Board 8 > UK election topic

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The containment topic is just going to be rammed with impeachment posts so let's do this here.

Polls everywhere from hung parliament to comfortable Tory majority, saying small majority most likely but could be anything. Exit polls in less than 10 minutes.

The parties:

Conservative: Centre Right, single issue campaign on passing their brexit deal.
Labour: Centre Left, want renationalisation of key industries, undoing austerity, free broadband and tuition; four day week, massive green investment. Want a new brexit referendum with their deal vs. remain.
Liberal Democrats: Centre, pro-European focusing on cancelling brexit all together if in a majority or through a referendum otherwise and decriminalising drugs as well as funding public services through a 1% tax rise for all.
SNP: Scottish nationalists, pro-European and want to remain via referendum. Like Labour but want Scottish independence.
Plaid Cymru: Similar, but Welsh.
Greens: Environmentalists, want to remain via referendum.
Brexit party: Single issue leave party.

Will update with the Northern Irish parties as they become relevant.

I for one am extremely anxious.

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live results link would be nice

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oh it's already done yikes

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*looks at exit polls*

welp

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the UK had a good run

I mean, it had A run I guess

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Exit poll out:

CON 368
LAB 191
LIB DEM 13
SNP 55
GREEN 1
BXP 0
OTHER 22

Crap. Screw this. Could change a lot but we are doomed.

Here's Sky's election broadcast: https://youtu.be/9Auq9mYxFEE

Live results will follow.

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So any UK peeps want to join my calls for violent revolution?
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following the live results at this point just sounds like a good way to crush your soul

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Corbyn is done.


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I hope Labour doesn't take this as a call to go to the centre after 2017. But it can't be a Corbyn disciple either.

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Lightning Strikes posted...

I hope Labour doesn't take this as a call to go to the centre after 2017. But it can't be a Corbyn disciple either.

what's the third option?

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England gets what it deserves with those voters.

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Lightning Strikes posted...

I hope Labour doesn't take this as a call to go to the centre after 2017. But it can't be a Corbyn disciple either.

Is Corbyn's platform specifically unpopular or just the man himself?

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I haven't followed at all. Was there a big victory for the right and Brexit?

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Steiner posted...

what's the third option?

Keir Starmer probably. Left but not a Corbynista, remainer, charismatic.

HeroDelTiempo17 posted...

Is Corbyn's platform specifically unpopular or just the man himself?

The man himself. His policies poll VERY well which is infuriating.

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I hope you enjoy the horrible mess you have brought upon yourself, UK.

Anagram posted...

I haven't followed at all. Was there a big victory for the right and Brexit?

Brexit but not really the right. Tories promised a lot of spending to win over left-leaning brexiters.

Want to know something hilarious? It looks like Labour will gain The City, which has been Tory forever. Bankers prefer socialism to brexit.

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Steiner posted...

what's the third option?

Corbyn himself
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Can someone explain what is going on in this topic in layman terms.

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htaeD posted...

England gets what it deserves with those voters.

Evil clown man party get more votes
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Corrik7 posted...

Can someone explain what is going on in this topic in layman terms.

corbyn, the guy heavily pushed as a commie, lost 50+ seats.
boris, the current PM, gained 70+.
brexit is happening.
pound is up to its 18 month high.


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Lightning Strikes posted...

HeroDelTiempo17 posted...
Is Corbyn's platform specifically unpopular or just the man himself?

The man himself. His policies poll VERY well which is infuriating.

but anyone with his policies would suffer the same orchestrated smear campaign from murdoch and pals and befall the same fate

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Wanglicious posted...

corbyn, the guy heavily pushed as a commie, lost 50+ seats.
boris, the current PM, gained 70+.
brexit is happening.
pound is up to its 18 month high.

Then why can't it ever pass it's brexit when they try. It's been trying for like 2 years now.

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Corrik7 posted...

Then why can't it ever pass it's brexit when they try. It's been trying for like 2 years now.

Because they passed Brexit without a plan to actually implement it and now are realizing all their options are shit but they are going to do it anyway.

Friend of mine said a kidney transplant will cost her 400k now if they continue moving away from NHS.

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If they actually follow through now, odds Scotland and Ireland push for independence?

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when Theresa May took over she tried to make a deal, it didn't work, people kept voting it down, she kept making more extensions. when she resigned and Boris took over the position he promised no more extensions but was legally forced to do so, at which point he called for another election.

assuming things hold up there should be no more extensions, the opposition party (labour) has completely collapsed to their worst level in almost a century. conservatives hold an overwhelming majority now. either the UK is going to go with a deal with the EU - probably a tweaked up version of the current one, which is a tweaked version of May's - or they're just gonna fuck off and leave without any agreements. but there should be no chance of a third option, this was essentially 1) the populace reaffirming the brexit vote and 2) a sign that people really, really want Corbyn out.

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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

If they actually follow through now, odds Scotland and Ireland push for independence?

SNP actually got a decent number of seats, they're pro EU and Scotland's pro independence party.

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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

If they actually follow through now, odds Scotland and Ireland push for independence?

100%. But they won't get it because Boris is the worst kind of overprivileged scum, and doesn't give a shit what anyone who didn't go to Eton wants.

His hobby at school was literally comitting vandalism and being too posh to be punished. Everyone in the Bullingdon club should be in prison (and would be if they weren't rich and white), instead they're running the country into the ground.

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Who is corbyn?

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Corrik7 posted...

Who is corbyn?

As of today? Nobody.

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It seems more a sign that young people still dont take their right to vote serious enough, as old people drive the county towards the cliff

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TheRock1525 posted...

Friend of mine said a kidney transplant will cost her 400k now if they continue moving away from NHS.

This will never happen.

It means the quality will get a lot worse though, with longer waiting times and fewer doctors.

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Corrik7 posted...

Who is corbyn?

technically still is the leader of the labour party.
won't be before the night is over. he basically led his party's collapse.

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Lightning Strikes posted...

This will never happen.

It means the quality will get a lot worse though, with longer waiting times and fewer doctors.

I mean the quality has already degraded where she almost died the last time she was in a hospital.

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He also reformed it and led it to its best result in a long time. He only didn't become PM in 2017 because the SNP collapsed. But he stayed too long. Sadly people matter more than policies.

On the topic of independence, Scotland will get it with that SNP result. Northern Ireland could be tricky, let's see how the results there go. The DUP (unionists) really mucked up backing brexit and supporting the Tories.

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TheRock1525 posted...

I mean the quality has already degraded where she almost died the last time she was in a hospital.

Yep austerity is a disaster and has killed a lot of people. Abhorrent.

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Can Scotland even hold another vote for independence after the previous one failed only a few years ago?

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Cool

I don't recognize my country anymore and as a liberal, left-wing snowflake teacher there is quite clearly no place for me there anyway, so I'm done with it

Steiner posted...

anyone with his policies would suffer the same orchestrated smear campaign from murdoch and pals and befall the same fate

Absolutely key, btw


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https://www.bbc.com/news/uk

Live results for sadists. Currently Lab 2 Con 1 but one of those Con seats is gaining Blyth Valley, a former strong Labour seat.

Anagram posted...

Can Scotland even hold another vote for independence after the previous one failed only a few years ago?

Yes. The debate is if it needs to go through Westminster. But with this result the SNP have a massive mandate, and they will repeat that in the Scottish Parliament elections in 17 months' time. Boris says he will not but that can't last long.

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Speaking of Darth Murdoch, Boris snuck in a last minute pledge to destroy the BBC, so we're one step closer to the Tories' Australian puppetmaster finally getting his heart's* desire of being the sole source of 'news' in the country. Also, it means Doctor Who is basically over.

*Well, the gaping void of eternal darkness where his heart should be

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To be specific he was talkinv aboyt scrapping the TV licence where they get most of their funds. That would be devastating.

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Labour just gained Putney. They list Workington and Darlington but gained a remsiny southern seat. Mad.

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Corbyn could be PM now if he had pushed for Leave and made that the official Labour position while David Cameron was pushing Remain. As in the US, the conservatives took the opportunity first.

Congratulations to the British people for finally leaving the EU. To the Tories, I hope you so the right thing and grant Scotland a 2nd referendum on secession.

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And in case Spain or someone tries to veto Scotland's EU accession, I still say the best way is to have England secede from the UK and Northern Ireland rejoin Ireland. Then the rump UK, now consisting of Scotland only, revokes Article 50 and remains in the UK. Everyone wins.

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If Labour fully backed leave they would get destroyed in the cities. Full remain and what we see gets worse. They were screwed. They never should have backed the election, they should have just gotten a referendum through the commons without.

Anyway, let's talk Northern Ireland. The main parties are the extreme unionist DUP (10 seats last time), extreme nationalist and abstentionist Sinn Fin (7 seats last time), both eurosceptic (though SF backed remain due to border issues), moderate unionist and brexit-neutral UUP (1 independent seat last time, who stood down which looked like it would mean the seat would go DUP), moderate nationalist SDLP (0 seats last time) and neutral Alliance (0 seats last time) both of whom are pro-EU. Alliance unexpectedly gained the former UUP/independent seat North Down instead of the DUP and it looks like SDLP have beaten the DUP in Belfast South. So it looks like the pro-EU moderates are back in Northern Ireland, and the nationalists may end up stronger than the unionists for the first time.

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Lightning Strikes posted...

Labour just gained Putney. They list Workington and Darlington but gained a remsiny southern seat. Mad.

I am confused of who you are rooting for.

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Jeremy Corbyn speaking. Essentially blaming the loss on Brexit rather than core Labour policies. Good for him for basically recognizing that the remain stance the party took was the problem.

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Everyone in this topic who knows what they're talking about is rooting for Labour.

There are some americans rooting for the Tories.

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