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OctilIery 10/24/19 7:02:23 PM #154:	Knowledge_King posted... Damn, sucks for the father. Gotta throw away the whole kid. Yeah, sucks that he's a bigot. <cite>OctilIery posted [p:929196990] in Texas jury... [t:78108026]...</cite> <quote>Knowledge_King posted...</cite> <quote>Damn, sucks for the father. Gotta throw away the whole kid.</quote> Yeah, sucks that he's a bigot.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MudKip_Master 10/24/19 7:03:54 PM #155:	Wow only 7 years old?? <cite>MudKip_Master posted [p:929197052] in Texas jury... [t:78108026]...</cite> <quote>Wow only 7 years old??</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gobstoppers12 10/24/19 7:05:50 PM #156:	OctilIery posted... The chance is no greater than that they'd have said it then. Are you suggesting that doctors in 2019 are equally as likely as doctors in 1997 to suggest that a child is transgender? Because I'm at least 99% sure that's false. --- I write Naruto Fanfiction. <cite>Gobstoppers12 posted [p:929197132] in Texas jury... [t:78108026]...</cite> <quote>OctilIery posted...</cite> <quote> The chance is no greater than that they'd have said it then.</quote> Are you suggesting that doctors in 2019 are equally as likely as doctors in 1997 to suggest that a child is transgender? Because I'm at least 99% sure that's false.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WashYourHands 10/24/19 7:06:22 PM #157:	They know hes trans 7 years old Can someone pinch me already --- Pay yourself before any bills, savings is paramount but often forgotten <cite>WashYourHands posted [p:929197157] in Texas jury... [t:78108026]...</cite> <quote>They know hes trans 7 years old Can someone pinch me already</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gamerguymass 10/24/19 7:07:49 PM #158:	The usuals on CE don't really surprise me anymore. 14 year old that has already gone through puberty? You are to young and immature to decide if you want to have sex because the brain isn't fully developed yet. 7 year old boy dresses like a girl? Obviously he is trans and is fully capable of making long term decisions that will effect his physical and mental well being for the rest of his life. --- Now Playing: "The Hunt for the Two Missing Nintendo 64 Games" An expansion came out, but I'm still a third of the way through! <cite>Gamerguymass posted [p:929197217] in Texas jury... [t:78108026]...</cite> <quote>The usuals on CE don't really surprise me anymore. 14 year old that has already gone through puberty? You are to young and immature to decide if you want to have sex because the brain isn't fully developed yet. 7 year old boy dresses like a girl? Obviously he is trans and is fully capable of making long term decisions that will effect his physical and mental well being for the rest of his life.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 10/24/19 7:08:57 PM #159:	Sirfetchd posted... Tyranthraxus posted... There's no real harm in going on puberty blockers to give kids more time to make a decision. The results of transgendered adults who had properly supportive parents at a young age are pretty amazing not just in looks but also mental wellbeing. More time? Hes 7 why not wait for him to make it himself when hes an ADULT Remember when you had no idea what gender you were until you were an adult? Did you never understand the concept of physical or mental discomfort until adulthood? --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:929197274] in Texas jury... [t:78108026]...</cite> <quote>Sirfetchd posted...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote>There's no real harm in going on puberty blockers to give kids more time to make a decision. The results of transgendered adults who had properly supportive parents at a young age are pretty amazing not just in looks but also mental wellbeing. </quote> More time? Hes 7 why not wait for him to make it himself when hes an ADULT</quote> Remember when you had no idea what gender you were until you were an adult? Did you never understand the concept of physical or mental discomfort until adulthood?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BillyKidd 10/24/19 7:10:17 PM #160:	https://twitter.com/QuestionLGBTedu/status/1187441205971431424 The kid literally cries at his dad's house because his mother forces him to wear dresses and be called Luna. There are other videos of him again saying he's a boy, but they were his father filming him. --- Tho I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I shall fear no evil. For I'm the meanest mofo in the whole f'n valley <cite>BillyKidd posted [p:929197323] in Texas jury... [t:78108026]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/QuestionLGBTedu/status/1187441205971431424 The kid literally cries at his dad's house because his mother forces him to wear dresses and be called Luna. There are other videos of him again saying he's a boy, but they were his father filming him.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
viewmaster_pi 10/24/19 7:10:17 PM #161:	OctilIery posted... You're completely wrong, just like the dad. According to who? The mom? The jury? The seven-year-old? Some random person on a dying video game websight? --- - Sent from my DynaTAC 8000X <cite>viewmaster_pi posted [p:929197324] in Texas jury... [t:78108026]...</cite> <quote>OctilIery posted... </cite> <quote>You're completely wrong, just like the dad.</quote>According to who? The mom? The jury? The seven-year-old? Some random person on a dying video game websight? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 10/24/19 7:11:04 PM #162:	Gobstoppers12 posted... When I was 7, I said and did a lot of gender neutral/exploratory things. I'd ask to be princess Leia while acting out Star Wars in the front yard. I went through a whole phase while playing with my brother and my friends where I was more interested in playing the role of a female character (even in situations where we were just playing a random sci-fi setting with no established characters). If one of the doctors/psychologists of today had caught wind of that, there's a greater-than-zero chance that they would have told my parents that I was transgender. Thank fuck that didn't happen, because at that age, I might have thought they were right. That's not how it works. Did you express an active desire to be addressed as a girl outside of play time? --- https://i.imgtc.ws/x2KBsjI.png <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:929197361] in Texas jury... [t:78108026]...</cite> <quote>Gobstoppers12 posted...</cite> <quote>When I was 7, I said and did a lot of gender neutral/exploratory things. I'd ask to be princess Leia while acting out Star Wars in the front yard. I went through a whole phase while playing with my brother and my friends where I was more interested in playing the role of a female character (even in situations where we were just playing a random sci-fi setting with no established characters). If one of the doctors/psychologists of today had caught wind of that, there's a greater-than-zero chance that they would have told my parents that I was transgender. Thank fuck that didn't happen, because at that age, I might have thought they were right.</quote> That's not how it works. Did you express an active desire to be addressed as a girl outside of play time?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 10/24/19 7:12:54 PM #163:	Also, every post that refers to her as a boy or by her given name at birth should be moddee for transphobia. BRB being the change I want to see in the world. --- https://i.imgtc.ws/x2KBsjI.png <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:929197429] in Texas jury... [t:78108026]...</cite> <quote>Also, every post that refers to her as a boy or by her given name at birth should be moddee for transphobia. BRB being the change I want to see in the world.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
viewmaster_pi 10/24/19 7:12:58 PM #164:	BillyKidd posted... https://twitter.com/QuestionLGBTedu/status/1187441205971431424 The kid literally cries at his dad's house because his mother forces him to wear dresses and be called Luna. There are other videos of him again saying he's a boy, but they were his father filming him. The usual suspects will ignore this, though :/ --- - Sent from my DynaTAC 8000X <cite>viewmaster_pi posted [p:929197433] in Texas jury... [t:78108026]...</cite> <quote>BillyKidd posted... </cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/QuestionLGBTedu/status/1187441205971431424 The kid literally cries at his dad's house because his mother forces him to wear dresses and be called Luna. There are other videos of him again saying he's a boy, but they were his father filming him.</quote>The usual suspects will ignore this, though :/ </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gobstoppers12 10/24/19 7:13:58 PM #165:	viewmaster_pi posted... OctilIery posted... You're completely wrong, just like the dad. According to who? The mom? The jury? The seven-year-old? Some random person on a dying video game websight? Octillery is one of those militanlyt-aggressive activists, and is fully committed to the most extreme possible conclusions on this issue. It's best not to take them seriously. --- I write Naruto Fanfiction. <cite>Gobstoppers12 posted [p:929197472] in Texas jury... [t:78108026]...</cite> <quote>viewmaster_pi posted...</cite> <quote>OctilIery posted... </cite> <quote>You're completely wrong, just like the dad.</quote>According to who? The mom? The jury? The seven-year-old? Some random person on a dying video game websight? </quote> Octillery is one of those militanlyt-aggressive activists, and is fully committed to the most extreme possible conclusions on this issue. It's best not to take them seriously.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
viewmaster_pi 10/24/19 7:14:44 PM #166:	gunplagirl posted... Also, every post that refers to her as a boy or by her given name at birth should be moddee for transphobia. BRB being the change I want to see in the world. lol, wow --- - Sent from my DynaTAC 8000X <cite>viewmaster_pi posted [p:929197504] in Texas jury... [t:78108026]...</cite> <quote>gunplagirl posted... </cite> <quote>Also, every post that refers to her as a boy or by her given name at birth should be moddee for transphobia. BRB being the change I want to see in the world.</quote>lol, wow </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gobstoppers12 10/24/19 7:15:10 PM #167:	gunplagirl posted... That's not how it works. Did you express an active desire to be addressed as a girl outside of play time? No. James did say this, though: https://twitter.com/QuestionLGBTedu/status/1187441205971431424 --- I write Naruto Fanfiction. <cite>Gobstoppers12 posted [p:929197520] in Texas jury... [t:78108026]...</cite> <quote>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote> That's not how it works. Did you express an active desire to be addressed as a girl outside of play time?</quote> No. James did say this, though: https://twitter.com/QuestionLGBTedu/status/1187441205971431424</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 10/24/19 7:16:02 PM #168:	gunplagirl posted... Gobstoppers12 posted... When I was 7, I said and did a lot of gender neutral/exploratory things. I'd ask to be princess Leia while acting out Star Wars in the front yard. I went through a whole phase while playing with my brother and my friends where I was more interested in playing the role of a female character (even in situations where we were just playing a random sci-fi setting with no established characters). If one of the doctors/psychologists of today had caught wind of that, there's a greater-than-zero chance that they would have told my parents that I was transgender. Thank fuck that didn't happen, because at that age, I might have thought they were right. That's not how it works. Did you express an active desire to be addressed as a girl outside of play time? Do you really think doctors know what they're doing better than Gobstoppers12? Clearly all those doctors that don't ignore trans people until they turn 18 are just crazy liberals pushing an agenda against all logic and medical ethics. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:929197556] in Texas jury... [t:78108026]...</cite> <quote>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote>Gobstoppers12 posted...</cite> <quote>When I was 7, I said and did a lot of gender neutral/exploratory things. I'd ask to be princess Leia while acting out Star Wars in the front yard. I went through a whole phase while playing with my brother and my friends where I was more interested in playing the role of a female character (even in situations where we were just playing a random sci-fi setting with no established characters). If one of the doctors/psychologists of today had caught wind of that, there's a greater-than-zero chance that they would have told my parents that I was transgender. Thank fuck that didn't happen, because at that age, I might have thought they were right.</quote> That's not how it works. Did you express an active desire to be addressed as a girl outside of play time?</quote> Do you really think doctors know what they're doing better than Gobstoppers12? Clearly all those doctors that don't ignore trans people until they turn 18 are just crazy liberals pushing an agenda against all logic and medical ethics.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PleaseClap 10/24/19 7:16:16 PM #169:	Thats one heck of a twitter handle --- she/her https://imgur.com/AmWcJjM <cite>PleaseClap posted [p:929197565] in Texas jury... [t:78108026]...</cite> <quote>Thats one heck of a twitter handle</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KillerSlaw 10/24/19 7:17:32 PM #170:	viewmaster_pi posted... BillyKidd posted... https://twitter.com/QuestionLGBTedu/status/1187441205971431424 The kid literally cries at his dad's house because his mother forces him to wear dresses and be called Luna. There are other videos of him again saying he's a boy, but they were his father filming him. The usual suspects will ignore this, though :/ Not only ignore it, they flat out modded my post talking about it because I didn't have a source, --- "Wait a minute...If I ever get a hold of you, I will thank you for showing me the futility of human endeavor." <cite>KillerSlaw posted [p:929197627] in Texas jury... [t:78108026]...</cite> <quote>viewmaster_pi posted...</cite> <quote>BillyKidd posted... </cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/QuestionLGBTedu/status/1187441205971431424 The kid literally cries at his dad's house because his mother forces him to wear dresses and be called Luna. There are other videos of him again saying he's a boy, but they were his father filming him.</quote>The usual suspects will ignore this, though :/ </quote> Not only ignore it, they flat out modded my post talking about it because I didn't have a source,</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 10/24/19 7:18:06 PM #171:	BillyKidd posted... https://twitter.com/QuestionLGBTedu/status/1187441205971431424 The kid literally cries at his dad's house because his mother forces him to wear dresses and be called Luna. There are other videos of him again saying he's a boy, but they were his father filming him. It's okay - CPS doesn't care about these videos, so we shouldn't, either. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:929197651] in Texas jury... [t:78108026]...</cite> <quote>BillyKidd posted...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/QuestionLGBTedu/status/1187441205971431424 The kid literally cries at his dad's house because his mother forces him to wear dresses and be called Luna. There are other videos of him again saying he's a boy, but they were his father filming him.</quote> It's okay - CPS doesn't care about these videos, so we shouldn't, either.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gobstoppers12 10/24/19 7:20:34 PM #172:	PleaseClap posted... Thats one heck of a twitter handle Forget the source, focus on the hard evidence. It's kinda unsettling to me how people in this topic are using this situation as a means to advance political messaging. Especially posts like gunplagirl's saying "every post that refers to her as a boy or by her given name at birth should be moddee for transphobia" Myself, and others like me, are saying "Maybe it's too early in life to be putting this kind of pressure on a 7 year old kid, and maybe doctors don't always get things right. Shouldn't we be careful with stuff like this?" People like gunpla immediately accuse us of transphobia and ask for our opinions to be silenced. Based on saying the equivalent of "Wait, maybe we shouldn't be pumping children full of hormone blockers?" --- I write Naruto Fanfiction. <cite>Gobstoppers12 posted [p:929197747] in Texas jury... [t:78108026]...</cite> <quote>PleaseClap posted...</cite> <quote>Thats one heck of a twitter handle</quote> Forget the source, focus on the hard evidence. It's kinda unsettling to me how people in this topic are using this situation as a means to advance political messaging. Especially posts like gunplagirl's saying "every post that refers to her as a boy or by her given name at birth should be moddee for transphobia" Myself, and others like me, are saying "Maybe it's too early in life to be putting this kind of pressure on a 7 year old kid, and maybe doctors don't always get things right. Shouldn't we be careful with stuff like this?" People like gunpla immediately accuse us of transphobia and ask for our opinions to be silenced. Based on saying the equivalent of "Wait, maybe we shouldn't be pumping children full of hormone blockers?"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
viewmaster_pi 10/24/19 7:21:21 PM #173:	KillerSlaw posted... Not only ignore it, they flat out modded my post talking about it because I didn't have a source, Some of the mods are the usual suspects, tbh. They're looking for shit to get you for, even if it's just discussion about the article. They'll twist it and say "it's extremely offensive to suggest the mother groomed her child to be trans" You're just supposed to smile and nod. --- - Sent from my DynaTAC 8000X <cite>viewmaster_pi posted [p:929197781] in Texas jury... [t:78108026]...</cite> <quote>KillerSlaw posted... </cite> <quote>Not only ignore it, they flat out modded my post talking about it because I didn't have a source,</quote>Some of the mods are the usual suspects, tbh. They're looking for shit to get you for, even if it's just discussion about the article. They'll twist it and say "it's extremely offensive to suggest the mother groomed her child to be trans" You're just supposed to smile and nod. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sirfetchd 10/24/19 7:25:07 PM #174:	gunplagirl posted... Also, every post that refers to her as a boy or by her given name at birth should be moddee for transphobia. BRB being the change I want to see in the world. He is a 7 year old boy named James. I'm sorry but you cant win this one gunplagirl --- *HONK* <cite>Sirfetchd posted [p:929197935] in Texas jury... [t:78108026]...</cite> <quote>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote>Also, every post that refers to her as a boy or by her given name at birth should be moddee for transphobia. BRB being the change I want to see in the world.</quote> He is a 7 year old boy named James. I'm sorry but you cant win this one gunplagirl</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KillerSlaw 10/24/19 7:26:45 PM #175:	viewmaster_pi posted... KillerSlaw posted... Not only ignore it, they flat out modded my post talking about it because I didn't have a source, Some of the mods are the usual suspects, tbh. They're looking for shit to get you for, even if it's just discussion about the article. They'll twist it and say "it's extremely offensive to suggest the mother groomed her child to be trans" You're just supposed to smile and nod. I mean it was just a deletion so I just accepted it, it's just I've never seen "you don't have a source for this thing you clearly said you saw on twitter and was a rumor" as a reason for a deletion before. --- "Wait a minute...If I ever get a hold of you, I will thank you for showing me the futility of human endeavor." <cite>KillerSlaw posted [p:929197997] in Texas jury... [t:78108026]...</cite> <quote>viewmaster_pi posted...</cite> <quote>KillerSlaw posted... </cite> <quote>Not only ignore it, they flat out modded my post talking about it because I didn't have a source,</quote>Some of the mods are the usual suspects, tbh. They're looking for shit to get you for, even if it's just discussion about the article. They'll twist it and say "it's extremely offensive to suggest the mother groomed her child to be trans" You're just supposed to smile and nod. </quote> I mean it was just a deletion so I just accepted it, it's just I've never seen "you don't have a source for this thing you clearly said you saw on twitter and was a rumor" as a reason for a deletion before.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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viewmaster_pi 10/24/19 7:28:47 PM #177:	KillerSlaw posted... I mean it was just a deletion so I just accepted it, it's just I've never seen "you don't have a source for this thing you clearly said you saw on twitter and was a rumor" as a reason for a deletion before. They'll pull out any bullshit off the cuff to try and gaslight you into thinking you did something way worse than you really did. It's honestly pretty gross. --- - Sent from my DynaTAC 8000X <cite>viewmaster_pi posted [p:929198082] in Texas jury... [t:78108026]...</cite> <quote>KillerSlaw posted... </cite> <quote>I mean it was just a deletion so I just accepted it, it's just I've never seen "you don't have a source for this thing you clearly said you saw on twitter and was a rumor" as a reason for a deletion before.</quote>They'll pull out any bullshit off the cuff to try and gaslight you into thinking you did something way worse than you really did. It's honestly pretty gross. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 10/24/19 7:29:31 PM #178:	viewmaster_pi posted... KillerSlaw posted... I mean it was just a deletion so I just accepted it, it's just I've never seen "you don't have a source for this thing you clearly said you saw on twitter and was a rumor" as a reason for a deletion before. They'll pull out any bullshit off the cuff to try and gaslight you into thinking you did something way worse than you really did. It's honestly pretty gross. You can't even discuss timing adjustments on a car. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:929198114] in Texas jury... [t:78108026]...</cite> <quote>viewmaster_pi posted...</cite> <quote>KillerSlaw posted... </cite> <quote>I mean it was just a deletion so I just accepted it, it's just I've never seen "you don't have a source for this thing you clearly said you saw on twitter and was a rumor" as a reason for a deletion before.</quote>They'll pull out any bullshit off the cuff to try and gaslight you into thinking you did something way worse than you really did. It's honestly pretty gross. </quote> You can't even discuss timing adjustments on a car.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gobstoppers12 10/24/19 7:30:40 PM #179:	shockthemonkey posted... Since there is conflicting reports, how about the child is evaluated by imperial professionals and, at most, given puberty blockers while more information can be gathered? How about we abstain from giving the child any life-altering non-essential drugs until the matter is settled completely? --- I write Naruto Fanfiction. <cite>Gobstoppers12 posted [p:929198165] in Texas jury... [t:78108026]...</cite> <quote>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>Since there is conflicting reports, how about the child is evaluated by imperial professionals and, at most, given puberty blockers while more information can be gathered?</quote> How about we abstain from giving the child any life-altering non-essential drugs until the matter is settled completely?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 10/24/19 7:30:40 PM #180:	Gobstoppers12 posted... PleaseClap posted... Thats one heck of a twitter handle Forget the source, focus on the hard evidence. It's kinda unsettling to me how people in this topic are definitely using this child as a means to advance political messaging. Especially posts like gunplagirl's saying "every post that refers to her as a boy or by her given name at birth should be moddee for transphobia" That's basically a firm admission that you don't actually care about the child and are only using this situation as an opportunity to spout rhetoric. Myself, and others like me, are saying "Maybe it's too early in life to be putting this kind of pressure on a 7 year old kid, and maybe doctors don't always get things right. Shouldn't we be careful with stuff like this?" People like gunpla immediately accuse us of transphobia and ask for our opinions to be silenced. Based on saying the equivalent of "Wait, maybe we shouldn't be pumping children full of hormone blockers?" If we only we had experts who we could ask those questions to, who could then recommend solutions designed to generally help people in medical or mental distress. Or we be weird conspiracy theorists and assume everything we feel icky about is a concentrated, malicious political agenda. People vehemently against gender transition don't really sound much different than a lot of anti-vaxxers or alt medicine whackos. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:929198166] in Texas jury... [t:78108026]...</cite> <quote>Gobstoppers12 posted...</cite> <quote>PleaseClap posted...</cite> <quote>Thats one heck of a twitter handle</quote> Forget the source, focus on the hard evidence. It's kinda unsettling to me how people in this topic are definitely using this child as a means to advance political messaging. Especially posts like gunplagirl's saying "every post that refers to her as a boy or by her given name at birth should be moddee for transphobia" That's basically a firm admission that you don't actually care about the child and are only using this situation as an opportunity to spout rhetoric. Myself, and others like me, are saying "Maybe it's too early in life to be putting this kind of pressure on a 7 year old kid, and maybe doctors don't always get things right. Shouldn't we be careful with stuff like this?" People like gunpla immediately accuse us of transphobia and ask for our opinions to be silenced. Based on saying the equivalent of "Wait, maybe we shouldn't be pumping children full of hormone blockers?"</quote> If we only we had experts who we could ask those questions to, who could then recommend solutions designed to generally help people in medical or mental distress. Or we be weird conspiracy theorists and assume everything we feel icky about is a concentrated, malicious political agenda. People vehemently against gender transition don't really sound much different than a lot of anti-vaxxers or alt medicine whackos.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PleaseClap 10/24/19 7:31:40 PM #181:	darkjedilink posted... viewmaster_pi posted... KillerSlaw posted... I mean it was just a deletion so I just accepted it, it's just I've never seen "you don't have a source for this thing you clearly said you saw on twitter and was a rumor" as a reason for a deletion before. They'll pull out any bullshit off the cuff to try and gaslight you into thinking you did something way worse than you really did. It's honestly pretty gross. You can't even discuss timing adjustments on a car. Its absurd that the mods wont let me discussion my stick gathering business anymore! --- she/her https://imgur.com/AmWcJjM <cite>PleaseClap posted [p:929198211] in Texas jury... [t:78108026]...</cite> <quote>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>viewmaster_pi posted...</cite> <quote>KillerSlaw posted... </cite> <quote>I mean it was just a deletion so I just accepted it, it's just I've never seen "you don't have a source for this thing you clearly said you saw on twitter and was a rumor" as a reason for a deletion before.</quote>They'll pull out any bullshit off the cuff to try and gaslight you into thinking you did something way worse than you really did. It's honestly pretty gross. </quote> You can't even discuss timing adjustments on a car.</quote> Its absurd that the mods wont let me discussion my stick gathering business anymore!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gobstoppers12 10/24/19 7:32:21 PM #182:	hockeybub89 posted... If we only we had experts who we could ask those questions to, who could then recommend solutions designed to generally help people in medical or mental distress. The same experts who apparently think James is a girl and should be medically altered to be more like a female? James himself says this: https://twitter.com/QuestionLGBTedu/status/1187441205971431424 --- I write Naruto Fanfiction. <cite>Gobstoppers12 posted [p:929198242] in Texas jury... [t:78108026]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote> If we only we had experts who we could ask those questions to, who could then recommend solutions designed to generally help people in medical or mental distress.</quote> The same experts who apparently think James is a girl and should be medically altered to be more like a female? James himself says this: https://twitter.com/QuestionLGBTedu/status/1187441205971431424</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 10/24/19 7:32:27 PM #183:	Gobstoppers12 posted... shockthemonkey posted... Since there is conflicting reports, how about the child is evaluated by imperial professionals and, at most, given puberty blockers while more information can be gathered? How about we abstain from giving the child any life-altering non-essential drugs until the matter is settled completely? If a child complains of a headache, should we hold off on treating it for as long as possible? Hopefully when they turn 18? --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:929198245] in Texas jury... [t:78108026]...</cite> <quote>Gobstoppers12 posted...</cite> <quote>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>Since there is conflicting reports, how about the child is evaluated by imperial professionals and, at most, given puberty blockers while more information can be gathered?</quote> How about we abstain from giving the child any life-altering non-essential drugs until the matter is settled completely?</quote> If a child complains of a headache, should we hold off on treating it for as long as possible? Hopefully when they turn 18?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
viewmaster_pi 10/24/19 7:32:28 PM #184:	I have a clean history atm, but I won't be surprised if I'm warned by the end of the night. It's just how it works with this subject. You have a conflicting opinion? You're the bad guy, you're on the wrong team, you're going to be censored unless you just click `Topic List` --- - Sent from my DynaTAC 8000X <cite>viewmaster_pi posted [p:929198247] in Texas jury... [t:78108026]...</cite> <quote>I have a clean history atm, but I won't be surprised if I'm warned by the end of the night. It's just how it works with this subject. You have a conflicting opinion? You're the bad guy, you're on the wrong team, you're going to be censored unless you just click Topic List </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 10/24/19 7:32:47 PM #185:	hockeybub89 posted... Gobstoppers12 posted... PleaseClap posted... Thats one heck of a twitter handle Forget the source, focus on the hard evidence. It's kinda unsettling to me how people in this topic are definitely using this child as a means to advance political messaging. Especially posts like gunplagirl's saying "every post that refers to her as a boy or by her given name at birth should be moddee for transphobia" That's basically a firm admission that you don't actually care about the child and are only using this situation as an opportunity to spout rhetoric. Myself, and others like me, are saying "Maybe it's too early in life to be putting this kind of pressure on a 7 year old kid, and maybe doctors don't always get things right. Shouldn't we be careful with stuff like this?" People like gunpla immediately accuse us of transphobia and ask for our opinions to be silenced. Based on saying the equivalent of "Wait, maybe we shouldn't be pumping children full of hormone blockers?" If we only we had experts who we could ask those questions to, who could then recommend solutions designed to generally help people in medical or mental distress. Or we be weird conspiracy theorists and assume everything we feel icky about is a concentrated, malicious political agenda. People vehemently against gender transition don't really sound much different than a lot of anti-vaxxers or alt medicine whackos. You mean, like watering down legitimate scientific discoveries about DNA and sexuality because it goes against the LGBTQIAA+ narrative that gender and sexuality is something you're born with? --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:929198259] in Texas jury... [t:78108026]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>Gobstoppers12 posted...</cite> <quote>PleaseClap posted...</cite> <quote>Thats one heck of a twitter handle</quote> Forget the source, focus on the hard evidence. It's kinda unsettling to me how people in this topic are definitely using this child as a means to advance political messaging. Especially posts like gunplagirl's saying "every post that refers to her as a boy or by her given name at birth should be moddee for transphobia" That's basically a firm admission that you don't actually care about the child and are only using this situation as an opportunity to spout rhetoric. Myself, and others like me, are saying "Maybe it's too early in life to be putting this kind of pressure on a 7 year old kid, and maybe doctors don't always get things right. Shouldn't we be careful with stuff like this?" People like gunpla immediately accuse us of transphobia and ask for our opinions to be silenced. Based on saying the equivalent of "Wait, maybe we shouldn't be pumping children full of hormone blockers?"</quote> If we only we had experts who we could ask those questions to, who could then recommend solutions designed to generally help people in medical or mental distress. Or we be weird conspiracy theorists and assume everything we feel icky about is a concentrated, malicious political agenda. People vehemently against gender transition don't really sound much different than a lot of anti-vaxxers or alt medicine whackos.</quote> You mean, like watering down legitimate scientific discoveries about DNA and sexuality because it goes against the LGBTQIAA+ narrative that gender and sexuality is something you're born with?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 10/24/19 7:33:37 PM #186:	hockeybub89 posted... Gobstoppers12 posted... shockthemonkey posted... Since there is conflicting reports, how about the child is evaluated by imperial professionals and, at most, given puberty blockers while more information can be gathered? How about we abstain from giving the child any life-altering non-essential drugs until the matter is settled completely? If a child complains of a headache, should we hold off on treating it for as long as possible? Hopefully when they turn 18? Depends - is puberty a cure that's proven effective in no less than 2/3 of all cases? Will treating them now result in absolutely no improvement in quality of life whatsoever? --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:929198300] in Texas jury... [t:78108026]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>Gobstoppers12 posted...</cite> <quote>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>Since there is conflicting reports, how about the child is evaluated by imperial professionals and, at most, given puberty blockers while more information can be gathered?</quote> How about we abstain from giving the child any life-altering non-essential drugs until the matter is settled completely?</quote> If a child complains of a headache, should we hold off on treating it for as long as possible? Hopefully when they turn 18?</quote> Depends - is puberty a cure that's proven effective in no less than 2/3 of all cases? Will treating them now result in absolutely no improvement in quality of life whatsoever?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gobstoppers12 10/24/19 7:34:43 PM #187:	viewmaster_pi posted... I have a clean history atm, but I won't be surprised if I'm warned by the end of the night. It's just how it works with this subject. You have a conflicting opinion? You're the bad guy, you're on the wrong team, you're going to be censored unless you just click `Topic List` Same, but my history isn't clean. I end up getting passionate about this subject, and the mods really take issue with people who don't agree with their specific political views on the matter. --- I write Naruto Fanfiction. <cite>Gobstoppers12 posted [p:929198336] in Texas jury... [t:78108026]...</cite> <quote>viewmaster_pi posted...</cite> <quote>I have a clean history atm, but I won't be surprised if I'm warned by the end of the night. It's just how it works with this subject. You have a conflicting opinion? You're the bad guy, you're on the wrong team, you're going to be censored unless you just click Topic List </quote> Same, but my history isn't clean. I end up getting passionate about this subject, and the mods really take issue with people who don't agree with their specific political views on the matter.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
viewmaster_pi 10/24/19 7:35:32 PM #188:	hockeybub89 posted... If a child complains of a headache, should we hold off on treating it for as long as possible? That kind of comparison to something medically trivial like a headache isn't helpful for your argument. --- - Sent from my DynaTAC 8000X <cite>viewmaster_pi posted [p:929198369] in Texas jury... [t:78108026]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite> <quote>If a child complains of a headache, should we hold off on treating it for as long as possible?</quote>That kind of comparison to something medically trivial like a headache isn't helpful for your argument. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vicious_Dios 10/24/19 7:39:13 PM #189:	Jesus FUCK, that's no way to raise a kid. --- S / K / Y / N / E Twitch/YouTube/GT: *Adzeta* <cite>Vicious_Dios posted [p:929198507] in Texas jury... [t:78108026]...</cite> <quote>Jesus FUCK, that's no way to raise a kid. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OctilIery 10/24/19 7:43:10 PM #190:	Gobstoppers12 posted... OctilIery posted... The chance is no greater than that they'd have said it then. Are you suggesting that doctors in 2019 are equally as likely as doctors in 1997 to suggest that a child is transgender? Because I'm at least 99% sure that's false. Yes, because in both cases it's something not done without lots of careful examination unless the doctor is shit. shockthemonkey posted... Since there is conflicting reports, how about the child is evaluated by imperial professionals and, at most, given puberty blockers while more information can be gathered? The child can't be transitioned without professionals evaluating him. <cite>OctilIery posted [p:929198674] in Texas jury... [t:78108026]...</cite> <quote>Gobstoppers12 posted...</cite> <quote>OctilIery posted...</cite> <quote> The chance is no greater than that they'd have said it then.</quote> Are you suggesting that doctors in 2019 are equally as likely as doctors in 1997 to suggest that a child is transgender? Because I'm at least 99% sure that's false.</quote> Yes, because in both cases it's something not done without lots of careful examination unless the doctor is shit. shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>Since there is conflicting reports, how about the child is evaluated by imperial professionals and, at most, given puberty blockers while more information can be gathered?</quote> The child can't be transitioned without professionals evaluating him.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OctilIery 10/24/19 7:43:24 PM #191:	Vicious_Dios posted... Jesus FUCK, that's no way to raise a kid. Yes, it is. <cite>OctilIery posted [p:929198681] in Texas jury... [t:78108026]...</cite> <quote>Vicious_Dios posted...</cite> <quote>Jesus FUCK, that's no way to raise a kid. </quote> Yes, it is.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 10/24/19 7:43:32 PM #192:	Gobstoppers12 posted... hockeybub89 posted... If we only we had experts who we could ask those questions to, who could then recommend solutions designed to generally help people in medical or mental distress. The same experts who apparently think James is a girl and should be medically altered to be more like a female? James himself says this: https://twitter.com/QuestionLGBTedu/status/1187441205971431424 People freak out every time they hear someone under the age of 18 is LGBT or is going through gender transistion. People ALWAYS want to value their feelings over professionals. In this instance, you don't have all the facts, but a video is confirming what you want to believe and is leading you to assume doctors have no idea what they are talking about. The pearl-clutching people do over gender transition is effectively the same as any other medical conspiracy theories. Just people combining bad feelings with rare examples and mistaking that for proof of some dangerous epidemic. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:929198688] in Texas jury... [t:78108026]...</cite> <quote>Gobstoppers12 posted...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote> If we only we had experts who we could ask those questions to, who could then recommend solutions designed to generally help people in medical or mental distress.</quote> The same experts who apparently think James is a girl and should be medically altered to be more like a female? James himself says this: https://twitter.com/QuestionLGBTedu/status/1187441205971431424</quote> People freak out every time they hear someone under the age of 18 is LGBT or is going through gender transistion. People ALWAYS want to value their feelings over professionals. In this instance, you don't have all the facts, but a video is confirming what you want to believe and is leading you to assume doctors have no idea what they are talking about. The pearl-clutching people do over gender transition is effectively the same as any other medical conspiracy theories. Just people combining bad feelings with rare examples and mistaking that for proof of some dangerous epidemic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 10/24/19 7:47:51 PM #194:	hockeybub89 posted... Gobstoppers12 posted... hockeybub89 posted... If we only we had experts who we could ask those questions to, who could then recommend solutions designed to generally help people in medical or mental distress. The same experts who apparently think James is a girl and should be medically altered to be more like a female? James himself says this: https://twitter.com/QuestionLGBTedu/status/1187441205971431424 People freak out every time they hear someone under the age of 18 is LGBT or is going through gender transistion. People ALWAYS want to value their feelings over professionals. In this instance, you don't have all the facts, but a video is confirming what you want to believe and is leading you to assume doctors have no idea what they are talking about. The pearl-clutching people do over gender transition is effectively the same as any other medical conspiracy theories. Just people combining bad feelings with rare examples and mistaking that for proof of some dangerous epidemic. Yes, because multiple videos of a male child saying he's a boy can't POSSIBLY mean that he isn't transgendered. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:929198852] in Texas jury... [t:78108026]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>Gobstoppers12 posted...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote> If we only we had experts who we could ask those questions to, who could then recommend solutions designed to generally help people in medical or mental distress.</quote> The same experts who apparently think James is a girl and should be medically altered to be more like a female? James himself says this: https://twitter.com/QuestionLGBTedu/status/1187441205971431424</quote> People freak out every time they hear someone under the age of 18 is LGBT or is going through gender transistion. People ALWAYS want to value their feelings over professionals. In this instance, you don't have all the facts, but a video is confirming what you want to believe and is leading you to assume doctors have no idea what they are talking about. The pearl-clutching people do over gender transition is effectively the same as any other medical conspiracy theories. Just people combining bad feelings with rare examples and mistaking that for proof of some dangerous epidemic.</quote> Yes, because multiple videos of a male child saying he's a boy can't POSSIBLY mean that he isn't transgendered.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OctilIery 10/24/19 7:48:29 PM #195:	darkjedilink posted... hockeybub89 posted... Gobstoppers12 posted... hockeybub89 posted... If we only we had experts who we could ask those questions to, who could then recommend solutions designed to generally help people in medical or mental distress. The same experts who apparently think James is a girl and should be medically altered to be more like a female? James himself says this: https://twitter.com/QuestionLGBTedu/status/1187441205971431424 People freak out every time they hear someone under the age of 18 is LGBT or is going through gender transistion. People ALWAYS want to value their feelings over professionals. In this instance, you don't have all the facts, but a video is confirming what you want to believe and is leading you to assume doctors have no idea what they are talking about. The pearl-clutching people do over gender transition is effectively the same as any other medical conspiracy theories. Just people combining bad feelings with rare examples and mistaking that for proof of some dangerous epidemic. Yes, because multiple videos of a male child saying he's a boy can't POSSIBLY mean that he isn't transgendered. They don't mean anything either way in a situation like this. <cite>OctilIery posted [p:929198875] in Texas jury... [t:78108026]...</cite> <quote>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>Gobstoppers12 posted...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote> If we only we had experts who we could ask those questions to, who could then recommend solutions designed to generally help people in medical or mental distress.</quote> The same experts who apparently think James is a girl and should be medically altered to be more like a female? James himself says this: https://twitter.com/QuestionLGBTedu/status/1187441205971431424</quote> People freak out every time they hear someone under the age of 18 is LGBT or is going through gender transistion. People ALWAYS want to value their feelings over professionals. In this instance, you don't have all the facts, but a video is confirming what you want to believe and is leading you to assume doctors have no idea what they are talking about. The pearl-clutching people do over gender transition is effectively the same as any other medical conspiracy theories. Just people combining bad feelings with rare examples and mistaking that for proof of some dangerous epidemic.</quote> Yes, because multiple videos of a male child saying he's a boy can't POSSIBLY mean that he isn't transgendered.</quote> They don't mean anything either way in a situation like this.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
supercurrymax 10/24/19 7:48:47 PM #196:	shockthemonkey posted... So it looks like theyre just going on puberty blockers from what this is saying. Thats fine. Dr Georgulas provided a letter from a gay childrens therapy centre recommending James become a patient of Dallas transgender childrens clinic Genecis so that she can receive a full psychological assessment for gender dysphoria and potentially take hormone blockers. Like what is wrong with this? Go give them a full diagnosis and potentially give them the bare minimum treatment while continuing to evaluate how they feel? They are not that is speculative bullshitnon the part of bad faith writer of this article --- i like chicken. <cite>supercurrymax posted [p:929198885] in Texas jury... [t:78108026]...</cite> <quote>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>So it looks like theyre just going on puberty blockers from what this is saying. Thats fine. <quote> Dr Georgulas provided a letter from a gay childrens therapy centre recommending James become a patient of Dallas transgender childrens clinic Genecis so that she can receive a full psychological assessment for gender dysphoria and potentially take hormone blockers.</quote> Like what is wrong with this? Go give them a full diagnosis and potentially give them the bare minimum treatment while continuing to evaluate how they feel?</quote> They are not that is speculative bullshitnon the part of bad faith writer of this article</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 10/24/19 7:49:39 PM #197:	viewmaster_pi posted... hockeybub89 posted... If a child complains of a headache, should we hold off on treating it for as long as possible? That kind of comparison to something medically trivial like a headache isn't helpful for your argument. How do you know it's medically trivial? Would you just tell your child to shut the fuck and take an Advil over and over? Because children don't truly understand pain and there's no way it could be more than some cold or something? If a headache doesn't go away or keeps recurring, it might not be trivial. Do you think that thousands of children are having their genitals cut off every day because they held a Barbie once? --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:929198919] in Texas jury... [t:78108026]...</cite> <quote>viewmaster_pi posted...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite> <quote>If a child complains of a headache, should we hold off on treating it for as long as possible?</quote>That kind of comparison to something medically trivial like a headache isn't helpful for your argument. </quote> How do you know it's medically trivial? Would you just tell your child to shut the fuck and take an Advil over and over? Because children don't truly understand pain and there's no way it could be more than some cold or something? If a headache doesn't go away or keeps recurring, it might not be trivial. Do you think that thousands of children are having their genitals cut off every day because they held a Barbie once?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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viewmaster_pi 10/24/19 7:50:36 PM #199:	OctilIery posted... They don't mean anything either way in a situation like this. Why not, doctor Octillery --- - Sent from my DynaTAC 8000X <cite>viewmaster_pi posted [p:929198955] in Texas jury... [t:78108026]...</cite> <quote>OctilIery posted... </cite> <quote>They don't mean anything either way in a situation like this.</quote>Why not, doctor Octillery </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
supercurrymax 10/24/19 7:52:03 PM #200:	Gobstoppers12 posted... PleaseClap posted... Thats one heck of a twitter handle Forget the source, focus on the hard evidence. It's kinda unsettling to me how people in this topic are using this situation as a means to advance political messaging. Especially posts like gunplagirl's saying "every post that refers to her as a boy or by her given name at birth should be moddee for transphobia" Myself, and others like me, are saying "Maybe it's too early in life to be putting this kind of pressure on a 7 year old kid, and maybe doctors don't always get things right. Shouldn't we be careful with stuff like this?" People like gunpla immediately accuse us of transphobia and ask for our opinions to be silenced. Based on saying the equivalent of "Wait, maybe we shouldn't be pumping children full of hormone blockers?" No one is pushing anything on the child They are simply exploring their identity and mom is supportive. Dad is a classic "no son of mine" toxic attitude. The kid isn't taking meds or getting castrated or taking blockers. She simply likes so called "girl things" and dad got pissed. --- i like chicken. <cite>supercurrymax posted [p:929199018] in Texas jury... [t:78108026]...</cite> <quote>Gobstoppers12 posted...</cite> <quote>PleaseClap posted...</cite> <quote>Thats one heck of a twitter handle</quote> Forget the source, focus on the hard evidence. It's kinda unsettling to me how people in this topic are using this situation as a means to advance political messaging. Especially posts like gunplagirl's saying "every post that refers to her as a boy or by her given name at birth should be moddee for transphobia" Myself, and others like me, are saying "Maybe it's too early in life to be putting this kind of pressure on a 7 year old kid, and maybe doctors don't always get things right. Shouldn't we be careful with stuff like this?" People like gunpla immediately accuse us of transphobia and ask for our opinions to be silenced. Based on saying the equivalent of "Wait, maybe we shouldn't be pumping children full of hormone blockers?"</quote> No one is pushing anything on the child They are simply exploring their identity and mom is supportive. Dad is a classic "no son of mine" toxic attitude. The kid isn't taking meds or getting castrated or taking blockers. She simply likes so called "girl things" and dad got pissed.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 10/24/19 7:52:08 PM #201:	hockeybub89 posted... viewmaster_pi posted... hockeybub89 posted... If a child complains of a headache, should we hold off on treating it for as long as possible? That kind of comparison to something medically trivial like a headache isn't helpful for your argument. How do you know it's medically trivial? Would you just tell your child to shut the fuck and take an Advil over and over? Because children don't truly understand pain and there's no way it could be more than some cold or something? If a headache doesn't go away or keeps recurring, it might not be trivial. Do you think that thousands of children are having their genitals cut off every day because they held a Barbie once? I do know that hundreds of teenagers will have bone issues and will be sterile for the rest of their lives because their parents care more about acceptance than actually being a parent and put their kids on puberty blockers just because their kid had a questioning phase. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:929199023] in Texas jury... [t:78108026]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>viewmaster_pi posted...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite> <quote>If a child complains of a headache, should we hold off on treating it for as long as possible?</quote>That kind of comparison to something medically trivial like a headache isn't helpful for your argument. </quote> How do you know it's medically trivial? Would you just tell your child to shut the fuck and take an Advil over and over? Because children don't truly understand pain and there's no way it could be more than some cold or something? If a headache doesn't go away or keeps recurring, it might not be trivial. Do you think that thousands of children are having their genitals cut off every day because they held a Barbie once?</quote> I do know that hundreds of teenagers will have bone issues and will be sterile for the rest of their lives because their parents care more about acceptance than actually being a parent and put their kids on puberty blockers just because their kid had a questioning phase.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
viewmaster_pi 10/24/19 7:52:32 PM #202:	hockeybub89 posted... How do you know it's medically trivial? Would you just tell your child to shut the fuck and take an Advil over and over? Because children don't truly understand pain and there's no way it could be more than some cold or something? If a headache doesn't go away or keeps recurring, it might not be trivial. Many strawmans just because I said you used a bad example to compare transgenderism to. --- - Sent from my DynaTAC 8000X <cite>viewmaster_pi posted [p:929199042] in Texas jury... [t:78108026]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite> <quote>How do you know it's medically trivial? Would you just tell your child to shut the fuck and take an Advil over and over? Because children don't truly understand pain and there's no way it could be more than some cold or something? If a headache doesn't go away or keeps recurring, it might not be trivial.</quote>Many strawmans just because I said you used a bad example to compare transgenderism to. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OctilIery 10/24/19 7:54:03 PM #203:	viewmaster_pi posted... OctilIery posted... They don't mean anything either way in a situation like this. Why not, doctor Octillery Because we don't know the context for the videos. We don't know if the kid was coached or coerced. What matters is that multiple medical professionals have approved the child for transitioning, which means that they took effort to ensure the kid is actually having gender dysphoria, not just confused or led one way or another by his parents. What matters is legal professionals and an impartial jury looked at all the relevant evidence and decided the dad is in the wrong. <cite>OctilIery posted [p:929199092] in Texas jury... [t:78108026]...</cite> <quote>viewmaster_pi posted...</cite> <quote>OctilIery posted... </cite> <quote>They don't mean anything either way in a situation like this.</quote>Why not, doctor Octillery </quote> Because we don't know the context for the videos. We don't know if the kid was coached or coerced. What matters is that multiple medical professionals have approved the child for transitioning, which means that they took effort to ensure the kid is actually having gender dysphoria, not just confused or led one way or another by his parents. What matters is legal professionals and an impartial jury looked at all the relevant evidence and decided the dad is in the wrong.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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