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Amenadeel 12/09/19 8:38:56 AM #1: |
And how are they winning?
how doesn't the water nation immediately defeat them and snuff them out? Water puts out fire. I'm so confused over how the other nations are losing. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doom_Art 12/09/19 8:40:06 AM #2: |
Keep watching the show. It gets fleshed out
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Sphyx 12/09/19 8:43:30 AM #3: |
Amenadeel posted...
Water puts out fire.But that all changed when the Fire Nation attacked. --- You're so vain, You probably think this sig is about you. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Slayerblade11 12/09/19 8:46:04 AM #4: |
Amenadeel posted...
And how are they winning? Better tech mainly. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Verdekal 12/09/19 8:50:54 AM #5: |
They mimick Japan in WWII. A small country invades a bigger country like the Earth Kingdom (or China).
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MrMallard 12/09/19 8:54:50 AM #6: |
Because they committed genocide, and have the military might to subjugate the rest of the world.
The Water Tribes have technique and a type advantage, and the Earth Kingdom have strength and numbers. But the Fire Nation has fucking tanks, catapults and a thirst for blood. Through sheer aggression and military might, and the willingness to commit mass murder if push comes to shove, the Fire Nation has come out on top. --- And I am done with my graceless heart, so tonight I'm gonna cut it out and then restart Now Playing: Yakuza 5, Final Fantasy X-2, Minecraft ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EvenSpoonier 12/09/19 8:56:30 AM #7: |
Amenadeel posted...
And how are they winning?They're winning because there is no war in Ba Sing Se. You will understand. --- "Playing a game for its graphics is like watching pornography for the story." - Kadiroth ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Azardea 12/09/19 9:05:51 AM #8: |
Water doesn't have a huge advantage (if any at all) against fire. Fire's pretty OP.
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masterpug53 12/09/19 9:09:22 AM #9: |
Pokemon typing doesn't exactly translate to the Avatarverse.
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Sackgurl 12/09/19 10:10:50 AM #11: |
mainly technological advancement, it mirrors japanese regional dominance in the meiji-WWII era, but also their attack was enhanced by
but also the water tribes are smaller than the fire nation, and isolated at the poles- it was only their genocidal attack against the air nomads that was truly successful, and that was planned to coincide directly with --- LittleBigPlanet is like merging dress-up with a real game. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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averagejoel 12/09/19 10:45:40 AM #12: |
the elements in Avatar don't really work rock-paper-scissors style like that
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Jeff AKA Snoopy 12/09/19 12:06:07 PM #13: |
averagejoel posted...
the elements in Avatar don't really work rock-paper-scissors style like that Yeah it is more about individual ability when 1 v 1, and the Fire Nation is very well coordinated for War, as they were the ones who organized and attacked first. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Amenadeel 12/10/19 11:04:44 PM #14: |
Still 10+ episodes to go. I can't wait to find out more about the Fire nation and how they're winning. Them imprisoning a bunch of earth benders just seems ridiculous, fire cannot burn rock! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Phantom_Nook 12/10/19 11:10:45 PM #15: |
The Fire Nation prepared for their first strike for a long time. also Aang locking himself in a ball of ice was a bad move.
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stoltenberg11 12/10/19 11:17:22 PM #16: |
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The Fire Nation has a trump card that you learn about much later that helped them turn the tide and start their invasions.Wait, isn't the trump card mentioned almost immediately, or are you talking about a different one? --- You're such a boring characterless entity. Try getting laid once in a while and maybe you'll have friends and find out what a "joke" is. - derrate ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pegusus123456 12/10/19 11:24:51 PM #17: |
First off, the Air Nomads and the Water Tribes are fairly small nations. And then the Water Tribe compounds that issue by splitting itself into two. So the only real challenge they would have is the Earth Kingdom which is shown to be a bit of a slog for the Fire Nation.
It's also not a country of benders vs a country of benders. The Fire Nation's army has benders, sure, but it also just has a shitload of soldiers. I'm not sure how much it's shown in season one, but it's also made clear pretty quickly that it has a technological advantage because fire benders can smelt metal more easily and are capable of creating things like steam engines. There are other, spoilerish reasons why the Earth Kingdom isn't retaliating fully, but I won't go into those. The biggest thing, though, is that elements just don't work that way in Avatar. A water bender doesn't automatically defeat a fire bender. The bending is almost more of an extension of martial arts than anything else, so the better bender isn't the one with the type advantage, it's the one with more skill. --- https://imgur.com/Er6TT https://imgur.com/Er6TT https://imgur.com/Er6TT So? I deeded to some gay porn. It doesn't mean anything. - Patty_Fleur ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Amenadeel 12/12/19 11:51:04 PM #18: |
That dude with the burned eye is the bad guy, I don't know why I get flashes of sympathy when they shift to his story. Can't help myself. He's bad but him and his uncle actually have a... good relationship?
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Phantom_Nook 12/13/19 1:08:16 AM #19: |
Amenadeel posted...
That dude with the burned eye is the bad guy, I don't know why I get flashes of sympathy when they shift to his story. Can't help myself. He's bad but him and his uncle actually have a... good relationship? *says nothing* --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PBusted 12/13/19 1:13:12 AM #20: |
To be fair, enough heat can evaporate water.
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Sackgurl 12/13/19 10:08:21 AM #21: |
Amenadeel posted...
That dude with the burned eye is the bad guy, I don't know why I get flashes of sympathy when they shift to his story. Can't help myself. He's bad but him and his uncle actually have a... good relationship? https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SympathyForTheDevil --- LittleBigPlanet is like merging dress-up with a real game. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Squall28 12/13/19 10:11:41 AM #22: |
People take typing way too seriously because of Pokemon. Let's put it this way. Would you want to fight someone who has a flamethrower with a supersoaker?
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ChrisTaka 12/13/19 10:17:25 AM #24: |
Everybody stumbling because of the fire nation yet no one batting an eye to the earth kingdom controlling more than half of the fucking world
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JE19426 12/13/19 10:24:36 AM #25: |
ChrisTaka posted...
Everybody stumbling because of the fire nation yet no one batting an eye to the earth kingdom controlling more than half of the fucking world The Earth Kingdom didn't force control over the areas they owned. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jeff AKA Snoopy 12/13/19 3:03:47 PM #26: |
I think they go into depth with the whole earth kingdom in the comics.
Mostly as a large landmass they naturally kinda came together, though the capital did not push too hard to keep them all in line. It was a loose association. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zack_Attackv1 12/13/19 3:09:31 PM #27: |
I dunno.
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sLaCkEr408___RJ 12/13/19 3:11:53 PM #28: |
Something I didn't like about the show
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Infost 12/13/19 3:26:27 PM #29: |
Amenadeel posted...
In addition to above factors, most waterbenders need a water source to bend, while any random firebender and can just poof fire out of nowhere. Earthbenders and airbenders technically have the same limitation, but it's almost never a problem because earth is just about everywhere outside on land, and if you're alive that means you have available air lol. --- Filler sig. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jeff AKA Snoopy 12/13/19 6:00:40 PM #30: |
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Something I didn't like about the show Remember that --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Amenadeel 12/13/19 11:42:49 PM #31: |
Posts ITT are making me think this show is deceptively smart and more amazing than previously thought.
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Amenadeel 12/13/19 11:52:37 PM #32: |
Also omg. The previous Avatar was
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Jeff AKA Snoopy 12/13/19 11:53:25 PM #33: |
Amenadeel posted...
Also omg. The previous Avatar was Keep watching. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Amenadeel 12/14/19 12:13:33 AM #34: |
Oh wait never mind. Turns out it was
That origin story is very... vandal savage like. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jeff AKA Snoopy 12/14/19 12:17:09 AM #35: |
Amenadeel posted...
Oh wait never mind. Turns out it was It is established that --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Amenadeel 12/14/19 12:42:33 AM #36: |
Zuko (is that the name?) actually put off hunting the avatar to rescue his uncle from the earth benders...
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Phantom_Nook 12/14/19 2:25:41 AM #37: |
Amenadeel posted...
Zuko (is that the name?) actually put off hunting the avatar to rescue his uncle from the earth benders... Zuko is pretty cool. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PlsGodDontBanMe 12/14/19 4:22:32 AM #38: |
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spikethedevil 12/14/19 4:36:03 AM #39: |
Did you really ask why the country forcibly invading other nations to build an empire are the bad guys? Also stop thinking of it like Pokemon typing also most of the army arent benders they just have superior technology.
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Amenadeel 12/15/19 11:56:22 PM #40: |
Ok yeah. This show just went from watchable, to bingeable.
They met jet. For a show of this caliber to actually deal with the morally grey, to show that becoming as bad as the people you're fighting isn't the way, to actually bring up these difficult choices, it's truly amazing. A lot of mature themes, difficult themes. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MrNintendo1213 12/16/19 12:01:57 AM #41: |
Amenadeel posted...
Ok yeah. This show just went from watchable, to bingeable. Yeah it is pretty crazy that it's from Nickelodeon of all places. --- Dot Dot Dot... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tenlaar 12/16/19 12:14:40 AM #42: |
Well now I want to watch Avatar again. I think one of the biggest things to keep in mind as to the Fire Nation dominance is that the fire benders are the only ones really capable of using their bending to power war machines, so even mediocre fire benders in the military kind of get a force multiplier that the other types don't.
I'd still be an earth bender, though. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Gobstoppers12 12/16/19 12:15:20 AM #43: |
It's an amazing show with a strong commitment to continuity and character development. It's a real journey with tons of incredible stuff involved.
Legend of Korra is pretty damn good, too, though it's not quite as great and has some weaknesses that the original didn't have. --- I write Naruto Fanfiction. But I am definitely not a furry. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Phantom_Nook 12/16/19 1:09:04 AM #44: |
Amenadeel posted...
Ok yeah. This show just went from watchable, to bingeable. Damn, and you haven't even gotten to the episode that got me hooked yet. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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De Evolution 12/16/19 1:15:40 AM #45: |
Amenadeel posted...
Ok yeah. This show just went from watchable, to bingeable. Lol you're barely getting started. It only gets better from here. It's without exaggerating one of the greatest shows ever made. --- Let go your earthly tether. Enter the void. Empty, and become wind. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Gobstoppers12 12/16/19 1:31:31 AM #46: |
De Evolution posted...
Legit. From writing, to animation, to voice acting, to pacing, to world building, it's a monumental achievement. It's one of the only American cartoons that consistently gets mistaken for an anime due to the care and consistency of its development. --- I write Naruto Fanfiction. But I am definitely not a furry. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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stoltenberg11 12/16/19 5:35:03 PM #47: |
Amenadeel posted...
Ok yeah. This show just went from watchable, to bingeable.The best mature themes/morally grey episode blows that one out of the water --- You're such a boring characterless entity. Try getting laid once in a while and maybe you'll have friends and find out what a "joke" is. - derrate ... Copied to Clipboard!
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corneliusmagus 12/16/19 5:58:10 PM #48: |
They really should have gone with a better and less problematic word than bender. I don't think I could watch it because of that. At least in Futurama it's a comedy and the character Bender is meant to be offensive.
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Gobstoppers12 12/16/19 6:21:09 PM #49: |
corneliusmagus posted...
They really should have gone with a better and less problematic word than bender. I don't think I could watch it because of that. At least in Futurama it's a comedy and the character Bender is meant to be offensive..............? what --- I write Naruto Fanfiction. But I am definitely not a furry. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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corneliusmagus 12/16/19 6:24:37 PM #50: |
Gobstoppers12 posted...
.............?Bender is a slur against gay people. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Gobstoppers12 12/16/19 6:27:20 PM #51: |
corneliusmagus posted...
Bender is a slur against gay people.Maybe in England or something. In America, a "bender" is a drinking spree, which is what the Futurama character is a reference to. Also, bender can refer to a character in the Avatar franchise with the ability to manipulate one of the elements by 'bending' it. --- I write Naruto Fanfiction. But I am definitely not a furry. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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