Current Events > 4 NYPD officers tackle black teenager in subway station for selling candy.

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Lebronwon
11/14/19 10:13:47 AM
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https://twitter.com/sahluwal/status/1194745589038112769

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/NYPD-Officers-Seen-on-Video-Arresting-Candy-Vendor-at-Harlem-Subway-Station--564903932.html

Police in Harlem pinned down and arrested a man they say was illegally selling candy on a subway platform, video shows. The four officers were seen in cellphone video holding the man down on the subway platform for the 4/5/6 trains on 125th Street and Lexington Avenue around 7 p.m. Tuesday. Police said they had asked Byron Shark for his ID several times, but he refused. When the officers tried to arrest him for peddling the subway sweets on the northbound platform, they said he resisted, forcing them to bring him to the ground which is when witnesses started recording the incident. Shark has been arrested eight times since 2013, police said, for charges including criminal possession of a weapon, assault and menacing with a weapon. The incident comes after two unlicensed churro vendors were removed from Brooklyn subway stations and issued summonses this week, in what critics are calling an over-policing of the subways. At a rally held Wednesday in Brooklyn, advocates accused the NYPD of too strictly enforcing laws that arent essential, and want police to focus their efforts elsewhere.

The MTA bans the sale of food inside subway stations unless vendors have a permit. The NYPD says they have received numerous complaints of vendors without permits, prompting health concerns. However, the widely publicized recent incidents have raised questions regarding police strategies in the New York City subways. In October, the NYPD was also under fire after a video of officers pulling a gun on a 19-year-old fare evasion suspect was posted on social media. Another incident caught on camera in the same week showed an NYPD officer punching a 15-year-old in the face amid a scuffle between two groups of teens and police.

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haloiscoolisbak
11/14/19 10:14:42 AM
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It's just not cricket
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Blue_Inigo
11/14/19 10:17:12 AM
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Fuck the police
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KiwiTerraRizing
11/14/19 10:17:15 AM
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Was it good n plenty? If so it was justified.

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The Admiral
11/14/19 10:22:29 AM
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Video doesnt show him being tackled. Just shows him resisting arrest and several officers restraining him in the least forceful way possible.
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On_The_Edge
11/14/19 10:22:54 AM
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I bet this is the whole story

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spudger
11/14/19 10:24:22 AM
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protecting us from those dangerous candies
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Questionmarktarius
11/14/19 10:30:08 AM
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NYC: "stop selling food in subway stations"
NYers: continue selling food in subway stations
NYC: cites some woman for selling churros
woman: sells churros tomorrow
NYC: cites some woman for selling churros
woman: sells churros tomorrow
NYC: cites some woman for selling churros
woman: sells churros tomorrow
NYC: cites some woman for selling churros
woman: sells churros tomorrow
NYC: cites some woman for selling churros
woman: sells churros tomorrow
NYC: cites some woman for selling churros
woman: sells churros tomorrow
NYC: cites some woman for selling churros
woman: sells churros tomorrow
NYC: cites some woman for selling churros
woman: sells churros tomorrow
NYPD: arrests some woman for selling churros
Internet: FREAK THE HELL OUT!!!
NYPD: "kid! stop selling candy!"
Kid: resists
Internet: FREAK THE HELL OUT!!!
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spudger
11/14/19 10:32:03 AM
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are you okay?
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MisterPorn
11/14/19 10:46:52 AM
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Fair, Next. It illegal to sell food without a permit. That guy lucky he didn't get shot with all the resisting of arrest. Cops probably didn't want another viral murder video like the I cant breath guy.
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Antifar
11/14/19 10:48:53 AM
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Setting aside everything else, this level of enforcement is just wholly disproportionate to the actual harms being caused here.
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s0nicfan
11/14/19 10:53:14 AM
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Lebronwon posted...
Police said they had asked Byron Shark for his ID several times, but he refused. When the officers tried to arrest him for peddling the subway sweets on the northbound platform, they said he resisted, forcing them to bring him to the ground which is when witnesses started recording the incident. Shark has been arrested eight times since 2013, police said, for charges including criminal possession of a weapon, assault and menacing with a weapon.


Fair, next.

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spudger
11/14/19 10:53:16 AM
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Hairistotle posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...

reminder that this poster is 40 and loves jeanette mcurdy dan schneider shows

eeeeeehhhyikes!
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Machete
11/14/19 10:53:57 AM
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Shark is a cool last name
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Calwings
11/14/19 11:00:25 AM
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MisterPorn posted...
Fair, Next. It illegal to sell food without a permit.

Antifar posted...
this level of enforcement is just wholly disproportionate to the actual harms being caused here.

Both of these are true in this situation.

The guy broke the law and deserves to pay consequences for it (and for resisting) especially with his past criminal history. But at the same time, it does seem like the cops are enforcing these minor offenses too strongly. Fare evasion certainly isn't a crime worthy of having a gun pulled on you.
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Paragon21XX
11/14/19 11:00:40 AM
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Teenager? Fucker was 26 years old according to the article meaning this isn't some cute 10 year old with a lemonade stand situation.
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s0nicfan
11/14/19 11:05:51 AM
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Hairistotle posted...
That is where you are wrong. Because it is not "fair" to tackle a kid selling candy.


A 26 year old "kid" with a history of violent criminal offenses who was actively resisting arrest.

Unless you're talking some hypothetical kid that doesn't exist in the TC's story.

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Lebronwon
11/14/19 11:06:38 AM
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Paragon21XX posted...
Teenager? Fucker was 26 years old according to the article meaning this isn't some cute 10 year old with a lemonade stand situation.


I should mention when I copied article it didn't have his age. And title of this thread is based off the tweet and social media response. Everyone was calling the person a teenager. Probably would have been safer if I just said black guy...
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CableZL
11/14/19 11:08:02 AM
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NinjaWarrior455
11/14/19 11:21:14 AM
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s0nicfan posted...
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A 26 year old "kid" with a history of violent criminal offenses who was actively resisting arrest.

Unless you're talking some hypothetical kid that doesn't exist in the TC's story.

What does his past offenses have to do with the unjustified officer response?
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sLaCkEr408___RJ
11/14/19 11:22:51 AM
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s0nicfan posted...
Fair, next.


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The Admiral
11/14/19 11:25:49 AM
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NinjaWarrior455 posted...
s0nicfan posted...
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A 26 year old "kid" with a history of violent criminal offenses who was actively resisting arrest.

Unless you're talking some hypothetical kid that doesn't exist in the TC's story.

What does his past offenses have to do with the unjustified officer response?


What in that video was unjustified? Kid was breaking the law and resisting. The officers appear to be restraining him with the minimum amount of force needed.
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DundiesAward
11/14/19 11:35:27 AM
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The man's age shouldn't matter he shouldn't have been thrown to the ground for selling candy. People reacted the same to the old lady getting arrested for selling churros.
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sLaCkEr408___RJ
11/14/19 11:36:02 AM
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DundiesAward posted...
The man's age shouldn't matter he shouldn't have been thrown to the ground for selling candy. People reacted the same to the old lady getting arrested for selling churros.
I think dude was thrown to ground for resisting
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gatorsPENSbucs
11/14/19 11:43:20 AM
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Lebronwon posted...
forcing them to bring him to the ground which is when witnesses started recording the incident.

Why is it always this. But there should be cameras there right, so see legit what happened.
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NinjaWarrior455
11/14/19 11:43:58 AM
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The Admiral posted...
NinjaWarrior455 posted...
s0nicfan posted...
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A 26 year old "kid" with a history of violent criminal offenses who was actively resisting arrest.

Unless you're talking some hypothetical kid that doesn't exist in the TC's story.

What does his past offenses have to do with the unjustified officer response?


What in that video was unjustified? Kid was breaking the law and resisting. The officers appear to be restraining him with the minimum amount of force needed.

"Minimum amount of force" you say as 4 officers lay on top of him.
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The Admiral
11/14/19 12:13:48 PM
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NinjaWarrior455 posted...
The Admiral posted...
NinjaWarrior455 posted...
s0nicfan posted...
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A 26 year old "kid" with a history of violent criminal offenses who was actively resisting arrest.

Unless you're talking some hypothetical kid that doesn't exist in the TC's story.

What does his past offenses have to do with the unjustified officer response?


What in that video was unjustified? Kid was breaking the law and resisting. The officers appear to be restraining him with the minimum amount of force needed.

"Minimum amount of force" you say as 4 officers lay on top of him.


No one is laying on him. Looks like they're all standing and trying to handcuff a guy who's flailing his arms and legs in defiance of the police.
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Machete
11/14/19 12:42:21 PM
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Making post 30 because I can't see 29 and it's fucking up my active messages feature on my app
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SK8T3R215
11/14/19 12:54:43 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
Lebronwon posted...
Police said they had asked Byron Shark for his ID several times, but he refused. When the officers tried to arrest him for peddling the subway sweets on the northbound platform, they said he resisted, forcing them to bring him to the ground which is when witnesses started recording the incident. Shark has been arrested eight times since 2013, police said, for charges including criminal possession of a weapon, assault and menacing with a weapon.


Fair, next.

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EzeDoesIt
11/14/19 12:57:02 PM
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Antifar posted...
Setting aside everything else, this level of enforcement is just wholly disproportionate to the actual harms being caused here.


This.

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EzeDoesIt
11/14/19 12:58:33 PM
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Machete posted...
Making post 30 because I can't see 29 and it's fucking up my active messages feature on my app


Why would you block The_Admiral? Isnt he considered a paragon of objective truth and anti-racism?

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Machete
11/14/19 1:03:35 PM
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EzeDoesIt posted...
Machete posted...
Making post 30 because I can't see 29 and it's fucking up my active messages feature on my app


Why would you block The_Admiral? Isn?t he considered a paragon of objective truth and anti-racism?


I have never blocked anyone.
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EzeDoesIt
11/14/19 1:06:34 PM
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Machete posted...
I have never blocked anyone.


Well that doesnt make sense. He couldnt have blocked you, because he believes in free speech.

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Joeydollaz
11/14/19 1:10:21 PM
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If you never lived in NYC, you have no idea THIS IS A SCAM

they will make up a story "we are paying a basketball teams practice blah blah"

They use the money to BUY DRUGS for their parents or themselves.

btw that Candy They get it for free on food drives
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Machete
11/14/19 1:18:37 PM
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EzeDoesIt posted...
Machete posted...
I have never blocked anyone.


Well that doesn?t make sense. He couldn?t have blocked you, because he believes in free speech.


He probably did it by accident or his account had some kind of glitch.
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DirkDiggles
11/14/19 1:31:49 PM
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What kind of 26 year old sells candy in the subway?
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