Current Events > FUN FACT: Sheryl Crow stole a visionary's songs and drove him to suicide

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Blackstar110 11/22/19 12:53:32 PM #1:	-Kevin Gilbert, young singer-songwriter, wins 1998 worldwide talent contest by Yamaha -Gilbert gets invited by Madonnas producer to make an album -Through this, he works with Michael Jackson and meets Sheryl Crow, a backup dancer for MJ. They begin dating -Gilbert, working through his own album, is connected with a group of musicians and call themselves the Tuesday Night Music Club -Crow is working on an album, her label isnt happy with it, so she brings it to the TNMC -TNMC workshops it and essentially writes the whole album. They are all credited as writers on the songs EXCEPT Crow, particularly Gilbert, who wrote Leaving Las Vegas and coached her on singing -After a year of collaboration, they turned over the finished master and Crow told them all to get lost -She names the album Tuesday Night Music Club and basically just puts a thanks for the support in the liner notes -Crow dumps Gilbert for a record label executive -Crow performs Leaving Las Vegas on Letterman, who asks if the song is autobiographical. She says yes -Shortly after, Gilbert kills himself -Crow shows up to his funeral and is shouted down until she leaves Kevin wouldve turned 53 this week Happy KG Awareness Week --- -Shred <cite>Blackstar110 posted [p:930532089] in FUN FACT: ... [t:78187342]...</cite> <quote>-Kevin Gilbert, young singer-songwriter, wins 1998 worldwide talent contest by Yamaha -Gilbert gets invited by Madonnas producer to make an album -Through this, he works with Michael Jackson and meets Sheryl Crow, a backup dancer for MJ. They begin dating -Gilbert, working through his own album, is connected with a group of musicians and call themselves the Tuesday Night Music Club -Crow is working on an album, her label isnt happy with it, so she brings it to the TNMC -TNMC workshops it and essentially writes the whole album. They are all credited as writers on the songs EXCEPT Crow, particularly Gilbert, who wrote Leaving Las Vegas and coached her on singing -After a year of collaboration, they turned over the finished master and Crow told them all to get lost -She names the album Tuesday Night Music Club and basically just puts a thanks for the support in the liner notes -Crow dumps Gilbert for a record label executive -Crow performs Leaving Las Vegas on Letterman, who asks if the song is autobiographical. She says yes -Shortly after, Gilbert kills himself -Crow shows up to his funeral and is shouted down until she leaves Kevin wouldve turned 53 this week Happy KG Awareness Week</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Medussa 11/22/19 12:54:58 PM #2:	that's not fun. that's not fun at all. =( --- Boom! That's right, this is all happening! You cannot change the channel now! So... what did we learn? <cite>Medussa posted [p:930532139] in FUN FACT: ... [t:78187342]...</cite> <quote>that's not fun. that's not fun at all. =(</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheGoldenEel 11/22/19 12:57:28 PM #3:	Wikipedia says Kevin Gilbert died of autoerotic asphyxiation --- The words of The Golden Eel have been revealed... Games: http://backloggery.com/wrldindstries302 \\ Music: http://www.last.fm/user/DrMorberg/ <cite>TheGoldenEel posted [p:930532233] in FUN FACT: ... [t:78187342]...</cite> <quote>Wikipedia says Kevin Gilbert died of autoerotic asphyxiation </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blackstar110 11/22/19 12:57:46 PM #4:	Few of my favorites of his: https://youtu.be/pc-6Lsnn2aw https://youtu.be/3qvVjFr6ff4 https://youtu.be/KSVetAleJLw https://youtu.be/Cf268EoWXss --- -Shred <cite>Blackstar110 posted [p:930532254] in FUN FACT: ... [t:78187342]...</cite> <quote>Few of my favorites of his: https://youtu.be/pc-6Lsnn2aw https://youtu.be/3qvVjFr6ff4 https://youtu.be/KSVetAleJLw https://youtu.be/Cf268EoWXss</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blackstar110 11/22/19 12:58:09 PM #5:	TheGoldenEel posted... Wikipedia says Kevin Gilbert died of autoerotic asphyxiation Correct, but in his downward spiral following these events --- -Shred <cite>Blackstar110 posted [p:930532278] in FUN FACT: ... [t:78187342]...</cite> <quote>TheGoldenEel posted...</cite> <quote>Wikipedia says Kevin Gilbert died of autoerotic asphyxiation </quote> Correct, but in his downward spiral following these events</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lairen 11/22/19 12:58:40 PM #6:	Well shes an evil bitch. --- When it rains, it pours. <cite>Lairen posted [p:930532298] in FUN FACT: ... [t:78187342]...</cite> <quote>Well shes an evil bitch.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
spudger 11/22/19 12:59:24 PM #7:	god damn now i hate sheryl crow Blackstar110 posted... Sheryl Crow, a backup dancer for MJ this part is hilarious though. nothing about her made me think she could dance. --- -Only dead fish swim with the current http://error1355.com/ce/spudger.html <cite>spudger posted [p:930532327] in FUN FACT: ... [t:78187342]...</cite> <quote>god damn now i hate sheryl crow Blackstar110 posted...</cite> <quote>Sheryl Crow, a backup dancer for MJ</quote> this part is hilarious though. nothing about her made me think she could dance.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blackstar110 11/22/19 1:01:19 PM #8:	Worth noting as a disclaimer that of course there are two sides to every story, etc, but essentially the entire TNMC backs this version of events --- -Shred <cite>Blackstar110 posted [p:930532421] in FUN FACT: ... [t:78187342]...</cite> <quote>Worth noting as a disclaimer that of course there are two sides to every story, etc, but essentially the entire TNMC backs this version of events</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blackstar110 11/22/19 1:06:13 PM #9:	If youre a Genesis fan, highly recommend his performance of the entirety of The Lamb: https://youtu.be/s4Ml1QDdNZ0 --- -Shred <cite>Blackstar110 posted [p:930532641] in FUN FACT: ... [t:78187342]...</cite> <quote>If youre a Genesis fan, highly recommend his performance of the entirety of The Lamb: https://youtu.be/s4Ml1QDdNZ0</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ASithLord7 11/22/19 1:42:18 PM #10:	Blackstar110 posted... TheGoldenEel posted... Wikipedia says Kevin Gilbert died of autoerotic asphyxiation Correct, but in his downward spiral following these events That isnt suicide --- https://imgur.com/VZeCB RebelElite791 <cite>ASithLord7 posted [p:930534204] in FUN FACT: ... [t:78187342]...</cite> <quote>Blackstar110 posted...</cite> <quote>TheGoldenEel posted...</cite> <quote>Wikipedia says Kevin Gilbert died of autoerotic asphyxiation </quote> Correct, but in his downward spiral following these events</quote> That isnt suicide</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blackstar110 11/22/19 3:27:03 PM #11:	ASithLord7 posted... Blackstar110 posted... TheGoldenEel posted... Wikipedia says Kevin Gilbert died of autoerotic asphyxiation Correct, but in his downward spiral following these events That isnt suicide Okay, we can nitpick He spiraled into a severe cycle of depression and self-harm until it killed him Better? --- -Shred <cite>Blackstar110 posted [p:930539186] in FUN FACT: ... [t:78187342]...</cite> <quote>ASithLord7 posted...</cite> <quote>Blackstar110 posted...</cite> <quote>TheGoldenEel posted...</cite> <quote>Wikipedia says Kevin Gilbert died of autoerotic asphyxiation </quote> Correct, but in his downward spiral following these events</quote> That isnt suicide</quote> Okay, we can nitpick He spiraled into a severe cycle of depression and self-harm until it killed him Better?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iPhone_7 11/22/19 3:30:16 PM #12:	He died doing what he loved. --- Sig User Logic https://imgur.com/lA5fm7w <cite>iPhone_7 posted [p:930539352] in FUN FACT: ... [t:78187342]...</cite> <quote>He died doing what he loved.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Freddie_Mercury 11/22/19 3:36:57 PM #13:	source? --- https://i.imgtc.com/eMQvkRJ.png https://i.imgtc.ws/l86HyIt.png <cite>Freddie_Mercury posted [p:930539684] in FUN FACT: ... [t:78187342]...</cite> <quote>source? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ASithLord7 11/22/19 3:40:21 PM #14:	Blackstar110 posted... ASithLord7 posted... Blackstar110 posted... TheGoldenEel posted... Wikipedia says Kevin Gilbert died of autoerotic asphyxiation Correct, but in his downward spiral following these events That isnt suicide Okay, we can nitpick He spiraled into a severe cycle of depression and self-harm until it killed him Better? Autoerotic asphyxiation, while dangerous and certainly not my jam, is not self harm. --- https://imgur.com/VZeCB RebelElite791 <cite>ASithLord7 posted [p:930539833] in FUN FACT: ... [t:78187342]...</cite> <quote>Blackstar110 posted...</cite> <quote>ASithLord7 posted...</cite> <quote>Blackstar110 posted...</cite> <quote>TheGoldenEel posted...</cite> <quote>Wikipedia says Kevin Gilbert died of autoerotic asphyxiation </quote> Correct, but in his downward spiral following these events</quote> That isnt suicide</quote> Okay, we can nitpick He spiraled into a severe cycle of depression and self-harm until it killed him Better?</quote> Autoerotic asphyxiation, while dangerous and certainly not my jam, is not self harm.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gp1829 11/22/19 3:41:23 PM #15:	That seems like a pretty awful thing to do but did it really lead to his death? Reading his wiki page it seems like he was still writing and preforming. Is there an article to read about how it put him into a depression and more about the funeral situation. This is the first I heard about this and want to know more. He died in 1996 as well so the contest date I believe is wrong in the OP <cite>gp1829 posted [p:930539899] in FUN FACT: ... [t:78187342]...</cite> <quote>That seems like a pretty awful thing to do but did it really lead to his death? Reading his wiki page it seems like he was still writing and preforming. Is there an article to read about how it put him into a depression and more about the funeral situation. This is the first I heard about this and want to know more. He died in 1996 as well so the contest date I believe is wrong in the OP</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DeadBankerDream 11/22/19 3:43:40 PM #16:	Mods plz close topic and suspend TC for lying anus analry. --- "Your mother was a broken down tub of junk with more gentlemen callers than the operator." <cite>DeadBankerDream posted [p:930540007] in FUN FACT: ... [t:78187342]...</cite> <quote>Mods plz close topic and suspend TC for lying anus analry.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gafemage 11/22/19 3:44:23 PM #17:	Blackstar110 posted... He spiraled into a severe cycle of depression and self-harm until it killed him Better? Autoerotic asphyxiation isn't self-harm and non-depressed people probably do it all the time, so no. He got fucked over, nobody's denying that, but there's basically no concrete correlation between SC screwing him over & him dying an extremely horny death. --- https://imgur.com/1EOFcjn https://imgur.com/epjd8zk #ShameGimmickAccounts2k20 <cite>Gafemage posted [p:930540044] in FUN FACT: ... [t:78187342]...</cite> <quote>Blackstar110 posted...</cite> <quote>He spiraled into a severe cycle of depression and self-harm until it killed him Better?</quote> Autoerotic asphyxiation isn't self-harm and non-depressed people probably do it all the time, so no. He got fucked over, nobody's denying that, but there's basically no concrete correlation between SC screwing him over & him dying an extremely horny death.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
divot1338 11/22/19 3:56:41 PM #18:	ASithLord7 posted... Blackstar110 posted... ASithLord7 posted... Blackstar110 posted... TheGoldenEel posted... Wikipedia says Kevin Gilbert died of autoerotic asphyxiation Correct, but in his downward spiral following these events That isnt suicide Okay, we can nitpick He spiraled into a severe cycle of depression and self-harm until it killed him Better? Autoerotic asphyxiation, while dangerous and certainly not my jam, is not self harm. I feel like theres a very good chance they had no idea thats how he died until it got brought up. --- Moustache twirling villian https://i.imgur.com/U3lt3H4.jpg- Kerbey <cite>divot1338 posted [p:930540666] in FUN FACT: ... [t:78187342]...</cite> <quote>ASithLord7 posted...</cite> <quote>Blackstar110 posted...</cite> <quote>ASithLord7 posted...</cite> <quote>Blackstar110 posted...</cite> <quote>TheGoldenEel posted...</cite> <quote>Wikipedia says Kevin Gilbert died of autoerotic asphyxiation </quote> Correct, but in his downward spiral following these events</quote> That isnt suicide</quote> Okay, we can nitpick He spiraled into a severe cycle of depression and self-harm until it killed him Better?</quote> Autoerotic asphyxiation, while dangerous and certainly not my jam, is not self harm.</quote> I feel like theres a very good chance they had no idea thats how he died until it got brought up.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gafemage 11/22/19 4:04:43 PM #19:	divot1338 posted... ASithLord7 posted... Blackstar110 posted... ASithLord7 posted... Blackstar110 posted... TheGoldenEel posted... Wikipedia says Kevin Gilbert died of autoerotic asphyxiation Correct, but in his downward spiral following these events That isnt suicide Okay, we can nitpick He spiraled into a severe cycle of depression and self-harm until it killed him Better? Autoerotic asphyxiation, while dangerous and certainly not my jam, is not self harm. I feel like theres a very good chance they had no idea thats how he died until it got brought up. If this is the case TC we're still early enough ITT where you can just say "I was wrong", no harm no foul; doubling down will only make things worse. --- https://imgur.com/1EOFcjn https://imgur.com/epjd8zk #ShameGimmickAccounts2k20 <cite>Gafemage posted [p:930541051] in FUN FACT: ... [t:78187342]...</cite> <quote>divot1338 posted...</cite> <quote>ASithLord7 posted...</cite> <quote>Blackstar110 posted...</cite> <quote>ASithLord7 posted...</cite> <quote>Blackstar110 posted...</cite> <quote>TheGoldenEel posted...</cite> <quote>Wikipedia says Kevin Gilbert died of autoerotic asphyxiation </quote> Correct, but in his downward spiral following these events</quote> That isnt suicide</quote> Okay, we can nitpick He spiraled into a severe cycle of depression and self-harm until it killed him Better?</quote> Autoerotic asphyxiation, while dangerous and certainly not my jam, is not self harm.</quote> I feel like theres a very good chance they had no idea thats how he died until it got brought up.</quote> If this is the case TC we're still early enough ITT where you can just say "I was wrong", no harm no foul; doubling down will only make things worse.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blackstar110 11/22/19 4:49:55 PM #20:	I was wrong to word it as suicide for simplicitys sake. Thats how I always viewed it, given his particular circumstances of increasing reclusiveness and depression until his death, but point taken. However, it is documented that the incident drove him into a dark place where his friends started worrying about him, he got into dark shit, journaled about it, and then ultimately died, and she was yelled out of his funeral by his friends and family. So, I stand by the point. Sure, people can do auto-erotic asphyxiation for pure giggles, and people can jump out of planes because theyre extreme thrillseekers. In this particular case, the guy spiraled into a severe depression and wound up dead. I can go dig up the long articles on the guys history and events leading to his death, having been a big fan of his for 15 years, but I figured the bullet points were sufficient. --- -Shred <cite>Blackstar110 posted [p:930543214] in FUN FACT: ... [t:78187342]...</cite> <quote>I was wrong to word it as suicide for simplicitys sake. Thats how I always viewed it, given his particular circumstances of increasing reclusiveness and depression until his death, but point taken. However, it is documented that the incident drove him into a dark place where his friends started worrying about him, he got into dark shit, journaled about it, and then ultimately died, and she was yelled out of his funeral by his friends and family. So, I stand by the point. Sure, people can do auto-erotic asphyxiation for pure giggles, and people can jump out of planes because theyre extreme thrillseekers. In this particular case, the guy spiraled into a severe depression and wound up dead. I can go dig up the long articles on the guys history and events leading to his death, having been a big fan of his for 15 years, but I figured the bullet points were sufficient.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 11/22/19 4:54:27 PM #21:	I had no idea. if true, she is a bitch <cite>Zikten posted [p:930543430] in FUN FACT: ... [t:78187342]...</cite> <quote>I had no idea. if true, she is a bitch</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ASithLord7 11/22/19 5:01:52 PM #22:	Blackstar110 posted... So, I stand by the point. Sure, people can do auto-erotic asphyxiation for pure giggles, and people can jump out of planes because theyre extreme thrillseekers. In this particular case, the guy spiraled into a severe depression and wound up dead. Whatever fetishes he had has nothing to do with depression. Shut up. --- https://imgur.com/VZeCB RebelElite791 <cite>ASithLord7 posted [p:930543793] in FUN FACT: ... [t:78187342]...</cite> <quote>Blackstar110 posted...</cite> <quote>So, I stand by the point. Sure, people can do auto-erotic asphyxiation for pure giggles, and people can jump out of planes because theyre extreme thrillseekers. In this particular case, the guy spiraled into a severe depression and wound up dead.</quote> Whatever fetishes he had has nothing to do with depression. Shut up.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DeadBankerDream 11/22/19 5:03:14 PM #23:	Blackstar110 posted... I was wrong to word it as suicide for simplicitys sake. Thats how I always viewed it, given his particular circumstances of increasing reclusiveness and depression until his death, but point taken. However, it is documented that the incident drove him into a dark place where his friends started worrying about him, he got into dark shit, journaled about it, and then ultimately died, and she was yelled out of his funeral by his friends and family. So, I stand by the point. Sure, people can do auto-erotic asphyxiation for pure giggles, and people can jump out of planes because theyre extreme thrillseekers. In this particular case, the guy spiraled into a severe depression and wound up dead. I can go dig up the long articles on the guys history and events leading to his death, having been a big fan of his for 15 years, but I figured the bullet points were sufficient. Doubling down while pretending to not double down. Impressive gambit. Let's see how it works out for him. --- "Your mother was a broken down tub of junk with more gentlemen callers than the operator." <cite>DeadBankerDream posted [p:930543862] in FUN FACT: ... [t:78187342]...</cite> <quote>Blackstar110 posted...</cite> <quote>I was wrong to word it as suicide for simplicitys sake. Thats how I always viewed it, given his particular circumstances of increasing reclusiveness and depression until his death, but point taken. However, it is documented that the incident drove him into a dark place where his friends started worrying about him, he got into dark shit, journaled about it, and then ultimately died, and she was yelled out of his funeral by his friends and family. So, I stand by the point. Sure, people can do auto-erotic asphyxiation for pure giggles, and people can jump out of planes because theyre extreme thrillseekers. In this particular case, the guy spiraled into a severe depression and wound up dead. I can go dig up the long articles on the guys history and events leading to his death, having been a big fan of his for 15 years, but I figured the bullet points were sufficient.</quote> Doubling down while pretending to not double down. Impressive gambit. Let's see how it works out for him.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blackstar110 11/22/19 5:07:04 PM #24:	Okay, you guys. Youre the experts on him, and definitely not Internet Smart Guys who found out about this for the first time by opening the topic. --- -Shred <cite>Blackstar110 posted [p:930544053] in FUN FACT: ... [t:78187342]...</cite> <quote>Okay, you guys. Youre the experts on him, and definitely not Internet Smart Guys who found out about this for the first time by opening the topic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Elmer_Glue 11/22/19 5:07:34 PM #25:	Intentionally suffocating yourself is self-harm, wtf are you people talking about. <cite>Elmer_Glue posted [p:930544079] in FUN FACT: ... [t:78187342]...</cite> <quote>Intentionally suffocating yourself is self-harm, wtf are you people talking about. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blackstar110 11/22/19 5:08:59 PM #26:	Elmer_Glue posted... Intentionally suffocating yourself is self-harm, wtf are you people talking about. No, its just routine fetish things and his girlfriend and friends explicitly blamed Crow for his death because this was routine behavior for him, you see. --- -Shred <cite>Blackstar110 posted [p:930544143] in FUN FACT: ... [t:78187342]...</cite> <quote>Elmer_Glue posted...</cite> <quote>Intentionally suffocating yourself is self-harm, wtf are you people talking about. </quote> No, its just routine fetish things and his girlfriend and friends explicitly blamed Crow for his death because this was routine behavior for him, you see.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gafemage 11/22/19 5:09:37 PM #27:	Elmer_Glue posted... Intentionally suffocating yourself is self-harm, wtf are you people talking about. Technically yes, but there's a connotation to the mainstream use of the term "self harm" that doesn't apply here. --- https://imgur.com/1EOFcjn https://imgur.com/epjd8zk #ShameGimmickAccounts2k20 <cite>Gafemage posted [p:930544167] in FUN FACT: ... [t:78187342]...</cite> <quote>Elmer_Glue posted...</cite> <quote>Intentionally suffocating yourself is self-harm, wtf are you people talking about. </quote> Technically yes, but there's a connotation to the mainstream use of the term "self harm" that doesn't apply here.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DeadBankerDream 11/22/19 5:11:17 PM #28:	Blackstar110 posted... No, its just routine fetish things and his girlfriend and friends explicitly blamed Crow for his death because this was routine behavior for him, you see. Are you implying that he intentionally killed himself using masturbation fetish toys? --- "Your mother was a broken down tub of junk with more gentlemen callers than the operator." <cite>DeadBankerDream posted [p:930544233] in FUN FACT: ... [t:78187342]...</cite> <quote>Blackstar110 posted...</cite> <quote>No, its just routine fetish things and his girlfriend and friends explicitly blamed Crow for his death because this was routine behavior for him, you see. </quote> Are you implying that he intentionally killed himself using masturbation fetish toys?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Esrac 11/22/19 5:12:57 PM #29:	ASithLord7 posted... Blackstar110 posted... So, I stand by the point. Sure, people can do auto-erotic asphyxiation for pure giggles, and people can jump out of planes because theyre extreme thrillseekers. In this particular case, the guy spiraled into a severe depression and wound up dead. Whatever fetishes he had has nothing to do with depression. Shut up. You don't suppose someone's emotional or mental state can influence what kind of sexual behavior they engage in? <cite>Esrac posted [p:930544305] in FUN FACT: ... [t:78187342]...</cite> <quote>ASithLord7 posted...</cite> <quote>Blackstar110 posted...</cite> <quote>So, I stand by the point. Sure, people can do auto-erotic asphyxiation for pure giggles, and people can jump out of planes because theyre extreme thrillseekers. In this particular case, the guy spiraled into a severe depression and wound up dead.</quote> Whatever fetishes he had has nothing to do with depression. Shut up.</quote> You don't suppose someone's emotional or mental state can influence what kind of sexual behavior they engage in?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FL81 11/22/19 5:17:34 PM #30:	DeadBankerDream posted... Blackstar110 posted... No, its just routine fetish things and his girlfriend and friends explicitly blamed Crow for his death because this was routine behavior for him, you see. Are you implying that he intentionally killed himself using masturbation fetish toys? grief affects everyone differently --- Placeholder signature until ImgTC comes back online <cite>FL81 posted [p:930544511] in FUN FACT: ... [t:78187342]...</cite> <quote>DeadBankerDream posted...</cite> <quote>Blackstar110 posted...</cite> <quote>No, its just routine fetish things and his girlfriend and friends explicitly blamed Crow for his death because this was routine behavior for him, you see. </quote> Are you implying that he intentionally killed himself using masturbation fetish toys?</quote> grief affects everyone differently</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ASithLord7 11/22/19 5:18:44 PM #31:	Esrac posted... ASithLord7 posted... Blackstar110 posted... So, I stand by the point. Sure, people can do auto-erotic asphyxiation for pure giggles, and people can jump out of planes because theyre extreme thrillseekers. In this particular case, the guy spiraled into a severe depression and wound up dead. Whatever fetishes he had has nothing to do with depression. Shut up. You don't suppose someone's emotional or mental state can influence what kind of sexual behavior they engage in? Is there proof he wasnt into it before? --- https://imgur.com/VZeCB RebelElite791 <cite>ASithLord7 posted [p:930544562] in FUN FACT: ... [t:78187342]...</cite> <quote>Esrac posted...</cite> <quote>ASithLord7 posted...</cite> <quote>Blackstar110 posted...</cite> <quote>So, I stand by the point. Sure, people can do auto-erotic asphyxiation for pure giggles, and people can jump out of planes because theyre extreme thrillseekers. In this particular case, the guy spiraled into a severe depression and wound up dead.</quote> Whatever fetishes he had has nothing to do with depression. Shut up.</quote> You don't suppose someone's emotional or mental state can influence what kind of sexual behavior they engage in?</quote> Is there proof he wasnt into it before?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Weezy_Tha_Don 11/22/19 5:19:22 PM #32:	wouldnt it be self harm/pleasure? --- https://imgur.com/hwZyGuA - courtesy of the homie United_World I speak my mind, cause biting my tongue hurts. <cite>Weezy_Tha_Don posted [p:930544593] in FUN FACT: ... [t:78187342]...</cite> <quote>wouldnt it be self harm/pleasure?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blackstar110 11/22/19 5:20:16 PM #33:	DeadBankerDream posted... Blackstar110 posted... No, its just routine fetish things and his girlfriend and friends explicitly blamed Crow for his death because this was routine behavior for him, you see. Are you implying that he intentionally killed himself using masturbation fetish toys? Im not implying anything, Im stating outright that his friends and family were conscious of his deteriorating mental state and lifestyle and blamed this specifically for his spiral and death. I walked back my use of the word suicide I didnt walk back the cause and effect, because I think his partner, his friends, and his family would know him best. --- -Shred <cite>Blackstar110 posted [p:930544629] in FUN FACT: ... [t:78187342]...</cite> <quote>DeadBankerDream posted...</cite> <quote>Blackstar110 posted...</cite> <quote>No, its just routine fetish things and his girlfriend and friends explicitly blamed Crow for his death because this was routine behavior for him, you see. </quote> Are you implying that he intentionally killed himself using masturbation fetish toys?</quote> Im not implying anything, Im stating outright that his friends and family were conscious of his deteriorating mental state and lifestyle and blamed this specifically for his spiral and death. I walked back my use of the word suicide I didnt walk back the cause and effect, because I think his partner, his friends, and his family would know him best.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DeadBankerDream 11/22/19 5:21:19 PM #34:	You're not implying Obama is a Muslim born in Kenya, you're just asking questions. I see. --- "Your mother was a broken down tub of junk with more gentlemen callers than the operator." <cite>DeadBankerDream posted [p:930544668] in FUN FACT: ... [t:78187342]...</cite> <quote>You're not implying Obama is a Muslim born in Kenya, you're just asking questions. I see.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blackstar110 11/22/19 5:24:07 PM #35:	DeadBankerDream posted... You're not implying Obama is a Muslim born in Kenya, you're just asking questions. I see. If Obamas friends and family said he was a Muslim born in Kenya, sure, Id mull it over. Nice equivalence, though. --- -Shred <cite>Blackstar110 posted [p:930544798] in FUN FACT: ... [t:78187342]...</cite> <quote>DeadBankerDream posted...</cite> <quote>You're not implying Obama is a Muslim born in Kenya, you're just asking questions. I see.</quote> If Obamas friends and family said he was a Muslim born in Kenya, sure, Id mull it over. Nice equivalence, though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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