Current Events > got 2 job offers - which one would you take?

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currently making 110k in new york city. here are my offers:

1. 240k in seattle
+ free meals at work
+ higher pay
+ 6 weeks vacation a year
- would need to pay rent
- apparently always rains in seattle
- don't know anyone in seattle
14.5k monthly take home salary after taxes

2. 170k in new york city
+ don't need to pay rent
+ friends, family, gf all here
+ great night life, lots of things to do
- no free food
- only 3 weeks vacation a year
- lower pay
9k monthly take home salary after taxes

curious as for everyone's input on this.

1 has no downside

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Either way it's more monies

Seattle. Even if the NYC job offered me 3x what that Seattle job was paying, I would stay the fuck out of NYC.
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If you know New York and like New York, then stay in New York.

It doesn't ALWAYS rain in Seattle.

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NY tbh

You already are comfortable here (I hope seeing as you're thinking about it instead of going with the higher paying job)

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>no poll

Do you live with your parents? Try to get the nyc job to match your other offer.

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Seattle is ground zero for Corona in america. I'd stay in NYC.

Zikten posted...

Seattle is ground zero for Corona in america. I'd stay in NYC.

I don't think it's looking much better there

What would you buy with 14.5K/mo that you'd be missing with "only" 9K/mo? And is it worth it to leave your family (and possibly your gf) behind?

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what is/are the job(s)?

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also it does rain like 9 months of the year. the only real time it consistently won't rain is the summer. then you get droughts.

Are you a coder/dev TC?

Either way, I know it's tough to leave your whole life behind but if you go to Seattle for a year it could be great for your career and overall earnings.

You can get a really nice place for 1.8k, pay $700 additional in other living expenses, and still take home 3k a month additional after taxes so 36k additional a year compared to the NYC option.

After that you can come back to NYC and probably still get at least 170k (if not higher but the economy might go into a full blown recession so who knows) and have 36k more in your pocket and more life experiences.

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Polycosm posted...

What would you buy with 14.5K/mo that you'd be missing with "only" 9K/mo? And is it worth it to leave your family (and possibly your gf) behind?

planning to save up to buy a house and start a family. seattle would only be temporary (2-3 years) until i get promoted and find a new job again in new york (hopefully).

TomNook20 posted...

Do you live with your parents? Try to get the nyc job to match your other offer.

they won't match because i didn't do that well on the interview

boxington posted...

what is/are the job(s)?

developer for both jobs

Zikten posted...

also it does rain like 9 months of the year. the only real time it consistently won't rain is the summer. then you get droughts.

this sounds... awful

TaZa92 posted...

Are you a coder/dev TC?

Either way, I know it's tough to leave your whole life behind but if you go to Seattle for a year it could be great for your career and overall earnings.

You can get a really nice place for 1.8k, pay $700 additional in other living expenses, and still take home 3k a month additional after taxes so 36k additional a year compared to the NYC option.

After that you can come back to NYC and probably still get at least 170k (if not higher but the economy might go into a full blown recession so who knows) and have 36k more in your pocket and more life experiences.

yes i am a developer. i would probably be aiming for 350k for my next move after 2-3 years (hopefully in new york) if i take the seattle offer.

Id take the Seattle job. Make some money for a few years then negotiate a better offer in NYC.

also it rarely snows in seattle too. the winter is just wet. it often rains on christmas day I think, at least that's how I remember it. I used to live in the county just north of Seattle for like 20 years.

Even if they paid the same I'd still take #1 for the free meals and more vacation

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Seattle for sure

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Evil_Evil_Evil_ posted...

yes i am a developer. i would probably be aiming for 350k for my next move after 2-3 years (hopefully in new york) if i take the seattle offer.

Are you in a managerial role now? Or are you able to command that as a straight up dev? I know it's possible in big tech but still pretty impressive. I work in tech/finance but I don't make as much.

How many years of experience do you have if you don't mind me asking? Either way you're probably a really good dev so I wouldn't expect your average techie to get there.

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How old are you?
What does your gf think?
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$240k as a developer is on the high end outside of management or extremely niche work. Take the Seattle job and enjoy the benefits, then use that experience and high pay to negotiate in your next job.

What exactly do you develop? Must be some kind of specialized business software or legacy maintenance stuff.

Zikten posted...

also it rarely snows in seattle too. the winter is just wet. it often rains on christmas day I think, at least that's how I remember it. I used to live in the county just north of Seattle for like 20 years.

snow isn't a problem for me since it didn't snow at all this year in new york city. i don't like rain but it wouldn't be a deal breaker to me.

TaZa92 posted...

Are you in a managerial role now? Or are you able to command that as a straight up dev? I know it's possible in big tech but still pretty impressive. I work in tech/finance but I don't make as much.

How many years of experience do you have if you don't mind me asking? Either way you're probably a really good dev so I wouldn't expect your average techie to get there.

no, just an individual contributor. i have 2.5 years of experience. my current and past teammates have always commended me on being an excellent engineer but i don't think i'm anything special.

emblem boy posted...

How old are you?
What does your gf think?

i'm 24. she is supportive of me relocating for work and keeping it long distance for the time being. not thinking about marriage yet but when i do, i will probably be back in new york.

treewojima posted...

$240k as a developer is on the high end outside of management or extremely niche work

No it's not, it's pretty normal in any major market.

What is abnormal is getting that at 2.5 yoe. Guess it's facebook or something similar, or did you manage to pull senior?

Anyway, unless the opportunity is really that much better in terms of career growth, I'd recommend the nyc job. I moved to Seattle without knowing anyone here, and if you're in a good place socially, I'd say that's worth more than the TC difference.


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you're only 24????

jesus, what am i doing with my life

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is 240K and 170K considered average salaries? Can you even survive in Seattle and New York with that kind of money?

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TomNook20 posted...

No it's not, it's pretty normal in any major market.

What is abnormal is getting that at 2.5 yoe. Guess it's facebook or something similar, or did you manage to pull senior?

Anyway, unless the opportunity is really that much better in terms of career growth, I'd recommend the nyc job. I moved to Seattle without knowing anyone here, and if you're in a good place socially, I'd say that's worth more than the TC difference.

not facebook but a company of similar prestige.

Christian RULES posted...

is 240K and 170K considered average salaries? Can you even survive in Seattle and New York with that kind of money?

i think they're pretty high for your average person. you can definitely survive on that money, splurge a little, and save a good amount.

JosephRogan posted...

Seattle. Even if the NYC job offered me 3x what that Seattle job was paying, I would stay the fuck out of NYC.

But then you end up in Seattle

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Tropicalwood posted...

But then you end up in Seattle

I'd unironically rather live in Seattle over NYC.
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I'd take Seattle. Expedia? Microsoft? Cause I highly doubt Amazon would go that high. Maybe Twitter.

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Those are both stupid amounts of money. The difference in income will be negligible to your life style. Reassess your pros and cons without looking at the pay.

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Evil_Evil_Evil_ posted...

they won't match because i didn't do that well on the interview

How'd you get the job then?

Both options sound great but Id personally stay close to family and friends

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VideoboysaysCube posted...

Those are both stupid amounts of money. The difference in income will be negligible to your life style. Reassess your pros and cons without looking at the pay.

Free meals vs. rent is about a 1k net negative if you take it. 55k a year is not negligible at all.

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If I was in your position I would stay put. I hate moving, and losing my gf when she moved for college was painful. If you're going to be making $170k and won't need to pay rent, sacrificing $70k for convenience and proximity to loved ones is pretty reasonable.

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TomNook20 posted...

No it's not, it's pretty normal in any major market.

What is abnormal is getting that at 2.5 yoe. Guess it's facebook or something similar, or did you manage to pull senior?

Anyway, unless the opportunity is really that much better in terms of career growth, I'd recommend the nyc job. I moved to Seattle without knowing anyone here, and if you're in a good place socially, I'd say that's worth more than the TC difference.

if this is normal, how I get this?

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Id stay in NYC because its the best city in the county and everyone you know is there. But if making a lot of money is important to you then you should just move

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TomNook20 posted...

No it's not, it's pretty normal in any major market.

What is abnormal is getting that at 2.5 yoe. Guess it's facebook or something similar, or did you manage to pull senior?

Depends on your skillset. If you can write Ada and are going to work for NASA 240k sounds reasonable.

The average C++ dev will never make that much money

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Evil_Evil_Evil_ posted...

+ don't need to pay rent

This means shit apartment

Tyranthraxus posted...

Depends on your skillset. If you can write Ada and are going to work for NASA 240k sounds reasonable.

The average C++ dev will never make that much money

Nope. If you want to make money in tech, the government probably won't give you what you want, but most tech companies you've heard of will.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Btbvv9kfLqo Even if you don't make that much after a couple of years like tc, if you reach senior sde it's a very normal salary in the bay, nyc, or seattle.


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Seattle is weirdly laid out and has bad everyday food. Even McDonalds and other places tasted weird to me.

NYC is for me

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1 and it isn't even comparable

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ToadallyAwesome posted...

Seattle is weirdly laid out and has bad everyday food. Even McDonalds and other places tasted weird to me.

NYC is for me

This guy could eat lobster tail and steak for dinner downtown in Seattle each day and get an Uber for every trip and he'd come out ahead.

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Resaix posted...

How'd you get the job then?

did well enough to get the job but not the level i wanted. i was downleveled from the role i interviewed for.

treewojima posted...

$240k as a developer is on the high end outside of management or extremely niche work. Take the Seattle job and enjoy the benefits, then use that experience and high pay to negotiate in your next job.

What exactly do you develop? Must be some kind of specialized business software or legacy maintenance stuff.

missed your question earlier. i'm a web developer and my area of expertise is frontend.

AntiNoob posted...

This means shit apartment

i'm living with family atm.

I'm considering going through a web developer bootcamp. Think it'd be worth it to increase salary?

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