Board 8 > Haste2 ranks all 180 VGMC Retirees.

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LeonhartFour
11/17/20 3:13:04 AM
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Haste_2
11/17/20 11:26:13 PM
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48) Romancing SaGa: Minstrel Song - Battle With Saruin
https://youtu.be/V5wJMKmtbkU
Composer: Kenji Ito
Score: 8.9/10 (Excellent)
VGMC History: VGMC 9 (Lost R6 to Seize the Truth)
Favorite Part: https://youtu.be/V5wJMKmtbkU?t=112

You might be surprised I would like this one so much, but let me explain. I havent played much of the SaGa series, but years ago one of my friends got SaGa Frontier on the PS1 back in '98. I would watch him play it, and I thought it was the coolest game ever! The spell animations are jaw-dropping, too. And, of course, the music would have to leave an impression on me, right? But yeah, I think its cool that a Kenji Ito battle theme got retired (not saying its the best one, though).

The opening introduces a ferocious syncopated pattern at 0:07 (a kind that sounds very much like Ito) from which much of the track relies on. You could almost say they're the backbone of this track. The ascending scales in the strings also boosts that energy around those patterns!! Love when the synth comes in at 0:30...powerful. The first part of the melody is nice enough.. but it gets a lot better in the second half at 1:27 with the strings along with the responses with that syncopated pattern, what a BANGER!! Normally I dont pay much attention to guitar harmonics, but the one at 1:40 is WAY TOO COOL! :) :) Then immediately after that is my FAVORITE part of the theme you got some cool chromatic melodic things combined with unexpected secondary dominants, a very Kenji Ito-like sound here!!! Then at Guitar solo only increases the excitement. The 2:08 is a switch to a relaxed triplet feel, but the way he groups the patterns sounds SO ridiculously awesome there!!! Then at the very end where you got that clash on the second note of the scale. (actually, the clash happens in a few other places, too) That synth solo at 2:25, too! Bluesy repetitions, cool licks and chromatic stuff (2:41 - 2:43) typical of pro jazzers, a nice sync with the rhythm in the middle, and then cram as many notes in as possible toward the end, too! (again, you got that nat-II against Phrygian at parts) Low jazz organ crazy bit just before the loop ends is fun. But yeah, this is what a battle theme is all about!!

I'm curious about the original. Hm, I had a hard time finding the music on its own, here's a video of the final battle in RS3.

Romancing SaGa 3 SPOILERS:
https://youtu.be/MMukiBJwXFw?t=383

Oh WOW, these improv solos were in the original?! Totally didn't expect that! Makes me appreciate the original more and this one less. >_> Granted, the solos were adjusted in Minstrel Song (some of which I mentioned in the write-up) that make it better.

47) Gran Turismo 2 - Moon over the Castle
https://youtu.be/kQMlzcbfz0I
Composer: Masahiro Andoh
Score: 8.9/10 (Excellent)
VGMC History: VGMC 4 (Lost R7 to Trombe!)
Favorite Part: https://youtu.be/kQMlzcbfz0I?t=118

I dont know anybody else, but when it comes to music while driving I prefer classical music! Thus, the relaxed piano opening kind of speaks to me (not saying its classical music, though)! Gotta love use of major IV (melodic minor!). Its got some nice harmonies, such as bVII7 to help lead to the switch to its relative minor. Theme gets presented quietly at 0:35, yay. Very nice final synth pad chord at 0:59 it plays every possible note in the chord through the 11th! Pretty standard 90s metal comes in, but 90s generally means a style I like! Standard jazz organ is standard, but I love the way it revs as it comes in! Just like a race car. Then it hangs over (with a little fall) with such style as everything else is reverberating at 1:21! Rarely do I not think that jazz organ helps things! Oh, yeah, and I gotta add that the organ complements the beat very nicely. Standard electric guitar, standard melody, so its not TOO exciting at first. But things heat up at 1:59. Guitar goes up to the high register with such intensity especially when its that high D at 2:04, and then the harmonies hang around the #6 and dominant chordsahhh, the way the melody outlines that is SO AWESOME!! Oh, yeah, and that whole section has those harp arpeggios that are very nice! 2:11 I like the way the drummer does those triplets in the little break, the way they get split up. Finally, we get the climax at 2:13! More nice harmonies and altered scale notes and that shake in the middle make this so much fun =D! Jazz organ gets the spotlight for a moment nice outlines, particularly the diminished one at 2:43. Fun guitar solo. More of that revving I love at 5:00. Finally, nice way to wind down, similar to how it starts.


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Haste_2
11/21/20 8:11:25 PM
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Thanksgiving is coming up, which means I may not post any rankings next week. I decided I'd do a few more today, though.

I updated the rankings. I went through and revised the score for everything rated below a 7. I also adjusted the others down a bit to reflect my newer rating standards. Sometime I'll quickly go through the other music, too, and make adjustments if they are significant.

This one's next, huh....

46) Super Smash Bros. Melee - Mother 2
Series ranking: 1 of 4
https://youtu.be/Ij0HptqoBxI
Composer: Keiichi Suzuki, arr. by Hirokazu Ando
Score: 8.9/10 (Excellent)
VGMC History: VGMC 5 (Lost R5 to Life)
Favorite Part: https://youtu.be/Ij0HptqoBxI?t=76

Dont know if you all have heard the original Ness house theme, but MAN, this remix is so much better it is RIDICULOUS! Or did this theme originate in the original Mother in a track called Pollyanna? Oh, here it is, the very original theme. https://youtu.be/2w6siYk_Ge0 This is pure feel-good music. The melody is pure bliss!

Back to the remix itself. It pretty much revolves around the tonic, but harmonies get really active! I especially like the last part of the melody (at 1:07, etc., where it simply cycles through three a few times; however, sneakily, the harmony is doing a similar movement, but at 1/4 the speed! The piano writing is fun very catchy! I simply love the after-phrase add-ons the piano (plus other instruments) does such as at 0:21!!! So tasteful and jazzy the way it emphasizes certain notes! It makes the i-V7 there sound SO GOOD. 0:31 has nice string writing to spice it off. At 1:00 you gorgeous bell synth thingies! Charming accordian and jazz organ solos with nice simple modulations in the middle of those :). Plus the piano actively comping alongside them. ahhhh, I cant get enough of it, the way it throws in little ideas!!! At 1:45 a major chord on top of another one at the PERFECT time!!!! Piano switches things up at 1:46 its great how it starts each of its ascending arpeggios on the off-beat! (jazz-like) Ah, the thrice repetition of part of the melody at 2:24 feels SO GOOD!!! All in all, this is my favorite music in Melee!

45) The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker - Dragon Roost Island
Series ranking: 1 of 4
https://youtu.be/FkwhtdCW5rI
Composer: Kenta Nagata
Score: 8.9/10 (Excellent)
VGMC History: VGMC 1 (Lost R1), VGMC 2 (Lost R8 to MGS2 Theme)
Favorite Part: https://youtu.be/FkwhtdCW5rI?t=61

Two Nintendo series down back-to-back. Dude, this literally went from losing R1 (it lost to Blue Water, Blue Sky?!) to making R8. Really impressive turnabout, perhaps the best of any retiree! Man, I can't believe I didn't appreciate the theme back when I played Wind Waker way back when. In fact, I totally forgot about it!

But yeah, it is a WONDERFUL rustic, European style. The nimble plucked instrument patterns and pan flute work SO well together. The guitar has just the right amount of mildness to it, and the airiness of the flute is perfect. The nimble guitar tremolos have subtle and unpredictable things about them, so it sounds totally legit as a result, WAY better than any previous retirees with Spanish guitar playing! The harmonies, man the way the harmonies moves from G minor to the temporary B-flat major (0:15) in such a subdued fashion, and likewise to the bII and VI. Then theres the down-to-earth 3-on-2 interaction between the two key parts! (e.g. 1:01 is a WONDERFUL example of it) Then bass (not sure if the bass is a separate instrument) starting at about 0:47 moves such COOL harmonies that somehow fit perfectly with the simple melody and old, rustic feel ! Then those harmonies come back with even more to it after the first minute mark! (I especially like the major IVs) All in all, I can't get ENOUGH of the old-fashioned rustic sound here!

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LeonhartFour
11/21/20 8:12:33 PM
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xp1337
11/21/20 8:20:17 PM
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LeonhartFour posted...
Mother 2 is great
Indeed.

Best SSBM track for sure.

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Team Rocket Elite
11/21/20 8:22:08 PM
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It wasn't back to back but Trombe lost in Round 1 in VGMC then made it to Round 8 in VGMC4.
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th3l3fty
11/21/20 9:03:21 PM
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Mother 2 is an inferior mess of a remix tbqh
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Haste_2
11/21/20 9:08:15 PM
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44) Ar Nosurge - Hidra Heteromycin
Series ranking: 4 of 6 (EXA_PICO)
https://youtu.be/O44aJ9Ywt7Y
Composer: Haruka Shimotsuki, arr. by Eiichiro Yanagi
Other credits: Haruka Shimotsuki (vocalist)
Score: 8.9/10 (Excellent)
VGMC History: VGMC 9 (Lost R3), VGMC 11 (Lost R2), VGMC 12 (Lost R7 to Sunshine Coastline)
Favorite Part: The first main section, as well as the ending

I wonder what such a name translates as? Those BASS GUITARS man very grindy, yet very smooth at the same time...also very unified. Reminds me of hellish music, and I figure the music is about that sort of thing. What a banger.

Nice switch from 3/4 to 4/4 near the start. FUN violin duet if I ever get good at violin this would be something fun to play! CATCHY rhythms in the bass are SO FUN (e.g. at 0:10) ...yes, this a big reason the rating is so high. The vocals are slightly muffled, and that lets us blend in with the style that much better. At 0:35 you get the formal melody I LOVE the syncopated singing and the flatted second note in the scale 1:31 the guitars subside and you got more, um, angelic singers/piano patterns/synths, a good contrast. Good harmonies toward the end of this section, too. But then after that they decide to combine! Both heaven and hell simultaneously! Nice little G.P. at 1:56. 1:57 the guitars GO NUTS, and now angelic choirs make nice support. WILD guitar soloI love the fast rhythmic patterns that kind of get "crammed" in, my favorite part probably being 3:29 - 3:32 :) :). Big crescendo into even longer G.P. at 4:44. Im liking the way it starts to calm down a bit at 5:28, while still maintaining the basic sound. GREAT ending chords starting at 5:51, with major 7ths between the calm violin and the rabid bass as they move down to the resolution!

Eh, why not. Here's a list of all the credits for this track.
Lyrics: Nao Hiyama
Guitar: Eiichiro Yanagi (Astilbe x arendsii)
Violin: Reiko Tsuchiya
All programming: Eiichiro Yanagi (Astilbe x arendsii)

43) Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddys Kong Quest - Stickerbush Symphony
Series ranking: 1 of 5
https://youtu.be/RR_ifniLcW4
Composer: David Wise
Score: 8.9/10 (Excellent)
VGMC History: VGMC 1 (Lost R6 to Dream of a Shore Bordering Another World)
Favorite Part: https://youtu.be/RR_ifniLcW4?t=39

Sorry about the extended play of this, but it's the only upload of this track I could find that sounds right to me. My favorite in the DKC2 OST goes back and forth between Forest Interlude and this, but more towards Stickerbush with NO R AFTER THE B (even the spell-checker doesnt like it!) lately. Very atmospheric and emotional.

Theres the wind blowing (GREAT how it gradually rises in pitch), then theres the multi-channel echoes going on (with cool note choices AND rhythms), you got the synth pads weaving in and out.wow. Beautiful! QUITE the technical accomplishment, back in the day this was. Then you got little graceful melodic fragments carrying the music (a David Wise specialty), not the traditional melody+accompaniment. The electronic synth octave bounces are really awesome, because it plays more of an integral role with the music than youd normally expect. (the last part of each pattern is a BIT overpowering, albeit in a cool, panning fashion but its kind of endearing!! It gives a lot of buzzy oomph! Cool echo effects at random times (at 0:21, etc. with the plucked instrument). At 0:41 you finally get a full melody Ive always imagined that as being Dixie Kongs voice, actually (nevermind Dixie is the guitarist while Diddy is the vocalist normally). It sounds like shes out in an open canyon somewhere filling the empty space as much as she can singing her heart out about all of her innermost longings, knowing that nobody is around to hear it ;) I just love how it soars!!! It PIERCES my heart when it comes in!!!! Finally at 1:09 we hear some percussion to top it off. Harmonic patterns are very nice throughout, of course. Overall, this music is just greeeaaaattt!!!

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Haste_2
11/28/20 5:19:36 PM
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Haste_2
11/30/20 11:51:47 PM
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Back to work!!

42) Dra+Koi - Love Song of a Certain Dragon
https://youtu.be/a2kyr1S7Tfg
Composer: Ikuko Ebata, arr. by Toh Ohyama,
Other credits: Kanako Ito (vocalist)
Score: 8.9/10 (Excellent)
VGMC History: VGMC 5 (Lost R6 to Unfinished Battle)
Favorite Part: First 22 seconds

Haha, wow, this music BLOWS you away right off the bat! Man, that BEAT at the start the rhythmic chants, that double-reeded instrument (the pickup is GREAT), and theres the alternating between 2*3 beats and 3*2 beats...The low-pitched drums/claps/chants in combination are SO CATCHY. And the way it it quickly modulates to the major IVWOOOOOOOOWWW!!!! I wish I could say the rest of the music lives up to the intro, but. not quite. When the dynamics drop at 0:22, it doesnt give me that insane high anymore. The vocals are nice, though. But I gotta note that the main idea at the start is in five despite the meter, which allows for the seamless transition from 6/4 to 5/4. Good folk-like use of acoustic guitar here. The high comes back somewhat when we hear the starting material again!! Theres some electronic sustained sound that blends in with the guitars that I really like (such as at 1:44), too. 2:51 unexpectedly brings electric guitar to the forefront to give us a sort of folk rock sound for a little whilenot bad, actually! Not so sure on those synths after that, though. But anyway, It finishes off with an unexpected big low note (pun not intended because it ends NICELY :) :) :))!!! Anyway, this is some of catchiest folk dance I've ever heard!

41) 13 Sentinels: Aegis Rim - -[Deoxyribose]-
Series ranking: 2 of 2
https://youtu.be/mlmYYyzek48
Rating: 8.9/10 (Excellent)
Composer: Yoshimi Kudo
VGMC History: VGMC 14 (Lost R7 to Endeavor)
Favorite part: https://youtu.be/mlmYYyzek48?t=96

Fact: the only way I could prevent myself from continuously getting Deoxyribose and Isoleucine mixed up is the fact that Deo nominated this one! Very convenient way to remember it, indeed. =p This is a bit tough to write about. Just spew some words. MAN the atmosphere on this is fantastic! Cool ambient electronic metal here. Very much a banger, indeed.

Those staccato 16th note patterns to start off are simply :) :) :), very 80s. (I dont really like 80s electronic stuff on its own, but I love music that borrows stuff from it) The electronic bass gives a similar feeling when combined with the percussion. String samples fit in this so well, too. At 0:50 comes the refrain, which is very catchy and you know things are serious! But what I LOVE about it are those POWERFUL 16th bass note runs leading into the melody EPIC! Ive never heard the bass done in that kind of way...but man, theyre overpowering if you use bass-heavy headphones! At 1:36 we get these STUNNING delayed voice samples that sound so distant and pensive. Yeah, its my favorite instrument in this track, for sure! Plus combined with the mellow bass and the soft string harmonies its really something else! At 2:33 we get a heavy dose of rock b/c of that HYPERactive bass! I admit I dont like this new feel as much, but its pretty fun! I enjoy the modified notes (such as in the bass) in the refrain the next time around. Honestly, the electric guitar melodies at 3:31 fall a bit flat. At 5:53 we get those lovely voice samples again, but it quickly leads into a quick path into the ending (which is apparently the victory music), my favorite part of the whole thing!

The only problem is that Im not sure if this should count as part of it! In the end I decided to exclude it, as its really not part of it, and Isoleucine didnt have its own ending attached to it when it competed. But I already wrote some notes on this and I dont feel like deleting them! We got those same sounds used for those 16th notes patterns, but now theyre 8th notes. Mmm, and the same bass and stuff as before. But yeah, at this slower tempo the atmosphere gets milked to the fullest extent! The harmonies here are really nice, too. Also, the subdued electric guitar is DEFINITELY the best use of the instrument, right here...REALLY great nuances in it. And when the voice samples get put on top of it with the same melody as before, OMG!!! The hair on my arms get raised everytime I hear that. Wow, what a way to make this piece wind down! Seriously, the ending section is a 9.5+/10! Ive listened to quite a bit of the 13 Sentinels soundtrack, and its excellent! I ought to listen to more basiscape music, though.

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LeonhartFour
11/30/20 11:52:31 PM
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xp1337
11/30/20 11:54:12 PM
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So is Deoxyribose.

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Haste_2
12/01/20 12:11:23 AM
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And that, my friends, finishes the Excellent tier! Congrats to the 40 that managed to get into the Amazing / Phenomonal / Godly tiers!

13 Sentinels: Aegis Rim - -(Isoleucine)-
Ar Nosurge - Class::EXSPHERE_NOSURGE
Ar tonelico II: Melody of Metafalica - The Second Tower
Ar tonelico II: Melody of Metafalica - EXEC_SPHILIA/.
Atelier Ayesha - Yesterday's Opponents are Today's Ingredients
Atelier Ayesha - Invitation Flower~ Autumn
Atelier Rorona Plus: The Alchemist of Arland - Flash Frost
Atelier Shallie - Flying Clouds, Drifting Haze
Baldr Heart - Innocence & Emptiness
Bravely Default - Wicked Flight
Civilization IV - Baba Yetu
Cytus 2 - Chocolate Missile
Drakengard 3 - Kuroi Ita ~ The Black Song (International Version)
DuckTales - The Moon
Fire Emblem Fates - Desire Below (Flow)
Fire Emblem Fates - End of All (Land)
G-Darius - Kimera II
Ginga Force - Zenith
GITADORA OverDrive - Douwa Kairou
Halo 2 - Halo Theme (Mjolnir Mix)
Idola Phantasy Star Saga - Endeavour
Kingdom Hearts - Hikari Kingdom Orchestra
Kirby Triple Deluxe - Moonstruck Blossom
Legend of Mana - Title
Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater - Main Theme
Neotokyo - Tin Soldiers
Okami - The Sun Rises
Opoona - Partizans
Phantasy Star Online 2 - GUERRANT-OFENZA-SUPRONT-UNNE
Pokemon Super Mystery Dungeon - Second Dark Matter Battle
Sound Voltex III: Gravity Wars - Preserved Valkyria
Super Mario Galaxy - Floater Land/Buoy Base Galaxy
Taiko no Tatsujin 7 - Burning Force Medley
Terraria Calamity Mod - The Filthy Mind (Theme of the Hive Mind)
The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky FC - The Whereabouts of Light
Umineko no Naku Koro ni 4 - Endless Nine
Umineko no Naku Koro ni Chiru 8 - Ricordando il Passato
Xenoblade Chronicles - Engage the Enemy
Xenoblade Chronicles - Unfinished Battle
Xenoblade Chronicles 2: Torna ~ The Golden Country - Battle!!

That's seven Gust tracks in the top 40! Happy, xp?

Let me know if there are any errors in the names of the games or the tracks here.

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xp1337
12/01/20 12:27:38 AM
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Haste_2 posted...
Happy, xp?
never

Haste_2 posted...


Let me know if there are any errors in the names of the games or the tracks here.
Drakengard 3 - Kuroi Ita should be Drakengard 3 - Kuroi Uta

Less of a big deal but: Ar Nosurge - Class::EXSPHERE_NOSURGE should be Ar nosurge - Class::EXSPHERE_NOSURGE; (The n in nosurge is lowercase AFAIK and the song name ends in a semicolon as per its obvious coding language influence)

Also not really an error but the "some Gust games have their subtitles some don't" irks me a bit but that's just a consistency thing and VGMC itself is all over the board on whether it runs with game subtitles or not. AT2 and Rorona have theirs, Ar nosurge, Ayesha, and Shallie don't.

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azuarc
12/01/20 12:27:40 AM
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Haste_2 posted...
Let me know if there are any errors in the names of the games or the tracks here.


Haste_2 posted...
Umineko no Naku Koro ni Chiru 8 - Ricordando il Passato

I'm pretty sure you have the wrong Umineko track here. This is the top quartile, so you must have copy-pasted the wrong line in your sheet.

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PIayer_0
12/01/20 12:36:05 AM
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Haste can blame the Kuroi Ita on whoever filled out the retiree list in VGMC total stats

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Arti
12/01/20 12:42:22 AM
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azuarc posted...
I'm pretty sure you have the wrong Umineko track here. This is the top quartile, so you must have copy-pasted the wrong line in your sheet.
Pretty sure the other Umineko track he put in the top 40 is actually the wrong one

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LeonhartFour
12/01/20 1:59:59 AM
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Haste_2
12/02/20 12:05:07 AM
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PIayer_0 posted...
Haste can blame the Kuroi Ita on whoever filled out the retiree list in VGMC total stats

Nonsense. Everything in the total stats sheet is correct, even if they become incorrect when you copy and paste from it.


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Haste_2
12/02/20 11:23:39 PM
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Time for some ACE ATTORNEY!!!! I created a top five, but then things changed, so I ended up with six write-ups. That means to start with an honorable mention!! I wish these all could do well in contests....

HM) Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - Dual Destinies - Ace Attorney 5 ~ Court Begins
Ranking within Retirees: 54.5
https://youtu.be/YD1ULJRRKxY
Composer: Noriyuki Iwadare
Score: 8.8/10 (Excellent)
Favorite part: The first 26 seconds.
VGMC History: (none)

I gotta call this one of the more criminally underrated tracks in the series (excuse the pun, hehe)! This trial theme is awesome because it can be used as both a regular trial AND for suspense. The Ace Attorney is known for having not-so-sophisticated music, but this is somewhat of an exception. The harmonies alone makes this theme compelling. The Phrygian feel in the first half is coo, but I love all the KEY CHANGES in particular I love how you get a standard tonic-bII-tonic in G, but then suddenly bII gets used to move to the key of A in the first section. The rhythm section does those cool sets of four-sixteenth notes that seem to highlight the off-beats rather than the downbeat rhythmic tricks like this are GREAT and add depth! Other highlights include that tritone on top of bII at :08 and other places, a very INTENSE/DISSONANT moment there, especially with the brass joining in right then, too =O. I love the placement of the percussive chords (a common thing in Dual Destinies OST) at 0:27 with some subtle reverb there. 1:12 is the simplest part of it all (just a few octaves, but the way it tags on to that dark ending is totally GROOVY =D! I could talk about more things--There is so much to love about this particular Court Begins theme!

5) Ace Attorney Investigations: Miles Edgeworth - Confess the Truth 2009
Ranking among Retirees: 52.5
https://youtu.be/Rz0IgN_MfmI
Composer: Noriyuki Iwadare
Score: 8.8/10 (Excellent)
Favorite part: All of it.
VGMC History: (none)

Back when I did an Ace Attorney music-ranking topic on this board (back in like 2015), this was 9th place back then. I'm 99% sure my top ten Ace Attorney music at the time was.

  1. AAI2 - Pursuit ~ Wanting to the Find the Truth
  2. PW:AA - Pursuit ~ Cornered
  3. AAI2 - Confrontation ~ Presto
  4. PW:DD - Athena Cykes ~ Courtroom Revolutionairre 2013
  5. PW:DD - Apollo Justice ~ A New Chapter of Trials 2013
  6. AAI2 - Gregory Edgeworth ~ A Defense Attorneys Knowledge
  7. PW:T&T - Cross-Examination ~ Allegro 2004
  8. PW:DD - Pursuit ~ Keep Pressing On
  9. AAI - Confess the Truth 2009
  10. AAI - Pursuit ~ Lying Coldly
Okay, you probably rate this 3/10 just because the violins sound ratty, and yes, that does hurt my rating. Anyway, this is no doubt my #1 in the series in mood-setting. Very dark/suspenseful/groovy ohhh, the powerful feelings! But it's amazing how odd time, even something like 5/4, seems to make the atmosphere even better here, more alive! Also, the slow tempo really magnifies the feeling, too... there's at least one VGMC retiree yet to appear that I adore for a very similar reason!

The basic idea is really cool with two lines interacting with each other, the lower line just focusing on one or two notes...this kind of thing is common in Ace Attorney, but I cant think of another track that does it better than one! Then you add the other stuff and the feeling gets upped tenfold! The strings then introduce the real melody, but it stays out of the way to milk that piano idea.the three ideas going on at the same time is SO COOL. CATCHY, too. Whats interesting is how certain notes you expect to hear in the piano are omitted, but because of everything else going on, you wnot notice it unless youre listening closely. The effect is interesting. Love the moments where the bass gets active, too. (At 0:47 we get a new contrasting section (a new dramatic feel), this time more chord/unified/percussion-focused ). I LOVE the way they do those syncopated rhythms, too, ahhh, the FEELINGS they exude! Great way to finish off the loop!

Perhaps the best way to describe this theme, though, is from a comment from a YouTube user named Miles Edgeworth (fitting name): Do you hear it? The sound of the truth being revealed!


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"Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So... what is a party?"
"You drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think."
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12/02/20 11:40:43 PM
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4) Professor Layton vs. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - Logic and Witchcraft
Ranking with Retirees: 52.25
https://youtu.be/QLJtSws3rBs
Composer: Yasumasa Kitagawa
Score: 8.8/10 (Excellent)
Favorite part: https://youtu.be/QLJtSws3rBs?t=30
VGMC History: (none)

This one just barely beats out AAI's Confess the Truth. Yeah, the title of this track is kind of contradictory (excuse the pun AGAIN, eheh). But in this game Phoenix Wright is literally defending in witch trials, so yeah! But anyway, theres a Logic theme in every game in the series. The logic themes from Dai Gyakuten Saiban and Apollo Justice are more popular, but to me, this one tops them all. PLvPWs soundtrack tends to be very acoustic/orchestral compared to other games, and this is one of my favorite examples of that. Add it's filled with the kind of details that I love.

I enjoy the lightness of the theme, while at the same time its very serious and foreboding kind of a Final Jeopardy feeling...it accomplishes those feelings very well. The harpsichord is not supposed to be able to do accents or change volume, but hey, I like the accents it does here! It gets even better when it switches to the bells. ahhhhhh. But I especially love the way the strings get used ! Love the crescendos and pizzes the way they support the theme. The support gets even better at 0:30 with the pizzes and reverse piano effects working together such cool light ambient crescendos! Finally, Im just a fan of the melody its just so nice for reasons I cant explain! Well, it goes back and forth between nat-6 and b6, so that's one reason. All in all, I just feel like this theme is SO GOOD for what it's intended to be.


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"Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So... what is a party?"
"You drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think."
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