Current Events > For those of you who think CNN is fake news, reminder...

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Fox News literally did a segment on hydroxychloroquine where they had a doctor talk about 100% success rate in a couple hundred patients in his "published" study. Trump saw that and the next day told America it was a miracle drug and potentially the "greatest advancement in the history of medicine" . And she also tweeted about it that we should all be taking it.

The study wasnt published anywhere, it is literally as fake news as it gets.

Okay so that implicates Fox News, but how does that vindicate CNN?

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Fox News is state media tho

DanHaren2019 posted...

Fox News literally did a segment on hydroxychloroquine where they had a doctor talk about 100% success rate in a couple hundred patients in his "published" study. Trump saw that and the next day told America it was a miracle drug and potentially the "greatest advancement in the history of medicine" . And she also tweeted about it that we should all be taking it.

The study wasnt published anywhere, it is literally as fake news as it gets.

Its not fake though because we have greatly started to use it in our Hospital. If it didnt work we wouldnt use it. Its that simple.


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RevivedPacifist posted...

Okay so that implicates Fox News, but how does that vindicate CNN?

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I don't think CNN is fake news but that doesn't mean they don't fluff the facts like any other major news outlet.

I honestly hate how their website doesn't allow you to read any article without playing some bullshit video clip. It's intrusive.

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known2FAIL posted...

Its not fake though because we have greatly started to use it in our Hospital. If it didnt work we wouldnt use it. Its that simple.

They literally had an entire segment on a fake publication.

I challenge anyone to name 1 fact that CNN has fudged in regards to coronavirus

DanHaren2019 posted...

They literally had an entire segment on a fake publication.

Well yea I guess thats true. The information he presented wasnt false though so I guess some parts was fake and some where real

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Then Trumpers drank fish tank cleaner to own the libs

DanHaren2019 posted...

I challenge anyone to name 1 fact that CNN has fudged in regards to coronavirus

You probably won't, if that's the criteria then congratulations to CNN for being truthful on a single issue for not even a half year lol.

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known2FAIL posted...

Well yea I guess thats true. The information he presented wasnt false though so I guess some parts was fake and some where real

He presented false information.

How many more excuses can you make lmao

RevivedPacifist posted...

You probably won't, if that's the criteria then congratulations to CNN for being truthful on a single issue for not even a half year lol.

It's not a vacuum

I would trust Tucker Carlson with my life on his facts about panda reproduction. However the man is a complete hack and useless politically

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/8xkdev/tucker-carlsons-top-news-story-sex-crazed-pandas

DanHaren2019 posted...

He presented false information.

How many more excuses can you make lmao

How is it false that he talked about a drug that works. Its an absolute fact it works. I dont even watch Fox News or care for them. However, hydroxychloroquine is indeed an effective drug. Period. All that other fluff being false info doesnt change the fact that the drug is effective. No matter how you slice it.

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CNN and Fox are both fake news

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he said it was promising, chill out

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known2FAIL posted...

How is it false that he talked about a drug that works. Its an absolute fact it works. I dont even watch Fox News or care for them. However, hydroxychloroquine is indeed an effective drug. Period. All that other fluff being false info doesnt change the fact that the drug is effective. No matter how you slice it.

Uh, no it's not a fact. Also ironically, Trump's "The cure can't be worse than the disease" comes into play here regarding the side effects of the drug

Resaix posted...

Then Trumpers drank fish tank cleaner to own the libs

It bums me out having that Arizona couple essentially commit suicide on the president's recommendation.

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Resaix posted...

Uh, no it's not a fact. Also ironically, Trump's "The cure can't be worse than the disease" comes into play here regarding the side effects of the drug

Really? Are you saying hydroxychloroquine doesnt work against the Corona Virus?

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known2FAIL posted...

If it didnt work we wouldnt use it. Its that simple.

I sincerely hope you are not really a health care professional.

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known2FAIL posted...

How is it false that he talked about a drug that works. Its an absolute fact it works. I dont even watch Fox News or care for them. However, hydroxychloroquine is indeed an effective drug. Period. All that other fluff being false info doesnt change the fact that the drug is effective. No matter how you slice it.

Show me any evidence that it works, or else at this point I'll just assume you're a troll and ignore you. If you're so confident, showing the evidence shouldn't be hard.

known2FAIL posted...

Really? Are you saying hydroxychloroquine doesnt work against the Corona Virus?

https://www.goodrx.com/blog/coronavirus-medicine-chloroquine-hydroxychloroquine-as-covid19-treatment/

Data is extremely limited and studies are far from conclusive. So yeah.

Wii_Shaker posted...

It bums me out having that Arizona couple essentially commit suicide on the president's recommendation.

despite the fact that the label of said fish tank cleaner said "not for human consumption"

Clearly Trump's fault.

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known2FAIL posted...

Really? Are you saying hydroxychloroquine doesnt work against the Corona Virus?

It is inconclusive at best and an example of throwing shit against the wall and hoping something sticks

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After I see this guys clown response, I'm just gonna block him for wasting my time.

Caution999 posted...

despite the fact that the label of said fish tank cleaner said "not for human consumption"

Clearly Trump's fault.

"it's just Kool-aid, our leader knows what's best for us!"

DanHaren2019 posted...

Show me any evidence that it works, or else at this point I'll just assume you're a troll and ignore you. If you're so confident, showing the evidence shouldn't be hard.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/29/fda-emergency-authorization-anti-malaria-drug-155095

The Food and Drug Administration on Sunday issued an emergency use authorization for hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine, decades-old malaria drugs championed by President Donald Trump for coronavirus treatment despite scant evidence.

The FDA just issues this emergency use for this drug. You cant tell me it doesnt work when the FDA has authorized it


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Didn't I tell yall everyone used whataboutism whenever it is convenient for them?

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known2FAIL posted...

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/29/fda-emergency-authorization-anti-malaria-drug-155095

The Food and Drug Administration on Sunday issued an emergency use authorization for hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine, decades-old malaria drugs championed by President Donald Trump for coronavirus treatment despite scant evidence.

The FDA just issues this emergency use for this drug. You cant tell me it doesnt work when the FDA has authorized it

It's called a hail mary. Also this

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known2FAIL posted...

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/29/fda-emergency-authorization-anti-malaria-drug-155095

The Food and Drug Administration on Sunday issued an emergency use authorization for hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine, decades-old malaria drugs championed by President Donald Trump for coronavirus treatment despite scant evidence.

The FDA just issues this emergency use for this drug. You cant tell me it doesnt work when the FDA has authorized it

DezDroppedFreak posted...

It is inconclusive at best and an example of throwing shit against the wall and hoping something sticks

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Gladius_ posted...

Just want to point out even the passage you quoted says, "Despite scant evidence."

Im aware. People cant do full clinical trials of the drug right now. Im curious if people even know what the drug even does at this point.

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known2FAIL posted...

The FDA just issues this emergency use for this drug. You cant tell me it doesnt work when the FDA has authorized it

I am not at all surprised that you posted an article that is about the scientific community in general going WTF? about the FDA doing that despite the lack of evidence. Literally in the article you linked...

"I would like to see who at FDA's [Medical Countermeasures Initiative] signed off on this EUA despite the total lack of scientific evidence that chloroquine/hydroxychloroquine are beneficial in the treatment of COVID-19," tweeted Luciana Borio, who served as FDA's acting chief scientist between 2015 and 2017. "EUA is supposed to be issued when the evidence indicates that benefits outweigh the risks."

known2FAIL posted...

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/29/fda-emergency-authorization-anti-malaria-drug-155095

The Food and Drug Administration on Sunday issued an emergency use authorization for hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine, decades-old malaria drugs championed by President Donald Trump for coronavirus treatment despite scant evidence.

The FDA just issues this emergency use for this drug. You cant tell me it doesnt work when the FDA has authorized it

Jesus, I've argued with some bad posters but this guy takes the cake. There is some evidence that it works in a lab against the virus and the theory behind it. Theres no evidence that it works in humans. The drug has some risks but aren't that high. So its widely used at the moment. The FDA authorizing it for this use just protects doctors from getting sued for potential harms for using it off-label. It doesn't mean that it works.

The study that Fox did a segment on was literally a fake study.

This is the second Trumpet I've argued with this morning who is potentially an underage user.

I'm about to block this kid, if he happens to post something intelligent then someone can let me know, otherwise try working on getting your head out of your ass.

Tenlaar posted...

I am not at all surprised that you posted an article that is about the scientific community in general going WTF? about the FDA doing that despite the lack of evidence. Literally in the article you linked...

What gets me is that some of you guys keep quoting articles showing that it is effective but there isnt enough evidence to say for certain which takes months to years to prove.

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DanHaren2019 posted...

Jesus, I've argued with some bad posters but this guy takes the cake. There is some evidence that it works in a lab against the virus and the theory behind it. Theres no evidence that it works in humans. The drug has some risks but aren't that high. So its widely used at the moment. The FDA authorizing it for this use just protects doctors from getting sued for potential harms for using it off-label. It doesn't mean that it works.

The study that Fox did a segment on was literally a fake study.

This is the second Trumpet I've argued with this morning who is potentially an underage user.

I'm about to block this kid, if he happens to post something intelligent then someone can let me know, otherwise try working on getting your head out of your ass.

LMAO. I hate Donald Trump. WTF are you talking about? Its been proven that the drug stops the replication of the virus in the body. You like to pull out these facts but dont have references but come at me for not giving you references. Get the hell out of here


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known2FAIL posted...

Its been proven that the drug stops the replication of the virus in the body.

Source.

Caution999 posted...

despite the fact that the label of said fish tank cleaner said "not for human consumption"

Clearly Trump's fault.

It's not Trumps fault per-se nor am I blaming him for their stupidity. But despite what he thinks, he is responsible for the things he says. Apparently people killing themselves self-treating is a global phenomenon at the moment.

Trump seems to think science is going to find some sort of miracle drug that will protect Americans from Covid-19. Even if it's a possibility it doesn't reverse any missteps done by the administration.

An interesting article regarding Covid-19 drug research here:
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/03/insane-many-scientists-lament-trump-s-embrace-risky-malaria-drugs-coronavirus#

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Tenlaar posted...

Source.

Source? A guy has already posted a Source to counter me. Here: https://www.goodrx.com/blog/coronavirus-medicine-chloroquine-hydroxychloroquine-as-covid19-treatment/

Recent in vitro studies (studies done in a petri dish or test tube rather than in animals or humans) have shown that both hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine have antiviral properties against SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19. In these studies, these medications worked by interfering with the chemical environment of human cell membranes. This blocked the virus from entering and multiplying inside the cells.

I knew this before even looking it up because I work in Pharmacy. This is what we talk about. I hear this directly from Pharmacists treating this virus.

Also in that same source, there are small studies with humans that show it being effective at doing just that

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known2FAIL posted...

in vitro

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known2FAIL posted...

Its been proven

where

when

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known2FAIL posted...

LMAO. I hate Donald Trump. WTF are you talking about? Its been proven that the drug stops the replication of the virus in the body. You like to pull out these facts but dont have references but come at me for not giving you references. Get the hell out of here

Your own sources tell you otherwise

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in vitro

Same Source:

https://www.goodrx.com/blog/coronavirus-medicine-chloroquine-hydroxychloroquine-as-covid19-treatment/

Study 1 March 16, 2020
Researchers from China reported in a letter that over 100 people with COVID-19 have been treated with chloroquine. These patients had less severe disease and a shorter illness duration compared to those who did not receive chloroquine. However, results from these studies are not yet available, nor do we have a lot of information about the type of people who received this drug, or what dose they took and for how long.

Study 2 March 20, 2020
A small study in France reported that people who got 600 mg of hydroxychloroquine had a lower amount of the virus (viral load) in the body. The problem with this study is that comparisons were made between patients at different hospitals. This makes it difficult to know if improvements were because of hydroxychloroquine or other things. And, of the 26 people who initially got hydroxychloroquine, 6 people (23%) had to stop treatment because of nausea, worsening disease, leaving the hospital, or death.
Six people in this study also received azithromycin (a common antibiotic) with hydroxychloroquine. These individuals had even lower viral loads at the end of the study compared to those who only got hydroxychloroquine. Research with more people is needed to help us understand whether improvements were because of the combination of medications or other factors. More information on safety is also important because taking azithromycin and hydroxychloroquine together can increase the risk of serious side effects, particularly irregular heart rhythm.

Study 3 March 24, 2020
In a small Shanghai study of 30 people with COVID-19, half got 400 mg of hydroxychloroquine for 5 days while the other half did not. At the end of the study, 13 people (87%) who received hydroxychloroquine tested negative for COVID-19 compared to 14 people (93%) who also tested negative but did not receive the medication. Unlike the two studies above, this study suggests that hydroxychloroquine did not make a difference in recovery. Larger studies are needed to confirm the results.

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Studies by researcher known to publish fake data.

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DanHaren2019 posted...

I challenge anyone to name 1 fact that CNN has fudged in regards to coronavirus

Don't know what CNN has said, here's an article of France straight up hiding it and politics getting in the way of addressing its effectiveness (read this article!),

https://www.unz.com/pescobar/why-france-is-hiding-a-cheap-and-tested-virus-cure/

yet here is the newest study from the same group (the Didier Raoult's lab who has been pioneering its effectiveness) released this past Friday.

https://www.mediterranee-infection.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/COVID-IHU-2-1.pdf

Now with 80 patients in the study. The clinic has treated some 700 persons and have 1 death as of last week Friday.

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Ah, CNN. Gatekeepers of the truth. Fresh off their multi-million dollar settlement with the Covington kid over literally reporting fake news.

LOL!

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Mr_MacPhisto posted...

Ah, CNN. Gatekeepers of the truth.

The irony of saying this when you're a diehard Donnie cultist, lmao

known2FAIL posted...

Same Source:

https://www.goodrx.com/blog/coronavirus-medicine-chloroquine-hydroxychloroquine-as-covid19-treatment/

Did you even read what you posted?

None of your comments on the sources you've provided demonstrate any sort of reading comprehension.

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TommyG663513 posted...

Did you even read what you posted?

None of your comments on the sources you've provided demonstrate any sort of reading comprehension.

Really? What do you want? Evidence that it works 100% without fail? Is that what you are looking for? Because Im reading that it does work but we dont have enough studies to prove it works without question. Which one is the one you questioned? Study 3? The one with the lower dose of the drug?

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