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shockthemonkey posted...

People in rural Indiana not understanding something definitely doesnt mean its not real

All people or just certain people?
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Medzzz posted...

shockthemonkey posted...

People in rural Indiana not understanding something definitely doesnt mean its not real

All people or just certain people?

if you need to ask a question that goes without saying, there's no value in engaging, lmao
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It's an inherently racist concept and always will be and it's been shown to be detrimental to the general outlook on white people, especially those that are destitute.

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/neazxq/the-disturbing-thing-i-learned-studying-white-privilege-and-liberals

are more white people shot by cops by percentage than any other race?
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OnWingsOfMisery posted...

shockthemonkey posted...

People in rural Indiana not understanding something definitely doesnt mean its not real

Disputing the racist concept that gets weaponized to silence people doesn't mean we don't understand it

But it's clear you don't when the retort is always "BuT PoOr wHitE peOPlE eXisT!"
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RchHomieQuanChi posted...

OnWingsOfMisery posted...

shockthemonkey posted...

People in rural Indiana not understanding something definitely doesnt mean its not real

Disputing the racist concept that gets weaponized to silence people doesn't mean we don't understand it

But it's clear you don't when the retort is always "BuT PoOr wHitE peOPlE eXisT!"

That is but one of the many legitimate criticisms.

Are you disputing that people weaponize the concept to silence people and to justify seizing wealth or opportunity?

If course
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Lost_All_Senses posted...

Only if you're racist

Topic should have ended right here
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White privelege is recognition of the fact that white people don't face anywhere jear the degree of prejudice that most minorities do in America. It is a studied fact, not some "racist" theory.
Yes, it gets weaponized and misused by certain groups. Unfortunately, this creates a kickback effect among groups that feel like they are being attacked by society at large. This insecure feeling that people feel they are losing their place in the world is called white fragility. People are being held accountable for their actions when they never have been before, and so they feel like they are being oppressed.

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White privilege is the privilege of not being able to attend a womans march

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2018/12/30/california-womens-march-rally-canceled-over-concerns-that-it-would-be-overwhelmingly-white/
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ChocoboMogALT posted...

White privelege is recognition of the fact that white people don't face anywhere jear the degree of prejudice that most minorities do in America. It is a studied fact, not some "racist" theory.
Yes, it gets weaponized and misused by certain groups. Unfortunately, this creates a kickback effect among groups that feel like they are being attacked by society at large. This insecure feeling that people feel they are losing their place in the world is called white fragility. People are being held accountable for their actions when they never have been before, and so they feel like they are being oppressed.

True
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No, but people utterly misunderstand it and twist it into racist things to make themselves feel better (worse?) about being racist


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ChocoboMogALT posted...

White privelege is recognition of the fact that white people don't face anywhere jear the degree of prejudice that most minorities do in America. It is a studied fact, not some "racist" theory.
Yes, it gets weaponized and misused by certain groups. Unfortunately, this creates a kickback effect among groups that feel like they are being attacked by society at large. This insecure feeling that people feel they are losing their place in the world is called white fragility. People are being held accountable for their actions when they never have been before, and so they feel like they are being oppressed.

Everything you said is toxic, racist, and wrong. The majority of minorities don't face those rare police brutality situations or what have you. And neither do the majority of white people fair better in general.

And people being held back intentionally because they are white is not accountability. That implies that white people in general are responsible for something or have to be accountable for something, which is violent and toxic.

Nope, just a result of racism.
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ChocoboMogALT posted...

White privelege is recognition of the fact that white people don't face anywhere jear the degree of prejudice that most minorities do in America. It is a studied fact, not some "racist" theory.
Yes, it gets weaponized and misused by certain groups. Unfortunately, this creates a kickback effect among groups that feel like they are being attacked by society at large. This insecure feeling that people feel they are losing their place in the world is called white fragility. People are being held accountable for their actions when they never have been before, and so they feel like they are being oppressed.

Oh so the concept of "white privilege" is being held accountable for being white. Thanks, I hate it.

People who point out institutional racism and sociological phenomenon are the REAL racists, yo!

Without sarcasm, Chocobo said it best. It's a legit thing that certain people overreact to and view as some assault on Western culture instead of simply "be cognizant of the privileges history has awarded whites", which is as easy as understanding John will get hired before Laquan with a similar resume

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Annihilated posted...

ChocoboMogALT posted...

White privelege is recognition of the fact that white people don't face anywhere jear the degree of prejudice that most minorities do in America. It is a studied fact, not some "racist" theory.
Yes, it gets weaponized and misused by certain groups. Unfortunately, this creates a kickback effect among groups that feel like they are being attacked by society at large. This insecure feeling that people feel they are losing their place in the world is called white fragility. People are being held accountable for their actions when they never have been before, and so they feel like they are being oppressed.

Oh so the concept of "white privilege" is being held accountable for being white. Thanks, I hate it.

Yeah it is hideous that he doesn't even realize what he is saying. He is confirming that it really is about seizing and blaming.

I love people arguing for it.'so if you're white and in Japan that means that you're a minority and suffer from systematic racism? Or if you're white in a minority white city?

Noooooo that's totally different!

Racist beliefs are so common, it's sad
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RdVEHfJqAvUPIbk posted...

I love people arguing for it.'so if you're white and in Japan that means that you're a minority and suffer from systematic racism? Or if you're white in a minority white city?

Noooooo that's totally different!

Racist beliefs are so common, it's sad

You can also see how quickly the view falls apart when you start probing them for more specific information. How many whites have the privilege? How many of the minority group never experience the disadvantages and thus also have the privilege?

And other questions that are more concrete and specific.

OnWingsOfMisery posted...

ChocoboMogALT posted...

White privelege is recognition of the fact that white people don't face anywhere jear the degree of prejudice that most minorities do in America. It is a studied fact, not some "racist" theory.
Yes, it gets weaponized and misused by certain groups. Unfortunately, this creates a kickback effect among groups that feel like they are being attacked by society at large. This insecure feeling that people feel they are losing their place in the world is called white fragility. People are being held accountable for their actions when they never have been before, and so they feel like they are being oppressed.

Everything you said is toxic, racist, and wrong. The majority of minorities don't face those rare police brutality situations or what have you. And neither do the majority of white people fair better in general.

And people being held back intentionally because they are white is not accountability. That implies that white people in general are responsible for something or have to be accountable for something, which is violent and toxic.

When the troll topic jumps the shark
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https://pics.me.me/the-media-rushed-tojudgment-toconvict-nick-sandmann-the-media-rushed-42737275.png
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Also, lmao at the mods not locking this obvious racebait topic

let someone post about Trumps white supremacy and what that means for his support base though and they shut it down
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Medzzz posted...

https://pics.me.me/the-media-rushed-tojudgment-toconvict-nick-sandmann-the-media-rushed-42737275.png

This

Are people just being wilfully obtuse to the fact that centuries of white hegemony through various means at the expense of minorities has created an intergenerational advantage for white people as the majority group in this country?

Were the effects of governmental policies just wiped clean after 1964?
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I'm loathe to cite Louis CK as a source, but

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCxO5epyyAk" data-time="
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Who's alt is TC?

BTW, have yall notice when Trump does something, these type of topics and alts comes outta the wood works?
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OnWingsOfMisery posted...

Annihilated posted...

ChocoboMogALT posted...

White privelege is recognition of the fact that white people don't face anywhere jear the degree of prejudice that most minorities do in America. It is a studied fact, not some "racist" theory.
Yes, it gets weaponized and misused by certain groups. Unfortunately, this creates a kickback effect among groups that feel like they are being attacked by society at large. This insecure feeling that people feel they are losing their place in the world is called white fragility. People are being held accountable for their actions when they never have been before, and so they feel like they are being oppressed.

Oh so the concept of "white privilege" is being held accountable for being white. Thanks, I hate it.

Yeah it is hideous that he doesn't even realize what he is saying. He is confirming that it really is about seizing and blaming.

I'd just quit bothering with people like him if I were you. They were taught a sack of s*** at one point and absolutely refuse to believe or hear anything outside of it.

Any opposing facts or arguments outside of their status quo are met either with some sort of insult, stating a arguments is wrong based on no factual evidence, finding the most minute of excuses to dismiss arguements entirely. Or repeating the same baseless bulls**** statements infintiely until the opposing poster gives up.

Although usually they just go radio silent after a while and after all of the above learn absolutely nothing and repeats the same bulls*** over again in another relevant topic. It's a sad and pitiful existence caught in a loop.
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when people go hard on the man in the mirror
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Yes, I would say it is.

My life has been a shitheap since day one, and it's tiresome to have someone tell me I'm somehow previleged despite literally never experiencing such a thing (same with my supposed "male previlege").

I was born and raised lower class, and I'm pretty much going to grow old and die in a homeless shelter (I'm going to be spending my 36th birthday in one even), assuming I don't kill myself first. My gender and/or skin color will not change this.
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This entire thread is a cry for help.
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What kind of intergenerational benefits does the average white person today have? How much appeasement and apologizing is necessary before there is no more white privilege and we no longer have to hear about this?

OnWingsOfMisery posted...

What kind of intergenerational benefits does the average white person today have?

https://www.epi.org/blog/the-racial-wealth-gap-how-african-americans-have-been-shortchanged-out-of-the-materials-to-build-wealth/

Average wealth for white families is seven times higher than average wealth for black families. Worse still, median white wealth (wealth for the family in the exact middle of the overall distributionwealthier than half of all families and less-wealthy than half) is twelve times higher than median black wealth. More than one in four black households have zero or negative net worth, compared to less than one in ten white families without wealth, which explains the large differences in the racial wealth gap at the mean and median. These raw differences persist, and are growing, even after taking age, household structure, education level, income, or occupation into account.

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Inferno Dive Dragoon posted...

Yes, I would say it is.

My life has been a shitheap since day one, and it's tiresome to have someone tell me I'm somehow previleged despite literally never experiencing such a thing (same with my supposed "male previlege").

I was born and raised lower class, and I'm pretty much going to grow old and die in a homeless shelter (I'm going to be spending my 36th birthday in one even), assuming I don't kill myself first. My gender and/or skin color will not change this.

here is what i hear most about it. hey im white and my life sucks, must be fake
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OnWingsOfMisery posted...

What kind of intergenerational benefits does the average white person today have? How much appeasement and apologizing is necessary before there is no more white privilege and we no longer have to hear about this?

There are no benefits, but the government has done harm to poor people who are disproportionately POC. Welfare for single moms has led to the destruction of black families. That is an example of inter generational harm inflicted on black families by white liberals in power. Black families used to be more stable than white families, and then white liberals blew that up. The below summarizes the damage from LBJs War on Poverty.





The sooner us white people get over our white fragility and own up to the destruction caused by our well intentioned welfare policies, the sooner we can heal. To arrogantly impose intrusive welfare policies and refuse to analyze the unintended damage caused by those policies is a perfect example of white privilege.
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My issue with it is it's based around white majority country's socities. The majority privilege where I live isn't white, so it comes off as narrow and specific to other cultures.

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OnWingsOfMisery posted...

What kind of intergenerational benefits does the average white person today have? How much appeasement and apologizing is necessary before there is no more white privilege and we no longer have to hear about this?

The benefit of being part of a system that was originally catered to ensure white hegemony by law, and often through violence in nearly all of this country's history. This provided the stratification that persists to this day.

The benefit of not needing a constitutional amendment to be considered full citizens with equal rights and protections under the law nearly two centuries after the country's founding.

It's a system that's bigger than any one person and everyone is born into it. We as a country and culture have been inundated in white supremacy since the beginning and there are those that would deny that it has provided a benefit for one group as well as a disadvantage to the out groups.
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lol.

TC's a new account making a not-so-subtle racist topic on CE.

Must be a day that ends in -y
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I just know that misery loves company. So when somebody spends their Saturday making a topic like this at a video game message board on an alt account, it tells me that this person is in a shitty place in life.

Healthy minds with quality social circles don't do things like this. This is what you do when you feel trapped.
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RchHomieQuanChi posted...

But people aren't saying there aren't white people that have it rough. Just that, at the very least, their whiteness will never be a barrier or an obstacle to their success.

That isn't even always true though.

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OnWingsOfMisery posted...

The majority of minorities don't face those rare police brutality situations or what have you. And neither do the majority of white people fair better in general.

I'm not going to play this game. Minorities face racism, even today. In employment, in policing, in the grocery store. Not every situation is the same, but minorities have real issues with racism in America.

OnWingsOfMisery posted...

And people being held back intentionally because they are white is not accountability. That implies that white people in general are responsible for something or have to be accountable for something, which is violent and toxic.

I never said it was. I said some people feel insecure because they are being held accountable for their actions, when they weren't before.

Annihilated posted...

Oh so the concept of "white privilege" is being held accountable for being white. Thanks, I hate it.

No. White privilege is not facing the racism minorities face. You may still experience prejudice, but rarely to the same degree.
White fragility is the insecure feeling people have when, among other things, they can't be publicly racist anymore.

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Yes, though that doesn't stop people from exploiting it.
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poor whites have it just as bad as any minority. people who act like they dont are so far from reality they cant be helped.
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America is what? 70% + white people? I think it's more like majority privilege and minority disadvantages. Anywhere you are in the world that has a majority race, you'd likely have an easier time if you were part of that majority. It sucks, but it seems to be like that.

You'd see your race represented more in your local media, your neighbors would likely be your race, your law makers would likely be of your race.

Race privilege may be a lot worse in other countries than it is here. Imagine it in a middle eastern country, or in Japan where over 90% of people are Japanese lol. There are areas in the world where being white def is not a good thing.


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Yes, its assuming white people are superior
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black people can be racist too
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Whole lotta stupid in here. Some trolling, some just unaware of the world and its workings.
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DuranOfForcena posted...

RchHomieQuanChi posted...

But people aren't saying there aren't white people that have it rough. Just that, at the very least, their whiteness will never be a barrier or an obstacle to their success.

it may not be the most common usage of the concept, but some people do indeed use it to assert things exactly like that.

as to whiteness never being a barrier or obstacle to success, well:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirmative_action

Even with AA white people are more likely to get jobs than black people if everything else is the same .
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Inferno Dive Dragoon posted...

Yes, I would say it is.

My life has been a shitheap since day one, and it's tiresome to have someone tell me I'm somehow previleged despite literally never experiencing such a thing (same with my supposed "male previlege").

I was born and raised lower class, and I'm pretty much going to grow old and die in a homeless shelter (I'm going to be spending my 36th birthday in one even), assuming I don't kill myself first. My gender and/or skin color will not change this.

Tell me do you really think you would have had an easier time, if born into the same situation but you were black.
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cjsdowg posted...

Inferno Dive Dragoon posted...

Yes, I would say it is.

My life has been a shitheap since day one, and it's tiresome to have someone tell me I'm somehow previleged despite literally never experiencing such a thing (same with my supposed "male previlege").

I was born and raised lower class, and I'm pretty much going to grow old and die in a homeless shelter (I'm going to be spending my 36th birthday in one even), assuming I don't kill myself first. My gender and/or skin color will not change this.

Tell me do you really think you would have had an easier time, if born into the same situation but you were black.

While his situation sounds depressing, I think a lot of the people here truly believe that minorities on average aren't subject to more police scrutiny, more prejudice, more bigotry, harsher prison sentences, despite countless national stories and studies and statistics to the contrary.
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