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Anteaterking
12/08/19 11:26:13 AM
#51:


Vicious_Dios posted...
Why don't they just go to another judge? Why make her go against her beliefs?

Because judges, clerks, etc. are employed by the public. You don't shop around for a judge to marry you.

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gatorsPENSbucs
12/08/19 11:28:30 AM
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Forcing people to do stuff they dont want to do.....if only this country had an issue with it.

Blows my mind that people would purposely go to someone knowing that someone doesnt agree. But hey, lot of fucked up people in this world just cant let them bother you.

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jborgan
12/08/19 11:33:31 AM
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Vicious_Dios posted...
Why don't they just go to another judge? Why make her go against her beliefs?
Why can't she just do her job? Why not find another job if her beliefs are so important?

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ZannoL
12/08/19 11:37:38 AM
#54:


That woman = trash
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CreekCo
12/08/19 11:39:00 AM
#55:


Vicious_Dios posted...
Why don't they just go to another judge? Why make her go against her beliefs?

That would make too much sense. They dont actually want happiness they want to make a point.

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ZannoL
12/08/19 11:40:13 AM
#56:


Anteaterking posted...
Because judges, clerks, etc. are employed by the public. You don't shop around for a judge to marry you.
This.

It's not a difficult concept to comprehend.
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gatorsPENSbucs
12/08/19 11:42:44 AM
#57:


Anteaterking posted...
Because judges, clerks, etc. are employed by the public. You don't shop around for a judge to marry you.
You talking about getting the marriage license or actually getting married?

because we got a list of people that could marry us and we chose the one closest to us.

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bnui
12/08/19 11:59:47 AM
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"I'm sorry. I don't do that due to my religion. Here are many places you could go to instead, in a handy list"

"Heartless bitch, BURN!"
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ArchiePeck
12/08/19 12:00:55 PM
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If she can't perform the duties of her job then she should probably find another job instead.
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mybbqrules
12/08/19 12:44:03 PM
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This homophobe: "I deserve a religious exemption from performing same sex marriages".

Well, since religion is already exempt from paying federal taxes despite pumping millions into the republican party for shining pillars of christianity like Donald "I literally paid hush money to a pornstar I cheated on my wife with" Trump, I'd have to say we're fresh out of religious exemptions. Do your job or resign.

And I second the notion that her previous rulings need to be investigated.

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spikethedevil
12/08/19 12:49:09 PM
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bnui posted...
"I'm sorry. I don't do that due to my religion. Here are many places you could go to instead, in a handy list"

"Heartless bitch, BURN!"

Except she didnt give them any alternatives.

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Hexenherz
12/08/19 1:01:27 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7YW045deBY

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the_rowan
12/08/19 1:02:38 PM
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CreekCo posted...
Maybe youre struggling with reading comprehension. People can do whatever but the Bible isnt cool with it at all and never will be.

He's saying none of the actually anti-gay stuff mentioned marriage, only sex. The only mention of marriage was a universally pro-marriage statement that didn't necessarily omit gay couples, and that was from the New Testament. None of the Old Testament stuff is going to mention rules about marriage since marriage wasn't seen as a religious institution in those times; it's just going to talk about who and what you sleep with.

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Trigg3rH4ppy
12/08/19 1:02:58 PM
#64:


SauI_Goodman posted...
If it's against her religion it's against her religion. Can they not just go to another judge?
Shes a civil servant

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thrashmetal14
12/08/19 1:07:00 PM
#65:


SauI_Goodman posted...
If it's against her religion it's against her religion. Can they not just go to another judge?

That'd be fine if she was a priest. She's not.
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IShall_Run_Amok
12/08/19 1:21:11 PM
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All it takes is a little homophobia for people to shill for government employees not doing the job we pay them to do.

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bnui
12/08/19 1:34:06 PM
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spikethedevil posted...
Except she didnt give them any alternatives.
"Im sorry, but Judge Hensley has a sincerely held religious belief as a Christian, and will not be able to perform any same-sex weddings, with a list of referrals to local people who would do so.
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Dampproof
12/08/19 1:46:43 PM
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Wow a lot of people coming out of the woodwork for this.

If a judge is allowing their religious beliefs to override the duty they as a civil servant must preform then that person should be removed from office. The separate of State and Church is clear on this, and shows a serious bias in their decision making process which should call into question their ability to dispense justice.


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bnui
12/08/19 1:48:01 PM
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"My rights are worth more than your rights"
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Rika_Furude
12/08/19 2:32:24 PM
#71:


bnui posted...
"My rights are worth more than your rights"
She never had the right to refuse to do her job. She can quit if thats what she wants.

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IShall_Run_Amok
12/08/19 2:33:22 PM
#72:


bnui posted...
"My rights are worth more than your rights"

IShall_Run_Amok posted...
All it takes is a little homophobia for people to shill for government employees not doing the job we pay them to do.


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Sayoria
12/08/19 2:49:07 PM
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If she was a surgeon, would it be okay for her to turn away a gay person from life-saving surgery? She signed onto duties she is expected to uphold. Do your job or find another.

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bnui
12/08/19 3:56:26 PM
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I just dont get why it HAS TO BE HER

Can you give me a reason?

Just like that cake shop.

I can understand if these people were being rude or condescending but from what is being reported, they weren't
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ArchiePeck
12/08/19 4:05:27 PM
#75:


bnui posted...
I just dont get why it HAS TO BE HER

Can you give me a reason?

Just like that cake shop.

I can understand if these people were being rude or condescending but from what is being reported, they weren't

It doesn't HAVE to be her, but IF she is the one chosen then she definitely does HAVE to do it. She is a civil servant. That is her duty.

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Kastrada
12/08/19 4:12:46 PM
#76:


bnui posted...
I just dont get why it HAS TO BE HER

Can you give me a reason?

Just like that cake shop.

I can understand if these people were being rude or condescending but from what is being reported, they weren't

The cake shop has a right to refuse to serve whomever they want because they are private citizens running a private business.

The judge is not a private citizen within the context of her job. She is paid for by the US government to serve all US citizens. She can not refuse to perform her duties based on her personal beliefs, especially religious ones. Doing so violates the job contract she would have signed to become a judge in the first place.

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ThePieReborn
12/08/19 4:34:32 PM
#77:


bnui posted...
I just dont get why it HAS TO BE HER

Can you give me a reason?

Just like that cake shop.

I can understand if these people were being rude or condescending but from what is being reported, they weren't
It doesn't have to be her, but that's irrelevant. She is a state actor; she is bound by the Fourteenth Amendment. If she doesn't want to be so bound, then she can vacate the judgeship.

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bnui
12/08/19 5:46:42 PM
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I guess so. My views will always be different because I dont see it as a MASSIVE problem, but I can see how being denied your love is a horrible thing
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lil_GoodOlJr_69
12/08/19 5:50:52 PM
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-its not the governments business who can get married

-hey government official, perform our wedding or your lifes over
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Ruvan22
12/08/19 6:18:55 PM
#82:


bnui posted...
I guess so. My views will always be different because I dont see it as a MASSIVE problem, but I can see how being denied your love is a horrible thing

Would you be OK with her turning away an interracial couple and citing parts of the bible about tribes not mixing?
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ZannoL
12/08/19 6:37:53 PM
#83:


shockthemonkey posted...
Because its her job as a public official

You cant just skip part of your job because someone else will do it. That makes you a shitty employee who shouldnt be employed in that position. Being a shitty employee for bigoted reasons makes someone a shitty person to boot.

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K181
12/08/19 6:43:54 PM
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Still surprised how many anti-secularists are on CE apparently. This is civics 101.

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lil_GoodOlJr_69
12/08/19 6:56:24 PM
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K181 posted...
Still surprised how many anti-secularists are on CE apparently. This is civics 101.

Secularism isnt secularism though

Its just the precursor to sharia
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Rika_Furude
12/08/19 9:52:14 PM
#86:


bnui posted...
I just dont get why it HAS TO BE HER

Can you give me a reason?

Just like that cake shop.

I can understand if these people were being rude or condescending but from what is being reported, they weren't
The "cake shop" incident doesnt exactly help your argument hold water since that was also a shitty act committed by bigots and closing fown their business was the correct course of action

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YellowMustard69
12/08/19 9:57:04 PM
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Anyone else find it odd that if a business owner refuses service to a gay person for being gay they get sued for hundreds of thousands of dollars, but if a literal judge refuses to follow the law and do their job they just get a slap on the wrist?
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Rika_Furude
12/08/19 9:58:37 PM
#88:


YellowMustard69 posted...
Anyone else find it odd that if a business owner refuses service to a gay person for being gay they get sued for hundreds of thousands of dollars, but if a literal judge refuses to follow the law and do their job they just get a slap on the wrist?
It is odd. The judge should have been fired on the first offence

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hockeybub89
12/08/19 10:08:40 PM
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You don't get to have religious beliefs in your impartial job. Bitch can fucking quit.

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Guide
12/08/19 10:23:14 PM
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It takes some piss poor logic to think people should go to someone else. If doing her job is against her religion, she shouldn't have the job in the first place.

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jumi
12/09/19 12:11:57 AM
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Garioshi posted...
Expected actual spanking, thoroughly disappointed.


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UnfairRepresent
12/10/19 6:21:20 AM
#93:


Vicious_Dios posted...
Why don't they just go to another judge? Why make her go against her beliefs?

Because its her job dude.
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QuantumTheory
12/11/19 2:35:25 PM
#94:


CreekCo posted...
Maybe youre struggling with reading comprehension. People can do whatever but the Bible isnt cool with it at all and never will be.


Maybe its you who is struggling.

Nothing you posted forbids gay marriage.

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UnfairRepresent
12/12/19 4:22:27 AM
#95:


QuantumTheory posted...


Maybe its you who is struggling.

Nothing you posted forbids gay marriage.

wut

yes it does
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Son Of Spam
12/12/19 5:47:56 AM
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And it's not just the principal of the matter of this. If judges are allowed to pick and choose who they provide their services to, it can create an issue where a gay couple can't get married in a bigoted county because all of the local judges would just cite religious exemption.

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QuantumTheory
12/12/19 2:30:05 PM
#97:


UnfairRepresent posted...
wut

yes it does

Please quote just one verse from the bible that states its against Gods rules for two people of the same gender to marry each other.

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UnfairRepresent
12/13/19 5:01:29 PM
#98:


QuantumTheory posted...


Please quote just one verse from the bible that states its against Gods rules for two people of the same gender to marry each other.

I quoted like 7 earlier in the topic
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spikethedevil
12/13/19 5:38:10 PM
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TBF the Bible only mentions sex and not married.

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