Poll of the Day > Reporter asks what Trump has to say to frightened Americans

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AnnoyedCops
03/20/20 7:11:41 PM
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What do you say to Americans who are scared, though? I guess, nearly 200 dead, 14,000 who are sick, millions as you witnessed who are scared right now. What do you say to Americans who are watching right now who are scared?

What would be a reasonable response to this question? Personally I would hope even if he is tired of answering similar questions or somehow feels attacked by the question, which merely states reasons people are frightened and gives Trump a platform to give some encouraging words that he would do so. If Trump thinks the virus is nothing to be scared of, whatever the reasoning, he could explain as much. instead...

Trump:
I say that youre a terrible reporter, thats what I say. I think its a very nasty question, and I think its a very bad signal that youre putting out to the American people. The American people are looking for answers and theyre looking for hope and youre doing sensationalism and the same with NBC and con-cast, I dont call it Comcast, I call it con-cast. ... You ought to be ashamed of yourself.

Honestly what's nasty about the question? I watched the whole video for context.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qw0T9RK0GrA

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HornedLion
03/20/20 7:13:11 PM
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Hes the president and hes more on edge than we are. Doesnt he know he has a super secret bunker with all the toilet paper he could ever want?

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Bugmeat
03/20/20 7:15:22 PM
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Doesnt he know he has a super secret bunker with all the toilet paper he could ever want?

And every single roll looks like this.

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reruns_revenge
03/20/20 7:23:15 PM
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It seems you are taking one question out of some type of exchange between the two people. What preceded that question and answer? What is the context.

Edit: I just watched the exchange. The first question included an embedded accusation that he was spinning information in a positive way to inspire a false sense of hope. The answer to that question was relatively reponsive. The second question which you're talking about seems to essentially again suggest that people should be frightened because the reporter didn't get what he wanted from the first question and wanted to perpetuate the same theme of distrust. The answer wasn't great, but that question wasn't designed to obtain information either. I mean, the fact that NBC posts it on youtube with the title that "Trump berates" the reporter kind of makes that clear.
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joemodda
03/20/20 7:33:05 PM
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Trump's relations with the MSM hasn't been the best to say the least, even before he was elected. I guess one way to interpret the context is that the MSM is just fearmongering and trying to bring down the president by scaring Americans into thinking he isn't doing enough (which, I should point out, may or may not be true but since it's the MSM vs. Trump, MSM will jump on the bandwagon regardless).

With that said, it's no surprise that the media is pulling off all the fearmongering since that's how they draw in those juicy tv ratings mmmmm

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AnnoyedCops
03/20/20 7:36:20 PM
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reruns_revenge posted...
It seems you are taking one question out of some type of exchange between the two people. What preceded that question and answer? What is the context.

Edit: I just watched the exchange. The first question included an embedded accusation that he was spinning information in a positive way to inspire a false sense of hope. The answer to that question was relatively reponsive. The second question which you're talking about seems to essentially again suggest that people should be frightened because the reporter didn't get what he wanted from the first question and wanted to perpetuate the same theme of distrust. The answer wasn't great, but that question wasn't designed to obtain information either. I mean, the fact that NBC posts it on youtube with the title that "Trump berates" the reporter kind of makes that clear.


Hmm, that's not how I see it. The reporter had just asked another question, asking if there was any possibility Trump was spreading false hope given the unproven nature of the treatments he was suggesting. Trump says no, essentially. Trump really had a lot of space to refute that he was giving false hope and give his perspective on it. Then I guess the same reporter gets called on again and is allowed to continue the conversation, resulting in the exchange in the OP. What is the nasty or sensationalist aspect of his question? Is his indication that people are scared supposed to be stoking the flames of hysteria somehow? I don't see him saying people "should" be frightened but observing that in fact they are which I can't argue with. The whole purpose of the question seems to be to give Trump an opportunity to say either why people should not be scared, or help them deal with the fear, something like that.

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papercup
03/20/20 7:36:42 PM
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Can we not have an orangutan for president anymore please and thank you

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weeb98
03/20/20 7:42:55 PM
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OhhhJa
03/20/20 7:48:21 PM
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Completely agree with trump. This reporter and the media in general are this opportunity to fearmonger and generate more hysteria. People should be calling them out
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reruns_revenge
03/20/20 8:06:57 PM
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AnnoyedCops posted...
Hmm, that's not how I see it. The reporter had just asked another question, asking if there was any possibility Trump was spreading false hope given the unproven nature of the treatments he was suggesting. Trump says no, essentially. Trump really had a lot of space to refute that he was giving false hope and give his perspective on it. Then I guess the same reporter gets called on again and is allowed to continue the conversation, resulting in the exchange in the OP. What is the nasty or sensationalist aspect of his question? Is his indication that people are scared supposed to be stoking the flames of hysteria somehow? I don't see him saying people "should" be frightened but observing that in fact they are which I can't argue with. The whole purpose of the question seems to be to give Trump an opportunity to say either why people should not be scared, or help them deal with the fear, something like that.

You're kidding, right? You don't see these are loaded questions that are not objective and designed to gather information and instead intended to make a point? I get that maybe I'm a lot more attuned to this type of behavior because I do a lot of work in an area where people know how to ask pure information gathering questions and questions designed to get a specific answer or make a specific point. You are really unable to see that asking the guy if he's spreading false hope "given the unproven nature of the treatments he was suggesting" is just a way to accuse him of spreading false hope in the form of a question? Because if all you wanted was information you'd do something like ask about the efficacy of the treatments first and then ask what message he was trying to convey to the public "given the unproven nature of the treatments he was suggesting".

It's like bad deposition or trial questioning 101.

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Lokarin
03/20/20 8:13:11 PM
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"Sir, we're looking for encouragement in this time of need"

Trump: "How dare you say this is a time of need"

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OhhhJa
03/20/20 8:14:37 PM
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Hope and optimism are enemies of the media
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OhhhJa
03/20/20 8:21:27 PM
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Lokarin posted...
"Sir, we're looking for encouragement in this time of need"

Trump: "How dare you say this is a time of need"
He answered the first question with plenty of positivity and the reporter responded with pointing out how many are dead and sick. They were sensationalist questions intended to fearmonger
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reruns_revenge
03/20/20 8:22:26 PM
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Lokarin posted...
"Sir, we're looking for encouragement in this time of need"

Trump: "How dare you say this is a time of need"
Question 1 was like:

You're wilfully misleading the public because these treatments are unproven.

The answer wasn't great, but somewhat responsive.

Question 2 with that prior context was more like:

What do you say to all of the people scared out of their minds because you're misleading them and doing such a bad job.

The answer to that question was basically fuck off with your accusations, which was even worse and petulant and something no leader should do, but it's not like there wasn't a build up to the reponse and the "question" wasn't designed to provoke and elicit it.

Hence the "Trump berates" reporter title that NBC gave to the video that I guess some people bite hook, line and sinker.
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Revelation34
03/20/20 8:43:12 PM
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papercup posted...
Can we not have an orangutan for president anymore please and thank you


We're getting 4 more years because of dinosaurs shitting on another dinosaur.
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Monopoman
03/20/20 9:03:45 PM
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He wasn't sensationalizing he is stating hard facts and asking a perfectly legitimate question. The problem is Trump doesn't know how to inspire people he only knows how to rile up his stupid crowd that attends his ridiculous rallies.

FDR would have handled that question brilliantly this is a man that guided the country though one of it's worst times in the history of the USA and inspired hope in people.
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AnnoyedCops
03/20/20 9:05:34 PM
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The first question was very mildly worded. He alludes to Trump's 'impulse to put a positive spin on things' not some evil desire to mislead. Yes it indicates a potential criticism but that doesn't mean it was designed to provoke. Even someone 'on your side' can ask a question like "what would you say to someone who criticizes what you're doing as x for y reason?". I think you can broach a criticism without being provocative. We need to be able to ask these questions. It wasn't some trick question that was impossible to answer.

I don't think the question about people being scared was intended as an escalation. Trump himself escalated the situation. The second question doesn't depend on Trump spreading false hope or not. It's 'OK, people are scared because of these facts, what would you say to comfort them?' He didn't say people were scared because of trump's reaction, he actually gave the objective reasons that people are feeling scared. The question still applies whether Trump is giving false hope or not. You're reading a lot into his intention with the question, and I'm sure you won't believe the reporter but he claims the purpose of the question was to give Trump a platform to comfort people.

He did literally berate him though. Whether you think it was justified or not. He angrily told him he should be ashamed of himself. It seems you agree the response was unwarranted, so how bad are the reporter's questions really? I guess I see it as a role of the press to question the government's messaging in a reasonable way

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OhhhJa
03/20/20 9:18:10 PM
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Imagine defending such blatant, thinly veiled fearmongering under the guise of reporting. The questions were both definitely incredibly antagonistic
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Blighboy
03/20/20 9:54:16 PM
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Ohhhja is contorting himself into hitherto unknown shapes to defend Trump but meanwhile pisses himself in anger whenever AOC finds a new kitchen appliance

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papercup
03/20/20 9:59:01 PM
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OhhhJa posted...
Imagine defending such blatant, thinly veiled fearmongering under the guise of reporting. The questions were both definitely incredibly antagonistic

It'd be funny if you weren't actually this delusional. Seek help kid

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hungrymike
03/20/20 10:00:39 PM
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I don't think what president trump said was bad. It seems to me the news is whipping everyone up into a frenzy. The way everyone is acting one would think it's Captain trips were dealing with
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reruns_revenge
03/20/20 10:12:39 PM
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AnnoyedCops posted...
The first question was very mildly worded. He alludes to Trump's 'impulse to put a positive spin on things' not some evil desire to mislead. Yes it indicates a potential criticism but that doesn't mean it was designed to provoke. Even someone 'on your side' can ask a question like "what would you say to someone who criticizes what you're doing as x for y reason?". I think you can broach a criticism without being provocative. We need to be able to ask these questions. It wasn't some trick question that was impossible to answer.

I don't think the question about people being scared was intended as an escalation. Trump himself escalated the situation. The second question doesn't depend on Trump spreading false hope or not. It's 'OK, people are scared because of these facts, what would you say to comfort them?' He didn't say people were scared because of trump's reaction, he actually gave the objective reasons that people are feeling scared. The question still applies whether Trump is giving false hope or not. You're reading a lot into his intention with the question, and I'm sure you won't believe the reporter but he claims the purpose of the question was to give Trump a platform to comfort people.

He did literally berate him though. Whether you think it was justified or not. He angrily told him he should be ashamed of himself. It seems you agree the response was unwarranted, so how bad are the reporter's questions really? I guess I see it as a role of the press to question the government's messaging in a reasonable way

You're strangely proving my point while unpersuasively disagreeing with it.

Yeah, anyone certainly could ask both questions in that sequence in an objective manner that seeks an informative without trying to establish an accusatory premise.

You make a couple of suggestions how that could be done. Here are a couple more:

There seems to be little evidence about the effectiveness of these treatments. Can you explain what information the government knows about the treatments and what steps will be taken to ensure that the public adequately understands the situation?

What would you tell people that are concerned about the virus and may be afraid that it will spread and lead to more deaths?

Of course, the reporter didn't do either, and I'm not going to repeat what I've already been said about the leading nature of both questions and what was wrong with them because it seems that you're nevertheless committed to saying they were perfectly fine while simultaneously identifying how they were not. Which to me is just plain weird, especially considering that the supposed question of your first post was essentiallu what was wrong with the question, and now you're flipping into an argument about how the press is entitled to ask shitty questions and he should do better than giving those shitty responses. I guess that's fine if that's the direction you want to go, but you're not just moving goalposts. You're creating an entirely new field of play.

Trump gets asked shitty, accusatory questions all the time. All politicians do, although he seems to get a lot more because of mutual dislike between him and the press. He's just far less adept at dealing with them compared to regular polticians because fundamentally he is not and never has been one. In fact, he can't do it at all. And his canned "nasty question" schtick is extremely lame. But his inability to properly respond to a shitty question does not make the question any less shitty. Just like your misuse of the words "literally" and "berate" to characterize the exchange doesn't make the situation involve him "literally berating" anyone when there wasn't any anger accompanying the rote and dispassionate canned response that he trots out regularly. He did it like he always does - down to using the same dumb adjectives and repetitive ad hominem nonsense without any emotion at all. So I suggest you consult your dictionary on that one.

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eating4fun
03/20/20 10:21:57 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKY7ravKgLw

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Monopoman
03/20/20 10:29:23 PM
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OhhhJa posted...
Imagine defending such blatant, thinly veiled fearmongering under the guise of reporting. The questions were both definitely incredibly antagonistic

More softball questions please, Trump like's questions as follows:

So what's it like being the richest President?
How much money do you have Sir?
Which kid are you most proud of Mr. President?
How great of a President do you think you are?
etc..

I swear Trump wilts the second he is asked a single tough question go look at how rough the reporters are overall with previous Presidents, it's not exclusive to Tump. Just because Fox and Friends bend over backwards to ensure they give the President easy questions means every other journalist has to step in line.
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OhhhJa
03/20/20 10:33:26 PM
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Naw all the softball questions, kiss ass questions were reserved for obama
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shadowsword87
03/20/20 10:36:03 PM
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I wonder, if in 15 years, when someone criticizes trump for a decision, people will still say "YEAH WELL OBAMA..." and then act like that actually refuted the criticism.

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OhhhJa
03/20/20 10:42:09 PM
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shadowsword87 posted...
I wonder, if in 15 years, when someone criticizes trump for a decision, people will still say "YEAH WELL OBAMA..." and then act like that actually refuted the criticism.
I think trump has done a good job with this honestly
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papercup
03/20/20 10:45:21 PM
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<img src="https://i.redd.it/vrw6m26yojn41.png">

Trump could not have done a WORSE job with this.

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Yellow
03/20/20 10:49:19 PM
#29:


Yeah that was typical Trump fashion, kind of funny. Basically "fuck you for scaring them"

Still doesn't mean I like his Conservative policies, because I don't, but as far as addressing the Corona virus dare I say he's done a half decent job? As far as I was expecting Trump to do.

Obviously he shouldn't have cut funding to the CDC in 2018 and that will lead to a lot of deaths, and I think he can cool it with the corporate stimulus packages, but the emergency UBI was a necessary move that even some Democrats opposed. Universal healthcare would have also helped a lot, a lot of Americans will go into debt for the treatment of Corona virus. He came out and said treatment will be free, but the insurance companies said no, but that's just what you can expect when you put your faith in the old system, and that's also his fault.

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NeoSioType
03/20/20 11:04:39 PM
#30:


In a parallel reality:

"Sir, we're all very scared the meteor's going to burn us all alive. This objective operational/planning stuff and your Trump-talk isn't helping.

...Could you maybe read us a few Bible verses to set our hearts at ease?"

Average viewer at home: !!!
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OhhhJa
03/20/20 11:32:42 PM
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papercup posted...
<img src="https://i.redd.it/vrw6m26yojn41.png">

Trump could not have done a WORSE job with this.
Italy population: 60 mil, 47000 cases
Spain population: 47 mil, 21000 cases
UK population: 66 mil, 4000 cases
US population: 330 mil, 19000 cases

I think he could definitely have done way worse my dude
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shadowsword87
03/21/20 12:09:40 AM
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OhhhJa posted...
I think trump has done a good job with this honestly

I mean with anything at all.

OhhhJa posted...
Italy population: 60 mil, 47000 cases
Spain population: 47 mil, 21000 cases
UK population: 66 mil, 4000 cases
US population: 330 mil, 19000 cases

I think he could definitely have done way worse my dude

If you think that this is the end, you're going to be deeply disappointed next week my dude.
We currently have 3 states that are effectively in shutdown, more are coming, I can promise you that.

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SunWuKung420
03/21/20 12:17:49 AM
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OhhhJa posted...
I think he could definitely have done way worse my dude

Considering that at least 60% of the US population is smarter than Donny boy, no one should be surprised.

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Mead
03/21/20 12:25:54 AM
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Trump wants to give me money, so I think hes great

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papercup
03/21/20 12:32:56 AM
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OhhhJa posted...
Italy population: 60 mil, 47000 cases
Spain population: 47 mil, 21000 cases
UK population: 66 mil, 4000 cases
US population: 330 mil, 19000 cases

I think he could definitely have done way worse my dude

The US was also not testing for 2 months because it was "a democrat hoax". and now that we are, we're already finding we do not have the medical equipment to meet the demand. shit is about to get BAD.

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Yellow
03/21/20 12:38:11 AM
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OhhhJa posted...
Italy population: 60 mil, 47000 cases
Spain population: 47 mil, 21000 cases
UK population: 66 mil, 4000 cases
US population: 330 mil, 19000 cases
A) The pandemic has just started
B) Those numbers are higher than you think, the biggest hospital in our city has only done 4 tests.

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papercup
03/21/20 1:36:56 PM
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I'd like to point out that since ohhhja posted that, the US's confirmed cases jumped 15%.

And again, those are just cases we know of. There's undoubtedly 10s or 100s of thousands we do not know of because, again there was no testing going on. The healthcare system is not prepared for this.

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OhhhJa
03/21/20 4:41:09 PM
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papercup posted...
I'd like to point out that since ohhhja posted that, the US's confirmed cases jumped 15%.

And again, those are just cases we know of. There's undoubtedly 10s or 100s of thousands we do not know of because, again there was no testing going on. The healthcare system is not prepared for this.
They're still increasing in other places too though
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Metalsonic66
03/21/20 5:40:12 PM
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Tag for more hilarity

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gguirao
03/22/20 3:32:15 AM
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The problem with the reporter's question is that it offends Trump's massive yet fragile ego.

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Gaawa_chan
03/22/20 6:37:26 AM
#41:


OhhhJa posted...
Completely agree with trump. This reporter and the media in general are this opportunity to fearmonger and generate more hysteria. People should be calling them out
Except that it was a softball question that could have been answered in a variety of ways that wouldn't have made Trump look like a complete numbnut.

Lokarin posted...
"Sir, we're looking for encouragement in this time of need"

Trump: "How dare you say this is a time of need"
Basically this, lol.

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wolfy42
03/22/20 7:10:00 AM
#42:


Information is changing too fast at this point, a day or two and everything we have been told or know seems to change. I don't even understand some of the information that is being put out there and considered normal.

I watched this broadcast and the information provided didn't seem to have any real basis, or answer any real question. They answered things like how many respirators are out there, and are you keeping your prommises, but the answers were something like "Yes we have 10,000 of them spread across the US, and manufacturrs are making more).

The question though is how many are going to be needed? It sounds like more than that many have been tested positive in NY alone at this point.

It seems to me that information is being spread through diverse sources, on the internet, local news shows etc, we need a freaking emergency virus channel that keeps us updated with what the heck is actually happenening.

While watching the broadcast someone posted in the chat that the gov of Wa is going to release a stay at home order for my state tomorrow. I sent that person a message for clarification but never heard back. Searching online don't show any reliable sources. We have no way to know what is going on right now until it freaking happens.

We need to up our game as far as reporting things at this point.

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Fierce_Deity_08
03/22/20 9:58:12 AM
#43:


Trump is seriously stressed out right now. He not only has to put up with this virus, but constant negativity from the left that has been going on for over three years.

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Jedibaracuda
03/22/20 10:05:11 AM
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Yeah, I imagine he gets asked that question several times a day ever since this outbreak happened.

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Blighboy
03/22/20 10:56:59 AM
#46:


Jedibaracuda posted...
Yeah, I imagine he gets asked that question several times a day ever since this outbreak happened.
And it's his job to be able to answer it

Fortunately he's instead decided to advertise fake Corona virus cures on Twitter.

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redline65
03/22/20 11:45:38 AM
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Trump should tell Americans theyre more likely to die in a car accident. Or from the seasonal flu. The amount of overreacting is ludicrous.
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papercup
03/22/20 11:52:16 AM
#48:


redline65 posted...
Trump should tell Americans theyre more likely to die in a car accident. Or from the seasonal flu. The amount of overreacting is ludicrous.

If anything people are underreacting. The rate at which new cases per day are reported is higher in the US than anywhere else in the world. The healthcare system will be overwhelmed.

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