Board 8 > [VGMC] Video Game Music Contest Topic 4 -- Results and Discussion

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barreldragon88
05/19/20 11:50:31 PM
#451:


Sighhh

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Haste_2
05/20/20 12:20:57 AM
#452:


Wow, I didn't expect Id ~ Purpose to get crushed like that. Scars of FAUNA has legit strength, apparently, and so does Imbrium. Or maybe Id is just weak now. People are growing tired of it, maybe.... not me, though. I've only known about it for about two years.

Aw, I was close to making that group, but no cigar! (I'm not quite 1337 enough) I wonder what unanimous votes I would have ruined if I was part of the group? 14 matches, haha, almost twice as many defections as sergio. But what about Mr. Lasastryke? He has pretty good compatibility with that group, as well, with a 68.5% average. My average with the group is 68.6%.

Mr. Lasastryke:
Drakengard 3 - Kuroi Ita ~ The Black Song (International Version) vs. Persona 3 - Memories of You
Phantasy Star Online 2 - GUERRANT-OFENZA-SUPRONT-UNNE vs. Mario & Luigi: Dream Team - Dreamy Somnom Labyrinth
Idola Phantasy Star Saga - Endeavour vs. Shin Megami Tensei IV - B2 Battle
Kirby Triple Deluxe - Moonstruck Blossomv s. Ciel Nosurge - CLASS::CIEL_NOSURGE;
Cloudbuilt: Defiance - Monolith vs. Cytus II - Chocolate Missile
Touhou 10: Mountain of Faith. - The Venerable Ancient Battlefield ~ Suwa Foughten Field vs. Scott Pilgrim vs. The World - Another Winter

Mr. Lasastryke defected on fewer matches than sergio! I'm not sure what the defender theme is for Mr. Lasastryke, though.... defender of atmospheric music, maybe?

My own list of unanimous vote defections are here below. I'm not sure what my defender theme is, but maybe, um, JRPG?
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1r_1UPga4hFp5UmSbevi8K53iF0qkq4W1ZlFFkaRl5_w/edit?usp=sharing

As for my defecting on fourteen matches... apparently I have more "weird" opinions relative to the group compared to Lasastryke. On the other hand, it seems to imply that I'm more likely to agree with the group majority on matches when they don't 100% agree, compared to Mr. Lasastryke.

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cakophon
05/20/20 10:56:17 AM
#453:


azuarc posted...
Mighty Switch Force! lost because it got anagrammed. Or rather, because it didn't.

mighty switch force
fight my orc, witches
smithy w/ chic forge
gothic whimsy (C fret)
fetch with my corgis

PIayer_0 posted...
cakophon
Onboro > The Apex of the World (Rain)

wait did u all seriously vote apex on this one? wow
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azuarc
05/20/20 11:57:22 AM
#454:


The joke about being anagrammed (aside from Deltarune=Undertale) is that we have a user on the board named Anagram who makes a lot of poll topics and the running joke is that he always leaves the most obvious option off the poll.

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Mr Lasastryke
05/20/20 5:43:50 PM
#455:


i have no idea what i am but if i can be the "defender of jazz fusion-ish music," i'll settle for that.

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sergiocornaga
05/20/20 10:16:10 PM
#456:


Mac Arrowny posted...
Hmm, Brain Power is the only song I care about in there, but it doesn't seem like other people like it. Maybe I just won't bother voting?
This is exactly what the rule against looking at votes is supposed to prevent, so you should absolutely vote for your favourite without knowing if others support it.
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Mac Arrowny
05/20/20 10:28:16 PM
#457:


sergiocornaga posted...

This is exactly what the rule against looking at votes is supposed to prevent, so you should absolutely vote for your favourite without knowing if others support it.


That's not what I'm talking about. I mean that there's no point having it win the wildcard because it'll just lose again as soon as it gets into the contest.
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Hbthebattle
05/20/20 10:30:54 PM
#458:


Mac Arrowny posted...


That's not what I'm talking about. I mean that there's no point having it win the wildcard because it'll just lose again as soon as it gets into the contest.

If it wins the Wildcard, it would have people who are pulling for it to win.
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Toxtricity
05/20/20 10:31:33 PM
#459:


Mr Lasastryke posted...
i have no idea what i am but if i can be the "defender of jazz fusion-ish music," i'll settle for that.

the problem is that's what literally everyone in that group likes lol. the way you stick out based on those exceptions is maybe...kinda similar to the way place did but a different set of songs. leaning more towards things that sound artificial more often.
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azuarc
05/20/20 10:34:34 PM
#460:


Results: day 51:
Apostle's Maraud > Battle! (Colress), 30-10
TIGAR (All Phase Mix) > The world of spirit, 25-14

Pokemon lost because it tried to see things as black and white.
Dariusburst lost because it needed its darius removed.

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NFUN
05/20/20 10:36:26 PM
#461:


Battle! (Colress)? More like Battle! (COWMEDmore)!
The world of spirit? More like The world of OWNED

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NFUN
05/20/20 10:36:35 PM
#462:


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PIayer_0
05/20/20 10:38:52 PM
#463:


Dang, I'm gonna be split between Waterworks/King Noah/World of spirit for this one...probably +3 on the latter two

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sergiocornaga
05/20/20 10:41:13 PM
#464:


Right so, today's chosen wildcard will have to take on TIGAR (All Phase Mix), the very song I just voted for!

That probably won't impact my vote in any meaningful way.
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-hotdogturtle--
05/20/20 10:43:24 PM
#465:


Wow, I didn't realize that Colress was losing by that much. Makes me feel less bad about being indecisive.

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Mac Arrowny
05/20/20 10:43:44 PM
#466:


Hbthebattle posted...


If it wins the Wildcard, it would have people who are pulling for it to win.


It got 15 votes in the contest proper. That would be more than enough to win the wildcard.
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Haste_2
05/20/20 11:10:19 PM
#467:


azuarc posted...
Apostle's Maraud > Battle! (Colress), 30-10

Agh, so painful to see it lose so badly.... :[


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PIayer_0
05/20/20 11:27:54 PM
#468:


Colress only learned to count to 10!

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Haste_2
05/20/20 11:30:32 PM
#469:


Maybe it got SFFed and could actually be a threat against something else! I'll be tossing it a vote in the next wildcard match, for sure.

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azuarc
05/21/20 3:41:13 PM
#470:


Just added the next block of songs to the wildcard playlist.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLW9O9mntH1RHpOYKBrjlkEsO1nMT0JTx7

Haven't decided if I'm going to rotate the list so the current matches are on top or not.

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azuarc
05/21/20 10:04:47 PM
#471:


Results, wildcard A1:
45 - Imbrium
43 - Id ~ Purpose
35 - Ink Long Dry
33 - One Final Effort
27 - Silver Star Crysta Kaleido
24 - Love You Love You Love
23 - Brain Power
17 - Fax Factory
9 - Title

Very dramatic finish. And by dramatic, I mean drama-inducing. But it certainly was exciting!

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Hbthebattle
05/21/20 10:08:03 PM
#472:


this is honestly kinda fucking bullshit
not only did lefty vote with 7 SECONDS REMAINING just to be obnoxious
haste's voteswap also fucked over id
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TheArkOfTurus
05/21/20 10:10:44 PM
#473:


Well, at least a rematch of a 31-24 match from round 1 is better than a rematch of a 27-15 match that just happened, I guess?

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xp1337
05/21/20 10:10:45 PM
#474:


lefty hero of the match

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NFUN
05/21/20 10:14:47 PM
#475:


xp1337 posted...
lefty and haste hero of the match


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Hbthebattle
05/21/20 10:15:41 PM
#476:


i hate you all
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Janus5k
05/21/20 10:21:43 PM
#477:


lefty with a deciding vote at the last minute who could have foreseen this

Good winner, almost gave it points

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th3l3fty
05/21/20 10:30:47 PM
#478:


TheArkOfTurus posted...
Well, at least a rematch of a 31-24 match from round 1 is better than a rematch of a 27-15 match that just happened, I guess?

wildcards swap divisions, so Imbrium faces TIGAR, not FAUNA
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TheArkOfTurus
05/21/20 10:32:22 PM
#479:


Oh. Yeah, that makes more sense.

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th3l3fty
05/21/20 10:32:45 PM
#480:


also yeah uh

voting immediately before deadlines has kind of been my shtick for over a decade now

it's just what I do
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DoctorJimmy133
05/22/20 12:01:37 AM
#481:


Ink Long Dry > One Final Effort where was this day 1

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Mac Arrowny
05/22/20 12:48:33 AM
#482:


DoctorJimmy133 posted...
Ink Long Dry > One Final Effort where was this day 1


Strength in this format is very different from strength in a 1 on 1 match.
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NFUN
05/22/20 12:56:58 AM
#483:


Where. Was. This. Day. One.

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barreldragon88
05/22/20 1:45:11 AM
#484:


haste lives up to his name

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PIayer_0
05/22/20 2:05:53 PM
#485:


Huh, I already +3'd Id and Brain Power so there was nothing more I could do, and Imbrium was my third choice anyways. The only way I'd regret my vote is if Imbrium narrowly got second behind some song I didn't like.

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Haste_2
05/22/20 4:43:00 PM
#486:


Oh, wow, my change made a difference. What a miracle! What a tragedy!

That's right. I almost forgot deo has his rankings on a spreadsheet, as well! I was looking for it a while back but wasn't able to find it, but I found it. If you don't mind, I'll post the list now that you're basically finished with the rating part of it. >_>

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1XWpotY28NHa3ncCjRxq4aoE3Cl7f6ZdvJ3uxEGpkPy8/edit?usp=sharing

Anyway... comments. Deo doesn't seem as quick to give low ratings as Tox, yet he's more selective in the high ratings, awarding a 9 or higher to only 21 participants. How many of deo's would I also award a 9+ rating to? Turns out there are five: Massive X, Thermosphere, Battle! Colress, -(Isoleucine)-, and Suite Photoconductivity. Only 51 were given an 8 rating or higher, too. It's also notable that banshiryuu has an average rating of about an 8.1 to the ToC field, but only about 7.6 average for VGM XIV contestants. Those two figures are VERY close to my own, actually! Mycro was the opposite, rating the VGMC XIV field higher. One other interesting thing is that I remembered deo ranking Daddy Mulk really low, but I didn't realize it was #56! I ranked it at the very bottom, as well.

Speaking of average ratings, IMO the round 2 field in the main bracket is a big improvement (average rating of 7.9) over round 1 (average rating of 7.4)!

barreldragon88 posted...
haste lives up to his name

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NFUN
05/22/20 4:47:29 PM
#487:


Haste_2 posted...
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Haste_2 because you voted twice

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Haste_2
05/22/20 5:16:22 PM
#488:


But I didn't vote twice... I only changed my vote. Once. Granted, I made two posts containing votes.

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Toxtricity
05/22/20 6:00:41 PM
#489:


Haste is HASTY, and votes before making a solidified decision and has to revise the votes later!
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PIayer_0
05/22/20 6:21:56 PM
#490:


^I also thought this was the joke

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Hbthebattle
05/22/20 6:46:50 PM
#491:


Yeah, I agree
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Haste_2
05/22/20 9:49:00 PM
#492:


Yeah, that sounds more like it!

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xp1337
05/22/20 10:18:20 PM
#493:


idk maybe azuarc will be here soon but I AM HERE now which is rarety these days so

Unofficial Results, Day 53:

EXEC_Z/. < GUERRANT-OFENZA-SUPRONT-UNNE, 19-22
AI[UE]OON < Kanata no Rafflesia, 17-24

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banshiryuu
05/22/20 10:18:44 PM
#494:


Results, day 53:
EXEC_Z/. < GUERRANT-OFENZA-SUPRONT-UNNE, 19-22
AI[UE]OON < Kanata no Rafflesia, 17-24

Ar tonelico III lost because the alphabet ends at Z.
Arcaea lost because it couldn't decide which order the alphabet even goes in.

(these messages brought to you tentatively until/if azu makes official ones!!)

OOPS NINJAD BY 27 SECONDS but yeah azu's out today so these are the official ones
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xp1337
05/22/20 10:19:42 PM
#495:


you come for the king of unofficial vote counter you best not miss

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NFUN
05/22/20 10:20:24 PM
#496:


EXEC_Z/.? More like OWNE_D/!!
AI[UE]OON? More like AI[UE]OWNED!

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PIayer_0
05/22/20 10:21:07 PM
#497:


the fastest tally in the west

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PIayer_0
05/23/20 2:05:21 PM
#498:


Well, we're almost at 500 but I'm gonna overview the big graph while everyone's distracted by the wildcard! This one has a lower threshold of 60% compatibility required and shows way more connections as a result.


In one region, we have the anime/JRPG people where a lot of the B8 veterans lie, centered around lem and TRE! There is a complete cluster of P0-lem-TRE-dowolf and some interesting outer clusters like xp-Arti-pyre. Also HBJ barely hanging on by their connection to azuarc! I guess my group leans slightly more orchestral compared to the crowd? (azuarc almost completes the 5-cluster, just missing a connection to lem)


On the other side, there are actually two separate regions which have pretty much merged at this point! One feels like cool electronic/retro noises with GameBop, hotdog, and everyone to their northeast, while the other is the familiar prog/complex cluster to the southwest. There are quite a few people here who don't have a lot of connections and are being pulled by very opposing forces, like Hb, rwlh, and NFUN. But they're not the only ones with "unique" taste!


Some people don't even have 60% compatibility with anyone! They are left to float out in empty space, eternally waiting for someone to help them reconnect to society...

These are currently based on round 1 results and will surely continue to change as we get more voting data! I expect the general range of compatibilities will become less wide as relationships converge and people are forced to pick between closely-matched opponents in the later rounds.

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Hbthebattle
05/23/20 2:06:22 PM
#499:


Vote for
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Hbthebattle
05/23/20 2:06:32 PM
#500:


Fire Island Volcano
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