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UnfairRepresent
12/06/19 2:15:41 PM
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Texas judge warned for refusal to perform gay marriages

McLellan County Justice of the Peace Dianne Hensley performs weddings, but only for straight couples.

Waco-based Justice of the Peace Dianne Hensleys refusal to perform gay weddings violates the 2015 U.S. Supreme Court decision in Obergefell v. Hodges, a Texas judicial agency has said in a public warning.

The warning from the Texas Commission on Judicial Misconduct states that Hensley has declined to perform gay weddings since at least 2016, while continuing to marry heterosexual couples, despite the landmark ruling that declared the right to a same-sex marriage is a constitutional right.

The warning also states that starting in August 2016, Hensleys staff would give all same-sex couples a paper that said Im sorry, but Judge Hensley has a sincerely held religious belief as a Christian, and will not be able to perform any same-sex weddings, with a list of referrals to local people who would do so.

The warning cites a 2017 interview in which Hensley told the Waco Tribune newspaperthat following the Supreme Court decision, she initially chose not to perform any marriages at all. But then, she had a change of heart.

My conscience was bothering me, because so many people were calling and wanting a wedding, Hensley said, referring specifically to heterosexuals.

She started to perform weddings again but only for straight couples. According to the newspaper, she married roughly 70 heterosexual couples between September 2015 and June 2017. She said she deserved a religious exemption from marrying gays as a bible-believing Christian.
Other justices of the peace at Wacos courthouse squared their personal religious beliefs with the law by declining to perform all weddings, whether they were for same-sex or opposite-sex couples.

The Texas Commission on Judicial Misconduct said Hensleys actions should be publicly warned for casting doubt on her capacity to act impartially to persons appearing before her as a judge due to the persons sexual orientation.

In a statement emailed to the Austin Statesman newspaper this week, Hensley wrote, I sought a solution so that anyone in McLennan County who wants to get married can get married. I have, do, and always will, follow the law.

Hensley has 30 days to appeal the sanction, which was issued Nov. 12. The Waco Tribune said the sanction has no practical effect on her role as an officeholder.



www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1095861
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SauI_Goodman
12/06/19 2:16:51 PM
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If it's against her religion it's against her religion. Can they not just go to another judge?
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Hanky_Bannister
12/06/19 2:16:52 PM
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she looks like a disgusting c-word
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spikethedevil
12/06/19 2:17:43 PM
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Good.

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spikethedevil
12/06/19 2:18:10 PM
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SauI_Goodman posted...
If it's against her religion it's against her religion. Can they not just go to another judge?

She is refusing to do her job.

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Garioshi
12/06/19 2:18:32 PM
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Expected actual spanking, thoroughly disappointed.

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Megaman50100
12/06/19 2:19:04 PM
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She should probably make the decision to quit if her job is against her religion.

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HylianFox
12/06/19 2:19:15 PM
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NBC OUTLaura Dern said she lost work, needed 'security detail' after 'Ellen' coming-out episode

you should probably delete links to other articles when copying

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Hanky_Bannister
12/06/19 2:19:57 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
She said she deserved a religious exemption from marrying gays as a bible-believing Christian.

snowflake xtians eh?
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DarkChozoGhost
12/06/19 2:20:44 PM
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Hopefully she'll be stripped of her title and position.

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UnfairRepresent
12/06/19 2:23:36 PM
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DarkChozoGhost posted...
Hopefully she'll be stripped

0_o
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UnfairRepresent
12/06/19 2:39:21 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
She shouldnt be allowed to be a judge if she refuses to perform the duties necessary.

ehhhhhh

I half agree. That seems a little authoritarian tho
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ThyCorndog
12/06/19 2:41:31 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
ehhhhhh

I half agree. That seems a little authoritarian tho
It's authoritarian to expect someone in a position carry out the duties assigned to them?

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The Great Muta 22
12/06/19 2:45:36 PM
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At minimum there should be an immediate investigation into her judicial past to see if her clear and admitted biases have influenced her rulings

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Villain
12/06/19 2:47:05 PM
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Her salary is paid for via the taxpayers so if she won't do her job to the fullest extent she needs to be let go.

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Hanky_Bannister
12/06/19 2:48:14 PM
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The Great Muta 22 posted...
At minimum there should be an immediate investigation into her judicial past to see if her clear and admitted biases have influenced her rulings

100%

she obviously has an unforgivable bias
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IShall_Run_Amok
12/06/19 2:57:16 PM
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SauI_Goodman posted...
If it's against her religion it's against her religion. Can they not just go to another judge?
Better still, fire her so a more competent person can be a judge. Perhaps a ten year old boy or a cardboard cutout of Anna May Wong.

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Villain
12/06/19 2:58:16 PM
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SauI_Goodman posted...
If it's against her religion it's against her religion. Can they not just go to another judge?
They shouldn't have to. As taxpayers they are literally entitled to the services the judge is supposed to perform.

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DeadBankerDream
12/06/19 3:04:33 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Other justices of the peace at Wacos courthouse squared their personal religious beliefs with the law by declining to perform all weddings, whether they were for same-sex or opposite-sex couples.

Does this mean they stop taking up assignments for marriage certification or are they literally refusing to do their job by not marrying people?

Honestly it seems like anyone who is a judge in Waco Texas should just get 20 years in prison with no parole.
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AlCalavicci
12/06/19 3:24:11 PM
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I am in support of this judge being stripped of their title and losing their job because they are refusing to fo their duties as the law allows.

there is supposed to be a separation between church and state and Im sick of hearing how blurry the stupid line has become

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UnfairRepresent
12/06/19 3:28:21 PM
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ThyCorndog posted...

It's authoritarian to expect someone in a position carry out the duties assigned to them?

Without recourse? Sure.

I mean it seems clear cut here because we all support gay marriage but what if they start assigning duties that are morally wrong or harmful?

I'm kinda uncomfortable with the only options being get fired or do it.

I mean that's what the Nazis did in the 30s, made their horrible shit into law, then fired any judge that opposed and replaced them with loyalists.

I mean what if they lowered the marriage age of consent to 11? Or made it law that French Americans can't get married? Do the judges have to accept it or be fired?

I dunno. I don't have the answers. I'm just nervous of black and white mentality.

I guess I'm saying I support the warning her over your idea of instant firing.

Hanky_Bannister posted...
The Great Muta 22 posted...

At minimum there should be an immediate investigation into her judicial past to see if her clear and admitted biases have influenced her rulings

100%

she obviously has an unforgivable bias


Yeah I agree with this
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Questionmarktarius
12/06/19 3:29:52 PM
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This is a pretty obvious "do your fucking job" situation here, give or take some "Conflict of Interest" weaseling.
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GiftedACIII
12/06/19 3:29:57 PM
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ThyCorndog posted...

It's authoritarian to expect someone in a position carry out the duties assigned to them?

Don't you know firing someone for not doing their job is fascist?
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Questionmarktarius
12/06/19 3:32:02 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
I mean what if they lowered the marriage age of consent to 11? Or made it law that French Americans can't get married? Do the judges have to accept it or be fired?
Well, yeah.

That's a matter for other judges to sort out, or at least a different court docket.
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K181
12/06/19 3:34:32 PM
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SauI_Goodman posted...
If it's against her religion it's against her religion. Can they not just go to another judge?

You're essentially making an argument against the separation of church and state. You cannot allow public figures to adhere to their religion over their constitutional requirements.

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PleaseClap
12/06/19 3:34:37 PM
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Imagine being so obsessed with arguing that you feel the need to compare gay marriage to nazism and pedophilia

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UnfairRepresent
12/06/19 3:36:51 PM
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PleaseClap posted...
Imagine being so obsessed with arguing that you feel the need to compare gay marriage to nazism and pedophilia

Who did that?
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Solid Sonic
12/06/19 3:37:23 PM
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Garioshi posted...
Expected actual spanking, thoroughly disappointed.


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UnfairRepresent
12/06/19 6:52:04 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...

lmao I love watching you pull shit out of your ass

Every time you know you are wrong you just insult people and run off, its an awful tell
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sktgamer_13dude
12/06/19 6:59:53 PM
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>person doesnt do their job
>UR still argues for them to have their job

jfc

as for the topic at hand, fuck this bitch. Do your job, separation of church and state is a thing, stop pushing your religion in a fucking state job.

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Lordgold666
12/06/19 7:00:29 PM
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Hanky_Bannister posted...
she looks like a disgusting c-word


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UnfairRepresent
12/06/19 7:08:04 PM
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sktgamer_13dude posted...
>person doesnt do their job
>UR still argues for them to have their job

Hey I'm not saying don't punish her.

Just that maybe a gray area between obey or die is a good thing to have in the long term. Checks and balances and all that.

I mean if someone told your mechanic to put a bomb in your car, should he do it or be fired? Or is there maybe a 3rd option where someone raises a query and if it's dumb they get spanked. If it's valid they get a nod.
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spikethedevil
12/07/19 5:38:37 AM
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Ok marrying a same sex couple and a bomb in a car is a pretty huge leap and a really shit analogy.

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Smashingpmkns
12/07/19 5:46:13 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...
>person doesnt do their job
>UR still argues for them to have their job

Hey I'm not saying don't punish her.

Just that maybe a gray area between obey or die is a good thing to have in the long term. Checks and balances and all that.

I mean if someone told your mechanic to put a bomb in your car, should he do it or be fired? Or is there maybe a 3rd option where someone raises a query and if it's dumb they get spanked. If it's valid they get a nod.


You're essentially saying marrying a gay couple is the slippery slope here.
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ReignFury
12/07/19 5:46:40 AM
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So christians protect and hide pedophiles but dont want to marry gays?

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SSJCAT
12/07/19 5:48:04 AM
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hey look i am such a devout christian because of this group of people i hate and my belief that they dont deserve equal rights

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UnfairRepresent
12/07/19 6:24:28 AM
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spikethedevil posted...
Ok marrying a same sex couple and a bomb in a car is a pretty huge leap and a really shit analogy.

I feel like you're intentionally missing my point here

Smashingpmkns posted...
You're essentially saying marrying a gay couple is the slippery slope here.

No, I'm saying instant firing and replacing of anyone who opposes authority is a slippery slope.

And literally posted historic examples of it.

I never said anything about stopping gay marriage. Im old enough that I was pro equal rights before it was cool
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Rika_Furude
12/07/19 6:42:15 AM
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SauI_Goodman posted...
If it's against her religion it's against her religion. Can they not just go to another judge?
this is the stupidest thing ive read tonight

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UnfairRepresent
12/07/19 6:53:24 AM
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ReignFury posted...
So christians protect and hide pedophiles but dont want to marry gays?

pretty much yeah
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QuantumTheory
12/07/19 9:54:32 AM
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Unless the bible forbids same-sex marriage I fail to see her issue.

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UnfairRepresent
12/07/19 10:40:04 AM
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QuantumTheory posted...
Unless the bible forbids same-sex marriage I fail to see her issue.


If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act.
Leviticus 20:13

[Men] shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination.
- Leviticus 18:22

If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act.
- Leviticus 20:13

For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error.
- Romans 1:26-27,

Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife for any reason at all?
Jesus answered, Have you not read that He who created them from the beginning made them male and female, and said, For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh? So they are no longer two, but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let no man separate
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Matthew 19. v3-6

There are more too but it's the same point and would be gilding the lilly.

The bible is VERY clear on it's opposition towards homosexuals, old and new testament.

People who say otherwise are liars.
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Rika_Furude
12/07/19 11:59:34 PM
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QuantumTheory posted...
Unless the bible forbids same-sex marriage I fail to see her issue.
even if it did theres literally no issue other than a bigoted judge refusing to do the job shes paid for

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QuantumTheory
12/08/19 10:45:02 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act.
Leviticus 20:13

[Men] shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination.
- Leviticus 18:22

If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act.
- Leviticus 20:13

For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error.
- Romans 1:26-27,

Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife for any reason at all?
Jesus answered, Have you not read that He who created them from the beginning made them male and female, and said, For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh? So they are no longer two, but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let no man separate
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Matthew 19. v3-6

There are more too but it's the same point and would be gilding the lilly.

The bible is VERY clear on it's opposition towards homosexuals, old and new testament.

People who say otherwise are liars.

Nothing you quoted states gay marriage is forbidden.

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CreekCo
12/08/19 11:15:31 AM
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QuantumTheory posted...
Nothing you quoted states gay marriage is forbidden.

Maybe youre struggling with reading comprehension. People can do whatever but the Bible isnt cool with it at all and never will be.

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Vicious_Dios
12/08/19 11:23:15 AM
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Why don't they just go to another judge? Why make her go against her beliefs?

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