Current Events > For those of you who think CNN is fake news, reminder...

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Resaix posted...

The irony of saying this when you're a diehard Donnie cultist, lmao

Doesn't make his statement any less true. Mainstream media has been bought out, this should have been known and acknowledged a long time ago.

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TommyG663513 posted...

Did you even read what you posted?

None of your comments on the sources you've provided demonstrate any sort of reading comprehension.

I'm wondering if this is a giant April Fools joke.

The dudes name is literally "Known to fail" lmao

Sad_Face posted...

Don't know what CNN has said, here's an article of France straight up hiding it and politics getting in the way of addressing its effectiveness (read this article!),

https://www.unz.com/pescobar/why-france-is-hiding-a-cheap-and-tested-virus-cure/

yet here is the newest study from the same group (the Didier Raoult's lab who has been pioneering its effectiveness) released this past Friday, and is the follow up study to the 2nd study known2Fail posted.

https://www.mediterranee-infection.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/COVID-IHU-2-1.pdf

Now with 80 patients in the study. The clinic has treated some 700 persons and have 1 death as of last week Friday.

The first study was trash, straight up garbage. "France is hiding treatments" based on that study, then that's just stupid bullshit propoganda.

I'll read the second one later and see if it's legit.

And not to get off track, the argument is not weather it works or doesn't. It's that fox literally did a whole segment on a fake study that doesn't exist.

Re: Didier Raoult

https://twitter.com/schneiderleonid/status/1242889208651448322?s=19

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https://www.physiciansweekly.com/hydroxychloroquine-azithromycin-for-covid-19-new-clinical-trial-results/

https://www.mediterranee-infection.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/COVID-IHU-2-1.pdf

https://www.clinicaltrialsarena.com/news/pfizer-data-azithromycin-covid-19-trial/

https://www.wsj.com/articles/an-update-on-the-coronavirus-treatment-11585509827

Its amazing that you guys keep saying Im trolling while ignoring facts

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known2FAIL posted...

Really? What do you want? Evidence that it works 100% without fail? Is that what you are looking for? Because Im reading that it does work but we dont have enough studies to prove it works without question. Which one is the one you questioned? Study 3? The one with the lower dose of the drug?

Um the amount of evidence you've provided is extremely weak. You don't understand what proof is. The studies you've provided are just a few studies that don't show anything conclusive. Those are just very early studies that lead to more studies being performed.

The very studies you provided acknowledge the limitations of the data provided and the need for more data and directions for further research. That doesn't mean we are anywhere close to labeling this as an effective treatment.

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Look up Vladimir Zalenko, guy who keeps claiming bs that Fox News kept having on. That's what I've been referring to.

Literal fake news.

TommyG663513 posted...

Um the amount of evidence you've provided is extremely weak. You don't understand what proof is. The studies you've provided are just a few studies that don't show anything conclusive. Those are just very early studies that lead to more studies being performed.

The very studies you provided acknowledge the limitations of the data provided and the need for more data and directions for further research. That doesn't mean we are anywhere close to labeling this as an effective treatment.

I agree. You need a massive study for that proof but doing massive studies isnt ideal during a pandemic. People are trying to save lives. There is so many smaller studies that show it works. Saying it doesnt work because people cant do a full blown study is foolish. It clearly is working to some extent

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known2FAIL posted...

Im aware. People cant do full clinical trials of the drug right now. Im curious if people even know what the drug even does at this point.

Yes. Yes I do. I have extensive experience with this shit. As I was forced to take inappropriate dosages every day for weeks, in what would eventually become a scandal plastered everywhere in the news. One of several related to the military and chloroquine based drugs.

It's an anti parasite 'drug'. It's actually a chemical. And that's parasites, as in at least a single celled organism.

The chloroquine part is chloroquine phosphate. This is the active anti malaria ingredient, as found in quinine, hydroxychloroquine, mefloquine/larian etc.

This works by being literally a toxic poison. Its toxic enough to kill off single celled organisms, like the protozoan parasite malaria... but hopefully administered in doses small enough to not kill the host.

That couple didnt drink fish tank cleaner. It is not a cleaner, it is medicine for fishes. Anti parasite medicine. It has the same exact function for fish, as in humans and in the exact same way, with the same exact chemical, chloroquine. You treat the water and it kills parasites.

Unfortunately for them, chloroquine is extremely potent and meant to be used in minute dosages. 1 gram of their fish antiparasite chemical can treat 45 gallons of water.

Viruses, which arent exactly living organisms the way most living organisms are understood, cant be poisoned. In the scant amount of cases where the chloroquine can effectively disrupt the virus, it does so by its nature of binding onto cells (as the virus is too small for it to bind with), blocking where the virus would normally attach, depending on the size and shape of the virus and how it attacks cells.

It also binds competitively with 5-HT3 receptors in the brain and nueral network, inhibiting them, and causing altered behavior. Particularly increased aggression, paranoia, depression, and paranoid hallucinations. The effects are greatly exacerbated by stress. Yeah. Think about that one for a sec.

Hydroxichloroquine is actually two drugs. The latter is of course the anti parasite drug, while the former is an immune system suppressant. Yeah. Think about that one.

Chloroquine is not an anti viral, it was not designed to be effective against viruses, and it disrupts very very very few viruses in dosages small enough to be non lethal in humans.

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known2FAIL posted...

https://www.physiciansweekly.com/hydroxychloroquine-azithromycin-for-covid-19-new-clinical-trial-results/

https://www.mediterranee-infection.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/COVID-IHU-2-1.pdf

https://www.clinicaltrialsarena.com/news/pfizer-data-azithromycin-covid-19-trial/

https://www.wsj.com/articles/an-update-on-the-coronavirus-treatment-11585509827

Its amazing that you guys keep saying Im trolling while ignoring facts

You seem very determined to not get it. None of those studies prove anything. Shown to be effective is a different standard. This is scientists sharing data. This isn't proven treatment. This is an area we should be doing more research on.

Again, the very studies you cited acknowledge this limitations if you would bother to read them.

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known2FAIL posted...

I agree. You need a massive study for that proof but doing massive studies isnt ideal during a pandemic. People are trying to save lives. There is so many smaller studies that show it works. Saying it doesnt work because people cant do a full blown study is foolish. It clearly is working to some extent

So you aren't reading or understanding your studies at all? You seem determined to not listen?

It can be harmful to roll something out so unproven. It "working" to some extent means we should keep studying it. Not that we should just start treating the public with it.

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