Poll of the Day > Respect to Mitt Romney.

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GanonsSpirit
02/05/20 7:01:24 PM
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Not much, but some.
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aDirtyShisno
02/05/20 7:16:32 PM
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Pretty sure thats going to cost him reelection if any Republican runs against him in the future.

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faramir77
02/05/20 7:18:01 PM
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If Mitt had been elected when you had the chance, Trump would never have happened.

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Yellow
02/05/20 7:26:27 PM
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The only thing I have respect for is that he was rightfully anti-torture and a war hero for protecting his allies under torture himself.

Otherwise he was another mainstream George Bush war-hawk politician put on a pedestal as being more reasonable for some reason.

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GanonsSpirit
02/05/20 7:55:44 PM
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Yellow posted...
The only thing I have respect for is that he was rightfully anti-torture and a war hero for protecting his allies under torture himself.

Otherwise he was another mainstream George Bush war-hawk politician put on a pedestal as being more reasonable for some reason.

You're thinking of John McCain, my dude.
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Cacciato
02/05/20 7:56:50 PM
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Yellow posted...
rightfully anti-torture and a war hero for protecting his allies under torture himself.
Interesting
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Yellow
02/05/20 7:59:16 PM
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GanonsSpirit posted...
You're thinking of John McCain, my dude.
Fuck.

I already forgot about Mitt Romney.

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BeerOnTap
02/05/20 8:10:15 PM
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This thread is a shining beacon of how politically inept most people on this board are. Cringe.
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HornedLion
02/05/20 8:13:18 PM
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Romney deserves no respect.

He can do whatever the fuck he wants and Mormon Utah will back him. WHATEVER the fuck he wants.

And right now he wanted to spite the man that played him like a fiddle by causing the vote to impeach him to be bi-partisan. Trump is definitely not happy about that and technically hes the first president whose guilty vote was indeed bipartisan.

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Zeus
02/05/20 8:39:31 PM
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Zero respect for Romney, who has consistently opposed Trump because Trump did what Romney couldn't and rubbed his face in it every step of the way. Romney's actions today may be touted as unprecedented, but he he also released a diss track against Trump -- iirc --- during the general election. He's always been a hardcore #nevertrumper and this wasn't so much a principled stand as it was just one more craven attack.


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Blighboy
02/05/20 8:43:02 PM
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The biggest piece of bullshit that Trumpers have been pushing these past few years is that if you don't like Trump then you can't legitimately criticize him.

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Zeus
02/05/20 8:58:17 PM
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Blighboy posted...
The biggest piece of bullshit that Trumpers have been pushing these past few years is that if you don't like Trump then you can't legitimately criticize him.

The biggest piece of bullshit that people have been spewing is that if you legitimately criticize a #nevertrumper for #nevertrumping, you're a Trump supporter. More importantly, Romney doesn't care whether the allegation is true or not, it's just one more avenue for attacking Trump.

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Mead
02/05/20 9:00:10 PM
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Just watched Romneys speech from this afternoon. He seems genuine in his decision.

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Blighboy
02/05/20 9:05:56 PM
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Zeus posted...
The biggest piece of bullshit that people have been spewing is that if you legitimately criticize a #nevertrumper for #nevertrumping, you're a Trump supporter. More importantly, Romney doesn't care whether the allegation is true or not, it's just one more avenue for attacking Trump.
I #MAGA can't #redcaps believe #tolerantleft anyone #crazynancy would #bighands call #daddydonald me #bigdickdon a #trumper trumper

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Blighboy
02/05/20 9:06:30 PM
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also

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nicknames_used_by_Donald_Trump

new favourite wikipedia article

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Zeus
02/05/20 9:41:04 PM
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Blighboy posted...
I #MAGA can't #redcaps believe #tolerantleft anyone #crazynancy would #bighands call #daddydonald me #bigdickdon a #trumper trumper

I can't believe such bilious braying would be used by a Blighboy to blight this board. How boorish!

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Smarkil
02/05/20 11:20:37 PM
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HornedLion posted...
He can do whatever the fuck he wants and Mormon Utah will back him. WHATEVER the fuck he wants.

Not really. A lot of Utah mormons are butthurt about this.

If you ask me, he's just being politically skeevy. I sincerely doubt he would have voted for impeachment had he thought there were any chance it would have happened.

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bulbinking
02/05/20 11:32:24 PM
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BeerOnTap posted...
This thread is a shining beacon of how politically inept most people on this board are. Cringe.

Yeah obvious move to gain favor with popular vote.

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Mead
02/05/20 11:33:24 PM
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bulbinking posted...
Yeah obvious move to gain favor with popular vote.

smart considering the majority of Americans think that trump should have been removed from office

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HornedLion
02/06/20 1:30:59 AM
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Smarkil posted...
Not really. A lot of Utah mormons are butthurt about this.

If you ask me, he's just being politically skeevy. I sincerely doubt he would have voted for impeachment had he thought there were any chance it would have happened.

No. They look at the world this way:

Mormons/Utah > GOP > Country

Mitt Romney is one of theirs. So they will back him first and foremost.


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Phantom_Nook
02/06/20 2:15:59 AM
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Blighboy posted...
The biggest piece of bullshit that Trumpers have been pushing these past few years is that if you don't like Trump then you can't legitimately criticize him.

Also if a Republican ever doesn't lick Trump's boots, then they're a secret Democrat.

ex: John Bolton.
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Smarkil
02/06/20 3:39:02 AM
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HornedLion posted...


No. They look at the world this way:

Mormons/Utah > GOP > Country

Mitt Romney is one of theirs. So they will back him first and foremost.

I live in Utah and am formerly mormon. No.

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BlackScythe0
02/06/20 11:22:40 AM
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Zeus posted...
Zero respect for Romney, who has consistently opposed Trump because Trump did what Romney couldn't and rubbed his face in it every step of the way. Romney's actions today may be touted as unprecedented, but he he also released a diss track against Trump -- iirc --- during the general election. He's always been a hardcore #nevertrumper and this wasn't so much a principled stand as it was just one more craven attack.

lol gotta wonder if you actually believe this.

"Yea it's not because Trump shit all over the constitution, it's just because he's jealous of Trump".
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Fam_Fam
02/06/20 11:40:03 AM
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Mead posted...
smart considering the majority of Americans think that trump should have been removed from office

poll i saw had 46% on removal
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Mead
02/06/20 12:45:03 PM
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Fam_Fam posted...
poll i saw had 46% on removal

wow one poll huh?

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HornedLion
02/06/20 1:11:30 PM
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Smarkil posted...
I live in Utah and am formerly mormon. No.

This is not what my Mormon friends tell me. Lol, all of which have tried to convert at some point or another. Apparently it isnt good enough to just be a Christian. You gotta dive in head first into Joseph Smith.

But anyway, even IF the Mormon community is turning on Romney for this, that just highlights some huge issues within their belief system. Romney, who Im no fan of, took a stand(supposedly) because of his religion. His convictions. And those who share those same beliefs turn on him over a man who shits on the beliefs of ALL religions daily. Sad.

But then again... does the Bible not say that, ...he will deceive many?

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Fam_Fam
02/06/20 2:28:18 PM
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Mead posted...
wow one poll huh?

as opposed to the sourceless claim that it's the majority?

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/impeachment-polls/

47.7% here.
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Smarkil
02/06/20 2:52:15 PM
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HornedLion posted...
This is not what my Mormon friends tell me. Lol, all of which have tried to convert at some point or another. Apparently it isnt good enough to just be a Christian. You gotta dive in head first into Joseph Smith.

But anyway, even IF the Mormon community is turning on Romney for this, that just highlights some huge issues within their belief system. Romney, who Im no fan of, took a stand(supposedly) because of his religion. His convictions. And those who share those same beliefs turn on him over a man who shits on the beliefs of ALL religions daily. Sad.

But then again... does the Bible not say that, ...he will deceive many?

If given an option between someone who is a mormon and isn't they're likely going to pick the guy thats a mormon. Who wouldn't? In theory that person shares your ideals. But as a senator for the state where most of his competition is going to be mormon as well, it's not going to do him any good. I think he's going to have a difficult time securing his position. Last time it was something like 53% vs 47% for him to get the GOP senate nomination.

As it is, Utah mormons didn't love Romney. That's why there was a weird grass roots movement for the Mcmullin dude. They don't like Trump either, but they also seem to see agree that the impeachment stuff is a farce.

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HornedLion
02/06/20 2:57:55 PM
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Smarkil posted...
They don't like Trump either, but they also seem to see agree that the impeachment stuff is a farce.

I dont understand how anyone could, and thats taking into account Fox News. If you sit and watch it, with a completely open mind, you still find so many weird ass holes in their reporting. Thats if the ad hominems dont completely turn you off.

Its so clear that even GOP senators say what he did was wrong.

Can you imagine the shit storm if it was Obama? He wouldve been the first black president and the first impeached AND removed.

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Smarkil
02/06/20 3:17:48 PM
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HornedLion posted...
I dont understand how anyone could, and thats taking into account Fox News. If you sit and watch it, with a completely open mind, you still find so many weird ass holes in their reporting. Thats if the ad hominems dont completely turn you off.

Its so clear that even GOP senators say what he did was wrong.

Can you imagine the shit storm if it was Obama? He wouldve been the first black president and the first impeached AND removed.

Whether or not you believe Trump is worthy of being impeached, and I believe he is, this was absolutely just a political move on the part of the democrats. They knew there was no chance of him actually being impeached. They just wanted the impeachment proceedings to happen so they can bring it up during the election cycle and hope that it influences voters to move their way. The fact that they did weird shit like not bringing in Bolton in their own hearings is fucking weird.

And no, I don't think Obama would have been impeached either. It would have been the same situation. Clinton had almost the same situation except the GOP controlled both the senate and house. He was brought up for impeachment in the house and acquitted by the senate. But it was almost entirely partisan then too.

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OhhhJa
02/06/20 3:29:33 PM
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People acting like the DNC wouldn't have protected Obama at all costs are delusional
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Blighboy
02/06/20 4:05:33 PM
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OhhhJa posted...
People acting like the DNC wouldn't have protected Obama at all costs are delusional
Oh shit, Ohhhja has brought out the baseless hypothetical claims, we're fucked now /s

Libs have thrown people under the bus for less. This defence is just admitting you're wrong and pretending everyone else is at your level.

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HornedLion
02/06/20 4:09:37 PM
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Smarkil posted...
Whether or not you believe Trump is worthy of being impeached, and I believe he is, this was absolutely just a political move on the part of the democrats.

This whole things IS political. Lol do you think the senators in deep red states are voting to not remove him because they really think its the right thing to do?

Nevertheless, the American people have to contend with the influence of corporations and now, thanks to Trump, theyll also have to deal with other nations and their desires for our nation. Sad.

Ill say it again, 2020 is the fight for Americas soul. But I know second Babylon is meant to fall.

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OhhhJa
02/06/20 5:14:20 PM
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Blighboy posted...
Oh shit, Ohhhja has brought out the baseless hypothetical claims, we're fucked now /s

Libs have thrown people under the bus for less. This defence is just admitting you're wrong and pretending everyone else is at your level.
Well someone is super angry and reaching. I wasn't attempting to defend trump at all. Just saying you're delusional if you don't think the dnc has proven time and time again to be crooked. For example attempting to rig the primary for Hillary
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Extreme_light
02/06/20 5:24:20 PM
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aDirtyShisno posted...
Pretty sure thats going to cost him reelection if any Republican runs against him in the future.

I think he's fine if he sticks with Utah

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streamofthesky
02/06/20 5:45:42 PM
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Even bigger respect to Doug Jones, already far less safe than Romney as a Democrat in Alabama, for doing the right thing and voting based on the facts and not political expedience.
Sadly he likely doomed his re-election, considering the last time he only just barely was able to defeat a convicted criminal and (strongly) alleged pedophile. Unless Roy Moore runs again, he's probably out.
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Blighboy
02/06/20 5:49:33 PM
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OhhhJa posted...
I wasn't attempting to defend trump at all
Imagine lying so often yet so badly

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OhhhJa
02/06/20 6:06:28 PM
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Blighboy posted...
Imagine lying so often yet so badly

Can you imagine the s*** storm if it was Obama? He wouldve been the first black president and the first impeached AND removed.

First off, I think you may not have realized I was responding to this point which coincidentally is also a baseless hypothetical. Anyway I'm not afraid to admit that I think this whole thing was a bunch of garbage and merely politics. You guys should know that by now
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OhhhJa
02/06/20 6:08:54 PM
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Also, if it had been Obama we probably just wouldn't have heard about it since he had a lot of people in government and media wrapped around his finger. But also there was evidence to suggest that he spied on trump's campaign but of course major media outlets won't say much about that
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GanonsSpirit
02/06/20 6:10:25 PM
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OhhhJa posted...
But also there was evidence to suggest that he spied on trump's campaign

If by "evidence" you mean "totally debunked claims", then sure.
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Smarkil
02/06/20 6:22:47 PM
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HornedLion posted...
Nevertheless, the American people have to contend with the influence of corporations and now, thanks to Trump, theyll also have to deal with other nations and their desires for our nation. Sad.

What you've just said has literally always been the case. There's never been a point in which corporations haven't influenced elections or when outside nations haven't either. And why shouldn't they? They have a vested interest in the elections of the most influential country in the world. We've done the exact same thing to other countries throughout our history as well. It behooves us to do so. It has nothing to do with Trump except that he's an asshole and may or may not be more willing than others to cooperate with their concerns.

Shit, we allegedly bugged Merkels phone for years. You'd have to be naive to think we're not actively fucking with the elections of other countries.

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