Poll of the Day > How Fascist are you? (Test inside)

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28%. Not surprised. So many people just call others fascist for the sake of doing so that it's lost a lot of impact.

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26%. I knew you all were more fascist than me.

DDirtyDastard posted...

26%. I knew you all were more fascist than me.

Ahem

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So I'm PotDs Offical fascist?

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44%

WhiskeyDisk posted...

Political Compass definitely does have a strong Left bias though. It shows when you pick the "more stances" option because it ends up reading something like this:

Q: Are babies edible?

1. Yes, babies can provide a source of nourishment in a well-balanced diet.
2. Yes, and we should eat all babies. Women should be forced to have babies so we can all eat more of them. An all-baby diet will make strong alpha males to protect our baby-eating way of life which is superior to all other systems.
3. No. They're poisonous.
4. No, children are our future but we shouldn't have any without weighing the possible environmental and social justice consequences of procreation.
5. No, and we shouldn't eat animals either. We should only begrudgingly eat plants, engineer plants to consent to being eaten, and you're literally Hitler if you live indoors and don't pocket mulch.

The aggregate of responses after 50 questions leads to about 1 of 3 outcomes. Anarchist, libertarian/left libertarian, or fascist/authoritarian and the questions seem to group strongly on just a few hot button issues at any given time instead of a spectrum of issues since you'll basically see similar questions 2 or 3 times, just phrased differently.

At work when we have a parent with a disobedient child I'll sometimes offer to 'buy' the child off the parent to turn them into hamburger and grind the bones into baby powder but make sure to say that I can only legally do it if the child is being disobedient. 9/10 times the kid usually shuts up and pleads with their parent that they're a good kid; especially when I start sizing them up and giving discount prices for them. The parent usually figures it out right from the get-go. Only one kid ever called me out on the bluff until the parent started asking if they could get more than $20 off at which point they quieted down.

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Nobody understands what communism or socialism are... "No private ownership" doesn't mean literally everything is shared and there's zero ownership of things. The core of communism is that the means of production must not be privately held. So the factory belongs to the state or the workers of the factory, depending. Not some rich guy. There are lots of nuances (I.E: will the state be a dictatorship or a democracy?). Socialism is such a broad term. It includes extremes like the USSR all the way to stuff like a teachers' union, universal health care, or welfare.

The United States isn't a manufacturing nation.
The idea that workers "own the means of production" is absurd. "Some rich guy" does not own your office building, a company which is controlled by a board of directors owns it. People who make these outlandish claims seem to have never worked a day in their lives.

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The main problem with "seizing the means of production" so to speak in every instance we've seen thus far is that there seem to be only two possible outcomes.

A race to the bottom that results in absolut mediocrity, or rampant intellectual property theft from nations that actually strive to innovate.

We're not talking about fire departments and roads here. We're talking about technological innovation. True ideological/authoritarian communism isn't actually sustainable without a capitalist society to steal from. That alone should be a pretty stern rebuke of the system in practice.

Capitalists can incorporate some of the minor aspects of communist ideas, but it doesn't work out symmetrically for communists if capitalist systems disappeared overnight. There is no real incentive to innovate under pure communist systems.

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Judgmenl posted...

The United States isn't a manufacturing nation.
The idea that workers "own the means of production" is absurd. "Some rich guy" does not own your office building, a company which is controlled by a board of directors owns it. People who make these outlandish claims seem to have never worked a day in their lives.

"some rich guy" is a euphemism. regardless, you missed the entire point of what i was even saying anyway and fixated on a thing you thought you grasped and just went "butthurt free market American" when I wasn't even picking a side or pointing to anything in particular as good or bad. i was just trying to shine a light on misconceptions and how wide an umbrella term "socialism" is.

i'm not going to write a detailed essay for people that would just get mad because they don't understand.

42%. Huh.


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Raddest_Chad posted...

So the factory belongs to the state or the workers of the factory, depending. Not some rich guy.

the problem is here, where you've split the people into classes and decided that one class should forcibly have to give things up to another class.

with capitalism, (I guess), "workers" have the same opportunity as everyone else to become the next "some rich guy". the state doesn't just move in and even things out, rather people have to earn their way to it. (yes, it doesn't always work out that way, and yes, there's a spectrum here with evils on both sides.)

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Raddest_Chad posted...

i'm not going to write a detailed essay for people that would just get mad because they don't understand.

There's no need to argue. The arguments of socialists have long since bored me.

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i'm not going to write a detailed essay for people that would just get mad because they don't understand.

Clearly we wouldn't understand why the multitude of communist nations across history since it's conception have become tyrannical dictatorships with a massively powerful political class that actively oppresses its working class and results in economic problems, cultural collapse, and problems all-around for people who do not actively conform to party policy. Clearly you do understand how communism actually works and why nations like the U.S.S.R. and North Korea are not the 'end result' of communism.

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Unbridled9 posted...

massively powerful political class that actively oppresses its working class and results in economic problems, cultural collapse, and problems all-around for people who do not actively conform to party policy.

So exactly where the U.S. is heading.

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I dont silence oppositions views or forcibly regulate anything, so not at all.

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SunWuKung420 posted...

So exactly where the U.S. is heading.

The U.S. has its problems especially with the overpowering political class, media, and tech oligarchy, but it's still nowhere near as bad as communism and is unlikely to get so bad so long as the various rights and protections granted in its constitution and bill of rights are, well, protected. So long as you have the freedom to say what you desire then people can speak out against the government and revolt for example. Be wary of ANYTHING that chips away at said rights even a little bit.

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faramir77 posted...

There it is, a visual representation of cancer.

If you seriously agree with this, give your head a shake. Or better yet, read a book.

I had the same thought. That is one of the worst charts of political orientation I have ever seen. I think I've only seen one that was worse than that.

There are some pretty serious problems with this quiz. It doesn't break down your answers. Several of the questions are loaded with too many parts; a responder could agree with one line, but not with another, and therefore any answer given will not be accurate. Several other questions are too vague to give a decisive answer to. There are also some questions to which the answer could reasonably be "that is entirely dependent on the situation."

Doesn't help that the blurbs at the end are pretty garbage.

Edit: Forgot to mention that I got a # somewhere in the 20s, if anyone was wondering... can't remember the exact # though.

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I got 41%... looks like 41% of me is going to the reeducation camps

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joemodda posted...

I got 41%... looks like 41% of me is going to the reeducation camps

59%*
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You are 43% Fascist, which makes you a Fascist Fellow-Traveler.

Yeah that's about right.

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