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GanonsSpirit
03/02/20 7:06:39 PM
#51:


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Calling it now, Klobuchar is going to drop before Super Tuesday.

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03/02/20 7:21:18 PM
#52:


SirPikachu posted...
Thank God Bernie is losing again. I hate that lying pussy bastard and everyone who is still dumb enough to support him

Biden is the only one that isn't a shit show. Still hope Trump wins again cuz that shit would be hilarious
Bernie has been saying the same shit for like 30 years or so

Also none of the other candidates have a tiny sliver of a chance against Trump, if there's a contested convention and they give it to someone else (and that's what it's going to take to stop Bernie), there will be riots and a overwhelming loss, on top of huge damage to the Democratic party's popularity. This is what happened in 1968 when a populist anti-Vietnam war candidate ran and the Democrats used superdelegates to steal it away. I get people don't like Bernie, but the people denying the reality of the situation are just showing they don't know what they're talking about.

This is why Warren is even still in the race btw, she's hoping for a contested convention.

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Revelation34
03/02/20 7:59:22 PM
#53:


SirPikachu posted...
Thank God Bernie is losing again. I hate that lying pussy bastard and everyone who is still dumb enough to support him

Biden is the only one that isn't a shit show. Still hope Trump wins again cuz that shit would be hilarious


Trump is guaranteed the win if Biden is the one nominated.
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Gaawa_chan
03/02/20 8:10:35 PM
#54:


Ah yes, Biden. So electable.
https://twitter.com/SteveGuest/status/1234579299652554753

Also, thanks Klob:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ESIdAkdX0AADgx8?format=jpg&name=large
Really sticking up for the most vulnerable among us. :-/

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Zeus
03/02/20 8:12:57 PM
#55:


Judgmenl posted...
If Biden gets nominated, half of the Democrat voting block will stay home. It will be the lowest turnout for an election in the history of the country.

Bullshit.

Judgmenl posted...
2 elections now the younger democrats fail to schizm from a party that doesn't represent them.

Younger Democrats are already motivated by a dislike of Trump.

Yellow posted... Also none of the other candidates have a tiny sliver of a chance against Trump,

They have a better chance than Bernie.

Yellow posted...
if there's a contested convention and they give it to someone else (and that's what it's going to take to stop Bernie),

Except that's not what's needed to stop Bernie, since the dropouts benefit Biden who should pick up steam.

Yellow posted...
I get people don't like Bernie, but the people denying the reality of the situation are just showing they don't know what they're talking about.

This is the same nonsense people were spouting last time about Bernie before he ultimately lost.

Revelation34 posted...
Trump is guaranteed the win if Biden is the one nominated.

And he'll win no problem against Bernie.

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Blighboy
03/02/20 8:15:34 PM
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Why did Zeus need to separately quote like twenty sentences just to reply "no" to all of them.

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Mead
03/02/20 8:24:15 PM
#57:


Gaawa_chan posted...
Ah yes, Biden. So electable.
https://twitter.com/SteveGuest/status/1234579299652554753

wow so you dont even respect the thing?

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Judgmenl
03/02/20 8:41:15 PM
#58:


Zeus posted...
Younger Democrats are already motivated by a dislike of Trump.
No they aren't.
Stop listening to the bullshit you hear on Youtube.

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Zeus
03/02/20 9:21:36 PM
#59:


Blighboy posted...
Why did Zeus need to separately quote like twenty sentences just to reply "no" to all of them.

Because specifics.

Judgmenl posted...
No they aren't.
Stop listening to the bullshit you hear on Youtube.

So stop listening to young people when it comes to young people and instead listen to pundits who might never have been young tell me what young people think? Got it.

Granted, the only problem with your idea is that even the pundits seem to acknowledge that Trump hate will be driving young people to the polls, so I have to ignore just about everybody. Conversely, you have black Democrats who are known for either voting Dem or more often not voting at all who Sanders has very visibly failed to reach.


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Blighboy
03/02/20 9:32:49 PM
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Zeus posted...
Because specifics.
To quote a very specific Zeus post, bullshit

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Zeus
03/02/20 9:43:16 PM
#61:


Blighboy posted...
To quote a very specific Zeus post, bullshit

Fake news, folks. Fake news.

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Gaawa_chan
03/02/20 9:43:21 PM
#62:


Zeus posted...
Bullshit.
Younger Democrats are already motivated by a dislike of Trump.

You severely underestimate how pissed off people are this time around; 2016 was nothing, NOTHING to this. There are people on social media begging Warren and Biden to help them because they are rationing their insulin and believe they are going to die within the next year or so. If the DNC wants Biden, they have to give us Medicare For All in exchange, or we won't merely "not" vote for Biden. He will lose in a landslide, because there is no way in hell he can win without us this time around, not with primary projections like this:
https://twitter.com/badspaceguy/status/1234218605962596352?fbclid=IwAR0ow0qMOq3vAdQ4rDhIR4w5ff4rttlP3oWVLy7cFVGYu05FQ11KnsV0ZaA

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Zeus
03/02/20 10:30:46 PM
#63:


Gaawa_chan posted...
You severely underestimate how pissed off people are this time around; 2016 was nothing, NOTHING to this. There are people on social media begging Warren and Biden to help them because they are rationing their insulin and believe they are going to die within the next year or so. If the DNC wants Biden, they have to give us Medicare For All in exchange, or we won't merely "not" vote for Biden. He will lose in a landslide, because there is no way in hell he can win without us this time around, not with primary projections like this:
https://twitter.com/badspaceguy/status/1234218605962596352?fbclid=IwAR0ow0qMOq3vAdQ4rDhIR4w5ff4rttlP3oWVLy7cFVGYu05FQ11KnsV0ZaA

I'm amused that you actually believe that. And if Medicare-for-All was truly wanted as badly as you seem to think, it would have already happened decades ago.

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Yellow
03/02/20 10:36:58 PM
#64:


It could go without the pharmaceutical and insurance companies lobbying billions of dollars. That might have something to do with it. Just free speech, right?

https://infogram.com/1pzgk53eejvglju29q79l5l2nns1r6k5522

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Mead
03/02/20 11:05:50 PM
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https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/03/02/which-side-are-you-ask-progressives-health-insurance-stocks-spike-after-centrists

Health Insurance Stocks Spike After Centrists Coalesce Around Biden

hmm I wonder what motivates these centrist candidates

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Judgmenl
03/03/20 8:27:12 AM
#66:


Today's the day our hopes and dreams are crushed.
Hopefully Lizzie wins Massachusetts. Polling is likely. She is a highly regarded Senator here.

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Blighboy
03/03/20 8:55:09 AM
#67:


Warren wants to be the kingmaker

Will she join progressive or moderate voltron nobody knows

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I_Abibde
03/03/20 8:56:33 AM
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Watching today very carefully to see how the maneuvering of the drop-out candidates has changed the dynamics.

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Jen0125
03/03/20 8:57:02 AM
#69:


Mead posted...
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/03/02/which-side-are-you-ask-progressives-health-insurance-stocks-spike-after-centrists

Health Insurance Stocks Spike After Centrists Coalesce Around Biden

hmm I wonder what motivates these centrist candidates

Weird how that happened

Is there a different source though? That site has a distinct left bias according to mediabiasfactcheck.com

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-02/managed-care-stocks-jump-as-klobuchar-bows-out-boosting-biden?sref=vuYGislZ

From the article but I don't like Bloomberg so meh

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Judgmenl
03/03/20 1:16:55 PM
#70:


Local voting location had the nicest old ladies electioneering for Warren outside. Very sweet. Saw nobody else electioneering.

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Mead
03/03/20 1:42:25 PM
#71:


Judgmenl posted...
Local voting location had the nicest old ladies electioneering for Warren outside. Very sweet. Saw nobody else electioneering.

good job using the word electioneering two times in one post

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Judgmenl
03/03/20 2:42:51 PM
#72:


Reading the /r/poltiics thread is such a joy. Every 1-2 minutes seeing a bot insult Warren voters expecting them to change their minds.

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Yellow
03/03/20 3:23:28 PM
#73:


She doesn't really have a chance.

And she does take super pac money, which is an immediate disqualification for me.

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streamofthesky
03/03/20 5:45:24 PM
#74:


Yellow posted...
She doesn't really have a chance.

And she does take super pac money, which is an immediate disqualification for me.
Eh...I don't know. It's difficult. Money is so infused in our system and makes so much difference, that I'm not sure someone can win w/o tons of it being poured in. It'd be nice, but presidential elections aren't the time to conduct social experiments to see if you can win w/o a lot of money.
If she uses super PAC money to win, but then uses her obtained power to try and dismantle Citizens United, then that'd be morally acceptable to me.

Or, as Code Geass covered it:
https://youtu.be/hmYz5aentfg?t=125
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Zeus
03/03/20 5:58:22 PM
#75:


Yellow posted...
And she does take super pac money, which is an immediate disqualification for me.

https://i.imgur.com/kQ4OLts.gif

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Yellow
03/03/20 6:14:19 PM
#76:


You've admitted you don't believe in the concept of corruption before. If a corporation gives money to a politician, they're going to favor them more than the lowly peasants, which is a problem.

streamofthesky posted...
Eh...I don't know. It's difficult. Money is so infused in our system and makes so much difference, that I'm not sure someone can win w/o tons of it being poured in. It'd be nice, but presidential elections aren't the time to conduct social experiments to see if you can win w/o a lot of money.
If she uses super PAC money to win, but then uses her obtained power to try and dismantle Citizens United, then that'd be morally acceptable to me.

Or, as Code Geass covered it:
https://youtu.be/hmYz5aentfg?t=125
I'm just going with the guy that doesn't take PAC money, and is very close to winning. As a matter of fact I'm going to go with that guy 200% of the time.

Warren literally brings nothing to the table. She's not remotely close in the polls, and she doesn't have a strong stance against corruption and money's influence in politics. She played the dirty game where she came out without any hands tied behind her back and lost. The DNC probably won't even like her anyway because she's just a half decent politician who stood up to power several times.

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Zeus
03/03/20 6:18:37 PM
#77:


Yellow posted...
You've admitted you don't believe in the concept of corruption before. If a corporation gives money to a politician, they're going to favor them more than the lowly peasants, which is a problem.

You've admitted that you don't understand what corruption is by considering a legal campaign donation as an example of corruption. And literally everybody who donates to politicians do so because they want something. And politicians make promises in the expectation of receiving political or financial support. What you're thinking about isn't corruption, it's politics in something other than a dictatorship. Perhaps you'd prefer the clean, influence-free nature of a dictatorship.

Yellow posted... she doesn't have a strong stance against corruption and money's influence in politics.

She literally bitches about that non-stop.

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Yellow
03/03/20 6:28:53 PM
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I know the legal definition of corruption... By that standard the people with the most money have vastly more "free will" than poor people in a Democracy. Maybe you would like this kind of government
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oligarchy

The United States is even listed on the page, right next to Russia, Ukraine, and Zimbabwe. Nice.

Zeus posted...
She literally bitches about that non-stop.
Doesn't matter if she takes super PAC money anyway, does it? She still has it listed right on her website.

Reforming the money game in Washington isnt enough. We also need to comprehensively clean up our campaign finance system. Thats why Ive also called for a constitutional amendment to overturn Citizens United. Its why we need to get rid of the Super PACs and secret spending by billionaires and giant corporations that try to buy our democracy. Its why we need to break the grip that big donors have by creating a system of exclusive public funding of our elections. But even if we solve our campaign finance problems, comprehensive anti-corruption reforms targeted at Washington itself are necessary to finally end the stranglehold that the wealthy and the well-connected have over our governments decision-making processes.

That just makes her a liar.

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YoukaiSlayer
03/03/20 7:01:38 PM
#79:


Zeus posted...
And politicians make promises in the expectation of receiving political or financial support.
How is that something anyone is ok with? Why are you ok with people buying political influence in a democracy just because it isn't technically illegal?

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Blighboy
03/03/20 7:10:11 PM
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It's not corruption it's neo corruption

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Zeus
03/03/20 7:32:45 PM
#82:


Yellow posted...
I know the legal definition of corruption... By that standard the people with the most money have vastly more "free will" than poor people in a Democracy. Maybe you would like this kind of government
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oligarchy

The United States is even listed on the page, right next to Russia, Ukraine, and Zimbabwe. Nice.

Is it really that nice that Wikipedia is an unreliable source yet you choose to cite it anyway?

Yellow posted...
That just makes her a liar.

You don't seem to have much of a grasp when it comes to words. Not once does she claim that she doesn't take PAC money. At worst, you could call her a hypocrite. At best, she's a pragmatist.

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Zeus
03/03/20 7:35:22 PM
#83:


YoukaiSlayer posted...
How is that something anyone is ok with? Why are you ok with people buying political influence in a democracy just because it isn't technically illegal?

If you contribute $17 to Bernie Sanders's campaign, you've literally just bought political influence. It's not as dramatic as you pretend.

Blighboy posted...
It's not corruption it's neo corruption

https://i.imgur.com/HX9Jz96.jpg

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Jen0125
03/03/20 7:48:25 PM
#84:


Why is American Samoa voting for Bloomberg and Gabbard?? Lmaooo

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Mead
03/03/20 7:49:13 PM
#85:


Jen0125 posted...
Why is American Samoa voting for Bloomberg and Gabbard?? Lmaooo

bloomberg probably built them a KFC or something

I get it

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Judgmenl
03/03/20 9:22:13 PM
#86:


Just got back home.
Bernie's done right?
This is 2016 all over again. I cannot believe that Biden is winning my state.

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Mead
03/03/20 9:32:50 PM
#87:


Judgmenl posted...
Just got back home.
Bernie's done right?
This is 2016 all over again. I cannot believe that Biden is winning my state.

not sure why you are always trying to jump to conclusions so early

patience dude

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DirtBasedSoap
03/03/20 9:35:52 PM
#88:


Bernie has a pretty good lead in Texas with 25% in so far. I think hes got California in the bag but what the fuck do I know?

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Jen0125
03/03/20 9:36:16 PM
#89:


Judgmenl posted...
Just got back home.
Bernie's done right?
This is 2016 all over again. I cannot believe that Biden is winning my state.

No? This isn't even half the states yet. I don't think anyone would be surprised a moderate like Biden won most southern states.

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Blighboy
03/03/20 9:52:57 PM
#90:


Remember a week ago Biden had literally underperformed in every state

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Mead
03/03/20 9:54:19 PM
#91:


Bernie wins Colorado but he could have won it by more. Very disappointing night for Bernie.

lol never change tv news

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Lokarin
03/03/20 10:13:25 PM
#92:


Which is better; 4 years of Trump or 8 years of Biden

...think about it

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Judgmenl
03/03/20 10:15:18 PM
#93:


Lokarin posted...
Which is better; 4 years of Trump or 8 years of Biden

...think about it
The choices don't actually matter. Nothing will get past the senate as long as Mitch is alive.

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Mead
03/03/20 10:18:13 PM
#94:


Lokarin posted...
Which is better; 4 years of Trump or 8 years of Biden

...think about it

8 years of Biden, easily

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streamofthesky
03/03/20 10:18:29 PM
#95:


Judgmenl posted...
The choices don't actually matter. Nothing will get past the senate as long as Mitch is alive.
Isn't he up for re-election this year?

Are the Dems making a serious effort to unseat him? And if not, why not?

Also, Mitch killed the filibuster, so if Dems can get a Senate majority, Mitch can't do shit.
Unless Dems once again roll over for Republicans and agree to re-instate the filibuster (until Republicans are the majority again, of course). ...Fuck, Dems are totally going to roll over, aren't they?
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Judgmenl
03/03/20 10:33:38 PM
#96:


streamofthesky posted...
Are the Dems making a serious effort to unseat him? And if not, why not?
Nobody is going to seriously contest Mitch's seat. How is a Democrat going to win in Kentucky?

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Lokarin
03/03/20 10:34:26 PM
#97:


Judgmenl posted...
How is a Democrat going to win in Kentucky?

corporate felatio.

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03/03/20 10:41:08 PM
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SirPikachu
03/04/20 2:13:13 PM
#99:


Lokarin posted...
Which is better; 4 years of Trump or 8 years of Biden

...think about it
8 years of Trump, which is what we're getting

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DirtBasedSoap
03/04/20 2:52:46 PM
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lmao look up all the voter suppression incidents in Texas yesterday. Fucking disgusting. Fuck this shithole country.

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Yellow
03/04/20 4:04:02 PM
#101:


This seems bad, but Bernie and Biden are basically tied at this point in delegates.

Bernie now needs to ditch the nice guy act and throw some stones at that glass house over there. Biden might have the media and the entire DNC on his side, but he still has dementia and a lifetime of sleazy baggage, including coming out against gay marriage, coming out against desegregation, voting for every war, coming out in favor of lobbyists, being creepy with women and children. He needs to stress that Biden does not support medicare for all, releasing non-violent drug offenders, or any of the policies that are exclusive to him. No more "my friend Biden" please. Before it was a crushing victory, now that the klobu-butti-bloomberg-biden corportist fusion has happened it's a real fight.

If Bernie wins there will be a contested convention where the superdelegates will try to give it to Biden, and that's when we the protests come in. A Bernie majority win is out of the picture.

Imagine if Bernie came out with an ad, "Do you have a family member in Prison for weed? Do you have a family member or friend in debt for medical problems? This man wants them to stay that way. This man is in favor of the Iraq Middle East war, wasting your tax dollars and murdering civilians. Here's the civilian death count. This man is not a real Democrat." People don't really listen to the sexual allegations, just jump straight to the point where he's fine with your pain and suffering.

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