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Antifar 04/11/20 12:28:50 PM #153:	https://www.propublica.org/article/medical-staffing-companies-owned-by-rich-investors-cut-doctor-pay-and-now-want-bailout-money Medical staffing companies some of which are owned by some of the countrys richest investors and have been cutting pay for doctors on the front lines of the coronavirus pandemic are seeking government bailout money. Private equity firms have increasingly bought up doctors practices that contract with hospitals to staff emergency rooms and other departments. These staffing companies say the coronavirus pandemic is, counterintuitively, bad for business because most everyone who isnt critically ill with COVID-19 is avoiding the ER. The companies have responded with pay cuts, reduced hours and furloughs for doctors. Emergency room visits across the country have fallen roughly 30%, and the patients who are coming tend to be sicker and costlier to treat, the American College of Emergency Physicians said in an April 3 letter to Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar. The professional group asked the Trump administration to provide $3.6 billion of aid to emergency physician practices. Without immediate federal financial resources and support separate from what is provided to hospitals, fewer emergency physicians will be left to care for patients, a shortfall which will only be further exacerbated as they try to make preparations for the COVID-19 surge, the organization said in the letter. The American College of Emergency Physicians 38,000 members include employees of large staffing firms as well as academic medical centers and small doctor-owned practice groups. The letter was signed by the groups president, William P. Jaquis, whose day job is as a senior vice president at Envision Healthcare, a top staffing firm owned by private equity giant KKR. Envision, which has 27,000 clinicians, said its cutting doctors pay in areas that are seeing fewer patients, as well as delaying bonuses and profit-sharing, retirement contributions, raises and promotions. The company also cut senior executives salaries in half and will impose pay cuts or furloughs for nonclinical employees. However, Envision said that its adding doctors in hard-hit New York and other coronavirus hot spots. Where they lose their normal billing revenue, medical groups are losing money. Where medical groups are losing money, they have to reduce salaries and furlough workers, Envision CEO Jim Rechtin said in a statement. Unfortunately, we are no different. KKR didnt respond to requests for comment. Co-founders Henry Kravis and George Roberts said theyll donate $50 million to first responders and health workers, as well as forgoing bonuses and the rest of their salaries for the year, Forbes reported. Forbes estimates Kravis wealth at $5.6 billion and Roberts at $5.8 billion. Before the pandemic, Envision made a lucrative business out of buying practice groups in specialties where patients dont choose their provider, such as ER physicians and anesthesiologists, according to Dr. Marty Makary, a surgical oncologist at Johns Hopkins Medicine who studies health care costs. Envision could then charge patients high prices for out-of-network care, a practice known as surprise billing. The model was profitable until a public backlash led lawmakers to investigate the practice, according to Makary. Private equity consolidated large physician groups in an unprecedented financial gamble using capital and banking on revenue not skipping a beat, Makary said. When the investment model works, investors get rich. When the investment goes sour, who bears the risk? As in the mortgage crisis of 2008, taxpayers are bearing the risk of financial gambles of investors. Envision wont send surprise bills to COVID-19 patients, the company said; patients will be responsible only for in-network copays. --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:937194113] in Coronaviru... [t:78559287]...</cite> <quote>https://www.propublica.org/article/medical-staffing-companies-owned-by-rich-investors-cut-doctor-pay-and-now-want-bailout-money <quote>Medical staffing companies some of which are owned by some of the countrys richest investors and have been cutting pay for doctors on the front lines of the coronavirus pandemic are seeking government bailout money. Private equity firms have increasingly bought up doctors practices that contract with hospitals to staff emergency rooms and other departments. These staffing companies say the coronavirus pandemic is, counterintuitively, bad for business because most everyone who isnt critically ill with COVID-19 is avoiding the ER. The companies have responded with pay cuts, reduced hours and furloughs for doctors. Emergency room visits across the country have fallen roughly 30%, and the patients who are coming tend to be sicker and costlier to treat, the American College of Emergency Physicians said in an April 3 letter to Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar. The professional group asked the Trump administration to provide $3.6 billion of aid to emergency physician practices. Without immediate federal financial resources and support separate from what is provided to hospitals, fewer emergency physicians will be left to care for patients, a shortfall which will only be further exacerbated as they try to make preparations for the COVID-19 surge, the organization said in the letter. The American College of Emergency Physicians 38,000 members include employees of large staffing firms as well as academic medical centers and small doctor-owned practice groups. The letter was signed by the groups president, William P. Jaquis, whose day job is as a senior vice president at Envision Healthcare, a top staffing firm owned by private equity giant KKR. Envision, which has 27,000 clinicians, said its cutting doctors pay in areas that are seeing fewer patients, as well as delaying bonuses and profit-sharing, retirement contributions, raises and promotions. The company also cut senior executives salaries in half and will impose pay cuts or furloughs for nonclinical employees. However, Envision said that its adding doctors in hard-hit New York and other coronavirus hot spots. Where they lose their normal billing revenue, medical groups are losing money. Where medical groups are losing money, they have to reduce salaries and furlough workers, Envision CEO Jim Rechtin said in a statement. Unfortunately, we are no different. KKR didnt respond to requests for comment. Co-founders Henry Kravis and George Roberts said theyll donate $50 million to first responders and health workers, as well as forgoing bonuses and the rest of their salaries for the year, Forbes reported. Forbes estimates Kravis wealth at $5.6 billion and Roberts at $5.8 billion. Before the pandemic, Envision made a lucrative business out of buying practice groups in specialties where patients dont choose their provider, such as ER physicians and anesthesiologists, according to Dr. Marty Makary, a surgical oncologist at Johns Hopkins Medicine who studies health care costs. Envision could then charge patients high prices for out-of-network care, a practice known as surprise billing. The model was profitable until a public backlash led lawmakers to investigate the practice, according to Makary. Private equity consolidated large physician groups in an unprecedented financial gamble using capital and banking on revenue not skipping a beat, Makary said. When the investment model works, investors get rich. When the investment goes sour, who bears the risk? As in the mortgage crisis of 2008, taxpayers are bearing the risk of financial gambles of investors. Envision wont send surprise bills to COVID-19 patients, the company said; patients will be responsible only for in-network copays.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DundiesAward 04/11/20 1:45:21 PM #154:	https://twitter.com/NY1/status/1248999634284032000 https://twitter.com/J__Velasquez/status/1249015577831768064 --- Black Pope <cite>DundiesAward posted [p:937197971] in Coronaviru... [t:78559287]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/NY1/status/1248999634284032000 https://twitter.com/J__Velasquez/status/1249015577831768064 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DundiesAward 04/11/20 2:06:53 PM #155:	Vital healthcare phone lines 'cut by 5G-coronavirus conspiracy theory idiots' https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/18373963.vital-healthcare-phone-lines-cut-5g-coronavirus-conspiracy-theory-idiots/ White House rejects bailout for Postal Service battered by coronavirus https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/white-house-rejects-bailout-for-postal-service-battered-by-coronavirus/ar-BB12ub09 https://twitter.com/NPR/status/1249033018175520773 --- Black Pope <cite>DundiesAward posted [p:937199086] in Coronaviru... [t:78559287]...</cite> <quote>Vital healthcare phone lines 'cut by 5G-coronavirus conspiracy theory idiots' https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/18373963.vital-healthcare-phone-lines-cut-5g-coronavirus-conspiracy-theory-idiots/ White House rejects bailout for Postal Service battered by coronavirus https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/white-house-rejects-bailout-for-postal-service-battered-by-coronavirus/ar-BB12ub09 https://twitter.com/NPR/status/1249033018175520773 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MRW1215 04/11/20 2:32:25 PM #156:	So, I live in a state that's relatively low on confirmed corona cases; very early Thursday morning, I had to go to the ER, stayed through all of Thursday and most of Friday, and had to get surgery on Friday. A lot of the staff that worked closely (physically) with me weren't entirely equipped with masks and gloves (some were, but not all, clearly, there's a shortage). Realistically, what do you think my odds of having contracted corona are from this experience? To be honest, I've kind of been freaking out about this ever since I knew I had to go to the ER, and it's going to be bothering me for the next two weeks until I'm out of the typical "14 day window". :/ <cite>MRW1215 posted [p:937200457] in Coronaviru... [t:78559287]...</cite> <quote>So, I live in a state that's relatively low on confirmed corona cases; very early Thursday morning, I had to go to the ER, stayed through all of Thursday and most of Friday, and had to get surgery on Friday. A lot of the staff that worked closely (physically) with me weren't entirely equipped with masks and gloves (some were, but not all, clearly, there's a shortage). Realistically, what do you think my odds of having contracted corona are from this experience? To be honest, I've kind of been freaking out about this ever since I knew I had to go to the ER, and it's going to be bothering me for the next two weeks until I'm out of the typical "14 day window". :/</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CobraGT 04/11/20 2:35:46 PM #157:	MRW1215 posted... So, I live in a state that's relatively low on confirmed corona cases; very early Thursday morning, I had to go to the ER, stayed through all of Thursday and most of Friday, and had to get surgery on Friday. A lot of the staff that worked closely (physically) with me weren't entirely equipped with masks and gloves (some were, but not all, clearly, there's a shortage). Realistically, what do you think my odds of having contracted corona are from this experience? To be honest, I've kind of been freaking out about this ever since I knew I had to go to the ER, and it's going to be bothering me for the next two weeks until I'm out of the typical "14 day window". :/ I am assuming the hospital workers were quick. So low exposure. --- GoldenSun/Crossbone Isle diagrams/ 18 teams known http://s174.photobucket.com/albums/w89/SwordOfWheat/Weyard/PicsNao/ <cite>CobraGT posted [p:937200662] in Coronaviru... [t:78559287]...</cite> <quote>MRW1215 posted... </cite> <quote>So, I live in a state that's relatively low on confirmed corona cases; very early Thursday morning, I had to go to the ER, stayed through all of Thursday and most of Friday, and had to get surgery on Friday. A lot of the staff that worked closely (physically) with me weren't entirely equipped with masks and gloves (some were, but not all, clearly, there's a shortage). Realistically, what do you think my odds of having contracted corona are from this experience? To be honest, I've kind of been freaking out about this ever since I knew I had to go to the ER, and it's going to be bothering me for the next two weeks until I'm out of the typical "14 day window". :/</quote> I am assuming the hospital workers were quick. So low exposure. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Beyond01 04/11/20 2:55:01 PM #158:	https://apple.news/A3EU_5ZrjT8q14jN8QyTmwA Expect some news tomorrow of large church gatherings despite the lockdown in effect. --- Here we go <cite>Beyond01 posted [p:937201758] in Coronaviru... [t:78559287]...</cite> <quote>https://apple.news/A3EU_5ZrjT8q14jN8QyTmwA Expect some news tomorrow of large church gatherings despite the lockdown in effect. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kingdrake2 04/11/20 2:56:21 PM #159:	Beyond01 posted... Expect some news tomorrow of large church gatherings despite the lockdown in effect. they'll be paying for it along with everyone else if they participate :(. they're will be other easter sundays gawd damnit not now. thankfully there's no churches planning to have service on sunday around here. won't boost the low infection count. (it's bad everywhere else). --- Explorers In The Further Regions Of Experience, demons to some, Angels To Others: Pinhead <cite>kingdrake2 posted [p:937201826] in Coronaviru... [t:78559287]...</cite> <quote>Beyond01 posted...</cite> <quote>Expect some news tomorrow of large church gatherings despite the lockdown in effect.</quote> they'll be paying for it along with everyone else if they participate :(. they're will be other easter sundays gawd damnit not now. thankfully there's no churches planning to have service on sunday around here. won't boost the low infection count. (it's bad everywhere else).</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MacadamianNut3 04/11/20 2:57:10 PM #160:	My county is requiring shoppers to wear masks starting on Monday I'm on the prowl for masks right now since online is a no go --- Roll Tide & Go Irish <cite>MacadamianNut3 posted [p:937201863] in Coronaviru... [t:78559287]...</cite> <quote>My county is requiring shoppers to wear masks starting on Monday I'm on the prowl for masks right now since online is a no go </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kingdrake2 04/11/20 2:58:07 PM #161:	MacadamianNut3 posted... I'm on the prowl for masks right now needle and thread. bandana or cloth material (even paper towels work if 3 ply). easily can make a mask. needs some of those skills though to create one. --- Explorers In The Further Regions Of Experience, demons to some, Angels To Others: Pinhead <cite>kingdrake2 posted [p:937201910] in Coronaviru... [t:78559287]...</cite> <quote>MacadamianNut3 posted...</cite> <quote>I'm on the prowl for masks right now</quote> needle and thread. bandana or cloth material (even paper towels work if 3 ply). easily can make a mask. needs some of those skills though to create one.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DundiesAward 04/11/20 3:00:04 PM #162:	MRW1215 posted... So, I live in a state that's relatively low on confirmed corona cases; very early Thursday morning, I had to go to the ER, stayed through all of Thursday and most of Friday, and had to get surgery on Friday. A lot of the staff that worked closely (physically) with me weren't entirely equipped with masks and gloves (some were, but not all, clearly, there's a shortage). Realistically, what do you think my odds of having contracted corona are from this experience? To be honest, I've kind of been freaking out about this ever since I knew I had to go to the ER, and it's going to be bothering me for the next two weeks until I'm out of the typical "14 day window". :/ Low. You lucky though you were even able to have surgery though. Many states stopped doing it to focus on coronavirus patients. I live in a hard hit state and had a dentist appointment to have my wisdom teeth removed but got a call that the dentist office will be closed until at least June and that they have no idea when they'd be open. They do cancer treatments in the same building and looking like those people probably more screwed than me. --- Black Pope <cite>DundiesAward posted [p:937202005] in Coronaviru... [t:78559287]...</cite> <quote>MRW1215 posted... </cite> <quote>So, I live in a state that's relatively low on confirmed corona cases; very early Thursday morning, I had to go to the ER, stayed through all of Thursday and most of Friday, and had to get surgery on Friday. A lot of the staff that worked closely (physically) with me weren't entirely equipped with masks and gloves (some were, but not all, clearly, there's a shortage). Realistically, what do you think my odds of having contracted corona are from this experience? To be honest, I've kind of been freaking out about this ever since I knew I had to go to the ER, and it's going to be bothering me for the next two weeks until I'm out of the typical "14 day window". :/</quote> Low. You lucky though you were even able to have surgery though. Many states stopped doing it to focus on coronavirus patients. I live in a hard hit state and had a dentist appointment to have my wisdom teeth removed but got a call that the dentist office will be closed until at least June and that they have no idea when they'd be open. They do cancer treatments in the same building and looking like those people probably more screwed than me. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tired-Insomniac 04/11/20 3:37:49 PM #163:	Slowest covid topic ever Makes me feel like things are dying down even though the death rate is increasing --- "I like turtles" <cite>Tired-Insomniac posted [p:937203941] in Coronaviru... [t:78559287]...</cite> <quote>Slowest covid topic ever Makes me feel like things are dying down even though the death rate is increasing </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik7 04/11/20 3:42:50 PM #164:	I noticed these topics are getting slower and slower on every forum. I think the newness of it has worn off on people. --- Xbox Live User Name - Corrik Currently playing: Spider-Man (PS4), Quantum Break (X1) <cite>Corrik7 posted [p:937204180] in Coronaviru... [t:78559287]...</cite> <quote>I noticed these topics are getting slower and slower on every forum. I think the newness of it has worn off on people. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 04/11/20 3:46:42 PM #165:	Tired-Insomniac posted... Slowest covid topic ever Makes me feel like things are dying down even though the death rate is increasing There's just nothing new. More people dying. More hospitals not getting the help they need. More dumbasses ignoring social distancing. Business might pick up when all these religious assholes get people killed because they think they have a right to spread contagious disease because muh Jesus. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:937204368] in Coronaviru... [t:78559287]...</cite> <quote>Tired-Insomniac posted... </cite> <quote>Slowest covid topic ever Makes me feel like things are dying down even though the death rate is increasing </quote>There's just nothing new. More people dying. More hospitals not getting the help they need. More dumbasses ignoring social distancing. Business might pick up when all these religious assholes get people killed because they think they have a right to spread contagious disease because muh Jesus. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Biscotti 04/11/20 4:05:43 PM #166:	Corrik7 posted... I noticed these topics are getting slower and slower on every forum. I think the newness of it has worn off on people. I think the Flu Bros have had to back off, as it seems likely this will kill 100k+ in the USA, and that's only hospital deaths. Also, the new reality might be sinking in. This might be our world for quite awhile. --- Ohhh, Elden Ring! <cite>Biscotti posted [p:937205455] in Coronaviru... [t:78559287]...</cite> <quote>Corrik7 posted... </cite> <quote>I noticed these topics are getting slower and slower on every forum. I think the newness of it has worn off on people.</quote> I think the Flu Bros have had to back off, as it seems likely this will kill 100k+ in the USA, and that's only hospital deaths. Also, the new reality might be sinking in. This might be our world for quite awhile. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Beyond01 04/11/20 4:07:13 PM #167:	Biscotti posted... I think the Flu Bros have had to back off, as it seems likely this will kill 100k+ in the USA, and that's only hospital deaths. Also, the new reality might be sinking in. This might be our world for quite awhile. Yup I told my sis yesterday I dont think the world will be back to normal until next year at the earliest. --- Here we go <cite>Beyond01 posted [p:937205545] in Coronaviru... [t:78559287]...</cite> <quote>Biscotti posted... </cite> <quote>I think the Flu Bros have had to back off, as it seems likely this will kill 100k+ in the USA, and that's only hospital deaths. Also, the new reality might be sinking in. This might be our world for quite awhile.</quote> Yup I told my sis yesterday I dont think the world will be back to normal until next year at the earliest. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DeroIin 04/11/20 4:07:41 PM #168:	Does anyone remember when the first Coronavirus topic was made here on CE? crazy that there have been 16 topics --- 1 up <cite>DeroIin posted [p:937205573] in Coronaviru... [t:78559287]...</cite> <quote>Does anyone remember when the first Coronavirus topic was made here on CE? crazy that there have been 16 topics </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Beyond01 04/11/20 4:09:58 PM #169:	DeroIin posted... Does anyone remember when the first Coronavirus topic was made here on CE? crazy that there have been 16 topics Yes they were being made back in January when it was mainly in China. --- Here we go <cite>Beyond01 posted [p:937205682] in Coronaviru... [t:78559287]...</cite> <quote>DeroIin posted... </cite> <quote>Does anyone remember when the first Coronavirus topic was made here on CE? crazy that there have been 16 topics</quote>Yes they were being made back in January when it was mainly in China. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DoctorVader 04/11/20 4:13:00 PM #170:	DeroIin posted... Does anyone remember when the first Coronavirus topic was made here on CE? crazy that there have been 16 topics There were 4 more before Awesome started the first and I picked up from #2. Also yeah, things have slowed down because most people have settled into the lockdown and all major actions have occurred. We're just waiting for how things proceed going forward. --- It all just disappears, doesn't it? Everything you are, gone in a moment, like breath on a mirror. - The Doctor <cite>DoctorVader posted [p:937205866] in Coronaviru... [t:78559287]...</cite> <quote>DeroIin posted... </cite> <quote>Does anyone remember when the first Coronavirus topic was made here on CE? crazy that there have been 16 topics</quote>There were 4 more before Awesome started the first and I picked up from #2. Also yeah, things have slowed down because most people have settled into the lockdown and all major actions have occurred. We're just waiting for how things proceed going forward. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tired-Insomniac 04/11/20 4:14:45 PM #171:	https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1249068074189443072?s=19 US is now at 20,000 deaths. --- "I like turtles" <cite>Tired-Insomniac posted [p:937205970] in Coronaviru... [t:78559287]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1249068074189443072?s=19 US is now at 20,000 deaths. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CobraGT 04/11/20 4:24:17 PM #172:	It is sinking in. People dying in hospitals, on the floor and in the street. Families starving in south Italy and now starving in Florida due to their governor. Lined up for food below --- ---- --- channel 7 video about food lines and first grocery worker to die of coronavirus https://abcnews.go.com/WNT/video/long-food-lines-normal-us-70073706 --- ------- ------- -------- Buffalo Springfield a song for the times. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIdfulZ1c5c --- GoldenSun/Crossbone Isle diagrams/ 18 teams known http://s174.photobucket.com/albums/w89/SwordOfWheat/Weyard/PicsNao/ <cite>CobraGT posted [p:937206440] in Coronaviru... [t:78559287]...</cite> <quote>It is sinking in. People dying in hospitals, on the floor and in the street. Families starving in south Italy and now starving in Florida due to their governor. Lined up for food below --- ---- --- channel 7 video about food lines and first grocery worker to die of coronavirus https://abcnews.go.com/WNT/video/long-food-lines-normal-us-70073706 --- ------- ------- -------- Buffalo Springfield a song for the times. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIdfulZ1c5c </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DundiesAward 04/11/20 6:07:05 PM #173:	Hundreds of U.S. Meat Workers Have Now Tested Positive for Virus https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-10/worsening-outbreak-at-colorado-meat-plant-impacts-as-many-as-300 Sturgill Simpson says he's tested positive for COVID-19 https://www.instagram.com/p/B-2Yv4WFcvA/ https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1249076739269177345 --- Black Pope <cite>DundiesAward posted [p:937211770] in Coronaviru... [t:78559287]...</cite> <quote>Hundreds of U.S. Meat Workers Have Now Tested Positive for Virus https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-10/worsening-outbreak-at-colorado-meat-plant-impacts-as-many-as-300 Sturgill Simpson says he's tested positive for COVID-19 https://www.instagram.com/p/B-2Yv4WFcvA/ https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1249076739269177345 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
inTaCtfuL 04/11/20 6:12:24 PM #174:	https://nationalpost.com/news/world/two-thirds-of-acute-coronavirus-cases-tested-on-antiviral-drug-improved --- i7-3970X Extreme ~ Asus Rampage IV Extreme ~ 32 GB DDR3-2133 ~ 10 TB 7200RPM ~ 500 GB SSD ~ 690 x2 ~ 1200 W PSU Gold ~ <cite>inTaCtfuL posted [p:937212059] in Coronaviru... [t:78559287]...</cite> <quote>https://nationalpost.com/news/world/two-thirds-of-acute-coronavirus-cases-tested-on-antiviral-drug-improved </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Beyond01 04/11/20 6:49:40 PM #175:	DundiesAward posted... Hundreds of U.S. Meat Workers Have Now Tested Positive for Virus https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-10/worsening-outbreak-at-colorado-meat-plant-impacts-as-many-as-300 Sturgill Simpson says he's tested positive for COVID-19 https://www.instagram.com/p/B-2Yv4WFcvA/ https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1249076739269177345 The meat factory bit is troubling. --- Here we go <cite>Beyond01 posted [p:937214000] in Coronaviru... [t:78559287]...</cite> <quote>DundiesAward posted... </cite> <quote>Hundreds of U.S. Meat Workers Have Now Tested Positive for Virus https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-10/worsening-outbreak-at-colorado-meat-plant-impacts-as-many-as-300 Sturgill Simpson says he's tested positive for COVID-19 https://www.instagram.com/p/B-2Yv4WFcvA/ https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1249076739269177345</quote> The meat factory bit is troubling. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LampChop 04/11/20 7:00:47 PM #176:	DeroIin posted... Does anyone remember when the first Coronavirus topic was made here on CE? crazy that there have been 16 topics Yup. I also remember that one particular topic saying Corona doesn't seem to affect African Americans as much as others. Boy, if someone deserves a bitchslap, it was that dude. <cite>LampChop posted [p:937214518] in Coronaviru... [t:78559287]...</cite> <quote>DeroIin posted... </cite> <quote>Does anyone remember when the first Coronavirus topic was made here on CE? crazy that there have been 16 topics</quote>Yup. I also remember that one particular topic saying Corona doesn't seem to affect African Americans as much as others. Boy, if someone deserves a bitchslap, it was that dude. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RIPVyseCity 04/11/20 7:20:55 PM #177:	I'm going to dialyze a patient under investigation today at 9pm. There have been 6 confirmed positive dialysis patients in my county. Sadly 3 have died. Yet patients still not taking it serious. I think if they were aware of this deaths maybe, just maybe they would. <cite>RIPVyseCity posted [p:937215516] in Coronaviru... [t:78559287]...</cite> <quote>I'm going to dialyze a patient under investigation today at 9pm. There have been 6 confirmed positive dialysis patients in my county. Sadly 3 have died. Yet patients still not taking it serious. I think if they were aware of this deaths maybe, just maybe they would. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 04/11/20 7:40:08 PM #178:	? ? ? ?? ? ? https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1249117097365508097 --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:937216446] in Coronaviru... [t:78559287]...</cite> <quote>? ? ? ?? ? ? https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1249117097365508097</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CobraGT 04/11/20 7:40:59 PM #179:	LampChop posted... Yup. I also remember that one particular topic saying Corona doesn't seem to affect African Americans as much as others. Boy, if someone deserves a bitchslap, it was that dude. Was this belief just circulating on CE or did it become an Urban myth? I could see a company like Walmart or McDonald getting their employees to believe it. --- GoldenSun/Crossbone Isle diagrams/ 18 teams known http://s174.photobucket.com/albums/w89/SwordOfWheat/Weyard/PicsNao/ <cite>CobraGT posted [p:937216495] in Coronaviru... [t:78559287]...</cite> <quote>LampChop posted... </cite> <quote>Yup. I also remember that one particular topic saying Corona doesn't seem to affect African Americans as much as others. Boy, if someone deserves a bitchslap, it was that dude.</quote> Was this belief just circulating on CE or did it become an Urban myth? I could see a company like Walmart or McDonald getting their employees to believe it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Beyond01 04/11/20 7:43:09 PM #180:	Anyone else think its only a matter of time until Trump gets Covid 19? --- Here we go <cite>Beyond01 posted [p:937216600] in Coronaviru... [t:78559287]...</cite> <quote>Anyone else think its only a matter of time until Trump gets Covid 19? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DoctorPiranha3 04/11/20 7:49:44 PM #181:	Beyond01 posted... Anyone else think its only a matter of time until Trump gets Covid 19? I don't wish it on anyone, but I think it's inevitable, especially with several country leaders already getting it. <cite>DoctorPiranha3 posted [p:937216958] in Coronaviru... [t:78559287]...</cite> <quote>Beyond01 posted...</cite> <quote>Anyone else think its only a matter of time until Trump gets Covid 19? </quote> I don't wish it on anyone, but I think it's inevitable, especially with several country leaders already getting it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Beyond01 04/11/20 7:51:54 PM #182:	DoctorPiranha3 posted... I don't wish it on anyone, but I think it's inevitable, especially with several country leaders already getting it. Yeah Im not wishing it on him. I just fear what would happen if and when he did get it. Hes around people all the flipping time. --- Here we go <cite>Beyond01 posted [p:937217074] in Coronaviru... [t:78559287]...</cite> <quote>DoctorPiranha3 posted... </cite> <quote>I don't wish it on anyone, but I think it's inevitable, especially with several country leaders already getting it.</quote> Yeah Im not wishing it on him. I just fear what would happen if and when he did get it. Hes around people all the flipping time. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MT_TRAEH 04/11/20 7:52:13 PM #183:	Beyond01 posted... Anyone else think its only a matter of time until Trump gets Covid 19? didnt he get tested weeks ago because someone he had contact with turned out to be positive? he's probably got cautious after that --- Life is just a journey from the maternity ward to the crematorium. Happiness or sadness, victory or defeat, pleasure or pain, it will pass. <cite>MT_TRAEH posted [p:937217093] in Coronaviru... [t:78559287]...</cite> <quote>Beyond01 posted... </cite> <quote>Anyone else think its only a matter of time until Trump gets Covid 19?</quote>didnt he get tested weeks ago because someone he had contact with turned out to be positive? he's probably got cautious after that </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tired-Insomniac 04/11/20 8:17:51 PM #184:	Beyond01 posted... Yeah Im not wishing it on him. I just fear what would happen if and when he did get it. Hes around people all the flipping time. Maybe his supporters will actually start taking it seriously --- "I like turtles" <cite>Tired-Insomniac posted [p:937218530] in Coronaviru... [t:78559287]...</cite> <quote>Beyond01 posted... </cite> <quote>Yeah Im not wishing it on him. I just fear what would happen if and when he did get it. Hes around people all the flipping time.</quote> Maybe his supporters will actually start taking it seriously </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 04/11/20 8:55:38 PM #185:	https://twitter.com/mattdpearce/status/1232857373271703552 --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:937220541] in Coronaviru... [t:78559287]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/mattdpearce/status/1232857373271703552</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CobraGT 04/11/20 10:03:49 PM #186:	My guess about Trump and coronavirus is that he gets constant plasma containing antibodies. --- GoldenSun/Crossbone Isle diagrams/ 18 teams known http://s174.photobucket.com/albums/w89/SwordOfWheat/Weyard/PicsNao/ <cite>CobraGT posted [p:937224035] in Coronaviru... [t:78559287]...</cite> <quote>My guess about Trump and coronavirus is that he gets constant plasma containing antibodies. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bishop9800 04/11/20 10:05:23 PM #187:	CobraGT posted... My guess about Trump and coronavirus is that he gets constant plasma containing antibodies. Wouldn't surprise me --- There are enough attention whores on CE as it is. <cite>Bishop9800 posted [p:937224110] in Coronaviru... [t:78559287]...</cite> <quote>CobraGT posted... </cite> <quote>My guess about Trump and coronavirus is that he gets constant plasma containing antibodies.</quote> Wouldn't surprise me </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fossil 04/11/20 11:20:08 PM #188:	Beyond01 posted... Anyone else think its only a matter of time until Trump gets Covid 19? I'm surprised nobody in Congress has gotten it yet, tbh. <cite>Fossil posted [p:937227661] in Coronaviru... [t:78559287]...</cite> <quote>Beyond01 posted... </cite> <quote>Anyone else think its only a matter of time until Trump gets Covid 19?</quote>I'm surprised nobody in Congress has gotten it yet, tbh. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tired-Insomniac 04/11/20 11:28:10 PM #189:	Fossil posted... I'm surprised nobody in Congress has gotten it yet, tbh. Several have --- "I like turtles" <cite>Tired-Insomniac posted [p:937228013] in Coronaviru... [t:78559287]...</cite> <quote>Fossil posted... </cite> <quote>I'm surprised nobody in Congress has gotten it yet, tbh.</quote> Several have </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
umax555 04/12/20 3:10:54 AM #190:	ThyCorndog posted... what's the survival rate for someone that's gotten to the point where they're in the ICU with an oxygen mask? Ventilator and oxygen masks are two extremely different things >_> <cite>umax555 posted [p:937236350] in Coronaviru... [t:78559287]...</cite> <quote>ThyCorndog posted... </cite> <quote>what's the survival rate for someone that's gotten to the point where they're in the ICU with an oxygen mask?</quote> Ventilator and oxygen masks are two extremely different things >_> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
umax555 04/12/20 3:25:44 AM #191:	Despite all the bad news, I'm hopeful because the numbers seem to be slowing down. I really think we can get down to a low number of cases by the end of May or early June IF we continue social distancing. But that's a big "if" <cite>umax555 posted [p:937236684] in Coronaviru... [t:78559287]...</cite> <quote>Despite all the bad news, I'm hopeful because the numbers seem to be slowing down. I really think we can get down to a low number of cases by the end of May or early June IF we continue social distancing. But that's a big "if" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DundiesAward 04/12/20 11:42:01 AM #192:	CobraGT posted... Was this belief just circulating on CE or did it become an Urban myth? I could see a company like Walmart or McDonald getting their employees to believe it. It was circulating around CE and social media. You gotta remember back then Washington State, China, and Europe were considered the epicenter and demographics in those areas probably favored that conspiracy. I think the NBA players and Idris Elba testing positive changed the narrative. My favorite weird theory back in that era was the fact for a while US only tested those with symptoms who had knowingly come into contact with someone infected or who traveled to China recently. The denial about community spread, it being brought in from other countries, and asymptomatic carriers probably played a huge part in why it got so bad in US. --- Black Pope <cite>DundiesAward posted [p:937250391] in Coronaviru... [t:78559287]...</cite> <quote>CobraGT posted... </cite> <quote>Was this belief just circulating on CE or did it become an Urban myth? I could see a company like Walmart or McDonald getting their employees to believe it.</quote> It was circulating around CE and social media. You gotta remember back then Washington State, China, and Europe were considered the epicenter and demographics in those areas probably favored that conspiracy. I think the NBA players and Idris Elba testing positive changed the narrative. My favorite weird theory back in that era was the fact for a while US only tested those with symptoms who had knowingly come into contact with someone infected or who traveled to China recently. The denial about community spread, it being brought in from other countries, and asymptomatic carriers probably played a huge part in why it got so bad in US. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kingdrake2 04/12/20 12:02:26 PM #193:	DundiesAward posted... The denial about community spread the denial was true. the WHO mislead us thinking it was isolated cases and that it wouldn't spread. --- Explorers In The Further Regions Of Experience, demons to some, Angels To Others: Pinhead <cite>kingdrake2 posted [p:937251430] in Coronaviru... [t:78559287]...</cite> <quote>DundiesAward posted...</cite> <quote> The denial about community spread</quote> the denial was true. the WHO mislead us thinking it was isolated cases and that it wouldn't spread.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TroutPaste 04/12/20 12:26:39 PM #194:	have we flattened the curve yet? --- https://steamcommunity.com/id/Acerbic89 https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1488-free-games <cite>TroutPaste posted [p:937252720] in Coronaviru... [t:78559287]...</cite> <quote>have we flattened the curve yet? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ReiRei89 04/12/20 12:30:12 PM #195:	TroutPaste posted... have we flattened the curve yet? We're still weeks out. --- I could just see this guy's ancestor on March 7th 1918;"Guys, this flu thing is nothing, only like six people are infected!"-seankimberly42 <cite>ReiRei89 posted [p:937252930] in Coronaviru... [t:78559287]...</cite> <quote>TroutPaste posted... </cite> <quote>have we flattened the curve yet?</quote>We're still weeks out. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LampChop 04/12/20 12:38:45 PM #196:	TroutPaste posted... have we flattened the curve yet? Nope. Give it till summer. <cite>LampChop posted [p:937253406] in Coronaviru... [t:78559287]...</cite> <quote>TroutPaste posted... </cite> <quote>have we flattened the curve yet?</quote>Nope. Give it till summer. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
6_7__8910 04/12/20 12:53:12 PM #197:	https://twitter.com/norbertelekes/status/1249369166039199744?s=21 How are they still getting so many new cases when theyve been in full lockdown for over a month now? <cite>6_7__8910 posted [p:937254243] in Coronaviru... [t:78559287]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/norbertelekes/status/1249369166039199744?s=21 How are they still getting so many new cases when theyve been in full lockdown for over a month now? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MRW1215 04/12/20 12:54:19 PM #198:	Sigh. I can't wait until the 24th, because that will be my personal "in the clear" date after my hospital visit and surgery this past week. I'm trying to stay positive and not think too deeply over whether or not I'll end up contracting corona from the experience, but it's tough. Not to mention, I can't tell what's just a residual effect from my surgery and the antibiotics they have me on, or a possible warning sign of corona. @_@ <cite>MRW1215 posted [p:937254319] in Coronaviru... [t:78559287]...</cite> <quote>Sigh. I can't wait until the 24th, because that will be my personal "in the clear" date after my hospital visit and surgery this past week. I'm trying to stay positive and not think too deeply over whether or not I'll end up contracting corona from the experience, but it's tough. Not to mention, I can't tell what's just a residual effect from my surgery and the antibiotics they have me on, or a possible warning sign of corona. @_@</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ReiRei89 04/12/20 12:58:19 PM #199:	6_7__8910 posted... https://twitter.com/norbertelekes/status/1249369166039199744?s=21 How are they still getting so many new cases when theyve been in full lockdown for over a month now? All you need is for one person to ignore sheltering. That one person infects 6 people, those six people each infect six people each etc. --- I could just see this guy's ancestor on March 7th 1918;"Guys, this flu thing is nothing, only like six people are infected!"-seankimberly42 <cite>ReiRei89 posted [p:937254549] in Coronaviru... [t:78559287]...</cite> <quote>6_7__8910 posted... </cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/norbertelekes/status/1249369166039199744?s=21 How are they still getting so many new cases when theyve been in full lockdown for over a month now?</quote>All you need is for one person to ignore sheltering. That one person infects 6 people, those six people each infect six people each etc. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DundiesAward 04/12/20 1:03:15 PM #200:	kingdrake2 posted... the denial was true. the WHO mislead us thinking it was isolated cases and that it wouldn't spread. I guess people were still thinking it was just a flu then too. --- Black Pope <cite>DundiesAward posted [p:937254781] in Coronaviru... [t:78559287]...</cite> <quote>kingdrake2 posted... </cite> <quote>the denial was true. the WHO mislead us thinking it was isolated cases and that it wouldn't spread.</quote> I guess people were still thinking it was just a flu then too. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DundiesAward 04/12/20 1:05:12 PM #201:	https://twitter.com/mbesheer/status/1249372938647801856 --- Black Pope <cite>DundiesAward posted [p:937254887] in Coronaviru... [t:78559287]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/mbesheer/status/1249372938647801856 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vermander 04/12/20 1:07:16 PM #202:	ReiRei89 posted... All you need is for one person to ignore sheltering. That one person infects 6 people, those six people each infect six people each etc. Yeah and due to this were actually just going to keep getting worse. --- Nintendo Switch FC: SW-0807-8653-6885 "Blue has the most anti-oxygens." <cite>Vermander posted [p:937255006] in Coronaviru... [t:78559287]...</cite> <quote>ReiRei89 posted... </cite> <quote>All you need is for one person to ignore sheltering. That one person infects 6 people, those six people each infect six people each etc.</quote> Yeah and due to this were actually just going to keep getting worse. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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