Current Events > Why xcom is fucking hard?

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I choice easy but all missions become fucking hard and full red bar
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you should see the original game from the 90's. that was even harder.

Zikten posted...

you should see the original game from the 90's. that was even harder.

Legend has it there was a glitch and all of the difficulty modes were "Easy", and people complained and so for the sequel even "easy" was painful. I thought "Easy" was painful to begin with in classic though -_-.

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SSJGrimReaper posted...

lol damn
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99% but still miss half the time.

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I play android version and I just give up
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that's why you play the superior mario and rabbids

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xcom babey
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miss

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SSJGrimReaper posted...

"Welcome to Xcom."

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Zikten posted...

you should see the original game from the 90's. that was even harder.

Here's a livestream where literally their first mission is a base defense full of tier 2 enemies. It causes them to instantly lose the game. Well, for a certain value of instantly, it takes them an hour to lose the mission.
https://youtu.be/P_VrpVKbaeM?t=26m46s

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The game has a bullshit mechanic built in for "fairness". Basically, if you make too many successful shots, it makes you auto miss an attack, just so it isn't too easy for you.

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Nazanir posted...

"Welcome to Xcom."

XCOM is the true Dark Souls.

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DrizztLink posted...

XCOM is the true Dark Souls.

People who believe Dark Souls is hard, never played the original Ufo: Enemy Unkown.

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SSJGrimReaper posted...

Ain't that the fucking truth

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Never could get into XCom. Getting screwed all the time is not fun.

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ExtremeLuchador posted...

99% but still miss half the time.

What is this, Fire Emblem?

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Even 100% misses

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ar3NwhcCms

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VTBM posted...

Even 100% misses

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ar3NwhcCms

im so angry just watching this

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I take it XCom is mostly big with the masochist community. How is this supposed to be fun?

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VTBM posted...

Even 100% misses

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ar3NwhcCms

Lmao

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https://youtu.be/iyw5fJs8rmg?t=46

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I've lost guys to falling through the map. It's a grid based game, why are physics and collision even a thing for units

Rexdragon125 posted...

I've lost guys to falling through the map. It's a grid based game, why are physics and collision even a thing for units

Due to buildings collapsing from explosions
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Rexdragon125 posted...

I've lost guys to falling through the map. It's a grid based game, why are physics and collision even a thing for units

I've killed plenty enemies by having them drop from heights.

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I played the first one when it was new, didnt have any trouble on normal until the very late stages with the aliens that could devour/instakill.

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Southernfatman posted...

Getting screwed all the time is not fun.

Hell yeah it is
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What the point put easy difficult when you can still miss shoot
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I liked XCOM, but mostly because it allowed me to play defensively and turtle my way to victory. I read that the second one puts a lot more pressure on

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VTBM posted...

Even 100% misses

I've lost my highest ranked Assault before due to shotguns missing at point blank. XCOM just sometimes decides that it's time for you to get screwed.

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aki_sora posted...

What the point put easy difficult when you can still miss shoot

Watch ChristopherOdd's older XCOM let's play videos (before he did all the modding). I learned so much from that guy.

Total Biscuit is another popular one, but I thought he played kind of loose and aggressive.

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eston posted...

I liked XCOM, but mostly because it allowed me to play defensively and turtle my way to victory. I read that the second one puts a lot more pressure on

Yeah they put timers into almost every mission. Of course there are mods to lengthen or remove them.

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fuck timers let me turtle damn it

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yeah i agree if you have trouble with xcom that you need to watch others play it for a bit to get a sense of tactical strategies.

notice how they advance and cover. i feel this is crucial to gameplay because youll be repeating missions over & over until you get it right. watching others play gives you the luxury of watching them from the sidelines. you have chances to observe and learn the layout of the map to better prepare you for your own run.


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That's X-COM baby!
It makes me so damned angry, but I still love it. You're just doing a mission and realize everything's going well and that's when you realize that other shoe is going to drop. You're going to lose people, you're going to get wildly unlucky, you're probably going to fail missions f***** Newfoundland man. How do you win that the first time!? The challenge is to survive and overcome.

eston posted...

I liked XCOM, but mostly because it allowed me to play defensively and turtle my way to victory. I read that the second one puts a lot more pressure on

Yeah, more time limits in the second game so you cant just overwatch cheese everything

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thronedfire2 posted...

Yeah, more time limits in the second game so you cant just overwatch cheese everything

Agreed.

Lots of missions end in a certain amount of turns. However, if that really is a problem for you, you can double those timers before you start a new game. But it really isn't all that bad, since those missions almost always offer ways to increase the timer.

And if you play War of the Chosen (which is fan fucking tastic if I might add), you'll be fighting against a Doomsday clock as well, but again, lots of ways to slow down that progress.

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Southernfatman posted...

Never could get into XCom. Getting screwed all the time is not fun.

If you're getting screwed, 90% of the time it's probably your fault. RNG is a factor in the game for sure, but that's why you work around it. Every turn your goal should be to make all the moves you can to minimize the impact the RNG has. That's why tools like explosives are so valuable, because they're usually guaranteed damage. You don't play the game by running your soldier up to a piece of cover and firing. You're supposed to put some thought into your engagements. When you engage the enemy, what attack you open up with, and the positions your soldiers are in when you activate a pod are all very important. If you do those right, most of the time things will go smoothly.

Also, both modern XCOM games become significantly easier midway through the game when your soldiers start gaining incredibly powerful abilities. Yes, even if you play damn near perfectly you can't eliminate the RNG entirely. There's still always the chance your soldier misses a 99% shot. But oddly that potential for a screw-up like that can make things really exciting sometimes.


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VTBM posted...

Even 100% misses

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ar3NwhcCms

That's so frustrating to watch.

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unknownhombre posted...

That's so frustrating to watch.

it will continue to be frustrating till you give up nuff said.
we given up on game. fucking hate speed runs and time trials (gotta have serious skill to get the lowest times).
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inloveanddeath0 posted...

Ain't that the fucking truth

Does the Aliens have "SuperSpeed" dodge in place like "The Flash"?

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Hexenherz posted...

Legend has it there was a glitch and all of the difficulty modes were "Easy", and people complained and so for the sequel even "easy" was painful. I thought "Easy" was painful to begin with in classic though -_-.

"X-Com: Terror from the Deep" was always my favorite iteration of the original trilogy.

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is there a game like XCOM but without the time limit

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Rika_Furude posted...

Due to buildings collapsing from explosions

I always played "X-Com: Terror from the Deep" as a primarily Heavy Demolitions team with everybody packing heavy fire power / Explosives when possible.

Half the time, the randomly generated battle field was just a series of craters and that's the way I liked solving things =D.

Open a random door, see an alien nearly face to face, drop Heavy Explosives at their feet, close door, run away as far as remaining points allows me.

It always seems to do the trick.

Funny how the buildings core skeleton/structure was invincible, but the panels were very destroyable.

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GeneralKenobi85 posted...

If you're getting screwed, 90% of the time it's probably your fault. RNG is a factor in the game for sure, but that's why you work around it. Every turn your goal should be to make all the moves you can to minimize the impact the RNG has. That's why tools like explosives are so valuable, because they're usually guaranteed damage. You don't play the game by running your soldier up to a piece of cover and firing. You're supposed to put some thought into your engagements. When you engage the enemy, what attack you open up with, and the positions your soldiers are in when you activate a pod are all very important. If you do those right, most of the time things will go smoothly.

Also, both modern XCOM games become significantly easier midway through the game when your soldiers start gaining incredibly powerful abilities. Yes, even if you play damn near perfectly you can't eliminate the RNG entirely. There's still always the chance your soldier misses a 99% shot. But oddly that potential for a screw-up like that can make things really exciting sometimes.

I did try to play as smart and careful as possible, but it seemed every time I was actually doing decent or especially good the game would just throw curve balls and screw me with screwy RNG shits and aliens spawning behind me a lot. There's challenge and then there's just the game messing with you and it was just not fun.

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KamenRiderBlade posted...

"X-Com: Terror from the Deep" was always my favorite iteration of the original trilogy.

That's the one with the cruise ships that have like a hundred tiny rooms that could each be hiding an alien?

SSJGrimReaper posted...

is there a game like XCOM but without the time limit

Mario + Rabbids. It's unironically a good, casual version of the XCOM format.

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SSJGrimReaper posted...

And that 65% isn't even accurate. It's more like 10%

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pegusus123456 posted...

That's the one with the cruise ships that have like a hundred tiny rooms that could each be hiding an alien?

Yup, there would always be that "Realistically laid out building" with hundreds of little rooms.

Fun when you have to search everything.

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