Current Events > Texas jury rules against dad trying to stop 7yo son's gender transition

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why do these people want kids to be castrated
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darkjedilink posted...

Conflict posted...

Nobody's going to take you seriously when you call it "child abuse" like a child with a super rudimentary understanding of what's actually going on. Do you think they're having the kid go through the genital surgery or what

Withholding parental affection unless the kid wears a dress is child abuse. End of story.

Which isn't happening here. The dad is doing that, except he's withholding it if the kid acts her own gender.

King_Hutton posted...

RickyTheBAWSE posted...

King_Hutton posted...

RickyTheBAWSE posted...

imagine being upset that a parent doesn't want their kid sexualized period.

Whos sexualizing kids?

did you read the topic?

the fuckers putting hetero/homo/trans/bisexual titles on kids.

none of this shit should be pushed on kids. they'll ask whatever questions they want to ask whenever they reach that stage in life.

Im so confused. Can you explain better?

probably, but I won't.
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darkjedilink posted...

King_Hutton posted...

The judge is biased now because he gave in to public pressure? And youre saying that supports you?

You're trolling, right? It's fucking obvious that I was explicitly stating the judge's bias is against the father (you know, because almost every family court judge in America is biased against fathers?).

It isn't bias when all evidence and logic supports ruling against the dad.

RickyTheBAWSE posted...

King_Hutton posted...

RickyTheBAWSE posted...

King_Hutton posted...

RickyTheBAWSE posted...

imagine being upset that a parent doesn't want their kid sexualized period.

Whos sexualizing kids?

did you read the topic?

the fuckers putting hetero/homo/trans/bisexual titles on kids.

none of this shit should be pushed on kids. they'll ask whatever questions they want to ask whenever they reach that stage in life.

Im so confused. Can you explain better?

probably, but I won't.

Strange. I dont see anyone sexualizing kids in this topic and the only thing I can think of is that study about affirming LGBTQ kids. Is that what you mean? Because that definitely wasnt sexualizing kids.
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darkjedilink posted...

Withholding parental affection unless the kid wears a dress is child abuse. End of story.

Refusing to allow your child to choose their clothing, forcing them to dress in a way they aren't comfortable in, making the child dread and avoid soccer practice because she's forced to dress like a boy, and having the police called on her and her mother simply because she wants to wear girl clothes to a school meeting probably constitutes child abuse more than actually loving your fucking child for who they are.

I know you're a troll but too many people share your shit takes. What video evidence do you have contrary to the mother and professionals again? Why is the CPS agent, CALLED BY THE FATHER, biased?

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Hey guys, what's going on in this thre-

Oh my
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Blue_Dream87 posted...

darkjedilink posted...

Withholding parental affection unless the kid wears a dress is child abuse. End of story.

Refusing to allow your child to choose their clothing, forcing them to dress in a way they aren't comfortable in, making the child dread and avoid soccer practice because she's forced to dress like a boy, and having the police called on her and her mother simply because she wants to wear girl clothes to a school meeting probably constitutes child abuse more than actually loving your fucking child for who they are.

I know you're a troll but too many people share your shit takes. What video evidence do you have contrary to the mother and professionals again? Why is the CPS agent, CALLED BY THE FATHER, biased?

The kid IS NOT TRANS. How many fucking VIDEOS need to be posted to get that through your head?

And SHOCKER - CPS IS BIASED AGAINST MEN.
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darkjedilink posted...

The kid IS NOT TRANS. How many fucking VIDEOS need to be posted to get that through your head?

And SHOCKER - CPS IS BIASED AGAINST MEN.

You're a bad person.

A bad, bitter, lonely, vindictive person.
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darkjedilink posted...

The kid IS NOT TRANS. How many fucking VIDEOS need to be posted to get that through your head?

And SHOCKER - CPS IS BIASED AGAINST MEN.

Idk man I watched one video that had, you know, court testimony that confirmed Luna identifies as Luna even when the mom isn't around. And you'd have to say not only CPS, but teachers, pediatricians not compromised by religious dogma and conspiracy, therapists, and Luna's brother are all biased against men.

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He's projecting. He's having a bad night, thinking the whole world is against him, and now he's taking out his frustrations on this issue.

It's not the first time he's done it.
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At least its not gonna happen anymore
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CyricZ posted...

He's projecting. He's having a bad night, thinking the whole world is against him, and now he's taking out his frustrations on this issue.

It's not the first time he's done it.

Must be a day that ends in y then

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darkjedilink posted...

The kid IS NOT TRANS. How many fucking VIDEOS need to be posted to get that through your head?

A single one that supports that would be a start.

DisneyFan462 posted...

At least its not gonna happen anymore

It will, though. The father will be cut out as he should and the kid will be taken care of properly.

Ryuko_Chan posted...

why do these people want kids to be castrated

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Ryuko_Chan posted...

Ryuko_Chan posted...

why do these people want kids to be castrated

Oh you sweet summer child. You think this is how things work.
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hockeybub89 posted...

Oh you sweet summer child.

wow, he said it

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viewmaster_pi posted...

wow, he said it

There's a lot to unpack here.

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viewmaster_pi posted...

hockeybub89 posted...

Oh you sweet summer child.

wow, he said it

Yikes
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sick
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OctilIery posted...

It will, though. The father will be cut out as he should and the kid will be taken care of properly.

You saw it here first folks, someone supporting child abuse in the name of trans politics.
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Offworlder1 posted...

OctilIery posted...

It will, though. The father will be cut out as he should and the kid will be taken care of properly.

You saw it here first folks, someone supporting child abuse in the name of trans politics.

Yeah we should completely ignore trans people until they turn 18. The sensible, apolitical move.
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I said teenager, and in high school after they have been a teenager for a little while, as in 16, or 17.
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Offworlder1 posted...

I said teenager, and in high school after they have been a teenager for a little while, as in 16, or 17.

Or we can start looking into it as soon as we can do it safely.

Like what's happening in this case.

Offworlder1 posted...

I said teenager, and in high school after they have been a teenager for a little while, as in 16, or 17.

So literally how transitioning works? You need to get in on the ground floor. If a child turns out to be truly trans, it takes years to even get to gender confirmation surgery. Every minute counts when it comes to medical and psychological treatment. There is no logical reason to treat trans issues as any different than any other potential condition a child can suffer. Treating conditions shouldn't be some kind of partisan political argument. It's medicine.
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This 7 or 8 year old child does not have the mental ability to know this kind of shit, the fact you don't understand that is baffling as if again your more concerned with "championing trans politics" then actually let the child decide when they actually have the maturity to do so, and actual concept.

I don't know why people do not understand the child saying "that's what mommy told me" is literally a child deferring to his mother an authority figure who is suppose to be looking out for the child's well being not using the child as a weapon to get back at her ex.
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Offworlder1 posted...

This 7 or 8 year old child does not have the mental ability to know this kind of shit, the fact you don't understand that is baffling as if again your more concerned with "championing trans politics" then actually let the child decide when they actually have the maturity to do so, and actual concept.

A child also doesn't know true pain or the ins and outs of human anatomy but we'd probably try to figure out what's wrong with them if they kept complaining of hurting. Poltics is treating gender identity issues differently than any other physical or mental issues a child can develop. Do doctors just do what children and parents say for other childhood conditions? Do they even do that when adults come to them? There are no permanent decisions being made. It takes many years before someone would even be confirmed as trans, let alone make life-shattering decisions. But I guess "Children that still believe in Santa are somehow old enough to tell doctors to cut off their penis" evokes a juicier emotional response than the mundane slow-pace of reality.

I am not trans, but I know what it's like to suffer through years of feeling off and just having it ignored because "you'll grow out of it" and "it's just a phase." What did I gain out of "making my own decision" in my 20s? A wasted childhood. A stunted development.
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Offworlder1 posted...

This 7 or 8 year old child does not have the mental ability to know this kind of shit, the fact you don't understand that is baffling as if again your more concerned with "championing trans politics" then actually let the child decide when they actually have the maturity to do so, and actual concept.

No, but the psychiatrists who talked to them do.

Offworlder1 posted...

You saw it here first folks, someone supporting child abuse in the name of trans politics.

Supporting the father is literally supporting child abuse

Funny how everyone is misdirecting this hatred at the mother. Too many people been politicized by conservative grifters.

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gunplagirl posted...

One, the power imbalance makes it impossible to be "just as bad" with regards to cisgender people.
Two, even if it were possible, you're ignoring the entire argument which is that transgender children exist, deserve esteem, the child's not even old enough to get any medical treatments yet, and even in a few years when she is old enough to start it'll be several more after that before any permanent treatments can begin and there's dozens of safeguards that exist.
Three, the fact that people have an opinion on this without that knowledge, and that their opinions actively prove detrimental to all transgender youth in the name of protecting them? Protecting them from what, if they're NOT transgender, which is to say, they're trying to enforce a status quo that punishes anyone who isn't part of it, even children. And that plays back to point one, that the status quo is inherently geared towards alienation of anyone not cisgender.
Four, speaking of opinions? That transgender youth exist, deserve esteem, should be allowed to transition, and that they deserve to get medical care ONLY if they meet extremely high proofs of burden to receive intervention? That's not an opinion, that's the only correct viewpoint. It doesn't matter if somebody understands transgender people or not, it's the only correct view, just like somebody doesn't have to understand complex physics well to know that acceleration due to Earth's gravity (1 g) is 9.80665 m/s^2, usually rounded down to 9.8 in most intro courses. And of course, back to two and three, cisgender people who are not affected by this have an "opinion" on something that neither affects them nor is it an "opinion" based on all the facts, there are few posters here who know what the requirements and standards of care are for transgender adults or how much higher the requirements are for transgender youth to receive medical intervention.
Five, you don't have to consciously hate transgender people to be transphobic. If your views run opposed to decades of research with extremely high requirements in favor of forcing a lack of medical care in order to uphold a status quo that erases and ignores transgender people existing? That's transphobia. Maybe not as vile as people who actively call for the extermination of transgender people, but still ultimately results in a similar outcome, alienation of transgender people, refusing them care because of personal views not steeped in science or anything factual, and even an attempt at the erasure of transgender people by literally saying that people can be too young to be it.

And no, it's not some losing argument to acknowledge that it's transphobia then other people have an "opinion" neither based on being aware of the situation, not getting informed, harming and erasing transgender people, and disregarding both professional and transgender people's statements on the facts. The fact is, transphobia is socially ingrained into most of the world's societies, usually as a result of the history of misdirected Christian teachings. It's no different than how even a decade ago, jokes where the punchline was something about being gay. That was homophobia at all points in time, but the status quo was more accepting of such jokes then. Spoiler alert, the status quo is usually wrong and takes a long time to correctly grow to embrace minority groups, and even longer to properly understand and accept them as part of the status quo, and then even longer to make it unacceptable for people to go targeting those minorities on the basis of being said minority.

Um, can you try articulating your point in a precise manner? Lot of fluff in here.

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a 500 topic of people repeating themselves to the same people who didn't give a fuck since the first page
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I thought Texas was a conservative state. Why they go against the father?
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Responding to my post from like 4 days and 150 posts ago? Sounds like CE.

RickyTheBAWSE posted...

a 500 topic of people repeating themselves to the same people who didn't give a fuck since the first page

Exactly why I stopped posting.
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only 9 posts left, better make 'em count

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Medzzz posted...

I thought Texas was a conservative state. Why they go against the father?

You can find a stupid jury anywhere.
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Odds of there being a part 2 topic?
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RickyTheBAWSE posted...

a 500 topic of people repeating themselves to the same people who didn't give a fuck since the first page

It happens every single time we have a topic about trans children.

"Trans children aren't real."

"Here's evidence they are."

"Uh... uh... child abuse! It's icky! Politics! SJWs!"
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CyricZ posted...

RickyTheBAWSE posted...

a 500 topic of people repeating themselves to the same people who didn't give a fuck since the first page

It happens every single time we have a topic about trans children.

"Trans children aren't real."

"Here's evidence they are."

"Uh... uh... child abuse! It's icky! Politics! SJWs!"

"I'm okay with trans people but also I think that they shouldn't be allowed to exist" is always fun
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Did you guys have fun?
How many hearts/minds did you win?
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One is enough for me.

And it didn't even have to be someone who posted. As long as someone reads the arguments and takes in the facts.

We'll be back again arguing this when another transgender child enters the news cycle.
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The 500 post limit is probably a good thing
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