Poll of the Day > Lucasfilm exec: Making Star Wars film is difficult due to lackof source material

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ClarkDuke 11/22/19 12:52:15 AM #51:	Kungfu Kenobi posted... Lokarin posted... Lets think of this backwards: Indiana Jones and Star Wars were both homages to old serials... but there ARE no old serials to base on now. The problem is Star Wars kinda IS "the old serials" now. So new Star Wars movies are really just homages to Star Wars movies. This applies equally to the prequels, and is a criticism I leveled at them when they first came out. So we end up with this photocopy of a photocopy effect that's only going to get worse. Locke90 posted... Mad_Max posted... George Lucas must be rolling in his grave hes not dead. A minor detail. i recently sent in a script for fast and the furious, i should throw one together for this, ok? --- https://imgur.com/qL0DHFI https://imgur.com/JL9rRLt https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ <cite>ClarkDuke posted [p:930513048] in Lucasfilm ... [t:78183665]...</cite> <quote>Kungfu Kenobi posted...</cite> <quote>Lokarin posted...</cite> <quote>Lets think of this backwards: Indiana Jones and Star Wars were both homages to old serials... but there ARE no old serials to base on now.</quote> The problem is Star Wars kinda IS "the old serials" now. So new Star Wars movies are really just homages to Star Wars movies. This applies equally to the prequels, and is a criticism I leveled at them when they first came out. So we end up with this photocopy of a photocopy effect that's only going to get worse. Locke90 posted...</cite> <quote>Mad_Max posted...</cite> <quote>George Lucas must be rolling in his grave</quote> hes not dead.</quote> A minor detail.</quote> i recently sent in a script for fast and the furious, i should throw one together for this, ok?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 11/22/19 2:15:17 AM #52:	Cruddy_horse posted... Mad_Max posted... George Lucas must be rolling in his grave He's the one who sold it to Disney, this is literally all his fault. That's why it would bother him? --- Doctor Foxx posted... The demonizing of soy has a lot to do with xenophobic ideas. <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:930515128] in Lucasfilm ... [t:78183665]...</cite> <quote>Cruddy_horse posted...</cite> <quote>Mad_Max posted... </cite> <quote>George Lucas must be rolling in his grave</quote> He's the one who sold it to Disney, this is literally all his fault. </quote> That's why it would bother him?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DirtBasedSoap 11/22/19 2:34:06 AM #53:	Mead posted... Locke90 posted... Mead posted... Cruddy_horse posted... Mad_Max posted... George Lucas must be rolling in his grave He's the one who sold it to Disney, this is literally all his fault. It has issues but it was even shittier under his control no just no. The prequels are way worse than the new films. I disagree. I watched TPM for the first time in years the other day and it was way better than I remembered. --- I'm thinkin' about starting a corporation. WHO'S WITH ME? <cite>DirtBasedSoap posted [p:930515504] in Lucasfilm ... [t:78183665]...</cite> <quote>Mead posted...</cite> <quote>Locke90 posted...</cite> <quote>Mead posted...</cite> <quote>Cruddy_horse posted...</cite> <quote>Mad_Max posted... </cite> <quote>George Lucas must be rolling in his grave</quote> He's the one who sold it to Disney, this is literally all his fault. </quote> It has issues but it was even shittier under his control</quote> no just no.</quote> The prequels are way worse than the new films.</quote> I disagree. I watched TPM for the first time in years the other day and it was way better than I remembered.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ClarkDuke 11/22/19 2:48:31 AM #54:	DirtBasedSoap posted... I disagree. I watched TPM for the first time in years the other day and it was way better than I remembered. agreed, the new movies are so bad they've make the phantom menace, good. --- https://imgur.com/qL0DHFI https://imgur.com/JL9rRLt https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ <cite>ClarkDuke posted [p:930515752] in Lucasfilm ... [t:78183665]...</cite> <quote>DirtBasedSoap posted... </cite> <quote>I disagree. I watched TPM for the first time in years the other day and it was way better than I remembered.</quote> agreed, the new movies are so bad they've make the phantom menace, good. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dragon504 11/22/19 4:01:28 AM #55:	Mead posted... Locke90 posted... Mead posted... Locke90 posted... Mead posted... Cruddy_horse posted... Mad_Max posted... George Lucas must be rolling in his grave He's the one who sold it to Disney, this is literally all his fault. It has issues but it was even shittier under his control no just no. The prequels are way worse than the new films. actually no the prequels compared to the new films were original. Original shit. Prequels look like masterpieces compared to 7 and 8. All of the new side stuff, RO, Solo, and Mando are all also better than 7 and 8 as well. --- http://myanimelist.net/profile/dragon504 http://followmy.tv/u/dragon504/time_wasted <cite>dragon504 posted [p:930516889] in Lucasfilm ... [t:78183665]...</cite> <quote>Mead posted...</cite> <quote>Locke90 posted...</cite> <quote>Mead posted...</cite> <quote>Locke90 posted...</cite> <quote>Mead posted...</cite> <quote>Cruddy_horse posted...</cite> <quote>Mad_Max posted... </cite> <quote>George Lucas must be rolling in his grave</quote> He's the one who sold it to Disney, this is literally all his fault. </quote> It has issues but it was even shittier under his control</quote> no just no.</quote> The prequels are way worse than the new films.</quote> actually no the prequels compared to the new films were original.</quote> Original shit.</quote> Prequels look like masterpieces compared to 7 and 8. All of the new side stuff, RO, Solo, and Mando are all also better than 7 and 8 as well.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Krow_Incarnate 11/22/19 4:37:10 AM #56:	lol --- Hail Hydra <cite>Krow_Incarnate posted [p:930517332] in Lucasfilm ... [t:78183665]...</cite> <quote>lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 11/22/19 4:53:01 AM #57:	dragon504 posted... RO, Solo, and Mando are all also better than 7 and 8 as well. I can certainly agree with that --- More malicious than mischievous <cite>Mead posted [p:930517552] in Lucasfilm ... [t:78183665]...</cite> <quote>dragon504 posted...</cite> <quote>RO, Solo, and Mando are all also better than 7 and 8 as well.</quote> I can certainly agree with that</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Krazy_Kirby 11/22/19 9:08:36 AM #58:	aHappySacka posted... Good thing they can reference or borrow things from the extended uni- oh wait having han and leia's son ~~go to the dark side~~ is taken right from some of the books --- Kill From The Shadows. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiot <cite>Krazy_Kirby posted [p:930522464] in Lucasfilm ... [t:78183665]...</cite> <quote>aHappySacka posted...</cite> <quote>Good thing they can reference or borrow things from the extended uni- oh wait</quote> having han and leia's son go to the dark side is taken right from some of the books</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Amuseum 11/22/19 2:00:32 PM #59:	decades of novels, cartoons, video games...yep lack of source material. why did they hire someone who knows nothing nor cares about SW to oversee it? --- Ergonomic keyboard layouts for Android https://goo.gl/KR1vK6 Shena'Fu's Online Card Creator https://bit.ly/sfocc <cite>Amuseum posted [p:930535032] in Lucasfilm ... [t:78183665]...</cite> <quote>decades of novels, cartoons, video games...yep lack of source material. why did they hire someone who knows nothing nor cares about SW to oversee it?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zareth 11/22/19 2:05:34 PM #60:	Bring back Kyle Katarn. --- It's okay, I have no idea who I am either. https://imgur.com/WOo6wcq <cite>Zareth posted [p:930535297] in Lucasfilm ... [t:78183665]...</cite> <quote>Bring back Kyle Katarn.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Locke90 11/22/19 2:12:53 PM #61:	Zareth posted... Bring back Kyle Katarn. I concur --- Friend code 3222-6836-6888 <cite>Locke90 posted [p:930535642] in Lucasfilm ... [t:78183665]...</cite> <quote>Zareth posted...</cite> <quote>Bring back Kyle Katarn.</quote> I concur</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ClarkDuke 11/22/19 4:29:00 PM #62:	Locke90 posted... I concur i would enjoy this, ok? --- https://imgur.com/qL0DHFI https://imgur.com/JL9rRLt https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ <cite>ClarkDuke posted [p:930542208] in Lucasfilm ... [t:78183665]...</cite> <quote>Locke90 posted... </cite> <quote>I concur</quote>i would enjoy this, ok? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xGhostchantx 11/22/19 6:11:40 PM #63:	Krazy_Kirby posted... aHappySacka posted... Good thing they can reference or borrow things from the extended uni- oh wait having han and leia's son ~~go to the dark side~~ is taken right from some of the books A lot of TFA was picked from the bones of the EU. The destruction of that one planet by what was basically the sun crusher, exactly what you mentioned, some of the other things too. <cite>xGhostchantx posted [p:930547005] in Lucasfilm ... [t:78183665]...</cite> <quote>Krazy_Kirby posted...</cite> <quote>aHappySacka posted...</cite> <quote>Good thing they can reference or borrow things from the extended uni- oh wait</quote> having han and leia's son go to the dark side is taken right from some of the books</quote> A lot of TFA was picked from the bones of the EU. The destruction of that one planet by what was basically the sun crusher, exactly what you mentioned, some of the other things too.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JOExHIGASHI 11/22/19 6:26:06 PM #64:	What about star killer? The entire story is written and animated for them already. --- Next Xbox will be named Xbox1 2 <cite>JOExHIGASHI posted [p:930547655] in Lucasfilm ... [t:78183665]...</cite> <quote>What about star killer? The entire story is written and animated for them already.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
zebatov 11/22/19 7:16:12 PM #65:	What sources do the people who write the novels use...? --- C was right. <cite>zebatov posted [p:930549936] in Lucasfilm ... [t:78183665]...</cite> <quote>What sources do the people who write the novels use...? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Unbridled9 11/24/19 4:05:22 AM #66:	They really should have done the Vong. I mean, think about it. You start off with a victorious New Republic basically basking in its triumph over the Empire. It's strong, mighty, and... arrogant... in its virtue. Then they suddenly find a new opponent invading that is, for all intents and purposes, truly alien. They don't show up in the force and are a complete void, they don't use technology, in fact they despise it immensely, and use living beings as weapons. Their tactics and methods are simply completely alien. At first the NR moves in completely arrogant and believing that, with it's victory over the Empire and the growing Jedi numbers and everything it will be an easy victory only to get utterly thrashed. The NR government doesn't seem to care though and, instead, while touting many virtues and the heroism and valor of the 'fallen heroes' seems to ignore every warning and cares more about their own powerbase and even wants to do things like make peace with the Vong. Every battle against the Vong is hard-fought with the NR and jedi having to employ drastic and powerful measures, fighting to the last, and slowly getting pushed back or having victories near phyrric all the while the government effectively hides its head in the sand. Finally they can take it no more and end up broken and shattered, losing Coruscant in the process. After regrouping they find out that a follow-up force is coming and they don't have the numbers to win a battle but are determined to go down fighting with everything they have. Yet as the battle is joined they're clearly overwhelmed and losing... until at the last second... the imperial march plays and the Empire comes to the rescue. They're still evil, still facist, but they're willing to help. The remains of the NR don't know if it's the right thing but know that, on their own, they'll lose against the vong. So they accept the help of the Empire and, slowly, begin to push back the Vong. When the dust settles the NR and Empire end up joining together to make a new government and the few remaining jedi are cautious and wary, but also hopeful and having a chance to rebuild. Stretch that over three movies as well as an animated series or two and you've got yourself a goldmine. Plus then you can make the retcon a lot more sensible by saying that, while you respect the original stuff, it needs to be presented to a wider audience properly without the added baggage of decades of novels and the like. --- I am the gentle hand who heals, the happy smile who shields, and the foot that will kick your ***! - White Mage <cite>Unbridled9 posted [p:930614183] in Lucasfilm ... [t:78183665]...</cite> <quote>They really should have done the Vong. I mean, think about it. You start off with a victorious New Republic basically basking in its triumph over the Empire. It's strong, mighty, and... arrogant... in its virtue. Then they suddenly find a new opponent invading that is, for all intents and purposes, truly alien. They don't show up in the force and are a complete void, they don't use technology, in fact they despise it immensely, and use living beings as weapons. Their tactics and methods are simply completely alien. At first the NR moves in completely arrogant and believing that, with it's victory over the Empire and the growing Jedi numbers and everything it will be an easy victory only to get utterly thrashed. The NR government doesn't seem to care though and, instead, while touting many virtues and the heroism and valor of the 'fallen heroes' seems to ignore every warning and cares more about their own powerbase and even wants to do things like make peace with the Vong. Every battle against the Vong is hard-fought with the NR and jedi having to employ drastic and powerful measures, fighting to the last, and slowly getting pushed back or having victories near phyrric all the while the government effectively hides its head in the sand. Finally they can take it no more and end up broken and shattered, losing Coruscant in the process. After regrouping they find out that a follow-up force is coming and they don't have the numbers to win a battle but are determined to go down fighting with everything they have. Yet as the battle is joined they're clearly overwhelmed and losing... until at the last second... the imperial march plays and the Empire comes to the rescue. They're still evil, still facist, but they're willing to help. The remains of the NR don't know if it's the right thing but know that, on their own, they'll lose against the vong. So they accept the help of the Empire and, slowly, begin to push back the Vong. When the dust settles the NR and Empire end up joining together to make a new government and the few remaining jedi are cautious and wary, but also hopeful and having a chance to rebuild. Stretch that over three movies as well as an animated series or two and you've got yourself a goldmine. Plus then you can make the retcon a lot more sensible by saying that, while you respect the original stuff, it needs to be presented to a wider audience properly without the added baggage of decades of novels and the like.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Amuseum 11/24/19 4:37:13 AM #67:	Mad_Max posted... George Lucas must be rolling in his grave George Lucas is swimming in a pool filled with a billion 1-dollar bills. like Scrooge McDuck. http://i2.cdn.turner.com/money/dam/assets/140923100526-scrooge-mcduck-620xa.png --- Ergonomic keyboard layouts for Android https://goo.gl/KR1vK6 Shena'Fu's Online Card Creator https://bit.ly/sfocc <cite>Amuseum posted [p:930614693] in Lucasfilm ... [t:78183665]...</cite> <quote>Mad_Max posted...</cite> <quote>George Lucas must be rolling in his grave</quote> George Lucas is swimming in a pool filled with a billion 1-dollar bills. like Scrooge McDuck. http://i2.cdn.turner.com/money/dam/assets/140923100526-scrooge-mcduck-620xa.png</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mad_Max 11/24/19 6:54:42 AM #68:	Amuseum posted... Mad_Max posted... George Lucas must be rolling in his grave George Lucas is swimming in a pool filled with a billion 1-dollar bills. like Scrooge McDuck. http://i2.cdn.turner.com/money/dam/assets/140923100526-scrooge-mcduck-620xa.png https://youtu.be/viDL2W0HcJw --- Terminal Crazy https://imgur.com/R9TrmGD <cite>Mad_Max posted [p:930616836] in Lucasfilm ... [t:78183665]...</cite> <quote>Amuseum posted...</cite> <quote>Mad_Max posted...</cite> <quote>George Lucas must be rolling in his grave</quote> George Lucas is swimming in a pool filled with a billion 1-dollar bills. like Scrooge McDuck. http://i2.cdn.turner.com/money/dam/assets/140923100526-scrooge-mcduck-620xa.png</quote> https://youtu.be/viDL2W0HcJw</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wwinterj25 11/24/19 7:44:24 AM #69:	Mad_Max posted... We go through a really normal development process that everybody else does. Save for those with source materials, comic books and/or 800-page novels right? --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - https://imgur.com/YvP6isz <cite>wwinterj25 posted [p:930617535] in Lucasfilm ... [t:78183665]...</cite> <quote>Mad_Max posted...</cite> <quote>We go through a really normal development process that everybody else does. </quote> Save for those with source materials, comic books and/or 800-page novels right?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blighboy 11/24/19 9:57:11 AM #70:	I would rather watch a film of Rey taking a dump in Luke Skywalker's mouth than watch the fucking Vong. --- I have no idea whether or not he's a racist, but apparently there are recordings of him using racial slurs so it's a distinct possibility. <cite>Blighboy posted [p:930620387] in Lucasfilm ... [t:78183665]...</cite> <quote>I would rather watch a film of Rey taking a dump in Luke Skywalker's mouth than watch the fucking Vong.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ParanoidObsessive 11/24/19 10:25:00 AM #71:	Unbridled9 posted... They really should have done the Vong. They really shouldn't. The Vong were the worst thing about the old EU. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted [p:930621184] in Lucasfilm ... [t:78183665]...</cite> <quote><cite>Unbridled9 posted...</cite> <quote>They really should have done the Vong.</quote> They really shouldn't. The Vong were the worst thing about the old EU.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeetCheet 11/24/19 10:29:21 AM #72:	What was so bad about the Vong? It does sound kinda Star Trekky though. --- https://imgur.com/eQrRxik https://imgur.com/NC8itow <cite>LeetCheet posted [p:930621302] in Lucasfilm ... [t:78183665]...</cite> <quote>What was so bad about the Vong? It does sound kinda Star Trekky though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
I_Abibde 11/24/19 7:49:16 PM #73:	Unbridled9 posted... They really should have done the Vong. No, IMO. Big no. The EU had its rough moments before the Vong, but it was when they arrived that it truly went off the rails. --- -- I Abibde / Samuraiter Laughing at Game FAQs since 2002. <cite>I_Abibde posted [p:930646092] in Lucasfilm ... [t:78183665]...</cite> <quote>Unbridled9 posted...</cite> <quote>They really should have done the Vong.</quote> No, IMO. Big no. The EU had its rough moments before the Vong, but it was when they arrived that it truly went off the rails.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Unbridled9 11/24/19 9:13:46 PM #74:	LeetCheet posted... What was so bad about the Vong? It does sound kinda Star Trekky though. Best I can tell some of the posters feel it was a 'jump the shark' moment. I highly disagree. But let's stop and really think about this. They outright said that they were discarding the 'established' universe. They wouldn't be bound by the novels and whatnot and could fix anything they thought would be problematic. However with the Vong we get to see major progress for the NR, a new threat that is extremely different from the Empire on a fundamental level, a threat that could very realistically force the NR and Empire to work together as well as the Jedi and the Sith, the opportunity to show off a major galactic war without having to revert to the NR being rebels, and many other things. The choice for the NR and Empire to ally would be a massive moral/grey choice just ripe for exploration in shows and novels. You could even do stuff like, say, use the Death Star and have it actually be a legit moral choice since the Vong life forms are alien to the entire galaxy and, arguably, all potentially hostile to the very way of life enjoyed by everyone in the galaxy. Just imagine a scene where Luke and Leia along with the newer generation get confronted with the choice of using it and they end up abstaining due to their own experiences or outright doing their best to vote it's use down only to get outvoted by people who fear the Vong THAT MUCH. --- I am the gentle hand who heals, the happy smile who shields, and the foot that will kick your ***! - White Mage <cite>Unbridled9 posted [p:930650730] in Lucasfilm ... [t:78183665]...</cite> <quote>LeetCheet posted...</cite> <quote>What was so bad about the Vong? It does sound kinda Star Trekky though.</quote> Best I can tell some of the posters feel it was a 'jump the shark' moment. I highly disagree. But let's stop and really think about this. They outright said that they were discarding the 'established' universe. They wouldn't be bound by the novels and whatnot and could fix anything they thought would be problematic. However with the Vong we get to see major progress for the NR, a new threat that is extremely different from the Empire on a fundamental level, a threat that could very realistically force the NR and Empire to work together as well as the Jedi and the Sith, the opportunity to show off a major galactic war without having to revert to the NR being rebels, and many other things. The choice for the NR and Empire to ally would be a massive moral/grey choice just ripe for exploration in shows and novels. You could even do stuff like, say, use the Death Star and have it actually be a legit moral choice since the Vong life forms are alien to the entire galaxy and, arguably, all potentially hostile to the very way of life enjoyed by everyone in the galaxy. Just imagine a scene where Luke and Leia along with the newer generation get confronted with the choice of using it and they end up abstaining due to their own experiences or outright doing their best to vote it's use down only to get outvoted by people who fear the Vong THAT MUCH.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nogaems 11/24/19 9:18:16 PM #75:	Mead posted... There are certainly a few gems in the EU even if a lot of it stinks Is this what you were referring to?: https://i.imgur.com/1aB3SRr.png --- (CATS DON'T DANCE TO MY BEATS) <cite>nogaems posted [p:930651012] in Lucasfilm ... [t:78183665]...</cite> <quote>Mead posted... </cite> <quote>There are certainly a few gems in the EU even if a lot of it stinks</quote> Is this what you were referring to?: https://i.imgur.com/1aB3SRr.png </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mad_Max 11/24/19 9:23:11 PM #76:	nogaems posted... Mead posted... There are certainly a few gems in the EU even if a lot of it stinks Is this what you were referring to?: https://i.imgur.com/1aB3SRr.png lmao what the hell --- Terminal Crazy https://imgur.com/R9TrmGD <cite>Mad_Max posted [p:930651300] in Lucasfilm ... [t:78183665]...</cite> <quote>nogaems posted...</cite> <quote>Mead posted... </cite> <quote>There are certainly a few gems in the EU even if a lot of it stinks</quote> Is this what you were referring to?: https://i.imgur.com/1aB3SRr.png </quote> lmao what the hell</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Metalsonic66 11/24/19 9:43:09 PM #77:	Laughed and danced and farted late into the night --- PSN/Steam ID: Metalsonic_69 Big bombs go kabang. <cite>Metalsonic66 posted [p:930652562] in Lucasfilm ... [t:78183665]...</cite> <quote>Laughed and danced and farted late into the night </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 11/24/19 10:35:46 PM #78:	a deep meteoric toot --- More malicious than mischievous <cite>Mead posted [p:930655385] in Lucasfilm ... [t:78183665]...</cite> <quote>a deep meteoric toot</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ObligatoryFate 11/24/19 10:43:38 PM #79:	On topic: that quote sums up why the last episode was horrible. Off topic: that book excerpt was just perfect. --- Abolish Abortion Baby murder is always wrong. <cite>ObligatoryFate posted [p:930655773] in Lucasfilm ... [t:78183665]...</cite> <quote>On topic: that quote sums up why the last episode was horrible. Off topic: that book excerpt was just perfect.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blorfenburger 11/24/19 11:20:15 PM #80:	I don't understand, they could be so lazy and just mash things together to make a story. But, no? --- I use inverted controls. Also I hate fandoms. I'm the Assman. Come on boy you know what I'm all about. <cite>Blorfenburger posted [p:930657443] in Lucasfilm ... [t:78183665]...</cite> <quote>I don't understand, they could be so lazy and just mash things together to make a story. But, no?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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