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scar the 1
10/04/19 8:49:09 AM
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scar the 1 posted...
If, on top of that, there are homeless people and starving people, it's even more inefficient.


hmm

what's hmmm about there being starving people?
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Balrog0
10/04/19 9:20:04 AM
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Very few people actually starve in the us is what he's getting at, and those who do usually don't do so because of economic inefficiency (it's mostly socially isolated old people) is what I assume he means

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Balrog0
10/04/19 9:21:22 AM
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Also probably an implied contrast to starvation in the USSR I guess

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scar the 1
10/04/19 9:22:13 AM
#204:


Balrog0 posted...
Very few people actually starve in the us is what he's getting at, and those who do usually don't do so because of economic inefficiency (it's mostly socially isolated old people) is what I assume he means

Oh ok. So he's taking issue with the word starving and I should actually have said something milder like "going hungry"?
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Balrog0
10/04/19 9:29:51 AM
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Most of the population doesn't actually miss meals, either. We define food insecurity as an uncertainty about where your next meal will come from than reduced food intake. 4.5 percent of households have at least one member experience disruption in their food intake in a given year, but it's probably closer to 1 percent of the population that actually misses meals in a given year.

And not all of that is economic inefficiency, though I guess no one has actually defined that yet so maybe it is?

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scar the 1
10/04/19 9:37:49 AM
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Most of the population doesn't actually miss meals, either. We define food insecurity as an uncertainty about where your next meal will come from than reduced food intake. 4.5 percent of households have at least one member experience disruption in their food intake in a given year, but it's probably closer to 1 percent of the population that actually misses meals in a given year.

And not all of that is economic inefficiency, though I guess no one has actually defined that yet so maybe it is?

I think you're getting at my point yeah, what is the definition of efficiency?
In my eyes a system is inefficient if resources go to waste (goods being thrown away because you couldn't sell them at a high enough price, for example). Amazon is a huge offender here, but far from the only one.
What is even more inefficient in my eyes is when people go wanting at the same time as resources go to waste.

But sure, you can measure efficiency as "how many goods can we produce per money", or something else entirely, and come up with a completely different result.
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HydraSlayer82
10/04/19 9:53:25 AM
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Oh shit, @Balrog0, what do you think of the city? It was a complete shit hole not even a decade ago.
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