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tigerslashII
03/29/20 12:17:59 PM
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Tired-Insomniac posted...
Progress!
What exactly is the lockdown policy doing again?

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Antifar
03/29/20 12:24:44 PM
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Antifar
03/29/20 12:33:02 PM
#254:


https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/29/business/coronavirus-us-ventilator-shortage.html?referringSource=articleShare
Thirteen years ago, a group of U.S. public health officials came up with a plan to address what they regarded as one of the medical systems crucial vulnerabilities: a shortage of ventilators.

The breathing-assistance machines tended to be bulky, expensive and limited in number. The plan was to build a large fleet of inexpensive portable devices to deploy in a flu pandemic or another crisis.

Money was budgeted. A federal contract was signed. Work got underway.

And then things suddenly veered off course. A multibillion-dollar maker of medical devices bought the small California company that had been hired to design the new machines. The project ultimately produced zero ventilators.

That failure delayed the development of an affordable ventilator by at least half a decade, depriving hospitals, states and the federal government of the ability to stock up. The federal government started over with another company in 2014, whose ventilator was approved only last year and whose products have not yet been delivered.
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In April 2012, a senior Health and Human Services official testified before Congress that the program was on schedule to file for market approval in September 2013. After that, the machines would go into production.

Then everything changed.

The medical device industry was undergoing rapid consolidation, with one company after another merging with or acquiring other makers. Manufacturers wanted to pitch themselves as one-stop shops for hospitals, which were getting bigger, and that meant offering a broader suite of products. In May 2012, Covidien, a large medical device manufacturer, agreed to buy Newport for just over $100 million.

Covidien a publicly traded company with sales of $12 billion that year already sold traditional ventilators, but that was only a small part of its multifaceted businesses. In 2012 alone, Covidien bought five other medical device companies, in addition to Newport.

Newport executives and government officials working on the ventilator contract said they immediately noticed a change when Covidien took over. Developing inexpensive portable ventilators no longer seemed like a top priority.

Newport applied in June 2012 for clearance from the Food and Drug Administration to market the device, but two former federal officials said Covidien had demanded additional funding and a higher sales price for the ventilators. The government gave the company an additional $1.4 million, a drop in the bucket for a company Covidiens size.

Government officials and executives at rival ventilator companies said they suspected that Covidien had acquired Newport to prevent it from building a cheaper product that would undermine Covidiens profits from its existing ventilator business.

Some Newport executives who worked on the project were reassigned to other roles. Others decided to leave the company.

Up until the time the company sold, I was really happy and excited about the project, said Hong-Lin Du, Newports president at the time of its sale. Then I was assigned to a different job.

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tigerslashII
03/29/20 12:35:20 PM
#255:


2014
Thanks Obama.

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NinjaBreakfast
03/29/20 12:35:59 PM
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kingdrake2
03/29/20 12:37:29 PM
#257:


NinjaBreakfast posted...
wow


wish he sought some help, maybe it could've been prevented :(.
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LampChop
03/29/20 12:37:48 PM
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LampChop
03/29/20 12:41:05 PM
#259:


NinjaBreakfast posted...
https://www.thelocal.de/20200329/german-minister-commits-suicide-due-to-coronavirus-worries

wow
And this is why people need to log off twitter, take a break from the media, and even on here. Remember, the more you dread, the more you say, and think the very worst possible outcomes, it not only affects you, but others as well. The blackhole of despair.
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Scorsese2002
03/29/20 12:41:52 PM
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Jx1010
03/29/20 12:43:50 PM
#261:


LampChop posted...
And this is why people need to log off twitter, take a break from the media, and even on here. Remember, the more you dread, the more you say, and think the very worst possible outcomes, it not only affects you, but others as well. The blackhole of despair.
You cant blame people tho.
Government did nothing while the virus was spreading in january and as we stand today, situation only gets worst while the government only cares about the economy and acts like they are powerless.
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tigerslashII
03/29/20 12:44:39 PM
#262:


LampChop posted...
And this is why people need to log off twitter, take a break from the media, and even on here. Remember, the more you dread, the more you say, and think the very worst possible outcomes, it not only affects you, but others as well. The blackhole of despair.
I'm sorry I thought this was an apocalypse not LampChop's get-a-long sing-a-long.

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Resaix
03/29/20 12:44:55 PM
#263:


Jx1010 posted...
You cant blame people tho.
Government did nothing while the virus was spreading in january and as we stand today, situation only gets worst while the government only cares about the economy and acts like they are powerless.
It's just Trump and some red states

Most states are taking this seriously and governors are cracking down
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LampChop
03/29/20 12:46:10 PM
#264:


Jx1010 posted...
You cant blame people tho.
Government did nothing while the virus was spreading in january and as we stand today, situation only gets worst while the government only cares about the economy and acts like they are powerless.
There's nothing that could have prevented this(maybe it wouldn't have been as big, but that's a maybe)other than a time machine, and going back to stop that one moment, and source, which nobody even knows as well.
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Jx1010
03/29/20 12:47:18 PM
#265:


Resaix posted...
It's just Trump and some red states

Most states are taking this seriously and governors are cracking down
Can u just stop with the politics.... the whole government is responsible for this.
People are getting infected, dying and people like u just wanna cry trump.
Yea hes doing a terrible job but hes not the only one.
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tigerslashII
03/29/20 12:49:10 PM
#266:


Jx1010 posted...
Can u just stop with the politics.... the whole government is responsible for this.
People are getting infected, dying and people like u just wanna cry trump.
Yea hes doing a terrible job but hes not the only one.
No, no, no.

China is responsible for this.

Never forget, China lied, people died.

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archedsoul
03/29/20 12:49:46 PM
#267:


Scorsese2002 posted...
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/new-york-coronavirus-hospital-video-leak-us-cases-queens-a9430076.html
That hospital is a few blocks from Corona. Scary coincidence the epicenter of the epicenter in the US is there.




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Jx1010
03/29/20 12:49:53 PM
#268:


LampChop posted...
There's nothing that could have prevented this(maybe it wouldn't have been as big, but that's a maybe)other than a time machine, and going back to stop that one moment, and source, which nobody even knows as well.
You are so full of shit






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LampChop
03/29/20 12:50:15 PM
#269:


tigerslashII posted...
I'm sorry I thought this was an apocalypse not LampChop's get-a-long sing-a-long.
With a chop chop here. And a chop chop there. Here a chop, there a chop, everywhere chop chop.
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Antifar
03/29/20 12:52:25 PM
#270:


LampChop posted...

Names. We need names of these motherfuckers.

Covidien
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LampChop
03/29/20 12:55:06 PM
#271:


Jx1010 posted...
You are so full of shit





Can't read can you? You blame the government for doing nothing, my reply was, the virus was going to be impossible to stop, maybe early preparation would have prevented it from getting as big as it did, but it was a maybe. What the fuck is your reply, and those links? It has nothing to do with what I said.
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NeoShadowhen
03/29/20 12:56:41 PM
#272:


twitterfriends posted...
So Trump sent PPE to China, whats worse he did it on Feb 7th, two layers of idiocy and incompetency that directly cost American lives

https://twitter.com/missamander/status/1244151638203314179?s=21

As did Canada. As did a lot of countries.
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Resaix
03/29/20 12:58:23 PM
#273:


Jx1010 posted...
People are getting infected, dying and people like u just wanna cry trump.
The man's inaction and ineptitude are directly resulting in a far higher amount of cases and deaths than there would have been if he had taken action sooner instead of downplaying
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NeoShadowhen
03/29/20 12:59:45 PM
#274:


Resaix posted...
The man's inaction and ineptitude are directly resulting in a far higher amount of cases and deaths than there would have been if he had taken action sooner instead of downplaying

What actions would have helped?
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EndOfDiscOne
03/29/20 1:01:29 PM
#275:


NeoShadowhen posted...
What actions would have helped?
Ramping up production of test kits, ventilators, masks, etc. Aggressive testing and isolation at hot spots back in January.

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Antifar
03/29/20 1:06:20 PM
#276:


https://twitter.com/NickReisman/status/1243946901629796353

Andrew Cuomo is not the hero you're looking for
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NeoShadowhen
03/29/20 1:06:23 PM
#277:


EndOfDiscOne posted...
Ramping up production of test kits, ventilators, masks, etc. Aggressive testing and isolation at hot spots back in January.

Regrettably, most of the manufacturing of ventilators and masks is in China. There was even an incident where a ship of PPE that we had paid for was turned around and China kept it. Trump could have possibly invoked the war powers act and one earlier what has happened since, with masks being produced by keyboard companies and ventilators being produced by auto manufacturers, but nobody would have gone along with it back in January.

Test kits were bungled early on. I hope there is an investigation into who dropped the ball and cases so many to be defective in that crucial early time.
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Jx1010
03/29/20 1:09:34 PM
#278:


Resaix posted...
The man's inaction and ineptitude are directly resulting in a far higher amount of cases and deaths than there would have been if he had taken action sooner instead of downplaying
Well thank u for stating the obvious
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Cowthief
03/29/20 1:47:14 PM
#279:


Remember when a lead moderator kept trolling the first three iterations of this topic and immediately stopped posting when Americans started dying?

Really makes you think.

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Smackems
03/29/20 1:48:58 PM
#280:


EndOfDiscOne posted...
Ramping up production of test kits, ventilators, masks, etc. Aggressive testing and isolation at hot spots back in January.
That woulda been nice.

There's a parallel universe where that actually happened I'm sure. Wonder how they doing over there

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Corrik7
03/29/20 1:50:55 PM
#281:


Cowthief posted...
Remember when a lead moderator kept trolling the first three iterations of this topic and immediately stopped posting when Americans started dying?

Really makes you think.

This happened on ResetERA also, which should show where the bias of moderator lie, in that they were moderating people for "fearmongering" for taking the situation seriously before it was in our backyard.

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Maeiv
03/29/20 1:52:19 PM
#282:


Literally tweeting about RATINGS

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1244320571653074951

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Awesome
03/29/20 2:01:03 PM
#284:


Corrik7 posted...
This happened on ResetERA also, which should show where the bias of moderator lie, in that they were moderating people for "fearmongering" for taking the situation seriously before it was in our backyard.

yeah i remember

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EndOfDiscOne
03/29/20 2:04:07 PM
#285:


Corrik7 posted...
This happened on ResetERA also, which should show where the bias of moderator lie, in that they were moderating people for "fearmongering" for taking the situation seriously before it was in our backyard.
How did that bastion of progressiveness not see this coming?

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LameFAQs
03/29/20 2:06:25 PM
#286:


Maeiv posted...
Literally tweeting about RATINGS

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1244320571653074951


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Antifar
03/29/20 2:06:40 PM
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Corrik7
03/29/20 2:09:42 PM
#288:


EndOfDiscOne posted...
How did that bastion of progressiveness not see this coming?
They were too worried about Trump supposedly being racist by banning travel to China against WHO recommendations.

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Jx1010
03/29/20 2:13:30 PM
#289:


Cowthief posted...
Remember when a lead moderator kept trolling the first three iterations of this topic and immediately stopped posting when Americans started dying?

Really makes you think.
O yea I remember.
And alot of users kept insulting people for fear mongering. Where are they now?
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Noraneko_Vel
03/29/20 2:14:34 PM
#290:


Jx1010 posted...
And alot of users kept insulting people for fear mongering. Where are they now?

In hospital or quarantine

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Jx1010
03/29/20 2:16:13 PM
#291:


For people who still have to work during coronavirus:



https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/pandemic/ffcra-employee-paid-leave
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sktgamer_13dude
03/29/20 2:16:52 PM
#292:


Jx1010 posted...
Thats what I said and what was said in the video, how is that fake when I say it but not when u say it?
You literally said any abortion type can be performed at any time.

Thats not true now shut the fuck up.

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CobraGT
03/29/20 2:17:53 PM
#293:


solosnake posted...
https://twitter.com/NAkufoAddo/status/1243833823458181120

President of Ghana


Someone said this. Finally. @solosnake

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Science Daily article about origin of SARS-CoV-2 https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/03/200317175442.htm
refer to Atlantic article for explanation.


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PickleRick2017
03/29/20 2:21:17 PM
#294:


Maeiv posted...
Literally tweeting about RATINGS

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1244320571653074951

By pointing out the number of viewers, he's drawing attention to how seriously the nation is taking this situation. The people want to know how Trump will make things better.
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Bluebomber182
03/29/20 2:26:54 PM
#295:


https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/1244277131728818176

stop dont come back
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OneThatFollows
03/29/20 2:28:32 PM
#296:


Bluebomber182 posted...
https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/1244277131728818176

stop dont come back

Seems like a bad idea chief

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Corrik7
03/29/20 2:30:39 PM
#297:


Jx1010 posted...
For people who still have to work during coronavirus:



https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/pandemic/ffcra-employee-paid-leave
50-500 employees. Affects less than 20% of American workers.

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ReiRei89
03/29/20 2:31:39 PM
#298:


Bluebomber182 posted...
https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/1244277131728818176

stop dont come back
Like I said in the other thread, it's going to be the idiot's version of "The Masque of the Red Death". Just watch.

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Thompson
03/29/20 2:32:32 PM
#299:


CobraGT posted...
solosnake posted...

https://twitter.com/NAkufoAddo/status/1243833823458181120

President of Ghana
It's just as sad as it's marvellous that a president of an unknown African country is more presidential than the president of the most powerful country on Earth.

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Antifar
03/29/20 3:19:24 PM
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Antifar
03/29/20 3:29:25 PM
#301:


Death Cult: Brazil

https://twitter.com/Stillberto/status/1244344668890030089
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