Poll of the Day > This episode of Pokemon got banned in USA.

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Lobomoon
10/20/19 7:48:51 PM
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Look carefully and try to guess why:

https://nextshark-vxdsockgvw3ki.stackpathdns.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/ff-768x408.jpg

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https://www.polygon.com/2018/7/10/17555278/pokemon-passimian-episode-missing-disney-xd
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trodi_911
10/20/19 8:05:46 PM
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All I see is 4 Passimian.
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Nichtcrawler X
10/20/19 8:09:31 PM
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Typical US silliness?
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Hop103
10/20/19 8:19:31 PM
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That's a very old story you got there, also that's not blackface.
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darcandkharg31
10/20/19 8:23:13 PM
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They're calling it racist because ash dresses like a monkey? That's like a self burn.
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keyblader1985
10/20/19 8:26:23 PM
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If nothing else, they could have just shopped his face.
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Aaantlion
10/20/19 8:30:55 PM
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Nichtcrawler X posted...
Typical US silliness?


Pretty much. This is erring on the side of insanity, considering how he's costumed.
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Lone-Wolf
10/20/19 8:57:26 PM
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You guys do know the reason the Second Amendment isn't repealed is because black people would then have all the guns and start an uprising, don't you? Truth is so very sad. That's what would happen. But school shootings are so much fun, why would you want to get rid of them?
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deoxxys
10/20/19 9:26:45 PM
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is it on netflix though?
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Fierce_Deity_08
10/20/19 10:11:03 PM
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This is not racist because that is not blackface. Him dressing as a monkey Pokmon is not racist because all humans are evolved from monkeys unless you are Christian.
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LinkPizza
10/20/19 10:30:15 PM
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Fierce_Deity_08 posted...
This is not racist because that is not blackface. Him dressing as a monkey Pokmon is not racist because all humans are evolved from monkeys unless you are Christian.

They also said Jynx was blackface. Which she wasn't wearing make-up. That was her face. And I think she was actually based off a Japanese cryptid, or ykai...
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keyblader1985
10/20/19 11:30:26 PM
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I thought Jynx was based on gyarus.
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SkynyrdRocker
10/21/19 12:24:06 AM
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That's not blackface.
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Aaantlion
10/21/19 1:11:02 AM
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LinkPizza posted...
Fierce_Deity_08 posted...
This is not racist because that is not blackface. Him dressing as a monkey Pokmon is not racist because all humans are evolved from monkeys unless you are Christian.

They also said Jynx was blackface. Which she wasn't wearing make-up. That was her face. And I think she was actually based off a Japanese cryptid, or ykai...


Jynx's design seems to at least be partly based on older stereotypes/caricatures of Africans used in animation.
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Decoy77
10/21/19 4:56:12 AM
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So I guess dressing up like something else is now bad? Someone should tell those getting ready for Halloween this. This PC crap is just getting old really fast. He dressed up as a Pokemon, who cares!
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Kyuubi4269
10/21/19 4:59:26 AM
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Aaantlion posted...
Jynx's design seems to at least be partly based on older stereotypes/caricatures of Africans used in animation.

According to Americans.

Also that wouldn't matter if the context is from a good place.
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Unbridled9
10/21/19 10:54:17 AM
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Kyuubi4269 posted...
Aaantlion posted...
Jynx's design seems to at least be partly based on older stereotypes/caricatures of Africans used in animation.

According to Americans.

Also that wouldn't matter if the context is from a good place.


That's Americans for you. Screeching to no end about 'cultural appropriation' and how we're oppressing basically every culture ever but then assuming that theirs is the only 'right' one and everyone else should be beholden to it.
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LinkPizza
10/21/19 11:01:17 AM
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Aaantlion posted...
LinkPizza posted...
Fierce_Deity_08 posted...
This is not racist because that is not blackface. Him dressing as a monkey Pokmon is not racist because all humans are evolved from monkeys unless you are Christian.

They also said Jynx was blackface. Which she wasn't wearing make-up. That was her face. And I think she was actually based off a Japanese cryptid, or ykai...


Jynx's design seems to at least be partly based on older stereotypes/caricatures of Africans used in animation.

I dont think so. It might look similar, but I dont think thats what they were going for. At least, thats what they say. I think it might be that others see if as racist, but I dont think thats what the creators were going for. Unless they were actually racist and lied about what they based it off of... But that would be a huge assumption...
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Nade Duck
10/21/19 11:18:17 AM
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thought jinx was based on those chicks in japan that went around heavily fake tanned and covered in make-up. ganguro or whatever. i at least kind of understand that one though, jinx is humanoid as fuck, the similarities to blackface are blatant even if they're unintentional.

on the one hand, he's clearly dressed as a fuckin monkey thing and anyone that gets upset over this is a whiny crybaby, and there was probably some overly cautious idiot corporate meddling involved. on the other hand, they really should have seen this reaction coming because it's all anyone does anymore because society sucks ass.

whatever i like oranguru more anyway.
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LinkPizza
10/21/19 11:25:11 AM
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Nade Duck posted...
thought jinx was based on those chicks in japan that went around heavily fake tanned and covered in make-up. ganguro or whatever. i at least kind of understand that one though, jinx is humanoid as fuck, the similarities to blackface are blatant even if they're unintentional.

on the one hand, he's clearly dressed as a fuckin monkey thing and anyone that gets upset over this is a whiny crybaby, and there was probably some overly cautious idiot corporate meddling involved. on the other hand, they really should have seen this reaction coming because it's all anyone does anymore because society sucks ass.

whatever i like oranguru more anyway.

Ive heard both. And online refers to both, as well...
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Nade Duck
10/21/19 11:30:23 AM
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i'm gonna assume jinx is much more based on the ganguro thing since that's actually relevant to japanese culture. any blackface shenanigans are probably an unfortunate coincidence.
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keyblader1985
10/21/19 11:52:59 AM
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There's never been an official statement on it, but there are several reasonably likely theories about the origin of Jynx.

https://www.bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/On_the_Origin_of_Species:_Jynx

Ganguro would be the most obvious answer, but as said in the article it was just beginning to pick up steam when the original games were released, giving them a small window to throw in an homage to a sudden fad. It could also have been based on various figures in folklore, and there have been caricature-like designs of black people in anime in the past so it's not entirely out of the question.
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Nichtcrawler X
10/21/19 12:18:23 PM
#23:


Jynx did help Santa in the anim, suggesting Black Pete as part of the origin (only St Nick related character I am aware of that has a painted face)

Still, not every instance of a painted face is meant to be a racist "Minstrel Show".
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Aculo
10/21/19 12:22:05 PM
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obviously not actually racist, but woke american won't see it that way. i'm sure they just want to avoid all of that, ok?
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Nichtcrawler X
10/21/19 12:28:45 PM
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Aculo posted...
obviously not actually racist, but woke american won't see it that way. i'm sure they just want to avoid all of that, ok?


Either avoid or call me racist for not openly renouncing Zwarte Piet.
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Aculo
10/21/19 1:03:42 PM
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Nichtcrawler X posted...
Aculo posted...
obviously not actually racist, but woke american won't see it that way. i'm sure they just want to avoid all of that, ok?


Either avoid or call me racist for not openly renouncing Zwarte Piet.

ok, what?
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Mead
10/21/19 2:58:27 PM
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SkynyrdRocker posted...
That's not blackface.

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EvilMegas
10/21/19 3:01:05 PM
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While it's not blackface let's not act like Japan isn't a racist shithole.

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agesboy
10/21/19 3:37:21 PM
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japan is accidentally racist a lot

while they probably don't have as negative intentions as someone doing the same thing in america would have, we also can't just let this air in america completely absolving ignorance in japan
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TigerTycoon
10/21/19 4:08:01 PM
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Implying that it needs to be censored because dressing like a monkey is like being black is racist in itself.
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Aculo
10/21/19 4:14:21 PM
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*sigh* reasonable people will understand why it's probably not a great idea to air that episode, ok?
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keyblader1985
10/21/19 5:12:03 PM
#32:


agesboy posted...
japan is accidentally racist a lot

And intentionally racist. They're just polite about it and not openly malicious.
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Metalsonic66
10/21/19 6:38:14 PM
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Are you sure that one wasn't banned because he was a furry?

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Nichtcrawler X
10/21/19 7:47:21 PM
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Also, guess I will bite, why is dressing like a monkey racist, but dressing like a dog or cat not?
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keyblader1985
10/21/19 8:14:34 PM
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If you're asking why someone could potentially find it racist.. are you not aware of the malicious association of black people and monkeys?
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Nichtcrawler X
10/21/19 8:30:05 PM
#36:


keyblader1985 posted...
If you're asking why someone could potentially find it racist.. are you not aware of the malicious association of black people and monkeys?


Just the association of people and monkeys in general.
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Revelation34
10/21/19 8:53:58 PM
#37:


Aculo posted...
*sigh* reasonable people will understand why it's probably not a great idea to air that episode, ok?


Real reasonable people would understand why not airing it is moronic since that isn't blackface.
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EvilMegas
10/21/19 10:39:54 PM
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Nichtcrawler X posted...
keyblader1985 posted...
If you're asking why someone could potentially find it racist.. are you not aware of the malicious association of black people and monkeys?


Just the association of people and monkeys in general.

I love how willfully ignorant people will be just to get the upside on a argument.
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DirtBasedSoap
10/21/19 10:57:57 PM
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pokemon has been holding black Americans back in society. im glad theyre finally doing something about it
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Master_Magnus
10/22/19 8:55:34 PM
#40:


It's odd that they didn't edit this like how 4Kids used to edit everything.
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LinkPizza
10/23/19 11:11:50 AM
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Master_Magnus posted...
It's odd that they didn't edit this like how 4Kids used to edit everything.

Like the donuts?
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keyblader1985
10/23/19 5:06:54 PM
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I like my donuts with a little soy sauce.
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