Poll of the Day > Salmonella outbreak from ground break in six states

(+) Yeah! (+)

https://twitter.com/CDCgov/status/1190367929617076224

no brand or supplier had been identified however...
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y do u give a shit? i thought ur mom did all ur cooking and cleaning 4 u

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Saying "six states" without bothering to list the actual states is pretty much the definition of worthless information.
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ParanoidObsessive posted...

Saying "six states" without bothering to list the actual states is pretty much the definition of worthless information.

i know right? same with no brand! or supplier
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Good thing I have not bought or eaten beef at home in months.
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NightMareBunny posted...

ParanoidObsessive posted...

Saying "six states" without bothering to list the actual states is pretty much the definition of worthless information.

i know right? same with no brand! or supplier

Or putting ground break in the title

Fuck now salmonella has infected the very earth itself
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ParanoidObsessive posted...

Saying "six states" without bothering to list the actual states is pretty much the definition of worthless information.

LOL!

Well, from the rest of the article linked to in the Tweet, at least one of those states was California because... well, of course it was California.
https://www.cdc.gov/salmonella/dublin-11-19/index.html

So that's one state ID'd, five to go. (Granted, they might not list the states *because* they want people to be cautious and by labeling some, those in others might think themselves unaffected.)
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salmon+nutella
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Zeus posted...

ParanoidObsessive posted...

Saying "six states" without bothering to list the actual states is pretty much the definition of worthless information.

LOL!

Well, from the rest of the article linked to in the Tweet, at least one of those states was California because... well, of course it was California.
https://www.cdc.gov/salmonella/dublin-11-19/index.html

So that's one state ID'd, five to go. (Granted, they might not list the states *because* they want people to be cautious and by labeling some, those in others might think themselves unaffected.)

I think cooking the meat gets rid of the salmonilla though, so I guess they are pretty safe in CA right now.
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Zeus posted...

Granted, they might not list the states *because* they want people to be cautious and by labeling some, those in others might think themselves unaffected.

Yeah, but again, that makes the warning absolutely useless.

"Hey, you know that disease we've known about for at least a hundred years, that most people today have been warned about for most of their entire lives, that's never really stopped being a thing? Yeah, it's still a thing. And may or may not be in some food you may or may not buy in places you may or may not live, so, you know, keep acting like it's a thing, just like you already should have been ever since you first started interacting with food."

The general warning is useless because the general warning has already been a thing for decades, and saying the odds of getting it are slightly higher now is kind of meaningless because almost no one knows what the odds of getting it were in the first place. Whereas a more specific warning might be more useful because it could put people in high-risk areas on higher alert, but as is, most people won't change behavior at all because they'll assume the vagueness of the warning means it isn't all that important. Especially in a 24-7 news cycle where we've already moved on to the next story 15 minutes ago.



(The worst part is, they DO list the states where the cases were reported, if you're willing to tunnel down through multiple layers yourself. Which 99.9999% of people aren't going to do. So it's not like they have any real motivation to keep the states secret, they're just shitty at conveying pertinent info.)
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I always only wash my hands and Im never sick. Must be related.
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zebatov posted...

I always only wash my hands and Im never sick. Must be related.

What if your just immortal/invulnerable and can never get sick?
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wolfy42 posted...

zebatov posted...

I always only wash my hands and Im never sick. Must be related.

What if your just immortal/invulnerable and can never get sick?

~gasp~ He's clearly a Highlander!
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The thick, metal collar might not have given it away.
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Probably smart to ban all salmon as a cautionary measure
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Shit! I thought salmonella was creeping out of the soil and randomly pouncing on the unsuspecting.
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myghostisdead posted...

Shit! I thought salmonella was creeping out of the soil and randomly pouncing on the unsuspecting.

Same, like one of those diseases that's been trapped in ice for decades. All of America is covered in salmonella and we've just awoken it.
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Ground break?
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Krazy_Kirby posted...

salmon+nutella

Sounds both delicious and gross at the same time lol.
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Zeus posted...

Granted, they might not list the states *because* they want people to be cautious and by labeling some, those in others might think themselves unaffected.)

Exactly. It's a widespread thing and may very well not be limited to the states that it has currently popped up in. And by listing the states it may leave people thinking "Oh, we're safe. We don't live in those states." They want everyone to be extra careful. Even though forngrpind beef, that's what they recommend all the time anyway.


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZDUEilS5M4
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"If preparing ground beef, cook thoroughly to kill germs."

It's sad that people have to be told this.

Then again, I work with a guy who basically grills his steak until the outside changes color and the inside is still dripping red, so IDK.
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DiScOrD tHe LuNaTiC posted...

"If preparing ground beef, cook thoroughly to kill germs."

It's sad that people have to be told this.

Then again, I work with a guy who basically grills his steak until the outside changes color and the inside is still dripping red, so IDK.

Steak and ground beef are two entirely different things.
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SunWuKung420 posted...

DiScOrD tHe LuNaTiC posted...

"If preparing ground beef, cook thoroughly to kill germs."

It's sad that people have to be told this.

Then again, I work with a guy who basically grills his steak until the outside changes color and the inside is still dripping red, so IDK.

Steak and ground beef are two entirely different things.

The cooking problem remains.

If you don't cook something until it's done, you might get sick from it being contaminated. That's not a problem exclusive to beef.
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DiScOrD tHe LuNaTiC posted...

SunWuKung420 posted...

DiScOrD tHe LuNaTiC posted...

"If preparing ground beef, cook thoroughly to kill germs."

It's sad that people have to be told this.

Then again, I work with a guy who basically grills his steak until the outside changes color and the inside is still dripping red, so IDK.

Steak and ground beef are two entirely different things.

The cooking problem remains.

If you don't cook something until it's done, you might get sick from it being contaminated. That's not a problem exclusive to beef.

A steak will only have contaminates on the exterior. Ground beef can have the contaminates throughout.
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SunWuKung420 posted...

A steak will only have contaminates on the exterior. Ground beef can have the contaminates throughout.

Youve come a long way from a couple months ago when you were insisting someone could only get ecoli from beef if they didnt wash their own hands after doing a poop
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Mead posted...

SunWuKung420 posted...
A steak will only have contaminates on the exterior. Ground beef can have the contaminates throughout.

Youve come a long way from a couple months ago when you were insisting someone could only get ecoli from beef if they didnt wash their own hands after doing a poop

E.coli and salmonella are two entirely different things. You can give yourself e.coli, you can't give yourself salmonella.

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SunWuKung420 posted...

Mead posted...

SunWuKung420 posted...
A steak will only have contaminates on the exterior. Ground beef can have the contaminates throughout.

Youve come a long way from a couple months ago when you were insisting someone could only get ecoli from beef if they didnt wash their own hands after doing a poop

E.coli and salmonella are two entirely different things. You can give yourself e.coli, you can't give yourself salmonella.

You can if youre a chicken

Youd know that if you were truly woke and not bigoted towards poultry culture
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Zeus posted...

ParanoidObsessive posted...

Saying "six states" without bothering to list the actual states is pretty much the definition of worthless information.

LOL!

Well, from the rest of the article linked to in the Tweet, at least one of those states was California because... well, of course it was California.
https://www.cdc.gov/salmonella/dublin-11-19/index.html

So that's one state ID'd, five to go. (Granted, they might not list the states *because* they want people to be cautious and by labeling some, those in others might think themselves unaffected.)

Yea of course the state that produces as much beef as half of the rest of the US would be affected.
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DiScOrD tHe LuNaTiC posted...

The cooking problem remains.

If you don't cook something until it's done, you might get sick from it being contaminated. That's not a problem exclusive to beef.

Untrue. Different meats require different internal temps when cooked to be safe. Steak is one of the lowest needed (so you can get it rare and be fine), while stuff like chicken is the highest. And other stuff falls somewhere in the middle, like ground beef

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All states are listed here but more will probably be affected.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2019/11/03/salmonella-outbreak-linked-ground-beef-hits-six-states/4149012002/
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attack of the salmonella!
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SunWuKung420 posted...

DiScOrD tHe LuNaTiC posted...

SunWuKung420 posted...

DiScOrD tHe LuNaTiC posted...

"If preparing ground beef, cook thoroughly to kill germs."

It's sad that people have to be told this.

Then again, I work with a guy who basically grills his steak until the outside changes color and the inside is still dripping red, so IDK.

Steak and ground beef are two entirely different things.

The cooking problem remains.

If you don't cook something until it's done, you might get sick from it being contaminated. That's not a problem exclusive to beef.

A steak will only have contaminates on the exterior. Ground beef can have the contaminates throughout.

Indeed. Unless you've ground it yourself, you always want to cook ground meat to 165, especially given the potential to have it contaminated with cerebrospinal fluid if the butcher's careless working around the spine (this is why ground beef is one of the biggest concerns during Mad Cow outbreaks). Steaks, on the other hand, are going to be safe inside, so you can have them rarer without as much consequence.

NightMareBunny posted...

attack of the salmonella!

You can just say bump dude

Its ok
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nesspoojeff posted...

Zeus posted...

ParanoidObsessive posted...

Saying "six states" without bothering to list the actual states is pretty much the definition of worthless information.

LOL!

Well, from the rest of the article linked to in the Tweet, at least one of those states was California because... well, of course it was California.
https://www.cdc.gov/salmonella/dublin-11-19/index.html

So that's one state ID'd, five to go. (Granted, they might not list the states *because* they want people to be cautious and by labeling some, those in others might think themselves unaffected.)

Yea of course the state that produces as much beef as half of the rest of the US would be affected.

You mean Texas? But we're talking about California! California isn't even in the top 10.

https://beef2live.com/story-ranking-states-beef-cows-0-108181
https://www.drovers.com/article/cattle-inventory-ranking-all-50-states
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Mead posted...

NightMareBunny posted...

attack of the salmonella!

You can just say bump dude

Its ok

Got im
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_AdjI_ posted...

Indeed. Unless you've ground it yourself, you always want to cook ground meat to 165, especially given the potential to have it contaminated with cerebrospinal fluid if the butcher's careless working around the spine (this is why ground beef is one of the biggest concerns during Mad Cow outbreaks).

Unfortunately, the prions that cause "Mad Cow" are not affected by cooking. Prions are rather tough proteins and the only way to render them inert would be to incinerate the meat, which is not good eats.

And it doesn't matter who grinds it, you still need to cook ground beef thoroughly. That's because when you grind meat, any bacteria which were on the outside will now be mixed in with the inside.
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Prions are scary shit
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