Current Events > Rey's Lineage: What should it have been? *Star Wars Saga Spoilers*

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She should have been one of Luke's students.

I don't care about bloodline or whatever, but that was an obvious connection.

Finn's treatment is terrible too.

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Either Palpatine or Nobody, either one is a good avenue to take. Either way, she's a Skywalker in the end.

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The_Ivory_Man posted...

She should have been one of Luke's students.

You know that could have hit all the point. She was a no body and yet it explains why she can do all this shit.

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cjsdowg posted...

Finn is all you need, you don't need that slave kid.

The point of the slave kid is to show that Luke's story is inspiring people all over the galaxy.

Although yes Finn should have been a Jedi for TROS.

darkphoenix181 posted...

If they wanted to do legacy blood thing, could have related him to Mace Windu even.

Please no.
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cjsdowg posted...

You know that could have hit all the point. She was a no body and yet it explains why she can do all this shit.

They would need to have her dumped on Jakku, train as a Jedi, mind wiped and then dumped on Jakku again.
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She should have been a Binks

Darmik posted...

Please no.

Why not? Windu was one of the best Jedi.

https://medium.com/@Oozer3993/george-lucas-episode-vii-c272563cc3ba

It's pretty hilarious reading this article now.

- George Lucas was the guy who wanted to work with Kathleen Kennedy for his new trilogy. It also sounds like he wanted the female lead
- He wanted the new trilogy to be about Luke's kids. A brother and sister
- Those characters eventually morphed into Rey and Finn
- Luke going into exile because a student betrayed him was also around when he was working on it
- The guy writing episode 7 couldn't think of a way to make Luke a major character without him overshadowing the new people
- Luke going into exile because a student betrayed him was also around when Lucas was still there
- Han Solo was always going to be killed in episode 7 thanks to Harrison Ford
- At one point the villain was going to be an evil Twi'lek Sith who converts Luke's student to the Dark Side. Then it was just a student who converts to the Dark Side
- George wanted the movies to explain the Force even more through Wills. Which sounds fucking terrible
- Original ideas floating for JJ in TFA was to go to the sunken Death Star to find coordinates to Luke (lol)
- According to Kathleen Kennedy the idea to bring back Palpatine did exist around TFA
- Mark Hamill thought he'd be in the ST more

It sounds like the ST was always going to be a mess
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Darmik posted...

At one point the villain was going to be an evil Twi'lek Sith who converts Luke's student to the Dark Side. Then it was just a student who converts to the Dark Side

So Snoke being an ugly alien was likely because he was originally a sith

darkphoenix181 posted...

Why not? Windu was one of the best Jedi.

Because it's dumb. Nothing in the PT hinted he had kids and we don't need every single new Force user to be a secret love child.
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Kenobi. Because he talks to her in The Force Awakens.

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VTBM posted...

Kenobi. Because he talks to her in The Force Awakens.

Yeah but you see now he did that for uh reasons

cjsdowg posted...

BUt most Jedi were from non jedi parents. This idea is nothing new, they can still have that.

citation needed. We don't see hardly any of the jedi's parents in the movies.

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Darmik posted...

They would need to have her dumped on Jakku, train as a Jedi, mind wiped and then dumped on Jakku again.

Luke Assumes her killed, however some how she escape on the exiting ship. However due to the trauma she is having memory lose so she goes back to the last place she really remembers. I could spend some time to flesh it out a little more , but that already more then what we got for Pal in the TROS .(lol0

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stoltenberg11 posted...

citation needed. We don't see hardly any of the jedi's parents in the movies.

Jedi's don't normally married, or have loving relationships since passion like that can leave to the dark side.

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darkphoenix181 posted...

So Snoke being an ugly alien was likely because he was originally a tei'lek sith

They also called the villain a 'Jedi Killer' so the motivations were probably different than the First Order.
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star wars inability to get away from mystery reveals of true identity has seriously but me off the series as a whole. its pervasive in all the media, completely reliant on making everyone either related to or secretly someone.

cjsdowg posted...

Jedi's don't normally married, or have loving relationships since passion like that can leave to the dark side.

oh yeah that's true i misread it as force sensitive parents

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She might as well been related to Rey Mysterio and it would have been more interesting at least it would make for a great comedy

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stoltenberg11 posted...

citation needed.

Uh, how about the fact that there aren't a bunch of people using the force around?

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NPGOperator posted...

star wars inability to get away from mystery reveals of true identity has seriously but me off the series as a whole. its pervasive in all the media, completely reliant on making everyone either related to or secretly someone.

This has really only happened like...five or six times, total? Luke and Leia being Vader's kids can count as three if you really, really want it to. Rey being a Palpatine, Padme being the queen (not much of a mystery since it's revealed in her first movie,) and Snoke being one of Palpatine's puppets.

Ben/Kylo Ren being Han/Leia's son isn't even a mystery, it's revealed like a third of the way through the first movie he's in.

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Gobstoppers12 posted...

This has really only happened like...five or six times, total? Luke and Leia being Vader's kids can count as three if you really, really want it to. Rey being a Palpatine, Padme being the queen (not much of a mystery since it's revealed in her first movie,) and Snoke being one of Palpatine's puppets.

Ben/Kylo Ren being Han/Leia's son isn't even a mystery, it's revealed like a third of the way through the first movie he's in.

You missed;
- C-3PO was revealed to be built by Anakin
- R2-D2 already went on adventures with Anakin and Obi-Wan
- The Clone Troopers were revealed to be cloned from Boba Fett's Dad
- Count Dooku was Yoda's apprentice (I don't remember if this was a big deal but it's still a major connection)

It's also implied that Palpatine created Anakin and Lando was the kidnapped girls Dad in TROS
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Darmik posted...

Lando was the kidnapped girls Dad in TROS

That movie happened so fast, I'm not sure what this is.

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Darmik posted...

Lando was the kidnapped girls Dad in TROS

uhhhhh i think he just wanted to bang her

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ssjevot posted...

That movie happened so fast, I'm not sure what this is.

The exiled First Order Troopers that Finn stumbled on were lead by a woman who was kidnapped at the kid.

Randomly near the end of the movie Lando asks where's she's from and she says she doesn't know. Then Lando says lets find out together and gives a weird smile. Apparently there's a deleted scene where Lando says his daughter was kidnapped.

stoltenberg11 posted...

uhhhhh i think he just wanted to bang her

https://www.insider.com/star-wars-the-rise-of-skywalker-lando-calrissian-daughter-2019-12

Nope!
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Darmik posted...

The exiled First Order Troopers that Finn stumbled on were lead by a woman who was kidnapped at the kid.

Randomly near the end of the movie Lando asks where's she's from and she says she doesn't know. Then Lando says lets find out together and gives a weird smile. Apparently there's a deleted scene where Lando says his daughter was kidnapped.

Oh good, that scene was super creepy to me initially. I was like is Lando doing his player act again?

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Darmik posted...

It's also implied that Palpatine created Anakin and Lando was the kidnapped girls Dad in TROS

It has been that way for years. However just now they have gone back and said that wasn't the case. So the Rey and Kylo cuss would not be inbred love.

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She shouldve been a vergence in the Force.

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Her being nobody was really good. By comparison, every theory of her being a member of one of three families was extremely bad and creatively bankrupt

I would've walked back halfway. Have her parents be the "nobodies" that Kylo Ren stated they were, but reveal that they had major reasons for leaving Rey behind on Jakku and did so reluctantly. Have them be generally good people forced to do something terrible by circumstance.

You can still have her parents be nobody special, but in a way that solves the mystery in a satisfying way for the character.

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ThanksUglyGod posted...

Nobody, because that's the only thing that makes any sense.

"They sold you to protect you" is one of the worst lines in all of Star Wars.

Not only that, it would also mean that Jedi/Sith can come from anywhere, rather than be related to historical important figures.

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C-3PO and R2-D2 should have been Rey's parents.

Questionmarktarius posted...

C-3PO and R2-D2 should have been Rey's parents.

You see how scared they was to show to women kissing, you think they would really let that happen.

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Too_Many_Limes posted...

I would've walked back halfway. Have her parents be the "nobodies" that Kylo Ren stated they were, but reveal that they had major reasons for leaving Rey behind on Jakku and did so reluctantly. Have them be generally good people forced to do something terrible by circumstance.

You can still have her parents be nobody special, but in a way that solves the mystery in a satisfying way for the character.

Maybe have it revealed that Reys parents knew she was strong with the force and was gonna take her to the new Jedi Academy but then when Kylo killed everyone they were afraid hed find her so they did it to try and protect her. Its a very New Hope copy but then again the whole trilogy was.


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ThunderTrain posted...

Maybe have it revealed that Reys parents knew she was strong with the force and was gonna take her to the new Jedi Academy

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I would have preferred for her to not be descended from the Sith, Jedi, or royalty. Her parents could still have been top officials of the Rebellion or Empire tho. Like they became massive targets and were being hunted down so to keep her safe until things cooled down they left her in the care of someone. Or they could have just been regular people.

I just really dont like that she was sold off to some alien junk dealer that looked & sounded like he wouldnt bother to do the bare minimum in looking after a small child.

But if she needed to have been sold off in the story then they should have shown/included a line or two about her having grown up with other kids and they looked after one another. They were bought by that junk dealer alien to crawl into small spaces on crashed ships & scavenge for the most important parts.

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Steelix500 posted...

She should have been a Binks

*places the lightsabers in the quicksand or whatever (btw did they ever explain this?)*
Old woman: Hi who are you?
Rey: Rey.
Old woman: Just Rey?
*Rey looks over to nowhere, sees Jar-Jar force ghost doing that goofy dance he does and falling on his butt*
Rey:
*ignites yellow lightsaber*
*credits*

EDIT: lmao I had a spoiler block in there that said Meesa Rey Rey Binks but for some reason Gamefaqs dropped, but the idea that she just says nothing and must now kill this woman for even asking is even better lol.

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Also for Rise of Skywalker they should have followed up on some stuff from The Last Jedi. Specifically about the Resistance needing Luke Skywalker and about the galaxy needing a legend. Theres that scene at the end of the kids talking about Luke at the Battle of Crait, and then one of them looks to the sky and raises his broom as if it were a lightsaber.

So in Rise of Skywalker there could have been a line early in the film or in the opening crawl about how Lukes actions on Crait helped inspire more people to join the Resistance but thats its not enough, they need more.

Luke gets more than one scene, he tells Rey what his 3rd lesson is/was and he suggests to her that maybe she can take on the legendary Skywalker name and help inspire & rally more good people throughout the galaxy.

It makes that scene of Lando suddenly bringing an entire fleet composed of random ships throughout the galaxy less ridiculous. Palpatine sent out his Im back *****es! message to the galaxy and Lando uses his connections to spread the word that Skywalker is back and is going after Palpatine again but needs the galaxys help to defeat him once & for all.

ugh whatever

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Luke's lack of use in TRoS was even more insulting than his character in TLJ

DarthAragorn posted...

Luke's lack of use in TRoS was even more insulting than his character in TLJ

Well hes already killed off in TLJ, cant over use force ghosts or the deaths will be less meaningful.


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Cobra1010 posted...

Well hes already killed off in TLJ, cant over use force ghosts or the deaths will be less meaningful.

Wouldn't want to make death less meaningful in a film editing pieces of footage of a dead actress together, about a guy who has been dead for decades getting revived, and a new Force power that lets people steal and give life and stuff.

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Speaking of last names is Yoda sad he doesn't have one.

Cobra1010 posted...

Well hes already killed off in TLJ, cant over use force ghosts or the deaths will be less meaningful.

Obi-Wan did more than Luke did as a ghost. They had unique deaths where they became one with the Force instead of just dying so it is a little different.
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Darmik posted...

Speaking of last names is Yoda sad he doesn't have one.

What if Yoda IS his last name?

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Obi-Wan was killed though.

If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine.


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lol wow you guys are literal

Rey having nobodies for parents was probably the only decent development in TLJ

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iPhone_7 posted...

Obi-Wan was killed though.

If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine.

Yeah that's what I'm talking about. He wasn't just randomly thrown out a window like Mace Windu or whatever.
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Darmik posted...

Speaking of last names is Yoda sad he doesn't have one.

Or perhaps it is just not revealed yet....

Yoda Kenobi Organa Amidala

I think there is some merit to the idea of Rey discovering that her heritage is actually horrific, and not to be honored.

My idea for the scenario is that Rey's relation to Palpatine is largely relevant to him because the genetic descendent thing would make it easier for his will to occupy her body, since its close to his own in an apparently auspicious fashion. Giving her family line a cynical and terrifying purpose could be pretty strong meat. With some good clever writing and such.

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Luke's kid, like the EU.

I'm alright with the Palpatine thing though. It makes sense, Palp had a family and a normal career on Naboo before he went full crazy.

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