Current Events > Help me understand Georgia's recording law. I might have to go full Dawkins.

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I know it's one-party concent. I've been doing some reading on it here when I can.

But background: I'm not sure if you remember around Thanksgiving, I made a topic about how I pissed off some annoying co-workers by implying that I'm a Satanist.

Well it didn't seem to stop there. They've always been stupid people but they've been getting downright antagonistic towards me since then.
You know, just saying shit. Didn't really bug me initially. In fact, me ignoring them and laughing them off would just make them even more pissed. But lately, they've been getting more aggressive and making sure I hear it. Trying desperately to get me to retaliate and start going off on them(because they knew at one point in time I would). This job already have a ridiculously toxic work environment, the last thing I need right now are annoying fucks saying racist shit and calling me the r-word because I'm routinely blocking them out.

The management have a notoriously bad track record when it comes to dealing with stuff like this and has let heinous shit that people do slide in the past for reason. However, they do like me.
So I figured if I take this to them, I I'm going to at least nail them with proof via a recording, so I can shut this down asap.

Really need to get another job.
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Never go full Dawkins.

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Guy_Fieri posted...

Never go full Dawkins.

Maybe half-Dawkibd would be more accurate. Minus the 'banging my head on cop cars,' and 'throwing my Xbox at my grandmother' stuff.

SerperiorThanU posted...

Do you have a lawyer?

No, I don't.
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So this one-party concent law. I can only start if one person in the party consents--
So if they're talking about me and actively trying to get my attention in the process, wouldn't that make me part of the party?
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Kitt posted...

So this one-party concent law. I can only start if one person in the party consents--
So if they're talking about me and actively trying to get my attention in the process, wouldn't that make me part of the party?

Correct

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Alpha218 posted...

Correct

Awesome. At least I know what I'm going to do tomorrow now. I'll be sure to let my boss know about the legality of it all, implying that I capture what I need and present it to them.
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Document days, times, parties involved and what was said. Writing it down and submitting that is sufficient, you dont need to record.

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Just to note, it may be against company policy to recoed coworkers without permission, which could lead to termination. You would first need confirmation that HR was refusing to stop the harassment, then you could record the conversations as proof. If you brought it to HR, you can then use the recording as proof of Harassment. Since you've already documented HR as being inactive in helping you, if they still refused to help you or terminate you you could get a labor attorney and sue them for money.

Document as much as possible.

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KILBOTz posted...

Document days, times, parties involved and what was said. Writing it down and submitting that is sufficient, you dont need to record.

See that would be ideal, but they won't do shit.

I've had a previous incident earlier in the year involving some jackass that tried to steal my shit. And when I took my belonging back and confronted him about it, he made threats.
So I documented everything about the incident. Wrote down what he said, date, time, got HR involved, etc.

He admitted taking my thing but he claimed it was a "joke" and so they "suspended" him for two weeks, but they couldn't terminate him because there was no proof that he made the threats, even though others did witness it (and won'tt say anything) because these fucks here take up for each other. Did I mention he got paid for his time off? He also quit on the spot one day after arguing with a manager for something unrelated.

I've seen worse stuff happen to other people here though. Folks literally getting bullied out of this place by particular groups of people and the management not doing shit when they go to them.
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Sounds like a horrible work environment.

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LightHawKnight posted...

Sounds like a horrible work environment.

You don't even know. There was a girl who use to work here. She was a little strange and she clearly had some mental/personal issues. But she was a good worker.
There was a group of guys that would bully and harass her because she would tell them to get off their ass and help her. One of the things they would mess with her about was her age, which she was secretive about. They asked one of the supervisors for that information and started bugging her over that.

So, like, I thought this whole thing was dumb and went to the manager at the time about it and I advised the girl to talk to management too. Now get this, one of the supervisors told the guys who were messing with her what she said and they started going at her even harder.
It got so bad that she started drinking on the job and got wrote up for it. She eventually quit one day.

Now I'm pissed and I'm asking my supervisor how in the world they let that happen? I've told her multiple times what that girl was going through. But she would just keep going on about how the girl got caught drinking, and I'm explaing to her that A. This was going on before that. B. Yeah, she wasn't suppose to drink, but what do people do when they're stressed out? And C. How does her drinking somehow negate what these dudes were doing to her?

But I'm pretty sure this manager only ever understood half of the things I would tell her. English wasn't her first language.
She then went on to get promoted to a better job somewhere in California, which is some bullshit because she was awful at her job.
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Kitt posted...

Maybe half-Dawkibd would be more accurate. Minus the 'banging my head on cop cars,' and 'throwing my Xbox at my grandmother' stuff.

So like a quarter Dawkins
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ClunkerSlim posted...

What is Dawkins up to these days? Is he on his meds living a quiet life somewhere and contributing to his community?

Prison, I think

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Bump.

Yep. I start my shift in a few minutes. Got my recorder ready to use for throughout the day. This is going to be interesting.
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Kitt posted...

Bump.

Yep. I start my shift in a few minutes. Got my recorder ready to use for throughout the day. This is going to be interesting.

@Kitt How'd it go, dude?

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coolpal23 posted...

@Kitt How'd it go, dude?

Didn't get anything interesting yet. A supervisor was there all day (miraculously) so they were being as obnoxious. But they'll slip up.
On better news, I found out that I have a little over a week of vacation time. So I'm going to figure out how to use that.
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The way one-party consent works is you actually have to be a part of the conversation. You can't just put a surveillance recorder out there and check on it every few days to see if there's any racist shit.

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Tyranthraxus posted...

The way one-party consent works is you actually have to be a part of the conversation. You can't just put a surveillance recorder out there and check on it every few days to see if there's any racist shit.

I'm not "putting it out there". I'm putting it on me (in my pocket) and waiting for someone to talk shit to me directly, making me part of the conversation.

Also, it's a great way to test out a new voice recorder I recently brought. Thing picks up everything.
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I recommend you speak to a real attorney.

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Tyranthraxus posted...

I recommend you speak to a real attorney.

Maybe. I'm off today.
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Can you record, transcript everything, and then delete the recording? You can say that you transcribed everything from memory.
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ClunkerSlim posted...

What is Dawkins up to these days? Is he on his meds living a quiet life somewhere and contributing to his community?

Locked up. Got into a fight while in prison recently because someone changed the channel on the television he and several inmates were watching. You remember how he got a new girlfriend. She left him too.

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ClunkerSlim posted...

@IslamMD You should start a "where is he now" topic for Dawkins.

@ClunkerSlim His situation isn't going to change anytime soon. I heard he going to be locked up another 5 years. And there won't be anymore videos. He had a domestic abuse case and later broke up with GF. Who was the last link between him and his youtube channel while he behind bars. Apparently she found out he was having sex with dudes in jail. Confronted him and he hit her.

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IslamMD posted...

Confronted him and he hit her.

i can forgive everything else but hitting a woman for any reason is unforgivable.
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Legally you're safe, but understand that many jobs do not like employees recording and that can backfire on you easy.

kingdrake2 posted...

i can forgive everything else but hitting a woman for any reason is unforgivable.

That's just... No.

in that one battle on that porch that day. dawkins would've won if that guy didn't superman him to the ground and pounded him.
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IslamMD posted...

Apparently she found out he was having sex with dudes in jail.

._.
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