Poll of the Day > Trump angers Beijing with 'Chinese virus' tweet, says virus originated from U.S.

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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-51928011

China has reacted angrily after US President Donald Trump referred to the coronavirus as Chinese.

The first cases of Covid-19 were recorded in the Chinese city of Wuhan in late 2019.

However, last week a Chinese foreign ministry spokesman shared a conspiracy theory, alleging the US Army had brought it to the region.
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Chinese officials have been slowly pushing this bull over the last month

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This Bei Jing guy needs to relax

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Wuhan is globally accepted as Ground Zero, if the Chinese government really wants to openly fight that notion, the political aftermath of the situation might be even scarier than the current situation...

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What a twist!
I still believe the Chinese bioweapon theory that I read in National Enquirer.

Chinese virus has been in China since ancient times.

ForteEXE3850 posted...

However, last week a Chinese foreign ministry spokesman shared a conspiracy theory, alleging the US Army had brought it to the region.

https://i.imgur.com/gT83EWF.gif

ForteEXE3850 posted...

Do you think it's wrong to refer to the coronavirus as originating from China?

It's factually correct, although confusing since it could refer to any number of viruses originating from there.

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It originated from China so I fail to see the problem.

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PyroBlade1985 posted...

Careful now TC. This topic might get modded too.

no reason it should

unlike some others

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I saw a snapchat angered over this, it always seems to be words that people are upset at trump for, never actions.

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Are we just going to ignore that people in the media/entertainment are trying to say its a racist dog whistle to point out that it came from Wuhan? This of course comes after themselves having called it Wuhan Coronavirus for the first month and a half that it broke out.

PyroBlade1985 posted...

I said nothing wrong.

okay buddy

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Neat. Mead has gone back to blocking me. Thank God.

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It's not wrong to say it originated from China but I don't think any other virus has been labelled by the country of origin, so to do so with this one is just provocative.

sodium-chloride posted...

It's not wrong to say it originated from China but I don't think any other virus has been labelled by the country of origin, so to do so with this one is just provocative.

Montezumas revenge

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sodium-chloride posted...

It's not wrong to say it originated from China but I don't think any other virus has been labelled by the country of origin, so to do so with this one is just provocative.

Many diseases are named after the region they were first found.

German Measles, Ebola, Spanish Flu, Valley Fever, West Nile Virus, Zika Virus and Lyme Disease are just a few that I can think of.

And while most of those aren't named after a country, they are all named after the region they were originally found. The more common Wuhan Virus, instead of Chinese Virus, should be perfectly acceptable.
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He's not wrong, but there's really no reason to call it a Chinese virus, especially where Europe is currently more threatening. That just distracts from the actual epidemiological reality of the situation and inflames racial tensions.

China trying to say the virus is American in origin is obvious nonsense.

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It originated from there, so no.

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I think the reaction from China is hilarious if not expected from those hypocrites.

It's like that time that they accused Canada of being horrible in term of human rights. China... of all countries.

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it came from china but I think focusing too much on that and calling it names like chinese virus or Wuhan Flu or Kung Flu causes problems with racism. when trump says those things, his fans hear "it's the chinese people's fault! they ruined our country with their disease! it's ok to hate them"

Trump needs to stop using those terms

He wouldn't be trump without finger pointing. That's his fan base: angry people looking to blame others for a problem.
I mean, we all point fingers but that's his platform. That's why he can stir up people so well.

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Zikten posted...

it came from china but I think focusing too much on that and calling it names like chinese virus or Wuhan Flu or Kung Flu causes problems with racism. when trump says those things, his fans hear "it's the chinese people's fault! they ruined our country with their disease! it's ok to hate them"

Trump needs to stop using those terms

Basically this. Calling it the Wuhan Virus or some other dumb term is needlessly inflammatory and also misleading.

At this point, it really doesn't matter where the virus started, because it's everywhere now.

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darkknight109 posted...

Basically this. Calling it the Wuhan Virus or some other dumb term is needlessly inflammatory and also misleading.

Calling it the China or Chinese virus is pushing it and is indeed a little on the bigot side as far as I am concerned. Calling it the Wuhan virus is perfectly fine as far as nomenclature is concerned. Stop virtue signaling.

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darkknight109 posted...

Basically this. Calling it the Wuhan Virus or some other dumb term is needlessly inflammatory and also misleading.

At this point, it really doesn't matter where the virus started, because it's everywhere now.

It does. Because a huge reason why it got so bad was because of the CCP and it's terrible policies and methods. And now it's trying to push a lie that the U.S. started the virus. Do not let them get away with the rebranding of history.

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The_tall_midget posted...

Calling it the Wuhan virus is perfectly fine as far as nomenclature is concerned.

It would be, except for the fact that it already has a name that everyone understands. There's zero reason whatsoever to not call it COVID-19 (or just "COVID"), hence his use of the word "needlessly."

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adjl posted...

It would be, except for the fact that it already has a name that everyone understands. There's zero reason whatsoever to not call it COVID-19 (or just "COVID"), hence his use of the word "needlessly."

It was actually being called The Wuhan Corona Virus before anyone was calling it COVID-19.
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ForteEXE3850 posted...

However, last week a Chinese foreign ministry spokesman shared a conspiracy theory, alleging the US Army had brought it to the region.

Wasn't the original conspiracy something to do with China being the ones that cultivated it to use against the HK protesters?

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Virus originates in China. China tries to keep the infection under wraps. Eventually cannot keep the infection hidden. Infection spreads all over the world. People blame China. China gets butt blasted. China tells its citizens to say the virus is from America for citizenship credits. Mass Chinese promote this idea.

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The_tall_midget posted...

Calling it the China or Chinese virus is pushing it and is indeed a little on the bigot side as far as I am concerned. Calling it the Wuhan virus is perfectly fine as far as nomenclature is concerned.

Why the fuck is "Chinese virus" bigoted, according to you, but "Wuhan virus" isn't?

It's called COVID-19. This is not hard to figure out.

Unbridled9 posted...

It does. Because a huge reason why it got so bad was because of the CCP and it's terrible policies and methods. And now it's trying to push a lie that the U.S. started the virus. Do not let them get away with the rebranding of history.

If that's your logic, then China could feasibly say they're just pushing back against Trump rebranding history by him claiming that he knew it was a pandemic all along and was totally on top of things.

Yes, the Chinese government fucked up their initial response. So did the US. So did a lot of places.

That is entirely immaterial anymore. Yell and finger point all you like about whose fault it is that the virus got this bad, but ultimately none of that is particularly important right now. The main thing people *should* be focused on is how to stop the spread.

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darkknight109 posted...

Yes, the Chinese government fucked up their initial response. So did the US. So did a lot of places.

Except CCP fuck up led to the rest of the world getting it. It didn't magically leave China and hit up Italy and France. Their citizens who were knowingly sick travelled and laughed about it.

if there is a "spanish flu" why can't there be a "wu han virus"?
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darkknight109 posted...

Why the fuck is "Chinese virus" bigoted, according to you, but "Wuhan virus" isn't?

I'll explain slowly.

In this case, the term "Chinese" is used specifically as an ambiguous term which is more used in order to point the finger at the Chinese/China in general, while Wuhan is a more precise term that refers to the virus by it's point of origin rather than it's more scientific name. I mean, even I, someone that's not exactly known for liking leftist virtue signalers, can see that refering to it as "Chinese virus" is a little pushing it, you'd think even you could comprehend. And get this, because this is going to sound crazy to you, but many different terms can be correctly used to refer to a disease. Crazy, huh?

It's why people might know exactly what you're talking about when you say "Tchernobyl" and might not if you said "That Russian nuclear explosion." Easy enough to comprehend? Do you not see how one term is perfectly usable while the other might be a little more annoying? It's why people used the term Spanish flu despite it being the influenza.

Also, look at the users making a being deal out of it. I am sure you will find a very logical, expected common link.

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Krazy_Kirby posted...

if there is a "spanish flu" why can't there be a "wu han virus"?

TLDR: Because Drumpf.

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SunWuKung420 posted...

Neat. Mead has gone back to blocking me. Thank God.

He was probably warned for saying something racist which is why we were able to see his posts for a while.

Bugmeat posted...

It was actually being called The Wuhan Corona Virus before anyone was calling it COVID-19.

Which is sensible because it's a lot easier to remember.


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Zeus posted...

Which is sensible because it's a lot easier to remember.

Given, WHO intentionally had it renamed to something ambiguous for the purpose of trying to disassociate the virus from China.

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TigerTycoon posted...

Given, WHO intentionally had it renamed to something ambiguous for the purpose of trying to disassociate the virus from China.

It just received a more scientific name. Disassociating it from China is a ship that has long since sailed.

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Zeus posted...

Which is sensible because it's a lot easier to remember.

What

TigerTycoon posted...

Given, WHO intentionally had it renamed to something ambiguous for the purpose of trying to disassociate the virus from China.

Fucking what

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Blighboy posted...

What

Fucking what

The Canadian education system, folks!


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Only Zitskrieg would think being unable to remember the word Covid makes him more educated

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PyroBlade1985 posted...

You know Mead, instead of being holier than thou about it, and telling me WHY you think I'm wrong, I might actually apologize.

okay buddy

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I dont think its racist to point out its a chinese virus but I dont want to stick around to debate with anyone because I dont actually care that enough.

*Jumping ship*
(theres no way a topic got 36 new posts from people not arguing)

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Bugmeat posted...

It was actually being called The Wuhan Corona Virus before anyone was calling it COVID-19.

In my experience, people colloquially called it "the coronavirus" before WHO settled on COVID-19. Official communications specified Wuhan or just called it "novel coronavirus," but specifying Wuhan in colloquial speech is still relatively new.

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Lil69Leo posted...

Except CCP fuck up led to the rest of the world getting it. It didn't magically leave China and hit up Italy and France. Their citizens who were knowingly sick travelled and laughed about it.

Hardly. There were a fair number of French and Italian people working in Hubei province, and they were evacuated home before it was understood that the virus had such a lengthy asymptomatic incubation period. Have some sense.

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adjl posted...

In my experience, people colloquially called it "the coronavirus" before WHO settled on COVID-19. Official communications specified Wuhan or just called it "novel coronavirus," but specifying Wuhan in colloquial speech is still relatively new.

now I see a lot of people calling it SARS-2

Can we just name it Leonard or something

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I heard wuhan flu first.
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