we're going to end it together," Cuomo said.

The governor made the announcement along with New Jersey Gov. Phil Murphy and Connecticut Gov. Ned Lamont as well as Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Wolf, Delaware Gov. John Carney and Rhode Island Gov. Gina Raimondo.

Cuomo suggested the panel could establish a regionwide strategy and states would then be responsible for setting up and enacting individual timelines, but he added the task force will be responsible for recommending such a plan.

An uncoordinated approach to reopening states' local economies could have "inadvertent, unintended" consequences, Murphy said. "If you jam it too early, you could throw gasoline on the fire and reignite the fire."

A regionwide approach to restarting the economy made even more sense, Lamont added, given the major transportation corridors that run through each state, noting coronavirus outbreaks along the Metro-North Railroad corridor.

"It's the commuter corridor for us, but it's also the COVID corridor," he said.

Lamont called for a shared database and matching protocols, and expressed an interest in coordinating with the federal government.

The 18-person task force, which will include three representatives from each state, is expected to begin working on the plan Tuesday. Cuomo said they do not have a timeline and emphasized the governors expect a "smart plan" not a "political plan."

GregShmedley posted...

What's wrong with it? I can't stand Northam but will give him credit where it is due.

June 10th is an asinine date and has accellerated the economic fallout. Dozens of businesses just in my neighborhood alone which were employing people trying to ride it out have closed up shop because eating rent and wages and other expenses for 2 and a half months is just stupid. I'm talking entire stripmalls just gone in a week after he said that.

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