Poll of the Day > The Star Trek Youtube Outrage Culture shit is starting to piss me off.

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Judgmenl 02/13/20 10:29:19 AM #1:	I thought that the last episode of Picard (aired today) was fucking awesome, and that they're doing a great job at bridging the time between Nemesis and Star Trek Online, but people seem to be overly critical of the series for reasons I just simply don't understand. These people seemingly exist just to suck the energy from actual fans of the series, or have some backwards thought that Star Trek has to be their Star Trek (really apparent with TNG fans). I just want to watch good science fiction television set in a universe I've known for the past 20 years of my life. Everyone seems overly ranting about how the show is too much of a melodrama or some bullshit, and couldn't care less about the lore of the universe, or how it links to other places in canon. --- You're a regular Jack Kerouac I'm a Senior Software Engineer. No I don't write TPS reports, this isn't Office Space. <cite>Judgmenl posted [p:934319355] in The Star T... [t:78402605]...</cite> <quote>I thought that the last episode of Picard (aired today) was fucking awesome, and that they're doing a great job at bridging the time between Nemesis and Star Trek Online, but people seem to be overly critical of the series for reasons I just simply don't understand. These people seemingly exist just to suck the energy from actual fans of the series, or have some backwards thought that Star Trek has to be their Star Trek (really apparent with TNG fans). I just want to watch good science fiction television set in a universe I've known for the past 20 years of my life. Everyone seems overly ranting about how the show is too much of a melodrama or some bullshit, and couldn't care less about the lore of the universe, or how it links to other places in canon. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Far-Queue 02/13/20 10:36:47 AM #2:	You shouldn't allow other people's opinions to affect you. There's always going to be people who think the things you like are awful. --- https://imgur.com/ZwO4qO2 Bluer than velvet was the night... Softer than satin was the light... From the stars... <cite>Far-Queue posted [p:934319631] in The Star T... [t:78402605]...</cite> <quote>You shouldn't allow other people's opinions to affect you. There's always going to be people who think the things you like are awful. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 02/13/20 10:49:36 AM #3:	You like the show, so like it. You dont have to react to every stupid person on the internet. --- Lemonheads <cite>Mead posted [p:934320098] in The Star T... [t:78402605]...</cite> <quote>You like the show, so like it. You dont have to react to every stupid person on the internet. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Veedrock- 02/13/20 10:50:44 AM #4:	Take control of your life. --- My friends call me Vee. I'm not your friend, buddy. <cite>Veedrock- posted [p:934320129] in The Star T... [t:78402605]...</cite> <quote>Take control of your life. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeetCheet 02/13/20 11:06:03 AM #5:	I'm currently re-watching the Star Trek movies. The first movie was a slog, straight up boring. Wrath of Khan was great. Next up is Search for Spock. Can't wait to see First Contact again, my favourite Star Trek film. --- https://imgur.com/eQrRxik https://imgur.com/NC8itow <cite>LeetCheet posted [p:934320716] in The Star T... [t:78402605]...</cite> <quote>I'm currently re-watching the Star Trek movies. The first movie was a slog, straight up boring. Wrath of Khan was great. Next up is Search for Spock. Can't wait to see First Contact again, my favourite Star Trek film.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PKMNsony 02/13/20 2:13:23 PM #6:	I can't judge because I haven't watched it, but I heard there wasn't even a single lightsaber fight in it. <cite>PKMNsony posted [p:934328906] in The Star T... [t:78402605]...</cite> <quote>I can't judge because I haven't watched it, but I heard there wasn't even a single lightsaber fight in it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ParanoidObsessive 02/13/20 3:04:39 PM #7:	Judgmenl posted... or have some backwards thought that Star Trek has to be their Star Trek (really apparent with TNG fans) If I was a fan of something for literally decades, and then someone came along and remade that franchise into something radically different from what it always was, and arguably was supposed to be, I'd probably be kind of pissed too. Especially if the changes basically stripped away nearly every single thing I loved about the franchise in the first place, and replaced them with things I either don't give a shit about, or actively hate. Oh, wait. That's pretty much the reason I stopped watching Doctor Who. Judgmenl posted... I just want to watch good science fiction television set in a universe I've known for the past 20 years of my life. The argument from most people would be that it isn't really the same universe you've known, because they've changed most of the fundamental principles of the setting to slam the square peg of the plot into a very round hole. And the argument from some other people would be that you're not watching good science fiction at all. Judgmenl posted... and couldn't care less about the lore of the universe, or how it links to other places in canon. Most of the complaints I've heard are about the ways it conflicts with the rest of the canon, or has been connected to past stuff, but in ways that imply the people doing the connecting don't really seem to understand most of the past stuff. Sort of the same problem the Star Wars franchise has had lately. Though to be fair, I don't really have a dog in this fight - I haven't watched Picard (and likely never will, fuck CBS All Access), but I was never really much of a Star Trek fan in the first place, so I don't really care about canon or references to past stuff or have a massive nostalgia boner for them to wank. So I don't have much of an opinion on the new show. But I do understand where the people who hate it are coming from. Just like I can understand where the people who enjoy it are coming from. And both sides are more than welcome to do so. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted [p:934331128] in The Star T... [t:78402605]...</cite> <quote><cite>Judgmenl posted...</cite> <quote> or have some backwards thought that Star Trek has to be their Star Trek (really apparent with TNG fans)</quote> If I was a fan of something for literally decades, and then someone came along and remade that franchise into something radically different from what it always was, and arguably was supposed to be, I'd probably be kind of pissed too. Especially if the changes basically stripped away nearly every single thing I loved about the franchise in the first place, and replaced them with things I either don't give a shit about, or actively hate. Oh, wait. That's pretty much the reason I stopped watching Doctor Who. <cite>Judgmenl posted...</cite> <quote>I just want to watch good science fiction television set in a universe I've known for the past 20 years of my life.</quote> The argument from most people would be that it isn't really the same universe you've known, because they've changed most of the fundamental principles of the setting to slam the square peg of the plot into a very round hole. And the argument from some other people would be that you're not watching good science fiction at all. <cite>Judgmenl posted...</cite> <quote>and couldn't care less about the lore of the universe, or how it links to other places in canon.</quote> Most of the complaints I've heard are about the ways it conflicts with the rest of the canon, or has been connected to past stuff, but in ways that imply the people doing the connecting don't really seem to understand most of the past stuff. Sort of the same problem the Star Wars franchise has had lately. Though to be fair, I don't really have a dog in this fight - I haven't watched Picard (and likely never will, fuck CBS All Access), but I was never really much of a Star Trek fan in the first place, so I don't really care about canon or references to past stuff or have a massive nostalgia boner for them to wank. So I don't have much of an opinion on the new show. But I do understand where the people who hate it are coming from. Just like I can understand where the people who enjoy it are coming from. And both sides are more than welcome to do so.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DeltaBladeX 02/13/20 3:47:33 PM #8:	I was looking forward to Picard, my parents love Star Trek stuff. The company making it remembers their service isn't worldwide and NZ got all the Star Trek stuff on Netflix. Until Picard. In New Zealand, that is only available on Amazon Prime Video, something my parents can't watch on their TV even if we bothered to get it. --- I'm not lazy, I just don't care http://backloggery.com/DeltaBladeXNZ - https://steamcommunity.com/id/DeltaBladeX <cite>DeltaBladeX posted [p:934333139] in The Star T... [t:78402605]...</cite> <quote>I was looking forward to Picard, my parents love Star Trek stuff. The company making it remembers their service isn't worldwide and NZ got all the Star Trek stuff on Netflix. Until Picard. In New Zealand, that is only available on Amazon Prime Video, something my parents can't watch on their TV even if we bothered to get it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TigerTycoon 02/13/20 4:02:56 PM #10:	Why are you going online to look for approval for liking something you already know you like? That said, the complaints about the new Star Trek shows are fairly straightforward, they're written by people who don't know much about and really don't care about old Star Trek. If you like it that's fine, why do you want people who don't like it to like it? That said, I love the youtube videos complaining about the new Star Trek shows, because they're hilarious. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cn4fW0EInqw --- YOU COULDN'T AFFORD IT! <cite>TigerTycoon posted [p:934333911] in The Star T... [t:78402605]...</cite> <quote>Why are you going online to look for approval for liking something you already know you like? That said, the complaints about the new Star Trek shows are fairly straightforward, they're written by people who don't know much about and really don't care about old Star Trek. If you like it that's fine, why do you want people who don't like it to like it? That said, I love the youtube videos complaining about the new Star Trek shows, because they're hilarious. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cn4fW0EInqw</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Judgmenl 02/13/20 9:25:07 PM #11:	LeetCheet posted... Can't wait to see First Contact again, my favourite Star Trek film. The Undiscovered Country is the best Star Trek Film. PKMNsony posted... I can't judge because I haven't watched it, but I heard there wasn't even a single lightsaber fight in it. Yes but there's a ~~cool space fight~~ and ~~Jeri Ryan~~. ParanoidObsessive posted... The argument from most people would be that it isn't really the same universe you've known, because they've changed most of the fundamental principles of the setting to slam the square peg of the plot into a very round hole. Discovery? I Can buy that. Picard? I can't buy that. It's very obvious that Picard takes place in the same universe that TOS/TNG/VOY/DS9/ENT took place in. It was obvious in the first episode. Picard was turning into an angry old man filled with PTSD by the time that Nemesis rolled around. Not to mention that he canonically, he was more of a diplomat than anything (and why he's so pissed off at the Federation in Picard). ParanoidObsessive posted... And the argument from some other people would be that you're not watching good science fiction at all. There is no good science fiction anymore. The closest I can think of when it comes to recent science fiction is The Expanse, and that's based on a book so it has book-style narrative. The entirety of Season 4 was a bottle episode. Also 10 episode seasons are generally too short to do any long-term character development. The Lost in Space reboot is also passable. ParanoidObsessive posted... Most of the complaints I've heard are about the ways it conflicts with the rest of the canon, or has been connected to past stuff, but in ways that imply the people doing the connecting don't really seem to understand most of the past stuff. Like I said, Season 1 of Discovery? Absolutely horrible. Gets somewhat passable in Season 2, but it's clear they're trying to "update" some things like the design of the Enterprise. However there are a few good scenes in Season 2 of Discovery like this one ~~https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yzn_RzM2N-E~~ There are a lot of good scenes in Picard so far (the final scene of episode 4 makes me happy) but even the intro scene to episode 1 feels comfy (Can't spoil the first scene of a show...) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pN4Tx0EOz_w People are argunig that the story if Picard is pretty mediocre and that it's serialzed drama instead of episodic. Television has changed since the 80s and 90s, so that's to be expected. I'm not a fan of the scenes at the Reclamation center ~~Borg Cube~~ tho. --- You're a regular Jack Kerouac I'm a Senior Software Engineer. No I don't write TPS reports, this isn't Office Space. <cite>Judgmenl posted [p:934347354] in The Star T... [t:78402605]...</cite> <quote>LeetCheet posted... </cite> <quote>Can't wait to see First Contact again, my favourite Star Trek film.</quote>The Undiscovered Country is the best Star Trek Film. PKMNsony posted... </cite> <quote>I can't judge because I haven't watched it, but I heard there wasn't even a single lightsaber fight in it.</quote>Yes but there's a cool space fight and Jeri Ryan. ParanoidObsessive posted... </cite> <quote>The argument from most people would be that it isn't really the same universe you've known, because they've changed most of the fundamental principles of the setting to slam the square peg of the plot into a very round hole.</quote>Discovery? I Can buy that. Picard? I can't buy that. It's very obvious that Picard takes place in the same universe that TOS/TNG/VOY/DS9/ENT took place in. It was obvious in the first episode. Picard was turning into an angry old man filled with PTSD by the time that Nemesis rolled around. Not to mention that he canonically, he was more of a diplomat than anything (and why he's so pissed off at the Federation in Picard). ParanoidObsessive posted... </cite> <quote>And the argument from some other people would be that you're not watching good science fiction at all.</quote>There is no good science fiction anymore. The closest I can think of when it comes to recent science fiction is The Expanse, and that's based on a book so it has book-style narrative. The entirety of Season 4 was a bottle episode. Also 10 episode seasons are generally too short to do any long-term character development. The Lost in Space reboot is also passable. ParanoidObsessive posted... </cite> <quote>Most of the complaints I've heard are about the ways it conflicts with the rest of the canon, or has been connected to past stuff, but in ways that imply the people doing the connecting don't really seem to understand most of the past stuff.</quote>Like I said, Season 1 of Discovery? Absolutely horrible. Gets somewhat passable in Season 2, but it's clear they're trying to "update" some things like the design of the Enterprise. However there are a few good scenes in Season 2 of Discovery like this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yzn_RzM2N-E There are a lot of good scenes in Picard so far (the final scene of episode 4 makes me happy) but even the intro scene to episode 1 feels comfy (Can't spoil the first scene of a show...) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pN4Tx0EOz_w People are argunig that the story if Picard is pretty mediocre and that it's serialzed drama instead of episodic. Television has changed since the 80s and 90s, so that's to be expected. I'm not a fan of the scenes at the Reclamation center Borg Cube tho. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Judgmenl 02/13/20 9:25:09 PM #12:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] It's the best! TigerTycoon posted... That said, I love the youtube videos complaining about the new Star Trek shows, because they're hilarious. The "feign ignorance" thing that RLM does in their videos is really annoying. I know that other youtubers do it too. Like the thing that really pisses me off is when you don't remember character's names, or how to pronounce them. TigerTycoon posted... Why are you going online to look for approval for liking something you already know you like? There's like only 1 place I look for Star Trek ratings, and I've used them for over a decade - Ex Astris Scientia. --- You're a regular Jack Kerouac I'm a Senior Software Engineer. No I don't write TPS reports, this isn't Office Space. <cite>Judgmenl posted [p:934347358] in The Star T... [t:78402605]...</cite> <quote> <cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> It's the best! TigerTycoon posted... </cite> <quote>That said, I love the youtube videos complaining about the new Star Trek shows, because they're hilarious.</quote>The "feign ignorance" thing that RLM does in their videos is really annoying. I know that other youtubers do it too. Like the thing that really pisses me off is when you don't remember character's names, or how to pronounce them. TigerTycoon posted... </cite> <quote>Why are you going online to look for approval for liking something you already know you like?</quote>There's like only 1 place I look for Star Trek ratings, and I've used them for over a decade - Ex Astris Scientia. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 02/13/20 9:29:05 PM #13:	Judgmenl posted... There's like only 1 place I look for Star Trek ratings why is that a thing you need --- Lemonheads <cite>Mead posted [p:934347503] in The Star T... [t:78402605]...</cite> <quote>Judgmenl posted... </cite> <quote>There's like only 1 place I look for Star Trek ratings</quote> why is that a thing you need </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Judgmenl 02/13/20 9:32:10 PM #14:	Mead posted... why is that a thing you need Because I enjoy Bernd's dedication to Star Trek. --- You're a regular Jack Kerouac I'm a Senior Software Engineer. No I don't write TPS reports, this isn't Office Space. <cite>Judgmenl posted [p:934347636] in The Star T... [t:78402605]...</cite> <quote>Mead posted... </cite> <quote>why is that a thing you need</quote>Because I enjoy Bernd's dedication to Star Trek. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 02/13/20 9:34:08 PM #15:	Judgmenl posted... Because I enjoy Bernd's dedication to Star Trek. who is that some romulan --- Lemonheads <cite>Mead posted [p:934347691] in The Star T... [t:78402605]...</cite> <quote>Judgmenl posted... </cite> <quote>Because I enjoy Bernd's dedication to Star Trek.</quote> who is that some romulan </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Judgmenl 02/13/20 9:37:42 PM #16:	No, pretty sure he's German. --- You're a regular Jack Kerouac I'm a Senior Software Engineer. No I don't write TPS reports, this isn't Office Space. <cite>Judgmenl posted [p:934347820] in The Star T... [t:78402605]...</cite> <quote>No, pretty sure he's German. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smarkil 02/14/20 3:30:37 AM #17:	Ah yes, Nemesis and Star Trek Online. The height of the Star Trek storyline. --- I promise that if the game stinks I will make a topic about how I hate it and you can all laugh at me - Mead on Fallout 76 <cite>Smarkil posted [p:934358392] in The Star T... [t:78402605]...</cite> <quote>Ah yes, Nemesis and Star Trek Online. The height of the Star Trek storyline. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EricWithAKay 02/14/20 4:58:07 AM #18:	This is for Star Wars, but whatever https://i.imgur.com/WljXgHb.jpg <cite>EricWithAKay posted [p:934359593] in The Star T... [t:78402605]...</cite> <quote>This is for Star Wars, but whatever https://i.imgur.com/WljXgHb.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Miroku_of_Nite1 02/14/20 5:07:11 AM #19:	EricWithAKay posted... This is for Star Wars, but whatever https://i.imgur.com/WljXgHb.jpg God Penny Arcade has horrible art now. --- https://imgtc.ws/i/UMJAz4P.jpg <cite>Miroku_of_Nite1 posted [p:934359710] in The Star T... [t:78402605]...</cite> <quote>EricWithAKay posted... </cite> <quote>This is for Star Wars, but whatever https://i.imgur.com/WljXgHb.jpg</quote>God Penny Arcade has horrible art now. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Action53 02/14/20 9:29:49 AM #20:	I like Picard, I just wish it would "pick up the pace" Discovery is awful --- Serve the public trust. Protect the innocent. Uphold the law. <cite>Action53 posted [p:934364873] in The Star T... [t:78402605]...</cite> <quote>I like Picard, I just wish it would "pick up the pace" Discovery is awful </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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